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Ralnis
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Postby Ralnis » Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:48 pm

North America Inc wrote:
Shadowwell wrote:Whatever you say mister Boss, sir.

I've hated that name since CIV 4 Beyond the Sword.

You wish it be Gandhi with nukes?
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Postby Bering » Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:48 pm

North America Inc wrote:
Bering wrote:But you said it was a Casino...

I'm sorry, :p The name just rubs me the wrong way.

Fine, Fine I will live with it :p

Also, I don't see how the second dash effects me, I never said it wasn't that, merely that it had expanded it's operations greatly and while popular, few people spoke fondly of it. :p

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Postby Plzen » Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:48 pm

North America Inc wrote:The Enclave realized that without It's 'Raid Human Spray ',it would be almost impossible to simply kill everyone. That's why theirs a caste system that I touched upon when Autumn was talking to Texas Ranger Lawson.

What are willing to trade in order to get some power? It won't be free but even the Enclave have a price. .

So you want to blow up the Dam? A place crawling with Enclave Troops, APCs, and Vertibirds? Sure.

If my plan works remotely the way I intend it to, my troops will not be going anywhere near Hoover Dam. There are other ways of blowing up a dam besides the "let's attack the strongest garrison in the entire Mojave Desert" method.

It's not something I want to do anytime in the near future, nor is electricity a big priority right now, so I suppose we'll talk again later.

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Postby Bering » Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:49 pm

Ralnis wrote:
North America Inc wrote:I've hated that name since CIV 4 Beyond the Sword.

You wish it be Gandhi with nukes?

If he does, he deserves what happens next

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Postby North America Inc » Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:54 pm

Bering wrote:
North America Inc wrote:I'm sorry, :p The name just rubs me the wrong way.

Fine, Fine I will live with it :p

Also, I don't see how the second dash effects me, I never said it wasn't that, merely that it had expanded it's operations greatly and while popular, few people spoke fondly of it. :p

Wasn't sure you knew. You didn't mention house so i wanted to let you know that you were once simply a tribe.

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Postby North America Inc » Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:55 pm

Plzen wrote:
North America Inc wrote:The Enclave realized that without It's 'Raid Human Spray ',it would be almost impossible to simply kill everyone. That's why theirs a caste system that I touched upon when Autumn was talking to Texas Ranger Lawson.

What are willing to trade in order to get some power? It won't be free but even the Enclave have a price. .

So you want to blow up the Dam? A place crawling with Enclave Troops, APCs, and Vertibirds? Sure.

If my plan works remotely the way I intend it to, my troops will not be going anywhere near Hoover Dam. There are other ways of blowing up a dam besides the "let's attack the strongest garrison in the entire Mojave Desert" method.

It's not something I want to do anytime in the near future, nor is electricity a big priority right now, so I suppose we'll talk again later.

Do you still want electricity?

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Postby Tayner » Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:58 pm

Plzen wrote:
North America Inc wrote:The Enclave realized that without It's 'Raid Human Spray ',it would be almost impossible to simply kill everyone. That's why theirs a caste system that I touched upon when Autumn was talking to Texas Ranger Lawson.

What are willing to trade in order to get some power? It won't be free but even the Enclave have a price. .

So you want to blow up the Dam? A place crawling with Enclave Troops, APCs, and Vertibirds? Sure.

If my plan works remotely the way I intend it to, my troops will not be going anywhere near Hoover Dam. There are other ways of blowing up a dam besides the "let's attack the strongest garrison in the entire Mojave Desert" method.

It's not something I want to do anytime in the near future, nor is electricity a big priority right now, so I suppose we'll talk again later.

I too have a plan on how I would wreck the Dam if it comes down to it.

I would prefer to render it useless and impassable then let the legion capture it. Hell, even if the enclave do something that I can't allow happen, I'm taking out the Dam.
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Postby Bering » Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:58 pm

North America Inc wrote:
Bering wrote:Fine, Fine I will live with it :p

Also, I don't see how the second dash effects me, I never said it wasn't that, merely that it had expanded it's operations greatly and while popular, few people spoke fondly of it. :p

Wasn't sure you knew. You didn't mention house so i wanted to let you know that you were once simply a tribe.

