The year of our Lord 1200

[The Jonathanian States]

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=25604650#p25604650
WIP post is done. Another one will be up later today.

Nice post, as I said earlier.

I honestly don't think I agree, or that Venice would agree, to make Pisa proper part of the Genoese sphere. Their ports and possessions west of the Messina-Tripoli line I care not for, except for Pisa proper.
But as I assume you would dislike me acquiring such a base of operations in the Tyrhenian sea, I motion that after we defeat it in order to be able to enforce our partition it become part of a Florentine sphere, for them to do with as they consider right.

so we gonna destroy Pisa together then?

Aye.
You get their Italian land, Genoa all possessions west of the Messina-Tripoli(Libya)-Line, I take all possessions east of that line, except for the possessions within the Byzantine Empire which it will retake.

I'm pretty sure that beyond times of war mercenaries usually aren't kept as standing forces, because money. And there's a chance that the golden era of Florentine Money lending has not yet happened, I'm not a 100% sure on that.

I will change the mercenary thing, as for the money lending, it was not the golden age yet, but it is still pretty big business at the moment. Florence went through number of economic booms and busts thanks to an unstable political climate. At the moment, Florence makes most of its money through trade and wool, but money lending is still quite big (it became the massive after the introduction of the Florin)

I see.

so we gonna destroy Pisa together then?

You can help sure. Try and attack their home city while I attack their colonies in the west and Venice in the east.

Mhm.

You can help sure. Try and attack their home city while I attack their colonies in the west and Venice in the east.

Okay, you two should attack first, draw out their main force then I will advance on the city itself

Their main force is their fleet. But yes, it probably makes the most sense that we trigger the fleet being sent off and then you use that chance.

That all being said, we still have to reach that agreement ICly.
EDIT:
I made myself a banner for future posts and I'm debating which to use:
Option A:

Option B:

Option C:

What are your opinions?
/EDIT

[Elepis]

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=25604650#p25604650
WIP post is done. Another one will be up later today.

Nice post, as I said earlier.

so we gonna destroy Pisa together then?

Aye.
You get their Italian land, Genoa all possessions west of the Messina-Tripoli(Libya)-Line, I take all possessions east of that line, except for the possessions within the Byzantine Empire which it will retake.

I will change the mercenary thing, as for the money lending, it was not the golden age yet, but it is still pretty big business at the moment. Florence went through number of economic booms and busts thanks to an unstable political climate. At the moment, Florence makes most of its money through trade and wool, but money lending is still quite big (it became the massive after the introduction of the Florin)

I see.

You can help sure. Try and attack their home city while I attack their colonies in the west and Venice in the east.

Mhm.

Okay, you two should attack first, draw out their main force then I will advance on the city itself

Their main force is their fleet. But yes, it probably makes the most sense that we trigger the fleet being sent off and then you use that chance.

That all being said, we still have to reach that agreement ICly.
EDIT:
I made myself a banner for future posts and I'm debating which to use:
Option A:

Option B:

Option C:

What are your opinions?
/EDIT

I was going to send a request to Venice for help with Pisa in the post I am writing now, however as I am spending most of the running around Northern Germany it will take me another day at least to get that post up

also, I think C

[The Jonathanian States]

-snip-

I was going to send a request to Venice for help with Pisa in the post I am writing now, however as I am spending most of the running around Northern Germany it will take me another day at least to get that post up

also, I think C

Running around in Germany? Interesting, around where, if you don't mind me asking?

Also, I see.

[Elepis]

I was going to send a request to Venice for help with Pisa in the post I am writing now, however as I am spending most of the running around Northern Germany it will take me another day at least to get that post up

also, I think C

Running around in Germany? Interesting, around where, if you don't mind me asking?

Also, I see.

Hamburg

[The Jonathanian States]

Guys, I'm not the OP, but I think we should get time a bit more in sync.
I'll admit I'm a big part in breaking it, doing early january quite late, but the post above me is April and the one before that is February-March. All by three different people...

[Reatra]

Well flight got delayed. Finally landed. But now I have to spend the night in Atlanta before Jamaica.


Still haven't posted IC XD

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=25604650#p25604650
WIP post is done. Another one will be up later today.

Nice post, as I said earlier.

so we gonna destroy Pisa together then?

Aye.
You get their Italian land, Genoa all possessions west of the Messina-Tripoli(Libya)-Line, I take all possessions east of that line, except for the possessions within the Byzantine Empire which it will retake.

