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by Harbertia » Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:04 pm

by Holy Empire of Avalon » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:28 pm
Harbertia wrote:Avalon, what kind of powers did you think your witch would have? I don't like the idea of Charlie being a witch, but since the idea of a Witch being in the RP has come up I figured we should discuss what they will or simply will not do. I'd suggest that, like in Wizards of Waverly or in the 'Magical People in a Mundane' world RP they be watched by some agency but- I don't feel such will agree with Ryn's vision. Waverly did alright with it- but when that agency did intervene- well, things got real- fast. So it's a good control mechanic- but serves no other purpose. It doesn't enhance the RP and instead causes resentment- people with power like to use that power.
Thus instead of some authority rulling that Witches can or can not do this or that- I feel we should have a list of what they can do- and have that they can only do things on that list. Since they are not gods, but magical beings with limited abilities.


by Harbertia » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:31 pm
Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Harbertia wrote:Avalon, what kind of powers did you think your witch would have? I don't like the idea of Charlie being a witch, but since the idea of a Witch being in the RP has come up I figured we should discuss what they will or simply will not do. I'd suggest that, like in Wizards of Waverly or in the 'Magical People in a Mundane' world RP they be watched by some agency but- I don't feel such will agree with Ryn's vision. Waverly did alright with it- but when that agency did intervene- well, things got real- fast. So it's a good control mechanic- but serves no other purpose. It doesn't enhance the RP and instead causes resentment- people with power like to use that power.
Thus instead of some authority rulling that Witches can or can not do this or that- I feel we should have a list of what they can do- and have that they can only do things on that list. Since they are not gods, but magical beings with limited abilities.
Well magic is kind of just the force of imagination, what it can do is not limited by laws, what it is limited by is energy. You can try to make an elephant out of cotton candy all day long, but I'd reckon you'd need like a jigawatt of force to do it, in calories that would roughly be the weight of Rosie O'Donnell
What would limit Charlie is, A.) she is a very small girl, calories have to be burned to make magic, -snip-
I just like it, it adds simplistic complexity, a living story.

by Holy Empire of Avalon » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:38 pm
Harbertia wrote:Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Well magic is kind of just the force of imagination, what it can do is not limited by laws, what it is limited by is energy. You can try to make an elephant out of cotton candy all day long, but I'd reckon you'd need like a jigawatt of force to do it, in calories that would roughly be the weight of Rosie O'Donnell
What would limit Charlie is, A.) she is a very small girl, calories have to be burned to make magic, -snip-
I just like it, it adds simplistic complexity, a living story.
I'm having some difficulty focusing as I really don't like Charlie being a Witch :/ Due to this, I've not been able to really think about anything you say after her name, and thus I"ll let Ryn comment.

by Holy Empire of Avalon » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:38 pm
Harbertia wrote:Who is Liam? I really have lost track of the IC.

by Harbertia » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:40 pm
Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Harbertia wrote:I'm having some difficulty focusing as I really don't like Charlie being a Witch :/ Due to this, I've not been able to really think about anything you say after her name, and thus I"ll let Ryn comment.
Well, ultimately I would say it is his choice; I just wanted to take the time and explain it to you as you did ask. I just believe that for the story it makes perfect sense. What is a monster that truly is not? Vampires are indeed monsters, even with a human form they still drown themselves in human blood. Lycans have human form but turn into wolves of the silver moon when it rises. Witches are cursed, but they have a choice to show their powers or not, they have no form but human. They are monsters by definition, but are not monsters by choice on occasion. Witches can choose where to draw power from, some from nature, some from fear, some from joy, others from lust, there is a large scale to choose from. Being as Charlie lives near the woods I believe a Druid form would be perfect since she loves the forest.
that's not very light. My manwolf character isn't cursed- nor is he a monster.
by Holy Empire of Avalon » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:48 pm
Harbertia wrote:Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Well, ultimately I would say it is his choice; I just wanted to take the time and explain it to you as you did ask. I just believe that for the story it makes perfect sense. What is a monster that truly is not? Vampires are indeed monsters, even with a human form they still drown themselves in human blood. Lycans have human form but turn into wolves of the silver moon when it rises. Witches are cursed, but they have a choice to show their powers or not, they have no form but human. They are monsters by definition, but are not monsters by choice on occasion. Witches can choose where to draw power from, some from nature, some from fear, some from joy, others from lust, there is a large scale to choose from. Being as Charlie lives near the woods I believe a Druid form would be perfect since she loves the forest.
Witches don't have to be cursedthat's not very light. My manwolf character isn't cursed- nor is he a monster.

