The Era of the Enlightened(OOC/Sign UPs/AH-RP)

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

3% active is a wee bit high. 2% maybe.

We will probably have 2 percent. Because fear of reconquista.

Get rekt everyone who's not tribal!

Half my population is the military! I mean, yeah, we use flint and wooden weaponry, but...

[Reatra]

We play CKII here.



That was the least racist thing I've seen all day.

I once got pissed that I, as the Zunist banebshen of Afghanistan, was being rejected in my effort to seduce my sister.

When playing Tocharians, i sometimes have to remind myself that I'm not Zoroastrian.

Want to team up and kill the colonialists once we meet?

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

I once got pissed that I, as the Zunist banebshen of Afghanistan, was being rejected in my effort to seduce my sister.

When playing Tocharians, i sometimes have to remind myself that I'm not Zoroastrian.

Want to team up and kill the colonialists once we meet?

Sure!

[Reatra]

Want to team up and kill the colonialists once we meet?

Sure!

Yassssssss



But you will realize my superiority afterwards, right?

[The Greater Dutch Republic]

Wait, is the Papal States player still around? Cause I want to have Tuscant somehow own Romagna as well as my claim in Modena(remember, I claim all of Modern day Tuscany). Then Tuscany would have two coasts and be MEGA TRADING POWER! MUAHAHAHA! Naples, wanna help me betray me religion and form an alliance and/or trade pact with a Muslim state? Hint: that would be you. Also, who owns Libya? I was thinking that if Glitter would be so kind as to let me nab at least Tripoli. A small tiny little colony for small tiny little me.

[Soviet Chernarus]

We need to work on our history...looking at the map, it looks like the Dano-Swedish wars of the 1650s never happened.

I was thinking that they would've happened, just without much territorial change. The Swedes and Danes were bogged down in a stalemate, with neither side making significant gains. Because the Swedes managed to occupy Northern Norway, it was formally given to Sweden by the war's end, leaving Denmark with its Swedish lands.

Any input is welcome, considering this is a very rough gist of the scenario.

Hm. That sounds reasonable..

[Conchabira]

I once got pissed that I, as the Zunist banebshen of Afghanistan, was being rejected in my effort to seduce my sister.

When playing Tocharians, i sometimes have to remind myself that I'm not Zoroastrian.

Want to team up and kill the colonialists once we meet?

Reatra, you need to edit your app alot. There is no way your population is 18 million, specify what you mean by "modernized", and you need to bring you map claims back to the Andes, the farthest possible you could've expanded was maybe a little past the andes into Peru and Bolivia but thats about it.

To the Dutch player, sorry I got my dates jumbled everythin is good.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Yeah Burgundy wasn't accepted yet and Dutch Independence is determined by the Dutch player not the Burgundian player.

[Reatra]

Want to team up and kill the colonialists once we meet?

Reatra, you need to edit your app alot. There is no way your population is 18 million, specify what you mean by "modernized", and you need to bring you map claims back to the Andes, the farthest possible you could've expanded was maybe a little past the andes into Peru and Bolivia but thats about it.

To the Dutch player, sorry I got my dates jumbled everythin is good.

They did THIS in ONE CENTURY


Now imagine what they could do in two. Remember, my Qosqo started to conquer in 1300, not 1400. They literally had an extra century to assimilate their subjects into their culture, something they were SO VERY INCREDIBLY good at IRL.


Believe me, I could rant about this and go to so many internet pages and books to prove you wrong, but I have an essay to write, and I wouldn't make an app without knowing what was possible.

[Senkaku]

429 up in this bitch so Kisi will see it.


Kisi: map shit. China needs Inner AND Outer Manchuria, including Sakhalin, as well as the Western Regions.

Also, I want to switch dynasties from Qing to extended modified Tang dynasty, with the same territories.

Um....

Tang... still alive... in 1700?



I don't think a Chinese Thousand Year Reich is okay...

Stranger things have happened!


But seriously, if it weren't for An Lushan, Tang could've gone very, very far, probably well into the reign of the Song, even. I am going to have rebellions and perhaps an interregnum of some type around the time of the Mongol invasions, but those I can work with.

[The Greater Dutch Republic]

Actually, in my claims I will put the RL Italian Provinces of Tuscany and Emilia-Romagna. That would be easier.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Reatra, you need to edit your app alot. There is no way your population is 18 million, specify what you mean by "modernized", and you need to bring you map claims back to the Andes, the farthest possible you could've expanded was maybe a little past the andes into Peru and Bolivia but thats about it.

To the Dutch player, sorry I got my dates jumbled everythin is good.

They did THIS in ONE CENTURY


Now imagine what they could do in two. Remember, my Qosqo started to conquer in 1300, not 1400. They literally had an extra century to assimilate their subjects into their culture, something they were SO VERY INCREDIBLY good at IRL.