I will change the mercenary thing, as for the money lending, it was not the golden age yet, but it is still pretty big business at the moment. Florence went through number of economic booms and busts thanks to an unstable political climate. At the moment, Florence makes most of its money through trade and wool, but money lending is still quite big (it became the massive after the introduction of the Florin)

I see.

You can help sure. Try and attack their home city while I attack their colonies in the west and Venice in the east.

Mhm.

Okay, you two should attack first, draw out their main force then I will advance on the city itself

Their main force is their fleet. But yes, it probably makes the most sense that we trigger the fleet being sent off and then you use that chance.

That all being said, we still have to reach that agreement ICly.
EDIT:
I made myself a banner for future posts and I'm debating which to use:
Option A:

Option B:

Option C:

What are your opinions?
/EDIT

A, B and C are the garbage emblems of the Province of Veneto.

[The Jonathanian States]

Nice post, as I said earlier.

Aye.
You get their Italian land, Genoa all possessions west of the Messina-Tripoli(Libya)-Line, I take all possessions east of that line, except for the possessions within the Byzantine Empire which it will retake.

I see.

Mhm.

Their main force is their fleet. But yes, it probably makes the most sense that we trigger the fleet being sent off and then you use that chance.

That all being said, we still have to reach that agreement ICly.
EDIT:
I made myself a banner for future posts and I'm debating which to use:
Option A:
(Image)
Option B:
(Image)
Option C:
(Image)
What are your opinions?
/EDIT

A, B and C are the garbage emblems of the Province of Veneto.

What are you on about?
A is the color scheme and lion from the Republic's actual flag.
B and C indeed from Veneto, both the image and colors.
None of them are garbage though, I mean, obviously they aren't, since they aren't some different place that isn't Venetian.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

A, B and C are the garbage emblems of the Province of Veneto.

What are you on about?
A is the color scheme and lion from the Republic's actual flag.
B and C indeed from Veneto, both the image and colors.
None of them are garbage though, I mean, obviously they aren't, since they aren't some different place that isn't Venetian.

The Flag of Veneto is fugly is what I'm saying, A was the one I mean't as the good one.

[The Jonathanian States]

What are you on about?
A is the color scheme and lion from the Republic's actual flag.
B and C indeed from Veneto, both the image and colors.
None of them are garbage though, I mean, obviously they aren't, since they aren't some different place that isn't Venetian.

The Flag of Veneto is fugly is what I'm saying, A was the one I mean't as the good one.

I disagree, but to each his own.
Regardless, the placement of the comma made me think you thought all of them are garbage.
In that case, though, thanks for your input.

[Das Germane imperie]

Will the Italian Republics support my plans of campaigns in the Middle East? Transport my Armies with your ships and fill them with the riches of the Holy Land.

[The Jonathanian States]

Will the Italian Republics support my plans of campaigns in the Middle East? Transport my Armies with your ships and fill them with the riches of the Holy Land.

Didn't you earlier want to march down on Italy or something?
That being said, I definitely am interested. If I accept would depend on terms and stuff of course, but I am interested.

[Das Germane imperie]

Will the Italian Republics support my plans of campaigns in the Middle East? Transport my Armies with your ships and fill them with the riches of the Holy Land.

Didn't you earlier want to march down on Italy or something?
That being said, I definitely am interested. If I accept would depend on terms and stuff of course, but I am interested.

I said that if you were being "disobedient" and expand too much or something I might just do something like that. Maybe. But I have far more important issues than dealing with my 99.9% independent de-jure vassals. Except of Venice, you are somewhat not de-jure.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Didn't you earlier want to march down on Italy or something?
That being said, I definitely am interested. If I accept would depend on terms and stuff of course, but I am interested.

I said that if you were being "disobedient" and expand too much or something I might just do something like that. Maybe. But I have far more important issues than dealing with my 99.9% independent de-jure vassals. Except of Venice, you are somewhat not de-jure.

Not De facto, Venice is a completely independent country.

[Das Germane imperie]

I said that if you were being "disobedient" and expand too much or something I might just do something like that. Maybe. But I have far more important issues than dealing with my 99.9% independent de-jure vassals. Except of Venice, you are somewhat not de-jure.

Not De facto, Venice is a completely independent country.

With some territory within the borders of the HRE. That's some influence right there.

[The Nation of Hay]

Application
Nation Name: Ayyubid Sultanate
Population: ~8,000,000
Capital City: al-Qāhirah
Religion: Sunni Islam
Military: Standing army of 80,000 troops. However, a great deal of these soldiers are currently wrapped up fighting a civil war.
429

EDIT: Actually, the whole state of the Ayyubid Sultanate really depends on what month it is IC. It looks like currently it's springtime; if it is my civil war would be, for the most part, over.

