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Postby Bycrest » Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:52 am

Tracian Empire wrote:The only thing I can't understand is why for God's sake are we going all political about a world in 2030 we know nothing about? Instead of endless and useless arguments, we can go on the simplest variant. The attack provokes tensions among the RAMH and creates certain retaliations against metas in Europe.

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I believe that madness can find more madness, and that every ounce of madness has a spark of truth. And truth, as you know, has a way of depressing people who don't want to find it.

No one is 100% honest... We all keep 20% of the truth from the world, to protect ourselves & sometimes others.

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Postby Galnius » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:09 pm

Which kills your characters anyway.....as stated before. They can't beat the hunters out of Paris or into it, as its been stated RP wise that every airport has a good few on call. They are already in Paris, they are already out of Paris, and before the missile even lands and it is discovered that it was terrorists, retaliation against France is already assured, as well as precautionary measures by all of RAMH. It's common sense. When someone hits you, strike back and protect yourself.

Bycrest wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:The only thing I can't understand is why for God's sake are we going all political about a world in 2030 we know nothing about? Instead of endless and useless arguments, we can go on the simplest variant. The attack provokes tensions among the RAMH and creates certain retaliations against metas in Europe.

THAT'S WHAT I SAID!
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The Greater Gambia
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Postby The Greater Gambia » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:12 pm

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Tracian Empire
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Postby Tracian Empire » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:13 pm

Galnius wrote:Which kills your characters anyway.....as stated before. They can't beat the hunters out of Paris or into it, as its been stated RP wise that every airport has a good few on call. They are already in Paris, they are already out of Paris, and before the missile even lands and it is discovered that it was terrorists, retaliation against France is already assured, as well as precautionary measures by all of RAMH. It's common sense. When someone hits you, strike back and protect yourself.

Bycrest wrote:THAT'S WHAT I SAID!


1. Julius and Rose were 20km away from Paris. By the moment the Frenchies realize the base was attacked, they will be far, far away.

Also, I don't mind getting chased. Being chased doesn't mean death.

2. The last time I checked, we had no information about the RAMH besides from the fact that it apparently controls the entire world. Your debate is all nice, but let's face it, it will ultimately be the OP's decision.

For me personally, this arguments about realism are really making me angry. You're in a RP. Enjoy it, stoo thinking about world politics.
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Postby Tracian Empire » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:16 pm

Also, it just came to my mind.

If the RAMH would comit retaliation against France, and nuke it, that would be a genocide. They would kill millions of innocent normal humans.
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Galnius
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Postby Galnius » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:18 pm

Sorry about that Gambia, phone iss
The Greater Gambia wrote:My only problem with this Rp is that Galnius puts his post above the quotes instead of below it like everyone else. It's driving me insane!
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Postby Galnius » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:26 pm

20 km? And that's a large eenough amount now? Umm....also, while this debate about LOGIC is pissing you off, the fact that you need to kill millions of people just because is pissing me off. Didn't we have this issue before when soldiers were being killed just because? Also, unless the player has said so, Omega Is still after you. Hunters are now after you. People have enough trouble with one hunter, you aren't escaping half a dozen (random likely number, though is say at least three.). Then of course there is the almighty beatstick who is supposed to come after ypu if a meta kills tons of people. Here, ya, chasing equals death

Tracian Empire wrote:
Galnius wrote:Which kills your characters anyway.....as stated before. They can't beat the hunters out of Paris or into it, as its been stated RP wise that every airport has a good few on call. They are already in Paris, they are already out of Paris, and before the missile even lands and it is discovered that it was terrorists, retaliation against France is already assured, as well as precautionary measures by all of RAMH. It's common sense. When someone hits you, strike back and protect yourself.



1. Julius and Rose were 20km away from Paris. By the moment the Frenchies realize the base was attacked, they will be far, far away.

Also, I don't mind getting chased. Being chased doesn't mean death.

2. The last time I checked, we had no information about the RAMH besides from the fact that it apparently controls the entire world. Your debate is all nice, but let's face it, it will ultimately be the OP's decision.

For me personally, this arguments about realism are really making me angry. You're in a RP. Enjoy it, stoo thinking about world politics.
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Before you complain, remember, Kangaroos can't hop backwards. Really makes your problems seem small don't it.

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Postby Arstotzkas » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:28 pm

Alright, what's happening?
behold, a signature.

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Tracian Empire
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Postby Tracian Empire » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:29 pm

Arstotzkas wrote:Alright, what's happening?

We had a long debate concerning what might happen now that Brazil was nuked.
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Postby Galnius » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:30 pm

Seriously, on a list of things that got your point across without nuking is...assassinations of the minister of defense and president. Toppling the eiffel tower. But no, you have to nuke s place, just because.
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Postby Tracian Empire » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:31 pm

Galnius wrote:Seriously, on a list of things that got your point across without nuking is...assassinations of the minister of defense and president. Toppling the eiffel tower. But no, you have to nuke s place, just because.

I did it because it helped Rose's plot.
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Unified Free Lands
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Postby Unified Free Lands » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:31 pm

I'm bailing from this RP if I can find some reason for my characters to go away ICly.
Here lies a bad OP.

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Postby Tracian Empire » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:33 pm

Unified Free Lands wrote:I'm bailing from this RP if I can find some reason for my characters to go away ICly.

Wait, why?
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Postby The Greater Gambia » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:33 pm

Unified Free Lands wrote:I'm bailing from this RP if I can find some reason for my characters to go away ICly.