Believe me, I could rant about this and go to so many internet pages and books to prove you wrong, but I have an essay to write, and I wouldn't make an app without knowing what was possible.

*raises hand*

But Sensei, wouldn't the Empire generally wait to reach it's pre-Plague population before expanding?

[Reatra]

Um....

Tang... still alive... in 1700?



I don't think a Chinese Thousand Year Reich is okay...

Stranger things have happened!


But seriously, if it weren't for An Lushan, Tang could've gone very, very far, probably well into the reign of the Song, even. I am going to have rebellions and perhaps an interregnum of some type around the time of the Mongol invasions, but those I can work with.

I'd be fine with Tang falling by the Mongols and a post-Mongol dynasty surviving to 1700, but the Tang? Really? Every single Chinese dynasty has fallen after a couple hundred years due to corruption in the government and the Mongols (or Europeans in the Qing's case).

[Reatra]

They did THIS in ONE CENTURY


Now imagine what they could do in two. Remember, my Qosqo started to conquer in 1300, not 1400. They literally had an extra century to assimilate their subjects into their culture, something they were SO VERY INCREDIBLY good at IRL.


Believe me, I could rant about this and go to so many internet pages and books to prove you wrong, but I have an essay to write, and I wouldn't make an app without knowing what was possible.

*raises hand*

But Sensei, wouldn't the Empire generally wait to reach it's pre-Plague population before expanding?

In the gif, they had about 300,000 people in their original kingdom.

And the Sapa Inka were very conquesty, but at least consolidated their gains unlike the Mexika that Cortés took over.

[Sanabel]

Generic Info
Nation Name: Emirato di Napoli
Symbols:

Homeland Population: 8 million
Imperial Population: N/A
Location/Claims: See map
Capital City: Napoli

Government Info
Government Type: Full monarchy (emirate)
Brief Explanation of Government: The Emir is in charge of the nation. He presides over a council of governors that are in charge of various regions. However, all power lies in his hands.
Ideology: Monarchism, militarism, imperialism
Leader/s: Emir Abdulo II

Population Info
Brief Description of your people: The people of the Emirato are "enlightened". They, for the most part, are accepting and intellectual, and not the most fervently religious of peoples. However, many religious conservatives lie throughout.
Religion: Sunni Islam, small Catholic minority.
Ethnicity: 60% Italian, 40% Arab
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Islamo-Italian, Arabico-Italian, Arabic
Other Cultures: Traditional Italian, Traditional Sicilian, African, Turkish

Military Info
Army: 50,000 Active Duty, 90,000 Reserves. The Army uses modern arms, and employs the use of cavalry, cannons, and other modern technologies of war. The Army is mostly centered around the northern frontier of the state, poised for combat in Italy. However, there is a solid garrison presence throughout the Emirate. Joining the Army is seen as a very noble thing, and it is strictly professional. However, there is never a shortage of combatants, as the Army is seen as a way to enact Allah's will, and to fight for their religion.
Navy: 20,000 Active Duty. The Navy is a very large affair when it comes to money spent on it. used mostly for coastal defense, and trade facilitation. It is high quality and well trained, using mostly quality over quantity.
It possesses:
First Rate(80 guns+|500-600 Crew) X 3 = 1,600
Second Rate(60-80 guns|400-500 Crew) X 5 = 2,200
Third and Fourth Rates (40-60 Guns|300-400 Crew) X 10 = 3,500
Sixth-Fifth Rates (20-40 Guns|100-300 Crew) X 19 = 3,800
Galleasses/Galleys/Sloops/Brigs(<20 guns) X 32 = 3,200
Total Ship Board = 14,300
Total Marine = 3,700
Total Support = 2,000


Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: The economy is a capitalist free market, that is based around mostly trade and agriculture. Because of its location, the Emirate is able to have a strong hand in trade across the Sea, with their ports acting as waystations and layover sites, their navy helping to secure travel. Currently, the Emirate controls more wealth than all other Italian states combined, by far.(This is true IRL, and that's without Tunisia!)
Goals: *Unify the Apennine Peninsula
*Expand Islam
*Not get reconquista'd up the bum
*Cozy up with a major Islamic power, or many!
History:
827: Abbasids invade Sicily. Unlike IRL, they converted much of the populace, subsequently pacifying them. Sicily prospered under Islamic rule.
871: Arab and Sicilian Muslim traders had converted much of the populace of coastal southern Italy, a populace who had grown dissatisfied with Byzantine rule. They quickly converted, seeing the sucess of such rule in Sicily. Due to this Muslim support, the invasion of Southern Italy in 871 ended swiftly, with the Arabs able to capture up to Napoli. This invasion had been carried out by Tunisian and Sicilian Muslims.
910: Fighting against Byzantium leads to the blending of Tunisian, Sicilian, and Southern Italian culture and languages.
920: An attempted retaking of the Italian peninsula and Sicily leads to a united counterattack led by Tunisian Arabs. This successful defense leads to the unification of said lands under a Tunisian Emir.
1010: Being the largest city and the Emirate's cultural and economic capital, Napoli becomes the new Capital.
1050: The Emirate of Napoli officially breaks ties with the Abbasids, becoming fully independent instead of just semi-independent.

