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The Greater Dutch Republic
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Postby The Greater Dutch Republic » Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:50 pm

Empire of Gibraltar wrote:Okay question, should I make the Basque and Catalonians accept the Ultimatum, or no. I was going to have Catalonia accept it and Basque deny do to the reason that a Basque assassin attempted to kill the Iberian President, and they knew they would die if they accepted the ultimatum anyway.

Well I just killed your "President", so.
"Basque es Basque, Catalonia es Catalonian, Basque y Catalonia no es Español"
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Tracian Empire wrote: ... but I'm about to be executed by my teachers in school...

Rule 1. If they try to execute you, execute them back

Gyrenaica wrote:Just maybe I might not see any nukes I may or may not buy off the black market and may or may not know that I may or may not have the possible launch codes that may or may not exist for the nukes that may or may not exist.

Liecthenbourg wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Does anyone know the term 'invasion of red tape'?

Excessive Communist adhesive.

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Postby Zelent » Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:51 pm

The Greater Dutch Republic wrote:
Empire of Gibraltar wrote:Okay question, should I make the Basque and Catalonians accept the Ultimatum, or no. I was going to have Catalonia accept it and Basque deny do to the reason that a Basque assassin attempted to kill the Iberian President, and they knew they would die if they accepted the ultimatum anyway.

Well I just killed your "President", so.
"Basque es Basque, Catalonia es Catalonian, Basque y Catalonia no es Español"


Because thats not against the rules or anything.
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Postby The Greater Dutch Republic » Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:00 pm

Well, I didn't commit espionage. I didn't take any information, I just killed a couple of guys. And as for me knowing about the message, I don't. But I think I'd see Iberian soldiers moving dangerously close to the borders of Basque Country and Catalonia.
Australian Antarctica wrote:Sorry, I was Russian to be funny. Fine, I'll Finnish with them soon enough. Unless you are Hungary for more?

Conwy-shire wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote: ... but I'm about to be executed by my teachers in school...

Rule 1. If they try to execute you, execute them back

Gyrenaica wrote:Just maybe I might not see any nukes I may or may not buy off the black market and may or may not know that I may or may not have the possible launch codes that may or may not exist for the nukes that may or may not exist.

Liecthenbourg wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Does anyone know the term 'invasion of red tape'?

Excessive Communist adhesive.

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Postby Zelent » Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:37 pm

The Greater Dutch Republic wrote:Well, I didn't commit espionage. I didn't take any information, I just killed a couple of guys. And as for me knowing about the message, I don't. But I think I'd see Iberian soldiers moving dangerously close to the borders of Basque Country and Catalonia.


You assasinated their president without even letting them respond or anything, besides that assasin WAS in fact a basque not a dutch Spy. You dont just get to come in and be like

"h3 15 4c7u4lly 0n3 0f my 463n75, 1 w1ll p057 ju57 0n3 5h0r7 73rr1bly m4d3 p057 4nd 7h31r pr351d3n7 w1ll h4v3 70 b3 d34d."

As for Iberia, it seems completely retarded how their going.

"1 4m r34m1n6 my c0un7ry 100%, 50 w3 c4n w4r,w4r,w4r. 4l50, 50m3h0w my 3c0n0my 15 0n3 0f 7h3 l4r6357 1n 7h3 w0rld 3v3n 4f73r l051n6 20% 0f my p0pul4710n,bu1ld1n6 4 0v3r51z3d m1ll174ry 4nd 601n6 7hr0u6h 4 m4j0r 6l0b4l 3c0n0m1c cr1515."
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Postby The Greater Dutch Republic » Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:39 pm

Zelent wrote:
The Greater Dutch Republic wrote:Well, I didn't commit espionage. I didn't take any information, I just killed a couple of guys. And as for me knowing about the message, I don't. But I think I'd see Iberian soldiers moving dangerously close to the borders of Basque Country and Catalonia.


You assasinated their president without even letting them respond or anything, besides that assasin WAS in fact a basque not a dutch Spy. You dont just get to come in and be like

"h3 15 4c7u4lly 0n3 0f my 463n75, 1 w1ll p057 ju57 0n3 5h0r7 73rr1bly m4d3 p057 4nd 7h31r pr351d3n7 w1ll h4v3 70 b3 d34d."

As for Iberia, it seems completely retarded how their going.

"1 4m r34m1n6 my c0un7ry 100%, 50 w3 c4n w4r,w4r,w4r. 4l50, 50m3h0w my 3c0n0my 15 0n3 0f 7h3 l4r6357 1n 7h3 w0rld 3v3n 4f73r l051n6 20% 0f my p0pul4710n,bu1ld1n6 4 0v3r51z3d m1ll174ry 4nd 601n6 7hr0u6h 4 m4j0r 6l0b4l 3c0n0m1c cr1515."

No, I sent in my spy after the Basque guy attempted the assassination.
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Tracian Empire wrote: ... but I'm about to be executed by my teachers in school...

Rule 1. If they try to execute you, execute them back

Gyrenaica wrote:Just maybe I might not see any nukes I may or may not buy off the black market and may or may not know that I may or may not have the possible launch codes that may or may not exist for the nukes that may or may not exist.

Liecthenbourg wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Does anyone know the term 'invasion of red tape'?

Excessive Communist adhesive.

