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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:02 am

Reatra wrote:
New Granadeseret wrote:
Let's not completely discount Venice. If they worked with sailed ships, they could easily get across the Atlantic. The problem is... well, population base. An island made mostly of marble isen't exactly in the best position to get you the kind of population you need to support colonies beyond trading posts. But they'd still be a notable power on the mainland


No, population is no problem, they had more people than Spain in 1500. And I doubt their population has gone DOWN.

The problem is getting past the Muslims in Iberia into the Atlantic.

I don think Venice has the spare manpower or resources to spend on a colonial adventure, especially one that has to be supplied through a Muslim Adriatic, Med, and Gilbraltar.
I'm really tired

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The Greater Dutch Republic
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Postby The Greater Dutch Republic » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:03 am

Krugmar wrote:WIP

Generic Info
Nation Name: Duchy of Brandenburg-Prussia
Symbols: Brandenburg Flag - Prussian Flag - Hohenzollern Coat of Arms
Homeland Population: 1.5 Million
Imperial Population: N/A
Location/Claims: Brandenburg, Old Prussia, Osnabruck, Cleves and the Mark
Capital City: Berlin

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Government Type: Absolute Monarchy
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History: Since this is OTL Prussian borders and monarchy, would the history be any different? Other than perhaps no Thirty Years War, if the reformation never occurs.
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Prussia cannot into colonies?
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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:03 am

Generic Info
Nation Name: Shakur Tawantinsuyu
Symbols: fleg
Homeland Population: 18 million (up from 6 million 150 years ago)
Imperial Population: 12,340 (Galapagos)
Location/Claims: Ja
Capital City: Qosqo


Government Info
Government Type: Absolute Bureaucratic Monarchy
Brief Explanation of Government: The Sapa Inka is the absolute monarch, while the administration is split into four provinces, which are made up of dozens of provinces themselves. Only the Inka can become rulers, but competent young adults can take an exam to enter the Inka class. Also the government owns everything and there's a labor tax.
Ideology: Expansionism, Mitm'a Settlement, Autarky, Communalism
Leader/s: Sapa Inka Rimak Shakur

Population Info
Brief Description of your people: See Below
Religion: Intism
Ethnicity: Runa Simi
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Runa Simi
Other Cultures: Machupe

Military Info
Army: Literally "The Army". Numbering roughly 300,000 men, mostly made up of conscripts who are serving their labor tax, but being a professional soldier is a respectable profession, and many young men decide to go that route. Now armed with muskets and a growing population of cavalry horses (although infantry and llamas are still far more useful in the mountains) and iron weapons, the still primitive tribes surrounding Tawantinsuyu are far behind.
Navy: Literally “The Navy”, far less developed than The Army, The Navy is made up of twenty of what could be considered “strange looking Almohad frigates”, thirty “weird transports…?”, three “Okay, I can tell it’s a man-of-war… but seriously?” And several hundred reed boats and canoes. A total of 13,000 personnel man the navy.

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Brief Description of your Economy: Palace Economy Autarky. The government owns everything, and issues a labor tax in addition to a tax in kind. Therefore there is never a shortage of laborers to build things.
Goals: Conquer the world, at least South America and the Pacific. Colonize the Plains of La Plata. Colonize the Pacific, regain our population.
History: In 1320, the Kingdom of Qosqo went on a conquering spree. By 1440 they had all of the Andes and some of the jungles in the north under their communalist economy and administration. By 1530, when the smallpox started coming, they had a unified culture and language throughout the Andes, with nearly 46 million people. But that dropped down to six million by 1540, and the deaths destabilized the realm. There was a two decade period of instability as different factions of the Inka class battled for power, but in the end he who adopted horses and gunpowder won the day. Sapa Inka Kusi Shakur marched into Qosqo on May 14th, 1554, and began to reform Tawantinsuyu. His new dynasty reinstituted the labor taxes, and the resettlement programs. Horses and oxen allowed for dense settlement of the plains in the south-east, and gunpowder allowed for continued conquests and written word further assimilation, as was the Inka way.
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yee haw it's time for mass line

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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:04 am

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Reatra wrote:
No, population is no problem, they had more people than Spain in 1500. And I doubt their population has gone DOWN.

The problem is getting past the Muslims in Iberia into the Atlantic.

I don think Venice has the spare manpower or resources to spend on a colonial adventure, especially one that has to be supplied through a Muslim Adriatic, Med, and Gilbraltar.


Which is what I said. They have enough people to make at least a sort of Portugal-esque trade empire, but not the environment.
yee haw it's time for mass line

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Krugmar
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Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Krugmar » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:05 am

The Greater Dutch Republic wrote:
Krugmar wrote:-snip-

Prussia cannot into colonies?


Colonies drain money and manpower, both of which Prussia spends heavily upon its army.
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The Greater Dutch Republic
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Postby The Greater Dutch Republic » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:06 am

Krugmar wrote:
The Greater Dutch Republic wrote:Prussia cannot into colonies?