In the following years until the date at which the RP starts, the Emirate of Napoli became a successful trading power in the Mediterranean. They facilitated trade, became established as a center of wealth and culture, and expanded to Malta. The Emirate grew their military and kept it modern, faced with a border with the capital of Christendom. Currently, the Emirate is planning an incursion into Al-Cagliar(Sardinia) and Venice.

RP Sample: Bam! Pow! (I made this OP)
429 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

[Baja California y Sonora]

Didn't the Mapuche like repeal the Inca tho?

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

*raises hand*

But Sensei, wouldn't the Empire generally wait to reach it's pre-Plague population before expanding?

In the gif, they had about 300,000 people in their original kingdom.

And the Sapa Inka were very conquesty, but at least consolidated their gains unlike the Mexika that Cortés took over.

Still, after the arrival of the Old World folk and the like 75% population loss, I dont think you'd be expanding. If anything, you'd be contracting as cities are depopulated and abandoned and *cough* twenty years of warfare=/=stability or cause to grow.

[Sanabel]

Wait, is the Papal States player still around? Cause I want to have Tuscant somehow own Romagna as well as my claim in Modena(remember, I claim all of Modern day Tuscany). Then Tuscany would have two coasts and be MEGA TRADING POWER! MUAHAHAHA! Naples, wanna help me betray me religion and form an alliance and/or trade pact with a Muslim state? Hint: that would be you. Also, who owns Libya? I was thinking that if Glitter would be so kind as to let me nab at least Tripoli. A small tiny little colony for small tiny little me.

Sure, let's do this! What would the plan be?

If you become kebab, we could fly the banner of our faith over St. Peter's Square and the Doge of Venice's corpse within the year.

Or we could still do that, and you could still be Catholic.

[The Greater Dutch Republic]

Wait, is the Papal States player still around? Cause I want to have Tuscant somehow own Romagna as well as my claim in Modena(remember, I claim all of Modern day Tuscany). Then Tuscany would have two coasts and be MEGA TRADING POWER! MUAHAHAHA! Naples, wanna help me betray me religion and form an alliance and/or trade pact with a Muslim state? Hint: that would be you. Also, who owns Libya? I was thinking that if Glitter would be so kind as to let me nab at least Tripoli. A small tiny little colony for small tiny little me.

Sure, let's do this! What would the plan be?

If you become kebab, we could fly the banner of our faith over St. Peter's Square and the Doge of Venice's corpse within the year.

Or we could still do that, and you could still be Catholic.

About about this, I get Venetia proper and Südtirol, and you get Dalmatia and that other stuff because it's kebab land. We leave the Pope alone cause my peoples be Catholic and stuff, and that would probably start World War One 200 years ahead of schedule. North Italy will be annexed by me, and you get Corsica and Sardinia if you want them. Then our alliance will be renamed the Italian Alliance when we are the only two countries on the peninsula.

[Conchabira]

Reatra, you need to edit your app alot. There is no way your population is 18 million, specify what you mean by "modernized", and you need to bring you map claims back to the Andes, the farthest possible you could've expanded was maybe a little past the andes into Peru and Bolivia but thats about it.

To the Dutch player, sorry I got my dates jumbled everythin is good.

They did THIS in ONE CENTURY

First off I am not denying your existence or anything and I actually think it will be interesting to have you rp that but the Inca's also can't be OP. It was only 150 that you lost around 90% of your population. I think 18 million is a bit much, you should bring it down by about 10 mil. Also you are VERY over expanded, you should reign it in back to the Andes. I unsderstand how fast tge expanded originally but they also just took a serious setback. Also how modernized are you talking? I think steel weaponry and armour is fair but guns and horses should not be widespread.

@Glitter, I really don't want to start an argument with you. I was accepted over 20 pages ago and the Dutch player and I were just confirming that our histories matched, thats all.
Now imagine what they could do in two. Remember, my Qosqo started to conquer in 1300, not 1400. They literally had an extra century to assimilate their subjects into their culture, something they were SO VERY INCREDIBLY good at IRL.


Believe me, I could rant about this and go to so many internet pages and books to prove you wrong, but I have an essay to write, and I wouldn't make an app without knowing what was possible.

