The year of our Lord 1200

[Elepis]

could one be the Novgrod/Republic of Florence?

Yes

Righty ho, I am on holiday at the moment so I will not be able to post at my normal pace (I would still be able to post a decent post every 2-3 days however) so I would not feel comfortable being a very important nation.

So which, out of Novgrod and Florence, which do you think is the less important to the rp?

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

Yes

Righty ho, I am on holiday at the moment so I will not be able to post at my normal pace (I would still be able to post a decent post every 2-3 days however) so I would not feel comfortable being a very important nation.

So which, out of Novgrod and Florence, which do you think is the less important to the rp?

Florence, Novgorod is near me, Gtech, and Inesea that shit will get a lot of attention when we start our dick measuring contest.

[Elepis]

Righty ho, I am on holiday at the moment so I will not be able to post at my normal pace (I would still be able to post a decent post every 2-3 days however) so I would not feel comfortable being a very important nation.

So which, out of Novgrod and Florence, which do you think is the less important to the rp?

Florence, Novgorod is near me, Gtech, and Inesea that shit will get a lot of attention when we start our dick measuring contest.

Florence it is, I will get a wip app up in a minute

[Elepis]

Application
Nation Name: Republic of Florence, Repubblica Fiorentina
Population: 65,000
Capital City: Florence
Religion: Roman Catholicism
Military: As Pisa controls the Tucsan coastline, Florence has no naval power. To protect the City in peace time and at sort notice during war, the Republic keeps two standing forces, one thousand five hundred men-at-arms recruited from the Florentine populace and one thousand south German mercenaries. In times of war, Florence can raise a levy of the local population, armed with second grade weapons such as spears and axes. It can also, thanks to its wealth from money lending, trade and wool raise an army of mercenaries given enough time.
429[/b]

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

Application
Nation Name: Republic of Florence, Repubblica Fiorentina
Population: 30,000
Capital City: Florence
Religion: Roman Catholicism
Military: Can anyone help me with this? One would assume mainly mercenary but does anyone know more?
429

Republic of Florence, not the city of Florence.

[Elepis]

Application
Nation Name: Republic of Florence, Repubblica Fiorentina
Population: 30,000
Capital City: Florence
Religion: Roman Catholicism
Military: Can anyone help me with this? One would assume mainly mercenary but does anyone know more?
429

Republic of Florence, not the city of Florence.

are you referring to the pop?, if so I will change it to say, 62,000 as a lot of people would have lived in rural areas (the thing I was looking at was the city)

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

Application
Nation Name: Republic of Florence, Repubblica Fiorentina
Population: 62,000
Capital City: Florence
Religion: Roman Catholicism
Military: Can anyone help me with this? One would assume mainly mercenary but does anyone know more?
429

Accepted

[Finland SSR]

Righty ho, I am on holiday at the moment so I will not be able to post at my normal pace (I would still be able to post a decent post every 2-3 days however) so I would not feel comfortable being a very important nation.

So which, out of Novgrod and Florence, which do you think is the less important to the rp?

Florence, Novgorod is near me, Gtech, and Inesea that shit will get a lot of attention when we start our dick measuring contest.

/me is forgotten

* Finland is forgotten

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

Florence, Novgorod is near me, Gtech, and Inesea that shit will get a lot of attention when we start our dick measuring contest.

/me is forgotten

* Finland is forgotten

Lithuania is still a ways away...would you be interested in some Rusian land? Help kiev attack Volknicasy-Galcia not even going to try and write that shit,

[The Jonathanian States]

Application
Nation Name: Republic of Florence, Repubblica Fiorentina
Population: 62,000
Capital City: Florence
Religion: Roman Catholicism
Military: Can anyone help me with this? One would assume mainly mercenary but does anyone know more?
429

Another Italian joins the rumble for the peninsula, eh?
That being said, you interested in forming out natural alliance against the Genoese?

Application
Nation Name: Duchy of Lombardy
Population:
Capital City: Milan
Religion:Roman Catholicism
Military:
429
No bloody idea where I would find these, I do know Lombardy was the most populated place in Italy though.

accepted

Application
Nation Name: La Serenissima. Need I say more?
Population: About 100,000 inhabitants in the city of Venice. I have no idea of the rest, sadly.
Capital City: Definitely not Venice
Religion: Roman Catholicism.
Military: It's standing army, unless one considers its Marine Soldiers part of the army, is nearly non-existent. For longer conflicts on land Venice relies on mercenaries.
Venice seemed to have deployed 10,000 of its soldiers in 1202, so I'd assume it maybe has that amount once more in standing troops? It definitely had about 20,000 sailors and rowers for a fleet of 210 ships ?
It seems to have possessed a good 60 Great War galleys and an amount of smaller ones that I do not know and that is not included in those 210, which might not be fully accurate as it included civilian ships used in the Fourth crusade.
429

accepted

• Genoa - Check.
• Venice - Check.
• Lombardy - Check.
• Florence - On the way.

