The year of our Lord 1200

[Liecthenbourg]

Obviously the Black Sea.

A Rus' lake.

Your Genovese friends can trade too, right?

GET OUT OF MY DARDENELLES

[Reatra]

Your Genovese friends can trade too, right?

GET OUT OF MY DARDENELLES

I mean. We have an agreement that I can trade with you and through your seas.

Some treaty from the 100s or something.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

GET OUT OF MY DARDENELLES

I mean. We have an agreement that I can trade with you and through your seas.

Some treaty from the 100s or something.

Operation Remove Pasta is a go

[Liecthenbourg]

I mean. We have an agreement that I can trade with you and through your seas.

Some treaty from the 100s or something.

Operation Remove Pasta is a go

Go my Varangian minion!

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Operation Remove Pasta is a go

Go my Varangian minion!

RAWR Pirogi STRONK!

[The Jonathanian States]

I mean. We have an agreement that I can trade with you and through your seas.

Some treaty from the 100s or something.

Operation Remove Pasta is a go

But isn't Venice Pasta too?

GET OUT OF MY DARDENELLES

I mean. We have an agreement that I can trade with you and through your seas.

Some treaty from the 100s or something.

Out of curiosity, you don't have it on hand, do you?

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Operation Remove Pasta is a go

But isn't Venice Pasta too?

I mean. We have an agreement that I can trade with you and through your seas.

Some treaty from the 100s or something.

Out of curiosity, you don't have it on hand, do you?

1. Venetian Lasagna is fine
2. The Treaty of Nymphaeum is the only one I see, from the 1261...

[PLESSUR]

But isn't Venice Pasta too?

Out of curiosity, you don't have it on hand, do you?

1. Venetian Lasagna is fine
2. The Treaty of Nymphaeum is the only one I see, from the 1261...

BTW your sig creeps me out. What is it all about??

[G-Tech Corporation]

1. Venetian Lasagna is fine
2. The Treaty of Nymphaeum is the only one I see, from the 1261...

BTW your sig creeps me out. What is it all about??

The truth.

But, yeah, better discussed via TG to prevent massive political debate.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

1. Venetian Lasagna is fine
2. The Treaty of Nymphaeum is the only one I see, from the 1261...

BTW your sig creeps me out. What is it all about??

I am not a fan of industrial abortion, like what Planned Parenthood does. If you accept a fetus is a human, then abortion is murder and the scale it is done on equates a genocide. However, this is neither the place nor the time to discuss this.

[Das Germane imperie]

Do we have a France yet?

[Elepis]

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[The Jonathanian States]

BTW your sig creeps me out. What is it all about??

The truth.

That's..... very debatable.

But, yeah, better discussed via TG to prevent massive political debate.

Indeed. Very indeed.

1. Venetian Lasagna is fine
2. The Treaty of Nymphaeum is the only one I see, from the 1261...

BTW your sig creeps me out. What is it all about??

It used to do the same for me before I researched it. Now it's just.... debatable.

But isn't Venice Pasta too?

Out of curiosity, you don't have it on hand, do you?

1. Venetian Lasagna is fine
2. The Treaty of Nymphaeum is the only one I see, from the 1261...

1. Mhm.
2. Right. But Reatra mentions something in the 100s though, which I doubt by the way, considering Venice only gained its shiny rights in 1082 and IIRC it was the first one to do so.

the scale it is done on equates a genocide.

I'm ignoring the rest because as you say rightly:

However, this is neither the place nor the time to discuss this.

Except for that one part of a sentence.

Genocide is the systematic elimination of all or a significant part of a racial, ethnic, religious, cultural or national group. Well-known examples of genocide include the Holocaust, the Armenian Genocide, 1971 Bangladesh Genocide, and more recently the Rwandan Genocide.

[jen-uh-sahyd]
noun
1.
the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.

genocide
noun geno·cide \ˈje-nə-ˌsīd\

: the deliberate killing of people who belong to a particular racial, political, or cultural group

Genocide refers to efforts to destroy a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group of people either entirely or a substantial portion thereof.

There are things that are opinion-based. Like Abortion.
And then there are things that are objectively, factually, and by all definitions wrong. Like calling something the "American Abortion Holocaust".

Can I change to Pisa?