by Harbertia » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:49 pm
Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Harbertia wrote:Witches don't have to be cursedthat's not very light. My manwolf character isn't cursed- nor is he a monster.
It depends on how you look at it, the dark fairytales (the ones I figure we are drawing from) have witches as men nasty hags who seek to satisfy their lust for human fear and death by any means from eating children to even committing some pretty nasty things on any wandering knights who stray to far into their lands. Witches of old folktales are, I assure you, creepy and definitely monsters. Some havign made pacts with the Devil, others cursed by God for their atrocities on people.
Course, going back to the whole light and cheery thing, we have a ghost (who I assume was killed in a school shooting), a wolfman who I am going to guess turns into exactly that and does what werewolves do, a fallen angel that I don't even want to know what trouble he'd cause pissed off, I think we got a vampire floating around somewhere? Point being, we have monsters in here that in their natural environment are anything but light and cheery. If anything a stubborn, cheerful, protective, shy, and generally sweet girl who tries to cope with the hand she's been dealt, seems pretty light to me. She wants her fairytale to be her getting the guy and then a happily every after.

by Holy Empire of Avalon » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:51 pm
Harbertia wrote:Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:It depends on how you look at it, the dark fairytales (the ones I figure we are drawing from) have witches as men nasty hags who seek to satisfy their lust for human fear and death by any means from eating children to even committing some pretty nasty things on any wandering knights who stray to far into their lands. Witches of old folktales are, I assure you, creepy and definitely monsters. Some havign made pacts with the Devil, others cursed by God for their atrocities on people.
Course, going back to the whole light and cheery thing, we have a ghost (who I assume was killed in a school shooting), a wolfman who I am going to guess turns into exactly that and does what werewolves do, a fallen angel that I don't even want to know what trouble he'd cause pissed off, I think we got a vampire floating around somewhere? Point being, we have monsters in here that in their natural environment are anything but light and cheery. If anything a stubborn, cheerful, protective, shy, and generally sweet girl who tries to cope with the hand she's been dealt, seems pretty light to me. She wants her fairytale to be her getting the guy and then a happily every after.
k, but I've already discussed the hags with Ryn, and he disagreed.

by Harbertia » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:53 pm
Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:She is not a Hag.
It's an easy question- like, hag is just a wizen old woman.
by Holy Empire of Avalon » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:56 pm

by Harbertia » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:58 pm
Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Harbertia wrote:Will she grow up to be a hag?It's an easy question- like, hag is just a wizen old woman.
Hags are (at least in my list a definitions) the old woman in fairytales that is a witch and generally eats children or uses fear as her source of power, an example in which case would be Hansel and Gretel
Charlie is going to be more of Druid, which is basically something more akin to a mix of the European style you'd see Merlin using and the Tribal style you see such groups as the Gaul and Native Americans using.


by Holy Empire of Avalon » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:59 pm
Harbertia wrote:Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Hags are (at least in my list a definitions) the old woman in fairytales that is a witch and generally eats children or uses fear as her source of power, an example in which case would be Hansel and Gretel
Charlie is going to be more of Druid, which is basically something more akin to a mix of the European style you'd see Merlin using and the Tribal style you see such groups as the Gaul and Native Americans using.
K

by Harbertia » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:02 pm

by Rynagria » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:05 pm
Harbertia wrote:Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Well, ultimately I would say it is his choice; I just wanted to take the time and explain it to you as you did ask. I just believe that for the story it makes perfect sense. What is a monster that truly is not? Vampires are indeed monsters, even with a human form they still drown themselves in human blood. Lycans have human form but turn into wolves of the silver moon when it rises. Witches are cursed, but they have a choice to show their powers or not, they have no form but human. They are monsters by definition, but are not monsters by choice on occasion. Witches can choose where to draw power from, some from nature, some from fear, some from joy, others from lust, there is a large scale to choose from. Being as Charlie lives near the woods I believe a Druid form would be perfect since she loves the forest.
Witches don't have to be cursedthat's not very light. My manwolf character isn't cursed- nor is he a monster.
Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Harbertia wrote:Witches don't have to be cursedthat's not very light. My manwolf character isn't cursed- nor is he a monster.
It depends on how you look at it, the dark fairytales (the ones I figure we are drawing from) have witches as men nasty hags who seek to satisfy their lust for human fear and death by any means from eating children to even committing some pretty nasty things on any wandering knights who stray to far into their lands. Witches of old folktales are, I assure you, creepy and definitely monsters. Some havign made pacts with the Devil, others cursed by God for their atrocities on people.
Course, going back to the whole light and cheery thing, we have a ghost (who I assume was killed in a school shooting), a wolfman who I am going to guess turns into exactly that and does what werewolves do, a fallen angel that I don't even want to know what trouble he'd cause pissed off, I think we got a vampire floating around somewhere? Point being, we have monsters in here that in their natural environment are anything but light and cheery. If anything a stubborn, cheerful, protective, shy, and generally sweet girl who tries to cope with the hand she's been dealt, seems pretty light to me. She wants her fairytale to be her getting the guy and then a happily every after.

