Reality's Bane (OOC/Open)

[Petrokovia]

Petro, we need you!

I'll get a post up soon. I was just waiting for Mund to post, and I see he did.

[Apto]

Sorry for not posting. Really tired these past few days. Tired and busy.

Life.

Ok, I know we're moving slow, but here's an app. I'm not sure why I wanted to make this, but hey, why not?

Name: Napstablook

Starting Affiliation: good

Gender: Male

Age: Unknown

Appearance: (Image)

Species: Ghost

Universe of Origin: Undertale

Backstory: http://undertale.wikia.com/wiki/Napstablook

Powers and Abilities: As a Ghost, he is resistant to physical attacks, however energy and magical attacks will effect him normally. His tears are magical. He can levitate and can phase through objects. He can manipulate the direction and shape of his tears. Is a good music mixer.

Weaknesses: Is always sad. unconfident in himself. Doesn't really feel like fighting, and may not feel up to counter-attacking.

Destructive Capacity: A room?

Speed: At top levitating speed, a running pace?

Durability: against physical attacks, very high, however he's quite weak to energy and magical attacks.

Lifting Strength: below average

Striking Strength: Almost nonexistent

Stamina: high

Standard Equipment: His headphones.

Intelligence: Average

You underestimate some of Blooky's stats.

Honestly disagree with the Relativistic+ thing.

Just can't wrap my head around it.

[Naval Monte]

Maybe as a ghost spacetime has different effects on him than living creatures.

[Petrokovia]

Maybe as a ghost spacetime has different effects on him than living creatures.

Well, all of the boss monsters are Relativistic+, and even some of the other (definitely higher-tier) monsters are as well. It's from power-scaling due to them keeping up with Frisk, considering Frisk can dodge Knight Knight's attacks, which are light based, as well as Vulkin's lightning bolt attacks.

[Aeternabilis]

Maybe as a ghost spacetime has different effects on him than living creatures.

Well, all of the boss monsters are Relativistic+, and even some of the other (definitely higher-tier) monsters are as well. It's from power-scaling due to them keeping up with Frisk, considering Frisk can dodge Knight Knight's attacks, which are light based, as well as Vulkin's lightning bolt attacks.

Mmm... having just watched a video to remind me of how those fights went, I'm inclined to disagree with the relativistic rating. Knight Knight attack's didn't look like actual bursts of light, more like flaming rocks or something. Vulkin's just looked like flying sparks. Plus, who's to say the battles weren't super literal, with monsters actually attacking a projection of Frisk's soul? That would hardly make them relativistic. Plus Frisk is, like, nine years old, and the only power we know that they have is excess determination, which might just be a human trait, considering how it's apparently extremely difficult to kill a human.

[Apto]

Hmm.

I'd type out Kyoko and Mami's past for Clay so we can start that awkward friendship. Just gotta edit that post Aet.

[Cybraxia]

@Apto

Goofy sings the PMMM theme

in case you didn't see it

[Petrokovia]

Well, all of the boss monsters are Relativistic+, and even some of the other (definitely higher-tier) monsters are as well. It's from power-scaling due to them keeping up with Frisk, considering Frisk can dodge Knight Knight's attacks, which are light based, as well as Vulkin's lightning bolt attacks.

Mmm... having just watched a video to remind me of how those fights went, I'm inclined to disagree with the relativistic rating. Knight Knight attack's didn't look like actual bursts of light, more like flaming rocks or something. Vulkin's just looked like flying sparks. Plus, who's to say the battles weren't super literal, with monsters actually attacking a projection of Frisk's soul? That would hardly make them relativistic. Plus Frisk is, like, nine years old, and the only power we know that they have is excess determination, which might just be a human trait, considering how it's apparently extremely difficult to kill a human.

What about Frisk's battle with God Flowey? Certainly, Flowey would be moving his attacks as quickly as possible-Which as a God would be outrageously fast. Now, yeah, this would be after fighting the rest of the monsters, so Frisk would be a little slower in the earlier fights, but that's why it would be Relativistic+, and not FTL.

[Aeternabilis]

Hmm.

I'd type out Kyoko and Mami's past for Clay so we can start that awkward friendship. Just gotta edit that post Aet.

