The Era of the Enlightened(OOC/Sign UPs/AH-RP)

[Caltarania]

*Pokes off with pike* Greece ist mine

I have to be, you is farther away from them...

>Borders Bosnia,
>Almost borders sicily
>Has direct conflict with Al-Andus

bby plz Venetian Stormtroopers in coming

>Venice
>Caring about religion if there are trade or monetary incentives not to
>ICD pls they burned Constantinople, cooperated with the Ottomans and traded with the Egyptians

Reservation
Nation Name: لخلافة العباسية‎ | al-Khilāfah al-‘Abbāsīyah
Location/Claims: http://i.imgur.com/RHYNDjN.png
This is my reservation, there are many like it but this one is mine.
~Part of the Kool Kids Klub~ Do not delete

Welcome to the Muhammadan Brohood, dude.

Alright sorry about that it's been awhile

http://i.imgur.com/YgaONSY.png?1

That's a hella lot of colonies for even late 1700s, fyi ;-;

How would y'all feel about this?

Please be Muslim.

This RP makes me laugh because of how historically Muslims have been much more tolerant than Christians. I feel like there would be a lot more Jews in Europe in this TL.

Spain, in particular, would be a rather lovely place if it stayed unified under a caliphate instead of getting Reconquista'd up the ass.

Yup. Our Jewish population probably means that we can also have a decent fiscal situation instead of having 5 billion inflation from importing gold from the Americas like idiots.

Speaking of the Americas, I think that we should seriously talk about American colonies. Assuming this rp takes place n 1700, then some people have far too many which are far too large. By this time, the Thirteen Colonies were only settled on the coast and only Spain/Portugal had any colonies of the size which most nations seem to be claiming in this rp.

Spain, in particular, would be a rather lovely place if it stayed unified under a caliphate instead of getting Reconquista'd up the ass.

No it wouldn't have been, It be Muslim.

Ah, yes, because I'm sure the Jews loved the inquisition just fine.

... who exactly is claiming to be Caliph? We can't have this many Muslims and not know who our potential heads of the faith are.

The Abbasids in Baghdad are clearly an option, as they call their country a Caliphate. Does Al-Andalus still carry the Ummyad torch? Does the Muhgal Emperor claim such a grand title? Do the Bosniks think they deserve it for being on the front lines? Does the Pope have a secret Muslim alter-ego?

We never claimed the title of Caliph as, AFAIK, that was what started the end of al-Andalus. We may want to claim it later on in the rp though, idk.

http://i.imgur.com/qyM8mwI.png

Goodnight!

You did not give Bermuda even though I had it on my map, could you also give me the rest of Hispanolia (aka Dominican Republic) and some more of Brazil( specifically claiming the Minas Gerais region) and my Nova Scotia still hasn't been added as well. I would fix it myself but the OSU game is on.

YOU HAD TOO MANY FUCKING COLONIES FOR FUCKING 1700.

Crusade for South France Y/N?

Jihad for Venice Y/N?

[Kisinger]

The Emiricas... And he doesn't the Dutch controlled more, especially since I took out his Venezuela claim...

[Conwy-Shire]

Hey Kisinger, I know that there is a general *realism* rule in place, but what would be your thoughts on Georgia...
a) Western Tech-levels
and/or
b) owning one of the two island in the Lesser Antilles (Martinique and St Lucia are unclaimed)

I'd still be ok with neither, your call

[Caltarania]

The Emiricas... And he doesn't the Dutch controlled more, especially since I took out his Venezuela claim...

The Dutch controlled almost no territory in the Americas in 1700.

If people insist on having colonial empires this big, then I will humbly ask to expand mine considering it's like 70% of Spain's power.

[Kisinger]

The Emiricas... And he doesn't the Dutch controlled more, especially since I took out his Venezuela claim...

The Dutch controlled almost no territory in the Americas in 1700.

If people insist on having colonial empires this big, then I will humbly ask to expand mine considering it's like 70% of Spain's power.

Well of course not, all that was left after the Portugese and Spainsh took all the good shit, which I mean I'm redoing all colonies later once I have my last class at 3 pm Eastern US

[Caltarania]

The Dutch controlled almost no territory in the Americas in 1700.

If people insist on having colonial empires this big, then I will humbly ask to expand mine considering it's like 70% of Spain's power.

Well of course not, all that was left after the Portugese and Spainsh took all the good shit, which I mean I'm redoing all colonies later

;-;

You said in the post above "And he doesn't the Dutch controlled more, especially since I took out his Venezuela claim...", which is like objectively wrong.

Anyway, I edited my colonies.