Oh, I know at least that much. I just wasn't sure how to include him in. Just give me a couple of minutes to edit the app

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Postby Bering » Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:58 pm

Bering wrote:
Faction Name: Gomorrah (though Mr. Don and friends call themselves "The Company")
Musical Theme: Never been my strong suit, suggestions would be appreciated
Leader and Personality: Mr. Don, an out-of-towner who came in a few years back and managed to wrestle control of the organization along with a small group of enforcer. In many ways, Mr. Don like a lot of the old stereotypes of Easterners. He came into the region to make money and is known for being well dressed, smooth talking and in general a good operator.
Most used character and Personality Mr. White, the closet thing Mr. Don has to a second-in-command. Mr. White is Mr. Don's chief enforcer and the leader of the rest of the "color squad" as some call them. He is an older man and tends to deal with most situations calmly, though when the situations calls for it, he can be extremely ruthless.
Locations: New Vegas Strip
WIMPS
  • Wealth - 9 - Thanks to the natural attraction of the Casino and Mr. Don's improvements, the entire factions enjoys a steady stream of revenue from people from all over the region. Add in some "alternative revenue streams" that Don has taken an interest in, and you have a great deal of wealth flowing in
  • Influence - 5 - Gomorrah has a great deal of pull in the strip, but that quickly fizzles out the further you move away from the Casino.
  • Might - 3 - Gomorrah relies a lot more on soft power than hard power to push it's weight around. This means that aside from his group of enforcers, the Gomorrah largely lacks any kind of real muscle to back it up. This is balanced by the skill of Mr. Don's enforcers, but even then, it favors more covert actions than anything else. Though if needed, Mr. Don can call up other allies and mercenaries, their loyalty and capabilities leave a lot to be desired. Ultimately, it is not the type of organization that seeks out straight up fights.
  • Popularity - 5 - The casino is a popular enough place to visit and Mr. Don has a lot friends, but ultimately, due to it's reputation and business model, few people are ever openly supportive of it, however, they rarely come out against it either. Instead many take a neutral stance to Gomorrah
  • Secrecy - 8 - Few would be surprised at many of dealings of Gomorrah, but Mr. Don does a good job of keeping what exactly the Casino does behind closed doors, behind those doors. Likewise, few are sure of who Mr. Don and the rest of his color squad are with the only things known about them are that they came from the East and are very good at what they do (and no one knows all of what they do either).
Source of Income: Casino income, Business Investments, "Business Investments", Gun running,
Population: ~50 Casino workers, ~30 Enforcers
History: Mr. Don and friends were originally simply travelling through the area when the first met Mr. House. Mr. Don and Mr. House were able to strike a deal. In exchange for support from Mr. Don and his associates, Mr. House would allow them to set up shop in Vegas, provided they followed the rules and didn't cause too much trouble. Mr. Don was able to deliver on his end and was given his choice of available areas on the strip to make into his base of operations. Mr. Don choose what would become Gomorrah and spent a great deal of time building the casino up into a powerful force in the strip. Though largely uninterested in what goes on in the region, Mr. Don does keep himself well informed of much of the going-ons in the area, always looking for opportunities to make money and secure power.
RP Sample: Are We Evolving? By the same OP
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ralnis » Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:59 pm

Tayner wrote:
Plzen wrote:If my plan works remotely the way I intend it to, my troops will not be going anywhere near Hoover Dam. There are other ways of blowing up a dam besides the "let's attack the strongest garrison in the entire Mojave Desert" method.

It's not something I want to do anytime in the near future, nor is electricity a big priority right now, so I suppose we'll talk again later.

I too have a plan on how I would wreck the Dam if it comes down to it.

I would prefer to render it useless and impassable then let the legion capture it. Hell, even if the enclave do something that I can't allow happen, I'm taking out the Dam.


Just doom Vegas like that?
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Postby Tayner » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:00 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Tayner wrote:I too have a plan on how I would wreck the Dam if it comes down to it.

I would prefer to render it useless and impassable then let the legion capture it. Hell, even if the enclave do something that I can't allow happen, I'm taking out the Dam.


Just doom Vegas like that?

Vegas was doing fine before the dam was scouted out.
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Postby Ralnis » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:03 pm

Tayner wrote:
Ralnis wrote:
Just doom Vegas like that?

Vegas was doing fine before the dam was scouted out.

Vegas was without power and ruled by tribes, gangs, and god knows whatever had a gun. Taking out the Dam would would probably get at least Unity to rampage. The Enclave to go " cleansing", and probably the Legion still go a slaving.
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Postby North America Inc » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:04 pm

Tayner wrote:
Ralnis wrote:
Just doom Vegas like that?

Vegas was doing fine before the dam was scouted out.

Yes eating people is very cosmopolitan.

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Postby Shadowwell » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:04 pm

Tayner wrote:
Ralnis wrote:
Just doom Vegas like that?

Vegas was doing fine before the dam was scouted out.

