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Favorite Hokage?

First Hokage
5
14%
Second Hokage
2
6%
Third Hokage
5
14%
Fourth Hokage
3
8%
Fifth Hokage
8
22%
Sixth Hokage
5
14%
Seventh Hokage
8
22%
 
Total votes : 36

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Postby The Rebel Alliances » Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:46 pm

Imperial--japan wrote:
The Rebel Alliances wrote:You say it like it is a handicap. Not for him. But yeah, just a reference to his self challenges.

Just read more on Mitsuki...must....not....

Apparently, Mitsuki had the audacity to say that his 'father' still no idea how on earth this occurred. Is more powerful than Naruto and Sasuke. I mean, the crap had me raging. Orochimaru is not worthy to be called a Sanin. His feats are minimal and non existent when compared to most comparable characters, and a quick sum up.

Naruto
-Mastered Sage Jutsu
-Defeated the Six Pains
No more feats are needed and that is just to the invasion of Pain arc, I dont even know what he does after.

Sasuke
-Killed Danzo
-Battled Killer B(Lost but still went toe to toe)
-Went toe to toe with Itachi(Who Orochimaru could not defeat if he was dreaming it)
-Battled all five Kage
And again, this is not even all of the feats and only goes up to around the same point I believe.

Now, for all I can think of for Orochimaru
-Caused the Death of 3rd Hokage(He killed himself, and he was far from his prime, and Orochimaru was in his prime, I think)
-Battled Jiraiya and Tsunade(While he was crippled, Jiraiya was poisoned and I think Tsunade was healthy)
-Failed to gain Itachi's Body
-Akatsuki drop out
-Failed to gain Sasuke's body
-Killed By Sasuke
-Trained, and abandoned Anko(Seriously, best part about his character was Anko)

Orochimaru was barely a decent opening villain. I, just really dislike his character, and inventing a child for him and throwing him in the story was just...laziness.

You don't give Orochimaru enough credit really. You really only listed his failures while listing the successes of the other two.

- Owned a summon, because owning a summon is actually relatively hard to accomplish unless someone is passing their contract down.
- Orochimaru, being skilled and diverse in elemental ninjutsu, can use all five elemental chakra nature transformations as well as Yin and Yang Release.
- Being the only true adherent to science in the show, he managed to basically invent his own ways of becoming immortal. (Living corpse reincarnation)
- Orochimaru is one of the three people capable of performing Summoning: Impure World Reincarnation.
- Orochimaru's other method of immortality are the cursed seals he developed. In addition to his senjutsu chakra, each cursed seal contains a portion of Orochimaru's consciousness, which allows him to share the senses of those who bear his seals. In the event that he is killed or sealed, he can be revived through one of his cursed seals if an individual presses flesh containing his DNA up to the cursed seal and uses the Evil Releasing Method. Through this process, Orochimaru can be completely resurrected any number of times.
- Although downplayed for much of the series, Orochimaru is also very skilled in the use of fūinjutsu.
- Orochimaru would of become capable of sage mode, had it not been for his weakning body as a result of his reincarnations.
- His fight with the third Hokage did not have Orochimaru in his prime, but simply shortly after one of his reincarnations, which would only leave him relatively stronger than if he waited for the body to decay some.


Now don't get me wrong, he is not stronger than Naruto or Sasuke at this point, but he was plenty able to be called a Sannin, which is all I'm trying to say.


Perhaps you are right, I listed failures because failures are what I think of when someone mentions his name. I mean, for all of his skills in ninjutsu and attempts at immortality.His actual accomplishments are rather limited. You listed a lot of skills he possessed, but he barely achieved anything with them, at least that I can see.

Perhaps he fills his niche in the Sanin, while Jiraiya became a Sage, and Tsunade a medical powerhouse, Orochimaru did manage to make himself come back from death a lot through his transfers and was a master of Ninjutsu.

Anyways, I am over it, the only thing that really bugged me is that rather than answering a question, like Hinata and Naruto getting together. So we no longer have to wonder if it is NaruSaku or ect. Introducing the child of Orochimaru only adds more questions.