[The Jonathanian States]

Didn't you earlier want to march down on Italy or something?
That being said, I definitely am interested. If I accept would depend on terms and stuff of course, but I am interested.

I said that if you were being "disobedient" and expand too much or something I might just do something like that. Maybe. But I have far more important issues than dealing with my 99.9% independent de-jure vassals. Except of Venice, you are somewhat not de-jure.

I believe I am fully sovereign de-jure. The last de-jure claim on my was Byzantine many aeons ago and probably independent and now dead states in Dalmatia.

Not De facto, Venice is a completely independent country.

With some territory within the borders of the HRE. That's some influence right there.

Not that I am aware of. This is 1200, not 1450.

Application
Nation Name: Ayyubid Sultanate
Population: ~8,000,000
Capital City: al-Qāhirah
Religion: Sunni Islam
Military: Standing army of 80,000 troops. However, a great deal of these soldiers are currently wrapped up fighting a civil war.
429

I am both happy and sad. I don't want a human Ayyubid, and yet it'll obviously mean things are more interesting.

[The Nation of Hay]

Application
Nation Name: Ayyubid Sultanate
Population: ~8,000,000
Capital City: al-Qāhirah
Religion: Sunni Islam
Military: Standing army of 80,000 troops. However, a great deal of these soldiers are currently wrapped up fighting a civil war.
429

I am both happy and sad. I don't want a human Ayyubid, and yet it'll obviously mean things are more interesting.

B)

[Das Germane imperie]

I said that if you were being "disobedient" and expand too much or something I might just do something like that. Maybe. But I have far more important issues than dealing with my 99.9% independent de-jure vassals. Except of Venice, you are somewhat not de-jure.

I believe I am fully sovereign de-jure. The last de-jure claim on my was Byzantine many aeons ago and probably independent and now dead states in Dalmatia.

With some territory within the borders of the HRE. That's some influence right there.

Not that I am aware of. This is 1200, not 1450.

Ah, well. That's good to know. Still, your Appenine Mainland areas have belonged to ze Reich. And Venice trades within the Empire's borders. But well, you might be completely independent. But possibly a friend.

[Das Germane imperie]

Application
Nation Name: Ayyubid Sultanate
Population: ~8,000,000
Capital City: al-Qāhirah
Religion: Sunni Islam
Military: Standing army of 80,000 troops. However, a great deal of these soldiers are currently wrapped up fighting a civil war.
429

EDIT: Actually, the whole state of the Ayyubid Sultanate really depends on what month it is IC. It looks like currently it's springtime; if it is my civil war would be, for the most part, over.

I might just send a Crusade your way. Or maybe somewhere else. Would save your infidel brothers in Anatolia? (Rüm)

[The Nation of Hay]

Application
Nation Name: Ayyubid Sultanate
Population: ~8,000,000
Capital City: al-Qāhirah
Religion: Sunni Islam
Military: Standing army of 80,000 troops. However, a great deal of these soldiers are currently wrapped up fighting a civil war.
429

EDIT: Actually, the whole state of the Ayyubid Sultanate really depends on what month it is IC. It looks like currently it's springtime; if it is my civil war would be, for the most part, over.

I might just send a Crusade your way. Or maybe somewhere else. Would save your infidel brothers in Anatolia? (Rüm)

Maybe, but not very likely. At the moment my treasury is dry, emptied out from two decades of continuous war, and I'm also looking at improving relations with the Crusader States and Merchant Republics of Europe.

[Liecthenbourg]

I might just send a Crusade your way. Or maybe somewhere else. Would save your infidel brothers in Anatolia? (Rüm)

Maybe, but not very likely. At the moment my treasury is dry, emptied out from two decades of continuous war, and I'm also looking at improving relations with the Crusader States and Merchant Republics of Europe.

DIE ISLAMIC SWINE

[The Nation of Hay]

Maybe, but not very likely. At the moment my treasury is dry, emptied out from two decades of continuous war, and I'm also looking at improving relations with the Crusader States and Merchant Republics of Europe.

DIE ISLAMIC SWINE

B)

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

What the fuck happened? I got shit faced yesterday, well my mates got shit faced. God damn shit quality rum and brandy.

[The Jonathanian States]

What the fuck happened? I got shit faced yesterday, well my mates got shit faced. God damn shit quality rum and brandy.

Err, some apps, some discussion (including about concessions and partitions), and some IC, the last of which actually seems to be on its way to get out of sync.