I can see it already, World War One is breaking out in Italy.

/me is forgotten

* Finland is forgotten

Lithuania is still a ways away...would you be interested in some Rusian land? Help kiev attack Volknicasy-Galcia not even going to try and write that shit,

Volhynia-Galicia?
I sort of may or may not be setting up a port there, so you better leave that port alone.

[Finland SSR]

/me is forgotten

* Finland is forgotten

Lithuania is still a ways away...would you be interested in some Rusian land? Help kiev attack Volknicasy-Galcia not even going to try and write that shit,

Not that far away though. Close enough to be relevant.

Hmm... pillaging and conquering Nessie-Land? Sounds good, so what's the catch?

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

I sort of may or may not be setting up a port there, so you better leave that port alone.

What did you say? I am hearing a distinct lack of gold getting put in my coffers by you.

[Narintia]

Application
Nation Name: Sultanate of Rum
Population: About 2 million
Capital City: Konya
Religion: Sunni Islam
Military: 30,000 men
429

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

Application
Nation Name: Sultanate of Rum
Population: About 10 million
Capital City: Konya
Religion: Sunni Islam
Military: 100,000 men
429

Why do I have a feeling that this is a puppet?

[Narintia]

I don't know why you feel that

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

I don't know why you feel that

Created 40 minutes ago. First post was this thread. The second post is not "What is a puppet?"

[Narintia]

You've figured out my master plan! nooo.

jk jk I'm not a alt, don't judge a book by its cover.

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

You've figured out my master plan! nooo.

jk jk I'm not a alt, don't judge a book by its cover.

So. Standard procedure when dealing with puppets.

Mate, git out and bring your real account.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Except that isn't anything by Harvard, rather it is a document published by two Professors of Economics who at a time, which I believe is the time that was published, both worked at the Toronto University.
So there's that.
The lowest reasonable count I find is 80,000, seen here, and I have to admit it seems damn credible.
But then I read something on the current demographics of Venice that made me think both are in fact true.
Today the Commune of Venice has 272,000 inhabitants. Of those 176,000 live on the terraferma and therefore aren't relevant for the population of Venice(the city, not republic) in 1200. The remaining 96,000 though are split amongst the city of Venice proper and the other islands of the lagoon Now here is where it gets interesting. The ratio of Venice proper to the rest of the lagoon today seems roughly to be 2:1. Which makes me think that the usage of 80,000 applies to Venice of the Six Sestieri while the additional 20,000 residents from my source in 1200 are supposed to be on the surrounding Islands in the Lagoon, beyond the inner city.

Yes, that's right. Your "pillage, slaughter and rape" package is looking very nice, by the way. I think I will opt for that specifically.

Edit: The "salt the earth" bonus package as well.

I see, yes. I the Salt the Earth package might be problematic due to Genoa Removers^TM's policy on territorial acquisitions, but the "pillage, slaughter, and rape" package is indeed available.

Application
Nation Name: Duchy of Lombardy
Population:
Capital City: Milan
Religion:Roman Catholicism
Military:
429
No bloody idea where I would find these, I do know Lombardy was the most populated place in Italy though.

Mhm.... what's your opinion on Genoa?
Also, you are wrong. Venice most likely was the third most populated city in (extended) europe, behind only Paris and Constantinople.
That being said, once you have your population your military can be devised from it.

1.)You probably have better sources then me, but i'll just state what I saw, Apparently in 1250 Milan had a population of 150,000.
2.) Genoa needs to be eaten

[Narintia]

Why the heck are you forcing me to ''reveal myself'' I just want to RP, wtf?

[Finland SSR]

Why the heck are you forcing me to ''reveal myself'' I just want to RP, wtf?

*thrusts cross*

JUDGMENT STRIKES YOU!


BEGONE, EVIL SPIRITS!

[Lunas Legion]

Emilo, was I accepted as Jerusalem or not?

[G-Tech Corporation]

Yes

Righty ho, I am on holiday at the moment so I will not be able to post at my normal pace (I would still be able to post a decent post every 2-3 days however) so I would not feel comfortable being a very important nation.

So which, out of Novgrod and Florence, which do you think is the less important to the rp?

Well, the Novgorod Republic is going to be on Vladimir's number three or four "To Annex" list. Florence would probably be better.

Why the heck are you forcing me to ''reveal myself'' I just want to RP, wtf?

You don't necessarily have to- in general terms though, puppets aren't allow in RPs to prevent multing. For instance, it wouldn't be reasonable for one person to, through two puppets, RP both the Sultunate of Rum and the Ayubbids.

So, if EA wants you to post with your main, that's really up to him, but it is fairly standard protocol.

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

Emilo, was I accepted as Jerusalem or not?

I thought I told you "good luck accepted"

[Lunas Legion]

Emilo, was I accepted as Jerusalem or not?

I thought I told you "good luck accepted"

I must've missed it.

And I'll need luck, especally since the Man with the Hat is looking west, not east.