I could kill her?
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Arstotzkas
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Postby Arstotzkas » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:35 pm

Ok. Let's just say that Brazil's nuclear defense systems shot down the missile but some radiation still spread. Does that work?

Unified Free Lands wrote:I'm bailing from this RP if I can find some reason for my characters to go away ICly.


Why? Something wrong?
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Tracian Empire
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Postby Tracian Empire » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:35 pm

Arstotzkas wrote:Ok. Let's just say that Brazil's nuclear defense systems shot down the missile but some radiation still spread. Does that work?

Unified Free Lands wrote:I'm bailing from this RP if I can find some reason for my characters to go away ICly.


Why? Something wrong?

We need the capital to be hit. I don't care about the radiation.
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Unified Free Lands
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Postby Unified Free Lands » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:36 pm

Tracian Empire wrote:
Unified Free Lands wrote:I'm bailing from this RP if I can find some reason for my characters to go away ICly.

Wait, why?

Apparently we aren't allowed to have evil characters and I don't feel like arguing all the time with Galnius. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Unified Free Lands wrote:I'm bailing from this RP if I can find some reason for my characters to go away ICly.


I could kill her?

Maybe, if I do figure out what to do with the other characters I have.
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Postby Galnius » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:37 pm

So there is no other ways to go about it? And how is Roses plot going to continue of she can't get out of France? How is Sound going to get to her without taking a plane? How is she going to get to sound without a plane? That doesn't further roses plot, it ends it ends it for a few weeks icly at the least.


Tracian Empire wrote:
Galnius wrote:Seriously, on a list of things that got your point across without nuking is...assassinations of the minister of defense and president. Toppling the eiffel tower. But no, you have to nuke s place, just because.

I did it because it helped Rose's plot.
And that works for me Ars, and if UFL leaves they don't have to worry anout the inability to continue the plot, so I'd ask Trace.
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The Greater Gambia
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Postby The Greater Gambia » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:39 pm

Gal, just go with the flow.

As for me, this just gets rid of any moral hang up Alexandre might have about betraying his former classmates.
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Unified Free Lands
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Postby Unified Free Lands » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:40 pm

Galnius wrote:So there is no other ways to go about it? And how is Roses plot going to continue of she can't get out of France? How is Sound going to get to her without taking a plane? How is she going to get to sound without a plane? That doesn't further roses plot, it ends it ends it for a few weeks icly at the least.


Tracian Empire wrote:I did it because it helped Rose's plot.
And that works for me Ars, and if UFL leaves they don't have to worry anout the inability to continue the plot, so I'd ask Trace.

You do realize that Rose isn't on the record as existing, right?

She'll just get rid of the fake IDs she travels on and then lay low in Sierra Leone until she can get back to the States.

EDIT: The only official records about her are stored by the Brazilian Special Forces and the only way to see them was to scan the barcode tattoo on her arm, which is covered up by now.
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Galnius
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Postby Galnius » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:51 pm

That doesn't help her get out or Sound get in. Also, CAINE would have something showing she exists :p. And I'm fine with evil, I'm not fine with stupid and unnecessary killing. Even evil people aren't and will try to rationalize when they do.

And no one has used a WMD since WW2 for a reason. Did you know that everyone who dropped the bombs on Japan fell Into a massive depression? Most if not all commited suicide. There plots ended with that bomb. Humankind can't withstand unnecessary mass murder, and it shouldn't need to be done In an rp to have fun. If you need to nuke a place for fun, even Imaginary, you need help, as even I, someone who has been abused in every freaking way, find that heavily unnecessary. Clearly there is a chemical imbalance involved.

Unified Free Lands wrote:
Galnius wrote:So there is no other ways to go about it? And how is Roses plot going to continue of she can't get out of France? How is Sound going to get to her without taking a plane? How is she going to get to sound without a plane? That doesn't further roses plot, it ends it ends it for a few weeks icly at the least.


And that works for me Ars, and if UFL leaves they don't have to worry anout the inability to continue the plot, so I'd ask Trace.

You do realize that Rose isn't on the record as existing, right?

She'll just get rid of the fake IDs she travels on and then lay low in Sierra Leone until she can get back to the States.

EDIT: The only official records about her are stored by the Brazilian Special Forces and the only way to see them was to scan the barcode tattoo on her arm, which is covered up by now.
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The Greater Gambia
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Postby The Greater Gambia » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:54 pm

Galnius wrote:Humankind can't withstand unnecessary mass murder


That-That's not even remotely true.
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Postby Unified Free Lands » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:56 pm

That's it, I'm out. Arguing with Galnius is pointless, if he's just going to ignore the reasons for things and then turn this into a philosophical argument.
Here lies a bad OP.

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The Greater Gambia
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Postby The Greater Gambia » Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:00 pm

Look what you dun did Galnuis, you dun goofed. Also, according to Spellcheck, dun is a word.
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Galnius
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Postby Galnius » Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:02 pm

Really? Everyone who did those things either were just flat out psycho or just plan killed themselves. Or both.
The Greater Gambia wrote:
Galnius wrote:Humankind can't withstand unnecessary mass murder


That-That's not even remotely true.

UFL, I'm not ignoring reasons, I'm stating that there is a million other better ways to do so, and none will affect your plot. However, bring unable to leave the country and being unable for sound to get in DOES affect your plot. I mean...you could always take a boat, but then you'd be out of the rp for a few days IICly at least....
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