Colonies drain money and manpower, both of which Prussia spends heavily upon its army.

I see. The only reason I can have colonies(other than my monies) is that Tuscany is Catholic, but doesn't care if your Muslim of anything, they're just like "Well, money is money."
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Liecthenbourg wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Does anyone know the term 'invasion of red tape'?

Excessive Communist adhesive.

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Elepis
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Postby Elepis » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:11 am

The Greater Dutch Republic wrote:
Krugmar wrote:
Colonies drain money and manpower, both of which Prussia spends heavily upon its army.

I see. The only reason I can have colonies(other than my monies) is that Tuscany is Catholic, but doesn't care if your Muslim of anything, they're just like "Well, money is money."


you could have the rest of N.W Italy now I have switched to Persia
"Krugmar - Today at 10:00 PM
Not sure that'll work on Elepis considering he dislikes (from what I've observed):
A: Nationalism
B: Religion being taken seriously
C: The Irish"

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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:13 am

Elepis wrote:
The Greater Dutch Republic wrote:I see. The only reason I can have colonies(other than my monies) is that Tuscany is Catholic, but doesn't care if your Muslim of anything, they're just like "Well, money is money."


you could have the rest of N.W Italy now I have switched to Persia


OH MY GOD REALLY?


I WISH I HAD KNOWN THIS BEFORE I BECAME TAWANTINSUYU

I WANTED TO BE GENOA SOOOO BAD
yee haw it's time for mass line

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Elepis
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Postby Elepis » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:16 am

Reatra wrote:
Elepis wrote:
you could have the rest of N.W Italy now I have switched to Persia


OH MY GOD REALLY?


I WISH I HAD KNOWN THIS BEFORE I BECAME TAWANTINSUYU

I WANTED TO BE GENOA SOOOO BAD


be Genoa/Milan whatever then and (economically) kill those Venetians for me
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"Krugmar - Today at 10:00 PM
Not sure that'll work on Elepis considering he dislikes (from what I've observed):
A: Nationalism
B: Religion being taken seriously
C: The Irish"

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Postby Elepis » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:20 am

Elepis wrote:
Generic Info
Nation Name: Greater Persian Empire/Afsharid dynasty
Symbols: Flag, emblem
Homeland Population: 19 million (guess form population of other countries)
Imperial Population:
Location/Claims: Iran, Afghanistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan
Capital City: Tehran

Government Info
Government Type: Unitary State with a Federal Structure under an Absolute Monarchy
Brief Explanation of Government: The Empire is divided into various Satrapies that all answer directly to the Shah. He is the executive, judicial and legislative leader of the Empire and his word is law; but his governors have autonomy to run their Satraps as they wish; as long as they comply to the administrative techniques and other such ruling devices employed by Nader Shah Afshar
Ideology: Monarchism, (light) Liberalism, Zoroastrianism, Militarism, Imperialism (but not expansionism)
Leader/s: Shahanshah Nader Shah Afshar

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yet again I have a load of work to do so I will finish this tomorrow (if I am lucky)

This is PERSIA!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Krugmar - Today at 10:00 PM
Not sure that'll work on Elepis considering he dislikes (from what I've observed):
A: Nationalism
B: Religion being taken seriously
C: The Irish"

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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:23 am

Elepis wrote:
Reatra wrote:
OH MY GOD REALLY?


I WISH I HAD KNOWN THIS BEFORE I BECAME TAWANTINSUYU

I WANTED TO BE GENOA SOOOO BAD


be Genoa/Milan whatever then and (economically) kill those Venetians for me

nah


imma be the Sapa Inka and (literally) kill those colonials for me
yee haw it's time for mass line

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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:46 am

I am going to go out on a limb and say that no med nations without Andalusian approval will be founding colonies. Especially Christian ones.
I'm really tired

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Elepis
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Postby Elepis » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:48 am

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:I am going to go out on a limb and say that no med nations without Andalusian approval will be founding colonies. Especially Christian ones.


luckily Persia is not on the med...however we cannot in to colonies at the moment, Maybe a couple of trading towns in East Africa but nothing big
"Krugmar - Today at 10:00 PM
Not sure that'll work on Elepis considering he dislikes (from what I've observed):
A: Nationalism
B: Religion being taken seriously
C: The Irish"

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Sanabel
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Postby Sanabel » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:51 am

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:I am going to go out on a limb and say that no med nations without Andalusian approval will be founding colonies. Especially Christian ones.

We will be a good little lapdog if they allow us to.
The interregnum is over- I am once again the OP of the Land of the Free RP


I am a Radical Centro-Transhumanist and a National Globalist.
If you don't have a high enough IQ to know what those are, then we can't be friends.

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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:52 am

Sanabel wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:I am going to go out on a limb and say that no med nations without Andalusian approval will be founding colonies. Especially Christian ones.

