The year of our Lord 1200

[The Jonathanian States]

What should the family names of my republican patriarchs be?

Dead.

honhonhonhon. But why have them be dead if they can instead all the the fine initials ED?

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

Emilio, the IC link isn't a link.

You trying to make us work for the IC? We have to copy and paste it now?

That's the trade off for shorter apps.

[The Jonathanian States]

Liecth, I was reading up on Venice looking for a suitable army size, and I stumbled upon the following:

Doge Domenico Selvo intervened in the war between the Normans of Apulia and the Byzantine Emperor Alexios I Komnenos in favour of the latter, obtaining in exchange a bull declaring the Venetian supremacy in the Adriatic coast up to Durazzo, as well as the exemption from taxes for his merchants in the whole Byzantine Empire, a considerable factor in the city-state's later accumulation of wealth and power serving as middlemen for the lucrative spice and silk trade that funnelled through the Levant and Egypt along the ancient Kingdom of Axum and Roman-Indian routes via the Red Sea.

The war was not a military success, but with that act the city gained total independence. In 1084, Domenico Selvo led a fleet against the Normans, but he was defeated and lost 9 great galleys, the largest and most heavily armed ships in the Venetian war fleet.[9]

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

What should the family names of my republican patriarchs be?

de Muertes

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

What should the family names of my republican patriarchs be?

de Muertes

di Muertes they are Italian after all.

[Reatra]

It's hard to go from RPing about absolute monarchs with thousands of concubines to a republican ruler who needs the permission of the council and only has one wife.

[Mesrane]

It's hard to go from RPing about absolute monarchs with thousands of concubines to a republican ruler who needs the permission of the council and only has one wife.

Heh.

Edit: Also the rest of Europe isn't irrationally pissing their pants over you this time around.

[Reatra]

It's hard to go from RPing about absolute monarchs with thousands of concubines to a republican ruler who needs the permission of the council and only has one wife.

Heh.

Edit: Also the rest of Europe isn't irrationally pissing their pants over you this time around.

That will soon change

[Mesrane]

Heh.

Edit: Also the rest of Europe isn't irrationally pissing their pants over you this time around.

That will soon change

Yes, but then the pants-pissing is actually rational, isn't it?

[Reatra]

That will soon change

Yes, but then the pants-pissing is actually rational, isn't it?

GLORIA A LA SUPERBA!

[Mesrane]

Yes, but then the pants-pissing is actually rational, isn't it?

GLORIA A LA SUPERBA!

*calls Venice*

I of havings Genoese infestation. Pls to remove.

[Liecthenbourg]

Yes, but then the pants-pissing is actually rational, isn't it?

GLORIA A LA SUPERBA!

*Gathers the Varangian Guard*
No. You will be eliminated.

[The Jonathanian States]

Application
Nation Name: La Serenissima. Need I say more?
Population: About 100,000 inhabitants in the city of Venice. I have no idea of the rest, sadly.
Capital City: Definitely not Venice
Religion: Roman Catholicism.
Military: It's standing army, unless one considers its Marine Soldiers part of the army, is nearly non-existent. For longer conflicts on land Venice relies on mercenaries.
Venice seemed to have deployed 10,000 of its soldiers in 1202, so I'd assume it maybe has that amount once more in standing troops? It definitely had about 20,000 sailors and rowers for a fleet of 210 ships ?
It seems to have possessed a good 60 Great War galleys and an amount of smaller ones that I do not know and that is not included in those 210, which might not be fully accurate as it included civilian ships used in the Fourth crusade.
429

GLORIA A LA SUPERBA!

*calls Venice*

I of havings Genoese infestation. Pls to remove.

This is 111-Genoa Removers.
I understand you have an issue with Genovese?

[Mesrane]

Application
Nation Name: La Serenissima. Need I say more?
Population: About 100,000 inhabitants in the city of Venice. I have no idea of the rest, sadly.
Capital City: Definitely not Venice
Religion: Roman Catholicism.
Military: It's standing army, unless one considers its Marine Soldiers part of the army, is nearly non-existent. For longer conflicts on land Venice relies on mercenaries.
Venice seemed to have deployed 10,000 of its soldiers in 1202, so I'd assume it maybe has that amount once more in standing troops? It definitely had about 20,000 sailors and rowers for a fleet of 210 ships ?
It seems to have possessed a good 60 Great War galleys and an amount of smaller ones that I do not know and that is not included in those 210, which might not be fully accurate as it included civilian ships used in the Fourth crusade.
429

*calls Venice*

I of havings Genoese infestation. Pls to remove.