[Kisinger]

Well of course not, all that was left after the Portugese and Spainsh took all the good shit, which I mean I'm redoing all colonies later

;-;

You said in the post above "And he doesn't the Dutch controlled more, especially since I took out his Venezuela claim...", which is like objectively wrong.

Anyway, I edited my colonies.

Well they did control Guyana... Which if you take out the claims he lost, it's roughly the same with him having more towards Uruguay also take Goa

[Caltarania]

;-;

You said in the post above "And he doesn't the Dutch controlled more, especially since I took out his Venezuela claim...", which is like objectively wrong.

Anyway, I edited my colonies.

Well they did control Guyana... Which if you take out the claims he lost, it's roughly the same with him having more towards Uruguay

You're kidding me, right? He has that huge blob in south Brazil last I checked.

Also edited again to give me African ports so that the East Indian claims make sense.

[Kisinger]

Well they did control Guyana... Which if you take out the claims he lost, it's roughly the same with him having more towards Uruguay

You're kidding me, right? He has that huge blob in south Brazil last I checked.

Also edited again to give me African ports so that the East Indian claims make sense.

Don't worry I'll be redoing colonial claims... Majorly... Just wait for my classes...

[Caltarania]

You're kidding me, right? He has that huge blob in south Brazil last I checked.

Also edited again to give me African ports so that the East Indian claims make sense.

Don't worry I'll be redoing colonial claims... Majorly... Just wait for my classes...

How exactly are we meant to work out colonial populations if you redo colonial claims?

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Can I switch to the Holy Roman Empire's KIngdom of Italy? (You know the one dissolved early on, the Iron crown and all) In response to that, I\ll drop the Venetian coast to Balkani.

[Kisinger]

Don't worry I'll be redoing colonial claims... Majorly... Just wait for my classes...

How exactly are we meant to work out colonial populations if you redo colonial claims?

I'll do them, I'm not that much of a ass... Usually...

[Sanabel]

Shall I make the Emirato di Napoli some floozy liberal Islam, or some hardcore Saudi Arabia type conservatism?

[Caltarania]

Shall I make the Emirato di Napoli some floozy liberal Islam, or some hardcore Saudi Arabia type conservatism?

Well, I'm p sure that al-Andalus will be going with Enlightened Despotism, but idk yet.

[Liecthenbourg]

I feel it's an issue if the Entire Muslim world is basically united in alliance.

Muhgals aren't.... And Granada doesn't seem kin on giving up it Caliph title either... So it's not 'united' but making threats against their religion will only unite them...

It's not like the Mughals would be actively helping the other Muslims if there was a large alliance anyway.
1) we're too far away
2) we have our own problems.

It's funny, there was an Ottoman Mughal alliance IRL and the Mughals were on campaign when the Ottomans asked for help and they pretty much went "sorry, can't lol, killing Hindu rebels"

I'm now seriously considering changing the Mughals to Zoroastrians or Nestorian Christians. Probably the former if I do it.

[Sanabel]

Shall I make the Emirato di Napoli some floozy liberal Islam, or some hardcore Saudi Arabia type conservatism?

Well, I'm p sure that al-Andalus will be going with Enlightened Despotism, but idk yet.

I think we will probably be pretty floozy and tolerant. Otherwise, that's even more a reason for the northerners to unite and reconquista my ass.

But then there's the fear it isn't conservative enough and the Italiban could strike.

[Caltarania]

Well, I'm p sure that al-Andalus will be going with Enlightened Despotism, but idk yet.

I think we will probably be pretty floozy and tolerant. Otherwise, that's even more a reason for the northerners to unite and reconquista my ass.

But then there's the fear it isn't conservative enough and the Italiban could strike.

Well, I'm going with Monarchism, absolutism, conservative liberalism, conservatism, mild Islamism as my ideologies, so I hope to get the best of both. -shrug-

[Conchabira]

You're kidding me, right? He has that huge blob in south Brazil last I checked.

Also edited again to give me African ports so that the East Indian claims make sense.

Don't worry I'll be redoing colonial claims... Majorly... Just wait for my classes...

I am willing to make my Brazilian claim slightly smaller but comparing my country to the Netherlands is not accurate, my nation has a decently sized navy and large pooulation, also look at a map of the colonies of the new world in 1700. By 1700 the population of the thirteen colonies was roughly one million people in size and South America was far more colonized by this point. My nation, Burgundy, is actually roughly equal to Calts in strength and look at his colonies. The Dutch also had large colonies in Asia and Africa by that point too, Calts map only showed the new world.