All those tribals killing each other and everyone else, very fine.
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Postby Tayner » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:04 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Tayner wrote:Vegas was doing fine before the dam was scouted out.

Vegas was without power and ruled by tribes, gangs, and god knows whatever had a gun. Taking out the Dam would would probably get at least Unity to rampage. The Enclave to go " cleansing", and probably the Legion still go a slaving.

Well, if the legion takes the Dam, all that will happen anyways...
If anyone askes where we were Saturday at 14:30, we were at The Pub, understand?

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Postby Ralnis » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:10 pm

Tayner wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Vegas was without power and ruled by tribes, gangs, and god knows whatever had a gun. Taking out the Dam would would probably get at least Unity to rampage. The Enclave to go " cleansing", and probably the Legion still go a slaving.

Well, if the legion takes the Dam, all that will happen anyways...

And are you willing to protect Mojave form the other two factions?
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Postby North America Inc » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:10 pm

Bering wrote:
Bering wrote:
Faction Name: Gomorrah (though Mr. Don and friends call themselves "The Company")
Musical Theme: Never been my strong suit, suggestions would be appreciated
Leader and Personality: Mr. Don, an out-of-towner who came in a few years back and managed to wrestle control of the organization along with a small group of enforcer. In many ways, Mr. Don like a lot of the old stereotypes of Easterners. He came into the region to make money and is known for being well dressed, smooth talking and in general a good operator.
Most used character and Personality Mr. White, the closet thing Mr. Don has to a second-in-command. Mr. White is Mr. Don's chief enforcer and the leader of the rest of the "color squad" as some call them. He is an older man and tends to deal with most situations calmly, though when the situations calls for it, he can be extremely ruthless.
Locations: New Vegas Strip
WIMPS
  • Wealth - 9 - Thanks to the natural attraction of the Casino and Mr. Don's improvements, the entire factions enjoys a steady stream of revenue from people from all over the region. Add in some "alternative revenue streams" that Don has taken an interest in, and you have a great deal of wealth flowing in
  • Influence - 5 - Gomorrah has a great deal of pull in the strip, but that quickly fizzles out the further you move away from the Casino.
  • Might - 3 - Gomorrah relies a lot more on soft power than hard power to push it's weight around. This means that aside from his group of enforcers, the Gomorrah largely lacks any kind of real muscle to back it up. This is balanced by the skill of Mr. Don's enforcers, but even then, it favors more covert actions than anything else. Though if needed, Mr. Don can call up other allies and mercenaries, their loyalty and capabilities leave a lot to be desired. Ultimately, it is not the type of organization that seeks out straight up fights.
  • Popularity - 5 - The casino is a popular enough place to visit and Mr. Don has a lot friends, but ultimately, due to it's reputation and business model, few people are ever openly supportive of it, however, they rarely come out against it either. Instead many take a neutral stance to Gomorrah
  • Secrecy - 8 - Few would be surprised at many of dealings of Gomorrah, but Mr. Don does a good job of keeping what exactly the Casino does behind closed doors, behind those doors. Likewise, few are sure of who Mr. Don and the rest of his color squad are with the only things known about them are that they came from the East and are very good at what they do (and no one knows all of what they do either).
Source of Income: Casino income, Business Investments, "Business Investments", Gun running,
Population: ~50 Casino workers, ~30 Enforcers
History: Gomorrah was largely taken over by Mr. Don around 2070. Mr. Don and his cadre of enforcers had arrived a few years before then, but had kept their heads low until they made their move. They made a deal with Mr. House, in exchange for loyalty to him, they would be given a base of operations in the city of their choosing. For reasons only known to him and his enforcers, Mr. Don choose to make Gomorrah their base of operations and worked out a deal to take control of it. In some ways, this was a breath of fresh air for the establishment as it had largely been on the decline for the past fifty years with less revenue and increasingly incompetent, but well connected leaders. In the decade between the present and his seizing of power, Mr. Don has revitalized Gomorrah and even expanded the casino itself and his own reach into other business. Mr. Don is largely unconcerned with the events of surrounding the region, more concerned about making money and spreading his influence.
Goals: Survive, make money and spread our influence when possible
RP Sample: Are We Evolving? By the same OP

Pretty good except for two things:

Mr.Don what's next Mr.Stockbroker? Mr. CEO?

The Casino wasn't operating until House came.

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Postby Tayner » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:11 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Tayner wrote:Well, if the legion takes the Dam, all that will happen anyways...

And are you willing to protect Mojave form the other two factions?