The most blaring is....who is the mother? :blink:
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Postby Shadowwell » Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:51 pm

The Rebel Alliances wrote:
Imperial--japan wrote:You don't give Orochimaru enough credit really. You really only listed his failures while listing the successes of the other two.

- Owned a summon, because owning a summon is actually relatively hard to accomplish unless someone is passing their contract down.
- Orochimaru, being skilled and diverse in elemental ninjutsu, can use all five elemental chakra nature transformations as well as Yin and Yang Release.
- Being the only true adherent to science in the show, he managed to basically invent his own ways of becoming immortal. (Living corpse reincarnation)
- Orochimaru is one of the three people capable of performing Summoning: Impure World Reincarnation.
- Orochimaru's other method of immortality are the cursed seals he developed. In addition to his senjutsu chakra, each cursed seal contains a portion of Orochimaru's consciousness, which allows him to share the senses of those who bear his seals. In the event that he is killed or sealed, he can be revived through one of his cursed seals if an individual presses flesh containing his DNA up to the cursed seal and uses the Evil Releasing Method. Through this process, Orochimaru can be completely resurrected any number of times.
- Although downplayed for much of the series, Orochimaru is also very skilled in the use of fūinjutsu.
- Orochimaru would of become capable of sage mode, had it not been for his weakning body as a result of his reincarnations.
- His fight with the third Hokage did not have Orochimaru in his prime, but simply shortly after one of his reincarnations, which would only leave him relatively stronger than if he waited for the body to decay some.


Now don't get me wrong, he is not stronger than Naruto or Sasuke at this point, but he was plenty able to be called a Sannin, which is all I'm trying to say.


Perhaps you are right, I listed failures because failures are what I think of when someone mentions his name. I mean, for all of his skills in ninjutsu and attempts at immortality.His actual accomplishments are rather limited. You listed a lot of skills he possessed, but he barely achieved anything with them, at least that I can see.

Perhaps he fills his niche in the Sanin, while Jiraiya became a Sage, and Tsunade a medical powerhouse, Orochimaru did manage to make himself come back from death a lot through his transfers and was a master of Ninjutsu.

Anyways, I am over it, the only thing that really bugged me is that rather than answering a question, like Hinata and Naruto getting together. So we no longer have to wonder if it is NaruSaku or ect. Introducing the child of Orochimaru only adds more questions.

The most blaring is....who is the mother? :blink:

Do you really want to know that.
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Postby The Templar High Council » Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:56 pm

Alouite wrote:
The Templar High Council wrote:My biggest problem is saying the entire clan is overall proficient in lightning, water, and wind style (ice is a combo of wind and water) while your "Child of Legend" can use fire and possibly earth style (some sources list Ash style as fire/earth combo, others don't acknowledge Ash style).

Basically, you're giving your one character too much power. And one clan being innately good at water, wind, and lightning while being based in the land of fire makes negative sense.

I have more issues, but I don't want to kill my phone's battery.

Oh. And ice style is already a kekkei genkai. Remember Haku? His clan is the Yuki clan. Their kekkei genkai is ice style. I've never seen a kekkei genkai belonging to multiple clans.


That shouldn't be too much of an issue. The Successor Child is unique from most of the shinobi and very rare only occuring once every few generation as a result of radically different, but rare genes. Secondly, I am not giving him too much power, however, I will only disclose his weaknesses directly to you and/or the OPs via telegram, the weaknesses were supposed to emerge later on. Thirdly, His clan is very unique from others, with most of the clan being good at a combination of both Ice and Lightning style which they use together channeling electricity through the ice rather than using Ice techniques alone, or being only able to use lightning style if their genes lead to that and at the same time having severely recessive genes that have an almost opposite chakra nature that is more powerful than most clansmen popping up very rarely.

Don't care. You are not giving your character access to every chakra nature. It's not fair. Very few characters in Naruto had access to more than two, much less all 5 elements.