We will be a good little lapdog if they allow us to.

Tfw Napolistan is sucking up to all the Muslim powers
I'm really tired

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Sanabel
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Postby Sanabel » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:53 am

Reatra wrote:
Sanabel wrote:So, what do you guys, (besides Dutchy; he's biased out of love for me) think about Napolistan having maybe one colony, somewhere? It would probably be small. Like tiny.


Tunisia?

It isnt a colony, it's an integral part of the nation.
The interregnum is over- I am once again the OP of the Land of the Free RP


I am a Radical Centro-Transhumanist and a National Globalist.
If you don't have a high enough IQ to know what those are, then we can't be friends.

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The Kingdom of Glitter
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:53 am

The Greater Dutch Republic wrote:
Krugmar wrote:
Colonies drain money and manpower, both of which Prussia spends heavily upon its army.

I see. The only reason I can have colonies(other than my monies) is that Tuscany is Catholic, but doesn't care if your Muslim of anything, they're just like "Well, money is money."


No.

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Sanabel
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Postby Sanabel » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:54 am

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Sanabel wrote:We will be a good little lapdog if they allow us to.

Tfw Napolistan is sucking up to all the Muslim powers

Im sorry, we are literally on the front lines, bordering the papal states, And we don't want to get left to die when the states of Italy decide to reconquista my ass.
The interregnum is over- I am once again the OP of the Land of the Free RP


I am a Radical Centro-Transhumanist and a National Globalist.
If you don't have a high enough IQ to know what those are, then we can't be friends.

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Elepis
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Postby Elepis » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:10 am

does anyone want to ally with Zoroastrian Persia?
"Krugmar - Today at 10:00 PM
Not sure that'll work on Elepis considering he dislikes (from what I've observed):
A: Nationalism
B: Religion being taken seriously
C: The Irish"

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Postby Liecthenbourg » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:11 am

Elepis wrote:does anyone want to ally with Zoroastrian Persia?

Become a vassal of the Mughals :D
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The Region of Kylaris
I'm just a simple Kylarite, trying to make my way on NS.

The Gaullican Republic,
I thank God for Three Things:
Kylaris, the death of Esquarium, and Prem <3

The Transtsabaran Federation and The Chistovodian Workers' State

To understand European history watch these: Cultural erosion, German and Italian history, a brief history of Germany.

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Postby Elepis » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:13 am

Liecthenbourg wrote:
Elepis wrote:does anyone want to ally with Zoroastrian Persia?

Become a vassal of the Mughals :D


or you could be vassal of us?


did Tamerlane happen in this? if not I will just be a Zoroastrian Ilkhanate
"Krugmar - Today at 10:00 PM
Not sure that'll work on Elepis considering he dislikes (from what I've observed):
A: Nationalism
B: Religion being taken seriously
C: The Irish"

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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Liecthenbourg » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:14 am

Elepis wrote:
Liecthenbourg wrote:Become a vassal of the Mughals :D


or you could be vassal of us?


did Tamerlane happen in this? if not I will just be a Zoroastrian Ilkhanate

LOL. Mughals bow to no man, (Not yet) especially a fellow sand-dweller :P

Probably.
Impeach the Mayor of Lego City Legalise Falling into the River The Rescue Helicopter Needs to be Built! HEY!
Grand-Master of the Kyluminati


The Region of Kylaris
I'm just a simple Kylarite, trying to make my way on NS.

The Gaullican Republic,
I thank God for Three Things:
Kylaris, the death of Esquarium, and Prem <3

The Transtsabaran Federation and The Chistovodian Workers' State

To understand European history watch these: Cultural erosion, German and Italian history, a brief history of Germany.

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Terminus Alpha
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Postby Terminus Alpha » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:15 am

Elepis wrote:does anyone want to ally with Zoroastrian Persia?

gib jizya
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Elepis
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Postby Elepis » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:17 am

Liecthenbourg wrote:
Elepis wrote:
or you could be vassal of us?


did Tamerlane happen in this? if not I will just be a Zoroastrian Ilkhanate

LOL. Mughals bow to no man, (Not yet) especially a fellow sand-dweller :P

Probably.


we could team up and spread to light of Ahura Mazda throughout Asia!

Oh well, I like Tamerlane so that is okay I guess
"Krugmar - Today at 10:00 PM
Not sure that'll work on Elepis considering he dislikes (from what I've observed):
A: Nationalism
B: Religion being taken seriously
C: The Irish"

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Elepis
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Postby Elepis » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:17 am

Terminus Alpha wrote:
Elepis wrote:does anyone want to ally with Zoroastrian Persia?

gib jizya


pardon?
"Krugmar - Today at 10:00 PM
Not sure that'll work on Elepis considering he dislikes (from what I've observed):
A: Nationalism
B: Religion being taken seriously
C: The Irish"

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