Well, main focus is on the Legion, and if unity tries to attack, we'd send some support. The Enclave would probably be one of my allies.
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-There is nothing more satisfying to you then having the enemy shoot at you, and miss.
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:13 pm

Tayner wrote:I too have a plan on how I would wreck the Dam if it comes down to it.

I would prefer to render it useless and impassable then let the legion capture it. Hell, even if the enclave do something that I can't allow happen, I'm taking out the Dam.

Except the Desert Rangers don't have the resources or manpower to destroy Hoover Dam, so they aren't going to be able to execute their plan one way or another. I mean, really, they're wannabe cowboys in the middle of the desert who know nothing but how to shoot guns; they aren't going to be able to blow up Hoover Dam.

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Postby Ralnis » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:14 pm

Tayner wrote:
Ralnis wrote:And are you willing to protect Mojave form the other two factions?

Well, main focus is on the Legion, and if unity tries to attack, we'd send some support. The Enclave would probably be one of my allies.

Except your planning to blow up the Dam, something that is consider a prize to the Enclave.
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Postby North America Inc » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:15 pm

Been a while but in the yes man ending don't you shut down the dam?

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Postby Ralnis » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:16 pm

North America Inc wrote:Been a while but in the yes man ending don't you shut down the dam?

No, you take it over once the NCR do your job for you.
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Postby Tayner » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:17 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
Tayner wrote:I too have a plan on how I would wreck the Dam if it comes down to it.

I would prefer to render it useless and impassable then let the legion capture it. Hell, even if the enclave do something that I can't allow happen, I'm taking out the Dam.

Except the Desert Rangers don't have the resources or manpower to destroy Hoover Dam, so they aren't going to be able to execute their plan one way or another. I mean, really, they're wannabe cowboys in the middle of the desert who know nothing but how to shoot guns; they aren't going to be able to blow up Hoover Dam.

I didn't say the word "blow" followed by the word "up", did I?

Ralnis wrote:
Tayner wrote:Well, main focus is on the Legion, and if unity tries to attack, we'd send some support. The Enclave would probably be one of my allies.

Except your planning to blow up the Dam, something that is consider a prize to the Enclave.


Only if the legion capture it or the enclave does something aggressive.
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-No Combat Ready unit has ever passed inspection.
-No Inspection Ready unit has ever passed combat.
-There is nothing more satisfying to you then having the enemy shoot at you, and miss.
-Remember, your weapon was made by the lowest bidder.
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Postby North America Inc » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:24 pm

Ralnis wrote:
North America Inc wrote:Been a while but in the yes man ending don't you shut down the dam?

No, you take it over once the NCR do your job for you.

Looked it u, you deactivate the dams power output.

During the conversation you ask if you are suppose to blow up, and yes man says it's to big.

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Postby The Underground Movement Union » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:29 pm

Faction Name: Mojave Spartans
Musical Theme https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sXtHmnyA7hg
Leader and Personality: Joshua Hanson, Personality: Is somewhat quiet, calm, and is sympathetic. However, when it comes to fighting the Legion, he is very sadistic.
Most used character and Personality look above
Locations: Primm, Goodsprings and the NCR Correctional facility.
WIMPS
  • Wealth 6
    The MS' weapons trade is large, and they are frequently hired by caravans, however they also spend a decent amount of money obtaining weapons and gear, leaving them with a decent amount of money left.
  • Influence 7
    Having an active and exceptionally powerful military, a large weapons market, and having both Primm and Goodsprings under their protection gives them noticeable influence in the Mojave
  • Might 9
    With a vast arsenal, great leadership, an exceptional amount of training from soldiers with combat experience, and soldiers with some combat experience puts the MS in a excellent spot militarily.
  • Popularity 7
    The reason why they're popular is quite obvious. Despite the fact that they're a mercenary group, the MS does act a lot more like a military force or a police force for its community's.
  • Secrecy 1
    The MS really has no secrecy. The closest things they have to it would be their reconnaissance teams and stealth units.
Source of Income: through selling weapons and medical equipment & mercenary work.
Population: 975 soldiers and 120 traders.
History: The Mojave Spartans started as Exiles from Arizona who fled to the west of the Mojave. When news arrived about Legion attacks, people of the Mojave were frightened. The Exiles and a number of wastelanders agreed to create a mercenary corporation with a desire to defend the Mojave from invaders. At first, they were small and disorganized, but quickly expanded their military might and numbers and became very organized. They eventually started a business in selling weapons & medical equipment. Recently they were hired by Goodsprings and Primm for security purposes. For now, the Mojave Spartans promises neutrality with all factions unless they are provoked via attacks on the MS or the community's they are protecting.
Goals: To protect Mojave communities
RP Sample: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=349962
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