Which post?

Mmm... having just watched a video to remind me of how those fights went, I'm inclined to disagree with the relativistic rating. Knight Knight attack's didn't look like actual bursts of light, more like flaming rocks or something. Vulkin's just looked like flying sparks. Plus, who's to say the battles weren't super literal, with monsters actually attacking a projection of Frisk's soul? That would hardly make them relativistic. Plus Frisk is, like, nine years old, and the only power we know that they have is excess determination, which might just be a human trait, considering how it's apparently extremely difficult to kill a human.

What about Frisk's battle with God Flowey? Certainly, Flowey would be moving his attacks as quickly as possible-Which as a God would be outrageously fast. Now, yeah, this would be after fighting the rest of the monsters, so Frisk would be a little slower in the earlier fights, but that's why it would be Relativistic+, and not FTL.

Point conceded about the Omega Flowey battle. I still don't think the battles were actually physical, though. And who knows? Maybe it was actually Frisk's soul that was dodging hits, and not Frisk themselves.

I'll allow a relativistic+ reaction time, but not moving speed. Moving at relativistic speeds is I think a little much.

[Petrokovia]

Hmm.

I'd type out Kyoko and Mami's past for Clay so we can start that awkward friendship. Just gotta edit that post Aet.

Which post?

What about Frisk's battle with God Flowey? Certainly, Flowey would be moving his attacks as quickly as possible-Which as a God would be outrageously fast. Now, yeah, this would be after fighting the rest of the monsters, so Frisk would be a little slower in the earlier fights, but that's why it would be Relativistic+, and not FTL.

Point conceded about the Omega Flowey battle. I still don't think the battles were actually physical, though. And who knows? Maybe it was actually Frisk's soul that was dodging hits, and not Frisk themselves.

I'll allow a relativistic+ reaction time, but not moving speed. Moving at relativistic speeds is I think a little much.

About the physical part, some of the monsters (ex. Agore) physically move to hit the box you're in, so I would assume from that it's physical.

About the relativistic+ speed, what speed would you allow for physical movement? 'Cause from the previous conversation we had (which I believe Cyb ruled on), I've been moving Muffet pretty fast (no where near relativistic+ yet, but probably somewhere around high hypersonic+ in the battle against the Anthonies).

[Aeternabilis]

Which post?


Point conceded about the Omega Flowey battle. I still don't think the battles were actually physical, though. And who knows? Maybe it was actually Frisk's soul that was dodging hits, and not Frisk themselves.

I'll allow a relativistic+ reaction time, but not moving speed. Moving at relativistic speeds is I think a little much.

About the physical part, some of the monsters (ex. Agore) physically move to hit the box you're in, so I would assume from that it's physical.

About the relativistic+ speed, what speed would you allow for physical movement? 'Cause from the previous conversation we had (which I believe Cyb ruled on), I've been moving Muffet pretty fast (no where near relativistic+ yet, but probably somewhere around high hypersonic+ in the battle against the Anthonies).

I guess it'd have to be on a case-by-case thing. Like, for Sanic, he can achieve a high velocity, or Supes can go hella fast. But for someone like Muffet, whose speed feats aren't exactly the most solid... I don't know. I'll have one of my Co-ops voice a second (or third or forth or whatever) opinion.

That being said, IRE! Cyb! What'dya guys think about speed?

[Cybraxia]

About the physical part, some of the monsters (ex. Agore) physically move to hit the box you're in, so I would assume from that it's physical.

About the relativistic+ speed, what speed would you allow for physical movement? 'Cause from the previous conversation we had (which I believe Cyb ruled on), I've been moving Muffet pretty fast (no where near relativistic+ yet, but probably somewhere around high hypersonic+ in the battle against the Anthonies).

I guess it'd have to be on a case-by-case thing. Like, for Sanic, he can achieve a high velocity, or Supes can go hella fast. But for someone like Muffet, whose speed feats aren't exactly the most solid... I don't know. I'll have one of my Co-ops voice a second (or third or forth or whatever) opinion.

That being said, IRE! Cyb! What'dya guys think about speed?