Three reasons:
Florence was not that powerful at the time
I know more about Pisa than Florence
Pisa is powerful enough to matter but not powerful enough to damage the rp by inactivity

Application
Nation Name: Republic of Pisa
Population: 70,000
Capital City: Pisa
Religion: Catholicism
Military: As one of the four Maritime Republics, Pisa has a vast merchant fleet that can be utilised for war. It also has a standing fleet of 80 war galleys which the Tyrrhenian Sea and the waters around the Pisan colony of Sardinia. On land, Pisa is weaker. The city and port have small units Republican Guards numbering 1,500 to protect the Republic at short notice. Pisa can however call on its naval marines and given enough time, use its considerable wealth to summon mercenary armies to its cause.
429

Plz no. We have enough merchant republics as is, and there can only be one.

[Mairland]

ahem

[G-Tech Corporation]

Do we have a France yet?

Negatory.

Yay Florence!

[Reatra]

Can I change to Pisa?

Three reasons:
Florence was not that powerful at the time
I know more about Pisa than Florence
Pisa is powerful enough to matter but not powerful enough to damage the rp by inactivity

Application
Nation Name: Republic of Pisa
Population: 70,000
Capital City: Pisa
Religion: Catholicism
Military: As one of the four Maritime Republics, Pisa has a vast merchant fleet that can be utilised for war. It also has a standing fleet of 80 war galleys which the Tyrrhenian Sea and the waters around the Pisan colony of Sardinia. On land, Pisa is weaker. The city and port have small units Republican Guards numbering 1,500 to protect the Republic at short notice. Pisa can however call on its naval marines and given enough time, use its considerable wealth to summon mercenary armies to its cause.
429

Fuuuuuuuuuuck

[Elepis]

Can I change to Pisa?

Three reasons:
Florence was not that powerful at the time
I know more about Pisa than Florence
Pisa is powerful enough to matter but not powerful enough to damage the rp by inactivity

Application
Nation Name: Republic of Pisa
Population: 70,000
Capital City: Pisa
Religion: Catholicism
Military: As one of the four Maritime Republics, Pisa has a vast merchant fleet that can be utilised for war. It also has a standing fleet of 80 war galleys which the Tyrrhenian Sea and the waters around the Pisan colony of Sardinia. On land, Pisa is weaker. The city and port have small units Republican Guards numbering 1,500 to protect the Republic at short notice. Pisa can however call on its naval marines and given enough time, use its considerable wealth to summon mercenary armies to its cause.
429

Fuuuuuuuuuuck

Oh I shall stay as Florence then, Florence can in to near universal coinage

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Fuuuuuuuuuuck

Oh I shall stay as Florence then, Florence can in to near universal coinage

Just go Pisa, he just wants to lol and annex Pisa anyways.

[Elepis]

Oh I shall stay as Florence then, Florence can in to near universal coinage

Just go Pisa, he just wants to lol and annex Pisa anyways.

I'm away at present so I cannot do much, but Florence is fine, maybe something else when I get home

[Elepis]

Application
Nation Name: Republic of Florence, Repubblica Fiorentina
Population: 62,000
Capital City: Florence
Religion: Roman Catholicism
Military: Can anyone help me with this? One would assume mainly mercenary but does anyone know more?
429

Another Italian joins the rumble for the peninsula, eh?
That being said, you interested in forming out natural alliance against the Genoese?

Florence shall support whoever gives it supreme power in Tuscany

[Reatra]

Another Italian joins the rumble for the peninsula, eh?
That being said, you interested in forming out natural alliance against the Genoese?

Florence shall support whoever gives it supreme power in Tuscany

Which would be Genoa. Because imma kill Pisa

[The Jonathanian States]

Florence shall support whoever gives it supreme power in Tuscany

Which would be Genoa. Because imma kill Pisa

So will Venice, honhonhon. After Genoa, maybe, but sooner or later they and Amalfi must all be removed.

Another Italian joins the rumble for the peninsula, eh?
That being said, you interested in forming out natural alliance against the Genoese?

Florence shall support whoever gives it supreme power in Tuscany

Venice probably is your best bet. Also, a Veneto-Florentine alliance historically also became a thing.

[Das Germane imperie]

I'm asking the Pope to make Otto of York to renounce his claim to the Holy Roman Empire. I hope the Pope will do that, powerful friends are always good, right?

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

@Reatra, the only Genoa-Byzzie treaty I found is the Treaty of Nymphaeum from 1261

[PLESSUR]

I'm asking the Pope to make Otto of York to renounce his claim to the Holy Roman Empire. I hope the Pope will do that, powerful friends are always good, right?

How is Otto of York connected to the English crown, if he is?