by Holy Empire of Avalon » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:07 pm
Harbertia wrote:Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Do you desire further inquiring?
None, I realize that their is some aspects I can like- even if at this time my disinterest holds me from reading all you had wrote on her powers. I had honestly expected a simple response of;
'levitation, moving objects,- nothing really harmful. She's a young witch.'
But, I instead got a response that- for some reason has me clammed up unwilling to read past the mention of Charlie, and calories. I'm not sure how to take that.

by Holy Empire of Avalon » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:08 pm
Rynagria wrote:Harbertia wrote:Witches don't have to be cursedthat's not very light. My manwolf character isn't cursed- nor is he a monster.
Indeed..... When I think of someone getting cursed, to me it implies that those who have such capabilities are more widespread than I intend. I want the town to be special because it's a hotspot for the minor minority of the world, which are the descendants.Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:It depends on how you look at it, the dark fairytales (the ones I figure we are drawing from) have witches as men nasty hags who seek to satisfy their lust for human fear and death by any means from eating children to even committing some pretty nasty things on any wandering knights who stray to far into their lands. Witches of old folktales are, I assure you, creepy and definitely monsters. Some havign made pacts with the Devil, others cursed by God for their atrocities on people.
Course, going back to the whole light and cheery thing, we have a ghost (who I assume was killed in a school shooting), a wolfman who I am going to guess turns into exactly that and does what werewolves do, a fallen angel that I don't even want to know what trouble he'd cause pissed off, I think we got a vampire floating around somewhere? Point being, we have monsters in here that in their natural environment are anything but light and cheery. If anything a stubborn, cheerful, protective, shy, and generally sweet girl who tries to cope with the hand she's been dealt, seems pretty light to me. She wants her fairytale to be her getting the guy and then a happily every after.
I could so prove you wrong and really tell you how Mr. K died for real, but that would ruin the fun and I intend for it to be light or at the very least not dark.
I don't recall having a fallen angel accepted into the RP.
There's no vampire, the only one was one of your old characters.

by Rynagria » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:10 pm
Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Rynagria wrote:Indeed..... When I think of someone getting cursed, to me it implies that those who have such capabilities are more widespread than I intend. I want the town to be special because it's a hotspot for the minor minority of the world, which are the descendants.
I could so prove you wrong and really tell you how Mr. K died for real, but that would ruin the fun and I intend for it to be light or at the very least not dark.
I don't recall having a fallen angel accepted into the RP.
There's no vampire, the only one was one of your old characters.
What was Azrael then?

by Galnius » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:12 pm

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by Holy Empire of Avalon » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:24 pm

by Galnius » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:30 pm
Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Galnius wrote:Aye, he is indeed. Minor sub-character who is merely a big part of charlottes life, but not the plot. At least, I wouldn't asdume so.
Never know, he must have quite a lot of patience to put up with Charlotte
She is adorable though, I never would have figured Rob could do that to a girl, I believe the tally is two now - oddly enough both were "monsters", though I just say misunderstood sweethearts... I think he might have a thing for girls that could kill him though, last girl could make Hulk Hogan look like Barbie, this one could easily join Al-Qaeda XD
-insert video of Family Guy "Pakistani Alarm Clock" joke here-
honestly though, these settings seem to produce such good female characters, I feel the male characters are lacking in the personality their counterparts show.

by Holy Empire of Avalon » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:32 pm
Galnius wrote:Liam has Ben serving phoenixes since retiring from the marines at 19 (65 now) after Charlotte father saved his life. He is used to their emotional maelstroms. And phoenix are hardly monster.Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Never know, he must have quite a lot of patience to put up with Charlotte
She is adorable though, I never would have figured Rob could do that to a girl, I believe the tally is two now - oddly enough both were "monsters", though I just say misunderstood sweethearts... I think he might have a thing for girls that could kill him though, last girl could make Hulk Hogan look like Barbie, this one could easily join Al-Qaeda XD
-insert video of Family Guy "Pakistani Alarm Clock" joke here-
honestly though, these settings seem to produce such good female characters, I feel the male characters are lacking in the personality their counterparts show.
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