The Coldest of Wars: After The Great War III (Open/OOC)

[Cabana]

Zaire already was backed by the west and had a large support base.

Well a democratic government that doesn't ask for soviet assistance would be backed much more. Seriously.

Mobutu caused the Congo crisis because he didn't go to his western supporters, but to the soviets. That scared america shitless.

This is a completely different Congo Crisis and you're massively incorrect about that. Lumumba asked the Russians for help.

[Gyrenaica]

Fine. It's Etienne in power.

Real guy. New backstory to why Mobutu not in power.

[Gyrenaica]

Also the Kinshasa Pact or whatever it may be called will be for any capitalist nations and capitalist aligned. I will try to have African nations in it. But they'll need to shape up.

[Esceen]

Well what do you want to do?

~Be a new nation or group?

~Declare independence?

There are still plenty of important nations available like France, Portugal, The Netherlands, Iran, Israel, Afghanistan, New Zealand, Canada, India, Ghana, Liberia, Libya, and many others.

I want to declare independence, but then Esceen will flip out.

>Denmark not important
In this ATL, hell yeah it is.

Because you don't control the government of Denmark, you can't declare independance

[British Empire Strikes Back]

Well, you and Esceen could both RP as Scandinavia? Or, you could declare independence. Or you could be another country?

This givings me idea!
WAU, I WANT TO GOVERN THE BELARUSIAN SSR!

What the heck are you going to do as Belarus?

You want Greenland? Or Iceland? Or Ireland?

[Newne Carriebean7]

it took 8 day,s but sung had arrived at Moscow, now the question is, once it's over, how will he get home?

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

it took 8 day,s but sung had arrived at Moscow, now the question is, once it's over, how will he get home?

Same way as before?

[The Danish Confederacy]

This givings me idea!
WAU, I WANT TO GOVERN THE BELARUSIAN SSR!

What the heck are you going to do as Belarus?

You want Greenland? Or Iceland? Or Ireland?

Step One:
Gain influence in Moscow.
Step Two:
Guns.
Step Three:
???
Step Four:
Profit!

[British Empire Strikes Back]

it took 8 day,s but sung had arrived at Moscow, now the question is, once it's over, how will he get home?

Same way as before?

We could take him out though.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

What the heck are you going to do as Belarus?

You want Greenland? Or Iceland? Or Ireland?

Step One:
Gain influence in Moscow.
Step Two:
Guns.
Step Three:
???
Step Four:
Profit!

You can be Puerto Rico.

[The Danish Confederacy]

Step One:
Gain influence in Moscow.
Step Two:
Guns.
Step Three:
???
Step Four:
Profit!

You can be Puerto Rico.

Same plan, only D.C. not CowMos.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

You can be Puerto Rico.

Same plan, only D.C. not CowMos.

I think it is best if you be Thailand. Good amount of regional influence, decent military, and somewhat independent.

[New Benian Republic]

Wassup everyone

[New Benian Republic]

Well a democratic government that doesn't ask for soviet assistance would be backed much more. Seriously.

Mobutu caused the Congo crisis because he didn't go to his western supporters, but to the soviets. That scared america shitless.

This is a completely different Congo Crisis and you're massively incorrect about that. Lumumba asked the Russians for help.

The Irish were in the Congo and kicked ass.

[Gyrenaica]

So. Who controls what happens to Mobutu?

His crimes include, but are not limited to:
Extortion
Exploitation
Rape
Murder
Arbitrary arrest
Torture
(Human rights abuse)

[Gyrenaica]

Mobutu is not in charge, nor will he return and that is that.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

So. Who controls what happens to Mobutu?

His crimes include, but are not limited to:
Extortion
Exploitation
Rape
Murder
Arbitrary arrest
Torture
(Human rights abuse)

Hey Mobutu is the US' guy in Africa, you can't just get rid of him.

[The Commonwealth of the South Pacific]

Hey guys, seems like Israel is eager for revenge, I'm not going down as easy as I did before Cristo

[British Empire Strikes Back]

Wassup everyone

Thanks for coming, I'll assume you want Ireland and the IRA? Yay! Britain gets another problem to deal with!

[Gyrenaica]

So. Who controls what happens to Mobutu?

His crimes include, but are not limited to:
Extortion
Exploitation
Rape
Murder
Arbitrary arrest
Torture
(Human rights abuse)

Hey Mobutu is the US' guy in Africa, you can't just get rid of him.

He was deposed of in a coup. As far as I know, I'm pretty positive USA didn't have troops backin him.

[British Empire Strikes Back]

Hey guys, seems like Israel is eager for revenge, I'm not going down as easy as I did before Cristo

Yes! I am glad that you're coming back, we really needed Israel in this and it's good that it'll be you.

[Gyrenaica]

I'll have Mobutu in power if he is a different person. Like not a crazy genocidal tin pot dictator. I'd prefer a leader that would advance Congo. Not let western powers exploit the nations $24 trillion worth of natural resources nor himself exploit it.

[Empire of Gibraltar]

Okay can anyone give me a quick recap of what has happened so far, or TG it to me. I just want to catch up so I know what my first post should be like.

[The Commonwealth of the South Pacific]

Nation Application

NS Name: The Commonwealth of the South Pacific
Nation Name: The Republic of Israel
National Flag:
Leader of Your Nation: President Shafir Amit
Population of Your Nation (optional):
Political Freedoms (from a scale of 1/10): 8
Civil Rights (from a scale of 1/10):8
Military Strength (from a scale of 1/10): 6
Is your nation aligned with The West/America/NATO, The East/Soviets/Communist, or nonaligned: The West (We want revenge against the AFU after they humiliated us with the Soviets)
If your nation is aligned The West, is nation in NATO: No
Brief Description of Your Nation's Recent History: After the humiliation at the hands of the AFU the people of Israel quickly lost faith in their 'Great Leader' and after a popular revolution at the hands of his son Shafir Amit, the Republic began to rebuild from the devastating attack that was the Second Arab-Israeli war. President Shafir quickly got rid of the Fascist ideas and bills that his father had passed years ago and one of the first bills he passed was one which allowed real democracy in the Republic. Even though their were a multitude of other political parties the people did not want any other leader other than Shafir and he remains popular to this day. After that, after gaining opposition by his father's supporters, he allowed the Palestinians to move back into their old land and to live with the same rights as the Israelis as a way to repent for their expulsion from their land. Israel absorbed the Gaza strip and Shafir as a result of peace cut back on the military and tried to find ways to boost the economy like their rivals, the AFU.
Brief Description of Your Nation's Foreign Relations Agenda (Increase ties with NATO or Warsaw Pact for instance): Increase Economy, Maybe get Western Support and rebuild military, Regain reputation after war with AFU

[The Commonwealth of the South Pacific]

Hey, I'm kinda looking for some western support and allies and could you actually follow through with your military support if you do provide it and not pull out last minute (I'm looking at you British Empire)