At most, I only see 2 elements being a kekkei genkai. 3 is ridiculous. And saying your clan is "very unique..." Every clan is unique. That's why they're separate. Not every ninja can use Lava Style, or shadow control, or Sharingan techniques. You don't have to try and make yourself OP to be unique.

Alouite wrote:What do you think Templar? Should we just say they're part of a late enrollment program and call it a convenient but plausibly reasonable plot point?

Another group of genin is also meeting each other at the same time. I'm just ignoring the time difference, maybe they're part of the spring semester?
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The Templar High Council wrote:You don't have to try and make yourself OP to be unique.

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Postby The Rebel Alliances » Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:59 pm

It's this nagging point in the back of my mind. They reveal the pairings and children of everyone else, almost.

They reveal Ino gets Sai, Shikamaru gets Temari and Choji gets Karui. And then detail their kids.

But Mitsuki(Who has among the only decent names, that is a plus, still cannot get passed 'Boruto') is just...there. It states that not even he knows his mother or how he really even exists. Because I dont believe Orochimaru was in a good condition to have a child. Kinda dead and all.

But, seeing how it is Orochimaru perhaps he came back somehow from death. Who knows. Alright off to read the IC.
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Postby Bycrest » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:02 pm

New Rob Halfordia wrote:
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Quiet you.

I smell a conspiracy!
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Postby New Rob Halfordia » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:04 pm

The Rebel Alliances wrote:It's this nagging point in the back of my mind. They reveal the pairings and children of everyone else, almost.

They reveal Ino gets Sai, Shikamaru gets Temari and Choji gets Karui. And then detail their kids.

But Mitsuki(Who has among the only decent names, that is a plus, still cannot get passed 'Boruto') is just...there. It states that not even he knows his mother or how he really even exists. Because I dont believe Orochimaru was in a good condition to have a child. Kinda dead and all.

But, seeing how it is Orochimaru perhaps he came back somehow from death. Who knows. Alright off to read the IC.

Reb, spoilers.
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Postby New Rob Halfordia » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:05 pm

Bycrest wrote:
New Rob Halfordia wrote:Quiet you.

I smell a conspiracy!

Just go along with it. Stop questioning plot holes, and eventually, we may find a way to patch them.
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Postby Shadowwell » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:06 pm

The Rebel Alliances wrote:It's this nagging point in the back of my mind. They reveal the pairings and children of everyone else, almost.

They reveal Ino gets Sai, Shikamaru gets Temari and Choji gets Karui. And then detail their kids.

But Mitsuki(Who has among the only decent names, that is a plus, still cannot get passed 'Boruto') is just...there. It states that not even he knows his mother or how he really even exists. Because I dont believe Orochimaru was in a good condition to have a child. Kinda dead and all.

But, seeing how it is Orochimaru perhaps he came back somehow from death. Who knows. Alright off to read the IC.

Read at your own risk
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Postby The Rebel Alliances » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:07 pm

New Rob Halfordia wrote:
The Rebel Alliances wrote:It's this nagging point in the back of my mind. They reveal the pairings and children of everyone else, almost.

They reveal Ino gets Sai, Shikamaru gets Temari and Choji gets Karui. And then detail their kids.

But Mitsuki(Who has among the only decent names, that is a plus, still cannot get passed 'Boruto') is just...there. It states that not even he knows his mother or how he really even exists. Because I dont believe Orochimaru was in a good condition to have a child. Kinda dead and all.

But, seeing how it is Orochimaru perhaps he came back somehow from death. Who knows. Alright off to read the IC.

Reb, spoilers.

Sorry, I did not think shipping was a major issue in spoilers. I will be more careful next time.
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Postby Sonitusia » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:07 pm

Shadowwell wrote:
The Rebel Alliances wrote:It's this nagging point in the back of my mind. They reveal the pairings and children of everyone else, almost.

They reveal Ino gets Sai, Shikamaru gets Temari and Choji gets Karui. And then detail their kids.