OBD wiki speed seems to go for Reaction time rather than actual speed (something that should be remedied, IMO).

I'd continue using OBD wiki speed, but don't abuse it. By that I mean, obviously Frisk can't continually move as fast as Sonic, but for dodging, Frisk is lightning quick.

[Aeternabilis]

I guess it'd have to be on a case-by-case thing. Like, for Sanic, he can achieve a high velocity, or Supes can go hella fast. But for someone like Muffet, whose speed feats aren't exactly the most solid... I don't know. I'll have one of my Co-ops voice a second (or third or forth or whatever) opinion.

That being said, IRE! Cyb! What'dya guys think about speed?

OBD wiki speed seems to go for Reaction time rather than actual speed (something that should be remedied, IMO).

I'd continue using OBD wiki speed, but don't abuse it. By that I mean, obviously Frisk can't continually move as fast as Sonic, but for dodging, Frisk is lightning quick.

That sounds reasonable to me.

[Petrokovia]

OBD wiki speed seems to go for Reaction time rather than actual speed (something that should be remedied, IMO).

I'd continue using OBD wiki speed, but don't abuse it. By that I mean, obviously Frisk can't continually move as fast as Sonic, but for dodging, Frisk is lightning quick.

That sounds reasonable to me.

sounds good.

[Apto]

Which post?

This one.

"Mmm." Clay replied. He leaned up against the wall and closed his eyes, and tried to look into the past to see exactly what manner of troubled she was without having to outright ask. Unfortunately, his powers failed him. Because he was not in the universe where Kyoko's past happened, or perhaps thanks to Aebrenata's strange properties, Clay could not see anything from her past. Sighing internally, he opened his eyes and looked over at Mami. "Sorry if this makes me sound like a nosy dick, but what kind of troubled?"

Point conceded about the Omega Flowey battle. I still don't think the battles were actually physical, though. And who knows? Maybe it was actually Frisk's soul that was dodging hits, and not Frisk themselves.

I'll allow a relativistic+ reaction time, but not moving speed. Moving at relativistic speeds is I think a little much.

Watch the fights agains, see how Frisk moves out of the way of the attack BEFORE the attack itself begins.

That's prediction based on past experience, following a pattern, aim dodging, not FTL reaction times. Frisk's Save Ability is stronger than Omega Flowey's.

Think of it like Oriko's precog. She doesn't have better reaction times than other MGs, but she can dodge well because she acts before something happens. Same reason why Homura couldn't just Time Stop One Shot her.

[Naval Monte]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOWaN7b ... aec511e134

[Slenderman The CreepyPasta King]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOWaN7bdPyI&src_vid=SvHCdP_YXHM&feature=iv&annotation_id=475af4ee-270a-2445-8691-bcaec511e134

Gah!!! That music!!!!

The face is fine but that horrible music!

[Aeternabilis]

Which post?

This one.

"Mmm." Clay replied. He leaned up against the wall and closed his eyes, and tried to look into the past to see exactly what manner of troubled she was without having to outright ask. Unfortunately, his powers failed him. Because he was not in the universe where Kyoko's past happened, or perhaps thanks to Aebrenata's strange properties, Clay could not see anything from her past. Sighing internally, he opened his eyes and looked over at Mami. "Sorry if this makes me sound like a nosy dick, but what kind of troubled?"

Point conceded about the Omega Flowey battle. I still don't think the battles were actually physical, though. And who knows? Maybe it was actually Frisk's soul that was dodging hits, and not Frisk themselves.

I'll allow a relativistic+ reaction time, but not moving speed. Moving at relativistic speeds is I think a little much.

Watch the fights agains, see how Frisk moves out of the way of the attack BEFORE the attack itself begins.

That's prediction based on past experience, following a pattern, aim dodging, not FTL reaction times. Frisk's Save Ability is stronger than Omega Flowey's.

Think of it like Oriko's precog. She doesn't have better reaction times than other MGs, but she can dodge well because she acts before something happens. Same reason why Homura couldn't just Time Stop One Shot her.

What exactly am I editing? The part where Clay couldn't see Kyoko's past? If so, I had kind of intended for his time sight to be unusable in either of the celestial realms, but I can think of something if that's the part.