I am denying the ability of a surving Inca nation considering we have a Muslim Spain. All I am saying is that you need to lower your pop down to like 6-8 million and reign yourself back to the Andrs with maybe a little bit in Bolivia or something. Also tech wise, steel weapons and armour is fair but you should not have sizeable amounts of horses or guns.

@Glitter, I don't want to start an argument. The Dutch player and I were just working out our histories and checking them with eachother and I got my dates mixed thats all. Also I was accepted like 20 pages ago.

[Reatra]

In the gif, they had about 300,000 people in their original kingdom.

And the Sapa Inka were very conquesty, but at least consolidated their gains unlike the Mexika that Cortés took over.

Still, after the arrival of the Old World folk and the like 75% population loss, I dont think you'd be expanding. If anything, you'd be contracting as cities are depopulated and abandoned and *cough* twenty years of warfare=/=stability or cause to grow.

I literally put that in my app.


But a main reason they fell so easily IRL was that half of their army and about 10% of their men had just died in a civil war, literally ended a month before the Spaniards came (a civil war caused by the death of the Sapa Inka from... guess what... smallpox).

That didn't happen.

Real empires don't say "maybe we should wait until our cities are repopulated to reconquer" they say "well we can win these battles, why not conquer?" Since Qosqo and it's immediate area would still have the largest population base.




ALSO BEFORE I ACTUALLY GO BACK TO HOMEWORK.


REMEMBER THIS TAWANTINSUYU WAS BORN A CENTURY EARLIER, THEY WERE BIGGER THAN IN MY APP BEFORE SMALLPOX. They had far more land in Argentina and Colombia.





Also, my essay that I am writing is about Tawantinsuyu for history class!

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Sure, let's do this! What would the plan be?

If you become kebab, we could fly the banner of our faith over St. Peter's Square and the Doge of Venice's corpse within the year.

Or we could still do that, and you could still be Catholic.

About about this, I get Venetia proper and Südtirol, and you get Dalmatia and that other stuff because it's kebab land. We leave the Pope alone cause my peoples be Catholic and stuff, and that would probably start World War One 200 years ahead of schedule. North Italy will be annexed by me, and you get Corsica and Sardinia if you want them. Then our alliance will be renamed the Italian Alliance when we are the only two countries on the peninsula.

Al-Balkani is gunning for Dalmatia. Naplolistan and Tuscany would be wise to not go there.

[Reatra]

They did THIS in ONE CENTURY

First off I am not denying your existence or anything and I actually think it will be interesting to have you rp that but the Inca's also can't be OP. It was only 150 that you lost around 90% of your population. I think 18 million is a bit much, you should bring it down by about 10 mil. Also you are VERY over expanded, you should reign it in back to the Andes. I unsderstand how fast tge expanded originally but they also just took a serious setback. Also how modernized are you talking? I think steel weaponry and armour is fair but guns and horses should not be widespread.

@Glitter, I really don't want to start an argument with you. I was accepted over 20 pages ago and the Dutch player and I were just confirming that our histories matched, thats all.
Now imagine what they could do in two. Remember, my Qosqo started to conquer in 1300, not 1400. They literally had an extra century to assimilate their subjects into their culture, something they were SO VERY INCREDIBLY good at IRL.


Believe me, I could rant about this and go to so many internet pages and books to prove you wrong, but I have an essay to write, and I wouldn't make an app without knowing what was possible.

fix your quote please.



And again, they were 100 years older, meaning that most of their IRL lands were assimilated into their Runa Simi language and religion, and that means, like China, it was easier to reunify.

[Sanabel]

Sure, let's do this! What would the plan be?

If you become kebab, we could fly the banner of our faith over St. Peter's Square and the Doge of Venice's corpse within the year.

Or we could still do that, and you could still be Catholic.

About about this, I get Venetia proper and Südtirol, and you get Dalmatia and that other stuff because it's kebab land. We leave the Pope alone cause my peoples be Catholic and stuff, and that would probably start World War One 200 years ahead of schedule. North Italy will be annexed by me, and you get Corsica and Sardinia if you want them. Then our alliance will be renamed the Italian Alliance when we are the only two countries on the peninsula.

Basically....

You get half of Italy and I get some islands.

[Sanabel]

About about this, I get Venetia proper and Südtirol, and you get Dalmatia and that other stuff because it's kebab land. We leave the Pope alone cause my peoples be Catholic and stuff, and that would probably start World War One 200 years ahead of schedule. North Italy will be annexed by me, and you get Corsica and Sardinia if you want them. Then our alliance will be renamed the Italian Alliance when we are the only two countries on the peninsula.

Al-Balkani is gunning for Dalmatia. Naplolistan and Tuscany would be wise to not go there.

I dont want it. Just the Papal States and Sardinia.