But Mitsuki(Who has among the only decent names, that is a plus, still cannot get passed 'Boruto') is just...there. It states that not even he knows his mother or how he really even exists. Because I dont believe Orochimaru was in a good condition to have a child. Kinda dead and all.

But, seeing how it is Orochimaru perhaps he came back somehow from death. Who knows. Alright off to read the IC.

Read at your own risk
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I thought that's already in the anime :\
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Postby Bycrest » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:07 pm

New Rob Halfordia wrote:
Bycrest wrote:I smell a conspiracy!

Just go along with it. Stop questioning plot holes, and eventually, we may find a way to patch them.

Fine, I was just wondering because I was playing a Naruto game.
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Postby New Rob Halfordia » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:09 pm

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New Rob Halfordia wrote:Just go along with it. Stop questioning plot holes, and eventually, we may find a way to patch them.

Fine, I was just wondering because I was playing a Naruto game.

You can make a Jinchuriki is you want. Just not the 9 tails or 8 tails.
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Postby Bycrest » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:10 pm

It's funny that you said that about watching for enemies Alouite, because Maris is hiding in the bushes watching you write now. So if I had him pop out that would undermined your entire first impression.
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Postby Bycrest » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:11 pm

New Rob Halfordia wrote:
Bycrest wrote:Fine, I was just wondering because I was playing a Naruto game.

You can make a Jinchuriki is you want. Just not the 9 tails or 8 tails.

I don't want to, I was just wondering. Besides the only on I would want to make is a four-tails and I would have to name him Roshi or something DBZ related.
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Postby Shadowwell » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:13 pm

Sonitusia wrote:
Shadowwell wrote:Read at your own risk
Orochimaru is still alive after the Manga, since he was brought back by Sasuke.

I thought that's already in the anime :\

IT might be but i havent watched the Anime in a while.
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Postby The Templar High Council » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:14 pm

New Rob Halfordia wrote:
Bycrest wrote:I smell a conspiracy!

Just go along with it. Stop questioning plot holes, and eventually, we may find a way to patch them.

Yeah, we can't really ignore it. What with Ryoichi being the Yonbi's jinchuriki...
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Postby Sonitusia » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:14 pm

Shadowwell wrote:
Sonitusia wrote:I thought that's already in the anime :\

IT might be but i havent watched the Anime in a while.

It is.
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Postby The Rebel Alliances » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:49 pm

I have a draft saved for Aido, but I cannot finish it until tomorrow. I have to go to work in a few minutes.
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Postby The Templar High Council » Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:43 pm

Landen, Shadow, IJ, how about some introductions?
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Postby New Neros » Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:10 pm

The Rebel Alliances wrote:I have a draft saved for Aido, but I cannot finish it until tomorrow. I have to go to work in a few minutes.

Working a post for Akira now, actually.
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Postby Shadowwell » Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:58 pm

The Templar High Council wrote:Landen, Shadow, IJ, how about some introductions?

DOne, sorry it is only one paragraph, i mioght stretch it later.
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Postby The Templar High Council » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:01 pm

Shadowwell wrote:
The Templar High Council wrote:Landen, Shadow, IJ, how about some introductions?

DOne, sorry it is only one paragraph, i mioght stretch it later.

I'm fine. Just want to make sure no one forgets.
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Postby Landenburg » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:55 pm

The Templar High Council wrote:Landen, Shadow, IJ, how about some introductions?

Shoot me a TG about it so that when I wake up, I'll see the notification and be reminded please.
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thus methinks I shall bestow my codpiece in thee & make naughty love to my lady all night
Please haste hither & quench this torment fairest maiden
get some

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Postby The Templar High Council » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:58 pm

Landenburg wrote:
The Templar High Council wrote:Landen, Shadow, IJ, how about some introductions?

Shoot me a TG about it so that when I wake up, I'll see the notification and be reminded please.

I love that strategy. I made Aidan do that to me a while ago.

Too bad the RP ended up dying anyways...
They call me Temp. If I take too long to respond, just TG me. Or TG me whenever, I'm online 90% of the time.
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