[Petrokovia]

Which post?

This one.

"Mmm." Clay replied. He leaned up against the wall and closed his eyes, and tried to look into the past to see exactly what manner of troubled she was without having to outright ask. Unfortunately, his powers failed him. Because he was not in the universe where Kyoko's past happened, or perhaps thanks to Aebrenata's strange properties, Clay could not see anything from her past. Sighing internally, he opened his eyes and looked over at Mami. "Sorry if this makes me sound like a nosy dick, but what kind of troubled?"

Point conceded about the Omega Flowey battle. I still don't think the battles were actually physical, though. And who knows? Maybe it was actually Frisk's soul that was dodging hits, and not Frisk themselves.

I'll allow a relativistic+ reaction time, but not moving speed. Moving at relativistic speeds is I think a little much.

Watch the fights agains, see how Frisk moves out of the way of the attack BEFORE the attack itself begins.

That's prediction based on past experience, following a pattern, aim dodging, not FTL reaction times. Frisk's Save Ability is stronger than Omega Flowey's.

Think of it like Oriko's precog. She doesn't have better reaction times than other MGs, but she can dodge well because she acts before something happens. Same reason why Homura couldn't just Time Stop One Shot her.

Aim-dodging is exactly why it's Relativistic+, and not FTL.

[The States of Balloon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOWaN7bdPyI&src_vid=SvHCdP_YXHM&feature=iv&annotation_id=475af4ee-270a-2445-8691-bcaec511e134

Hey, it's SCP-1471! I didn't expect to see it here.

[Cybraxia]

Fallen a bit behind with the pokeman arc, someone tell me whats going on

[Petrokovia]

Fallen a bit behind with the pokeman arc, someone tell me whats going on

-Gold & Co are in a shack due North of Mahogany Town, about to leave and go back into the town.
-Looker is with Gym Leader Pryce in his house, discussing the case of the Masked Man and the increased gang activity.
-Giovanni and Cyrus are about to catch Mesprit.

[Apto]

What exactly am I editing? The part where Clay couldn't see Kyoko's past? If so, I had kind of intended for his time sight to be unusable in either of the celestial realms, but I can think of something if that's the part.

Yes, that part.

Come to think of it though, I think it's better if the post remains untouched. Let's just get the three to know each other naturally.

So, what relic should they go after?

Aim-dodging is exactly why it's Relativistic+, and not FTL.

Remember this?

http://outskirtsbattledomewiki.com/inde ... s/45-speed

That's what we used to tier stats.

Sub-Relativistic Speeds contain a significant portion of the speed of light, but are still slower. By saying Relativistic Speed, you're saying it's the speed of light. Saying Relativistic+ means FTL.

A man can dodge a bullet from a gun by moving out of the way of the barrel. That doesn't mean he has supersonic reaction times or speed. Same logic applies here with Underale.

[Petrokovia]

What exactly am I editing? The part where Clay couldn't see Kyoko's past? If so, I had kind of intended for his time sight to be unusable in either of the celestial realms, but I can think of something if that's the part.

Yes, that part.

Come to think of it though, I think it's better if the post remains untouched. Let's just get the three to know each other naturally.

So, what relic should they go after?

Aim-dodging is exactly why it's Relativistic+, and not FTL.

Remember this?

http://outskirtsbattledomewiki.com/inde ... s/45-speed

That's what we used to tier stats.

Sub-Relativistic Speeds contain a significant portion of the speed of light, but are still slower. By saying Relativistic Speed, you're saying it's the speed of light. Saying Relativistic+ means FTL.

A man can dodge a bullet from a gun by moving out of the way of the barrel. That doesn't mean he has supersonic reaction times or speed. Same logic applies here with Underale.

According to the (new) VS Battles Wiki, which seems to be what we're using now, Relativistic+ is 50%-100% SoL, so not FTL.
http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Speed

[Apto]

According to the (new) VS Battles Wiki, which seems to be what we're using now, Relativistic+ is 50%-100% SoL, so not FTL.
http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Speed

Point still stands.

Aim Dodging via predictions and following a pattern does not = Light speed reflexes like you suggest Undertale Characters have.