This is 111-Genoa Removers.
I understand you have an issue with Genovese?

Yes, that's right. The mufugga thinks his city is cool. Frankly, it's unbearable.

[Reatra]

Wait, Venice didn't have 100,000 until the 1400s

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

GLORIA A LA SUPERBA!

*Gathers the Varangian Guard*
No. You will be eliminated.

EXTERMINATE

[Reatra]

Reatra: The Impirren of talking like he's important OOC when he really controls a trading backwater

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Reatra: The Impirren of talking like he's important OOC when he really controls a trading backwater

?

[Reatra]

Reatra: The Impirren of talking like he's important OOC when he really controls a trading backwater

?

It's what I am

[The Jonathanian States]

Application
Nation Name: La Serenissima. Need I say more?
Population: About 100,000 inhabitants in the city of Venice. I have no idea of the rest, sadly.
Capital City: Definitely not Venice
Religion: Roman Catholicism.
Military: It's standing army, unless one considers its Marine Soldiers part of the army, is nearly non-existent. For longer conflicts on land Venice relies on mercenaries.
Venice seemed to have deployed 10,000 of its soldiers in 1202, so I'd assume it maybe has that amount once more in standing troops? It definitely had about 20,000 sailors and rowers for a fleet of 210 ships ?
It seems to have possessed a good 60 Great War galleys and an amount of smaller ones that I do not know and that is not included in those 210, which might not be fully accurate as it included civilian ships used in the Fourth crusade.
429

This is 111-Genoa Removers.
I understand you have an issue with Genovese?

Yes, that's right. The mufugga thinks his city is cool. Frankly, it's unbearable.

Rightio, well, I'll have to check with the Grand Captain when exactly we are available but I assume you want us to sack and pillage it ASAP?

Wait, Venice didn't have 100,000 until the 1400s

I have a source in my hand that I am ready to scan and upload proving you wrong. I guess maybe something similar also is said somewhere online.

[Reatra]

Yes, that's right. The mufugga thinks his city is cool. Frankly, it's unbearable.

Rightio, well, I'll have to check with the Grand Captain when exactly we are available but I assume you want us to sack and pillage it ASAP?

Wait, Venice didn't have 100,000 until the 1400s

I have a source in my hand that I am ready to scan and upload proving you wrong. I guess maybe something similar also is said somewhere online.

Well Wikipedia says Venice had 85-100,000 in 1300... And that was before the plague. I know what isn't a good source but I don't think they wouldn't grow in population during the 1200s (arguable one of their best periods)

[Reatra]

And Harvard says Venice had 70,000 in 1200

[Liecthenbourg]

Rightio, well, I'll have to check with the Grand Captain when exactly we are available but I assume you want us to sack and pillage it ASAP?

I have a source in my hand that I am ready to scan and upload proving you wrong. I guess maybe something similar also is said somewhere online.

Well Wikipedia says Venice had 85-100,000 in 1300... And that was before the plague. I know what isn't a good source but I don't think they wouldn't grow in population during the 1200s (arguable one of their best periods)

Wikipedia lowballs for population - just like populstat highballs.
IIRC

[Mesrane]

Yes, that's right. The mufugga thinks his city is cool. Frankly, it's unbearable.

Rightio, well, I'll have to check with the Grand Captain when exactly we are available but I assume you want us to sack and pillage it ASAP?

Wait, Venice didn't have 100,000 until the 1400s

I have a source in my hand that I am ready to scan and upload proving you wrong. I guess maybe something similar also is said somewhere online.

Yes, that's right. Your "pillage, slaughter and rape" package is looking very nice, by the way. I think I will opt for that specifically.

Edit: The "salt the earth" bonus package as well.

[The Jonathanian States]

Rightio, well, I'll have to check with the Grand Captain when exactly we are available but I assume you want us to sack and pillage it ASAP?

I have a source in my hand that I am ready to scan and upload proving you wrong. I guess maybe something similar also is said somewhere online.

Well Wikipedia says Venice had 85-100,000 in 1300... And that was before the plague. I know what isn't a good source but I don't think they wouldn't grow in population during the 1200s (arguable one of their best periods)

Wikipedia also says 1300 - 180,000