[Sanabel]

I think we will probably be pretty floozy and tolerant. Otherwise, that's even more a reason for the northerners to unite and reconquista my ass.

But then there's the fear it isn't conservative enough and the Italiban could strike.

Well, I'm going with Monarchism, absolutism, conservative liberalism, conservatism, mild Islamism as my ideologies, so I hope to get the best of both. -shrug-

Mine will definitely be a monarchy either way. But I can't decide whether to have hardcore sharia law, polygamy, burka wearing, and basically no women's rights.

Or I could have basically no hijab wearing even, monogamy, women's equality, more Italian culture, and a very tolerant people.

[Conchabira]

Well they did control Guyana... Which if you take out the claims he lost, it's roughly the same with him having more towards Uruguay

You're kidding me, right? He has that huge blob in south Brazil last I checked.

Also edited again to give me African ports so that the East Indian claims make sense.

Also you are complaining about my territories meanwhile you have land in freaking North Dakota.

[Liecthenbourg]

Generic Info
Nation Name: Mughal Empire, Gūrkāniyān, Mug̱liyah Salṭanat
Symbols: Flag, Flag #2, Imperial Seal
Homeland Population: 127,026,000, as per Populstat/Wikipedia for 1700 AD. Could be slightly more because of some extra provinces in Pakistan.
Imperial Population: THE GLORIOUS MUGHAL EMPIRE CLAIMS OWNERSHIP OF THE ENTIRE WORLD, yet, we can't be bothered to do a census
Location/Claims: Edited of course, to how you saw fit Kisi, so no Goa or Pondicherry.
Capital City: Shahjahanabad | Delhi

Government Info
Government Type: Unitary State with a Federal Structure under an Absolute Monarchy
Brief Explanation of Government: The Indian Subcontinent is split into various governances that all answer directly to the Emperor. He is the executive, legislative and legal head of the Empire and his word is law; but his governors have autonomy to run their governances as they wish; as long as they comply to the administrative techniques and other such ruling devices employed by Bahar
Ideology: Monarchism, Conservative Liberalism, Zoroastrianism, Militarism, Imperialism, Anti-Slavery
Leader/s: Shahriyar Bahar, Shahanshah of the Mughal Empire.

Population Info
Brief Description of your people: The Mughal Empire is a huge melting pot of cultures, traditions and faiths. The ruling and upper classes, as a rule of thumb, speak Persian and it is a court language. They are also all, at least outwardly, Zoroastrians. Many people in the north of the state adhere to this religion as well. The lower classes however, and most of the populace for that matter, are composed of various Indian Cultures, ranging from Marathas to other such Southern Indian peoples, to Northern Indian peoples. The cultural differences of the Mughal Empire were never much of a problem in the past, but policies change with Emperors. Shahriyar Bahar, however, is quite a tolerant man. He promotes Hindus to ranks of governances to appease more vocal populaces and has a general respect for the minorities of his land. To say what would come after his death? That is an unknown.
Religion: Zoroastrianism as the state religion and the dominant religion in the northern provinces of the Empire. However, Hinduism is the majority religion across the subcontinent and there are notable Buddhist, Sikh and Sunni and Shia Islam minorities as well a very minor presence of Nestorian and Catholic Christians in coastal trade ports and treaty ports.
Ethnicity: Punjabi, Pashtun, Urdu, Balochi, Northern Indian, Southern Indian, etc.
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Persian, Northern Indian Cultures, Pashtun
Other Cultures: Afghars, Southern Indian Cultures

Military Info
Army: The Mughal Army is separated into its infantry, its cavalry and its artillery. However, the Mughal Empire has no regimental structure in its army. The soldiers of the Mughal Army are not recruited by the emperor himself but rather by chiefs and other leaders, who are known as Mansabdars. The Mansabdars are ranked based on the number of men that they can raise and the ranking system is known as the mansab. The Mughal Army numbers at roughly 1,200,000 professional soldiers. 800,000 occupy the role of infantrymen, 370,000 take the form of cavalrymen and the remaining 30,000 serve as gunners and artillerists of all forms for the Empire's extensive artillery units; ranging from cannons to rockets. Equipment varies tremendously, the most wealthy of the Mansabdars manage to afford very good and modern equipment for the armies, ranging from the latest muskets purchased from European powers or from very high quality wootz steel muskets produced locally to standardised uniforms. The less economically viable mansabdars have their men wielding lower quality muskets, bows, swords and other archaic weapons. However, even these soldiers prove their uses to the campaigns regularly fielded by the Mughal Empire.
Navy: To put it bluntly, the Mughal Navy is laughable. The Shahanshah and his predecessors have never thought of the idea of a large and powerful navy to fit their ends. Mughal ships are galley esque, dhows and other such coastal defensive ships. There are some large vessels of their own design fitted with Mughal Cannon, but these are few and far inbetween and their states of conditions range from the 'prestige of the navy' to 'that floating tree with a musket strapped to it'. All in all, the Mughal mindset in regards to its navy is one for defence of the coastal waters and occasional patrolling of trade routes. A rough estimation of a good few hundred galleys, dhows, Xebecs and other such ships would be appropriate. With about, 8 of these 'larger' aforementioned ships.

Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: The economy of the Mughal Empire is gargantuan. Well enforced administrative policies of the Aurangzeb regime have allowed a great increase in the tax revenue in comparison to his forebearers. Even so, huge swathes of the Mughal land and economy pay homage to agriculture and other raw materials exploits, such as mining and logging. Small manufacturing enterprises exist in both treaty ports and other major ports visited by the Europeans. Trade is another important aspect of the empire, with regular trading voyages to the nations present in Indonesia, the Maldives, Ceylon, the Middle East and South East Asia.
Goals: Consolidate the power of the Mughal Empire across the subcontinent, stop the rebellious ideas through tolerance and understanding, continue to resist the attempts of the Europeans in encroaching in India.
History: I'm going to be honest and say that barely anything has changed. However, culturally many things have. The Mughal Dynasty, and many of the Mongol Claimants I suppose, convert to Zoroastrian and not Islam due to their meddling in Persia. The Mughal Dynasty is one such example of this. They invade India as normal, etc, but are Zoroastrians instead of Muslims and do pretty much exactly the same as the Mughals IOTL up until now. However, Shahriyar Bahar is more tolerant than his real life contemporary of Aurangzeb.
RP Sample: Kisi bby...
429 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

I just threw this together really quickly Edited things here and there and everywhere just replacing 'Muslim' with 'Zoroastrian' and gave a bit better of the explanation of Zoroastrian Muslims. It also opens up Zoroastrian Persia if you still want it, Kisi.
Just a question, would the Islamic Forces ITTL invaded Persia and failed? Or did they just leave it alone?

[The Greater Dutch Republic]

So, to clarify some things. Yes, Tuscany would be Catholic. Tuscany, if anything, would have a tiny colony in modern day Dakar, Senegal, called New Florence. Also maybe the smaller province in modern Dominican Republic.

Why didn't anyone pay any attention to tiny little Tuscany?

[Sanabel]

So, to clarify some things. Yes, Tuscany would be Catholic. Tuscany, if anything, would have a tiny colony in modern day Dakar, Senegal, called New Florence. Also maybe the smaller province in modern Dominican Republic.

Why didn't anyone pay any attention to tiny little Tuscany?

I'm too salty at them, because if they could potentially have colonies, I should too.

[The Greater Dutch Republic]

Generic Info
Nation Name: Kingdom of Tuscany
Symbols: (ex. Flag, Coat of Arms, National Anthem, personifications, etc.)
Homeland Population: (population of everyone considered a citizen)
Imperial Population: (include population of colonies)
Location/Claims: Controlled: all the white stuff left in Italy, as well as Dakar, Senegal(New Florence), and Isle de Juventad, Cuba. Claimed: all of Modern day Tuscany, Cuba, and Senegal.
Capital City: Florence

Government Info
Government Type: Parliamentary Consitutional Monarchy
Brief Explanation of Government: Basically, the UK. But the King has a bit more power.
Ideology: (Refer to this)
Leader/s: (Head of State, Head of Government, etc.)

Population Info
Brief Description of your people:
Religion: Roman Catholic
Ethnicity: North Italian, although they consider themselves to be a seperate culture called Tuscan.
Main/Accepted Culture(s): North Italian
Other Cultures: N/A. There's really not much else. Even the colonies are predominantly settlers.

Military Info
Army: (branches, number of troops, quality of army, etc,)
Navy: (branches, number of troops, quality of navy, etc,)

Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: Tuscany is a trading power(like the rest of Italy) due to its position at the center of the Mediterranean, and as such uses it's wealth to find its colonies.
Goals: Moar colonies, even bigger economy, unite Italy under a confederation.
History:
RP Sample: (required)
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Work in Progress.

[The Greater Dutch Republic]

Why didn't anyone pay any attention to tiny little Tuscany?

I'm too salty at them, because if they could potentially have colonies, I should too.

Well, you're at the center of the Med Sea. You should be a trading power, therefore having a large economy. You can have colonies, in my opinion. In fact, you should be the richest Italian state.