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Postby Zelent » Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:45 pm

The Greater Dutch Republic wrote:
Zelent wrote:
You assasinated their president without even letting them respond or anything, besides that assasin WAS in fact a basque not a dutch Spy. You dont just get to come in and be like

"h3 15 4c7u4lly 0n3 0f my 463n75, 1 w1ll p057 ju57 0n3 5h0r7 73rr1bly m4d3 p057 4nd 7h31r pr351d3n7 w1ll h4v3 70 b3 d34d."

As for Iberia, it seems completely retarded how their going.

"1 4m r34m1n6 my c0un7ry 100%, 50 w3 c4n w4r,w4r,w4r. 4l50, 50m3h0w my 3c0n0my 15 0n3 0f 7h3 l4r6357 1n 7h3 w0rld 3v3n 4f73r l051n6 20% 0f my p0pul4710n,bu1ld1n6 4 0v3r51z3d m1ll174ry 4nd 601n6 7hr0u6h 4 m4j0r 6l0b4l 3c0n0m1c cr1515."

No, I sent in my spy after the Basque guy attempted the assassination.

OH, because THAT fixes it all. Sure, sure this must have actually happened then.
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Postby New Rnclave » Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:46 pm

Dutch no assassinations.
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Postby The Greater Dutch Republic » Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:23 pm

New Rnclave wrote:Dutch no assassinations.

*grumbles, then gives up*
Well, i have to go to bed right now, I'll delete the post tonorrow. But I still want Iberia to piss off and stop buggering Basque and Catalonia.
Australian Antarctica wrote:Sorry, I was Russian to be funny. Fine, I'll Finnish with them soon enough. Unless you are Hungary for more?

Conwy-shire wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote: ... but I'm about to be executed by my teachers in school...

Rule 1. If they try to execute you, execute them back

Gyrenaica wrote:Just maybe I might not see any nukes I may or may not buy off the black market and may or may not know that I may or may not have the possible launch codes that may or may not exist for the nukes that may or may not exist.

Liecthenbourg wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Does anyone know the term 'invasion of red tape'?

Excessive Communist adhesive.

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Postby New Rnclave » Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:37 pm

The Greater Dutch Republic wrote:
New Rnclave wrote:Dutch no assassinations.

*grumbles, then gives up*
Well, i have to go to bed right now, I'll delete the post tonorrow. But I still want Iberia to piss off and stop buggering Basque and Catalonia.


Then start an embargo. You could assassinate him, but there needs to be diplomatic buildup, military threats and the likes
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Postby Plzen » Fri Aug 14, 2015 1:18 am

Uh... I'll forget Spain. Right now. Looks like I've bigger fish to fry.

I'll need to enlarge my army, big-time. Germany is being extremely aggressive.

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Postby The Greater Dutch Republic » Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:31 am

Plzen wrote:Uh... I'll forget Spain. Right now. Looks like I've bigger fish to fry.

I'll need to enlarge my army, big-time. Germany is being extremely aggressive.

We need to forge an alliance against Germany. They probably want our German-speaking Areas too.
Australian Antarctica wrote:Sorry, I was Russian to be funny. Fine, I'll Finnish with them soon enough. Unless you are Hungary for more?

Conwy-shire wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote: ... but I'm about to be executed by my teachers in school...

Rule 1. If they try to execute you, execute them back

Gyrenaica wrote:Just maybe I might not see any nukes I may or may not buy off the black market and may or may not know that I may or may not have the possible launch codes that may or may not exist for the nukes that may or may not exist.

Liecthenbourg wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Does anyone know the term 'invasion of red tape'?

Excessive Communist adhesive.

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Postby Plzen » Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:33 am

The Greater Dutch Republic wrote:
Plzen wrote:Uh... I'll forget Spain. Right now. Looks like I've bigger fish to fry.

I'll need to enlarge my army, big-time. Germany is being extremely aggressive.

We need to forge an alliance against Germany. They probably want our German-speaking Areas too.

That suddenly doesn't seem like a bad idea.

Not now, but I'll definitely keep it in mind. Between us two we can probably outmatch the German Army.

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Postby Zelent » Sat Aug 15, 2015 12:51 am

Shit just got real. Respond to it yall.
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Postby Plzen » Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:47 pm

Those of you with only one IC post really should make another.

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Postby Zelent » Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:48 pm

Plzen wrote:Those of you with only one IC post really should make another.

I agree 100%, say any thoughts on the peacekeeping mission in Austria?
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Postby Reatra » Sat Aug 15, 2015 7:22 pm

Oh drone thingys


That's Cali's thing.


I should finish off Sinaloa with them.
yee haw it's time for mass line

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Postby Plzen » Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:39 pm

Zelent wrote:
Plzen wrote:Those of you with only one IC post really should make another.

I agree 100%, say any thoughts on the peacekeeping mission in Austria?

It's annoying, but it's not like the Nordic Confederation can do anything about it.

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Postby Protector Galactics » Sat Aug 15, 2015 11:06 pm

Can I make a small scandal by claiming I have nukes? The Alaskan government will basically lie to the world and say that they have nukes when their in not a single one in development. I just want to start rising tensions. And get peoples attention on Alaska.
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Postby Zelent » Sat Aug 15, 2015 11:39 pm

Protector Galactics wrote:Can I make a small scandal by claiming I have nukes? The Alaskan government will basically lie to the world and say that they have nukes when their in not a single one in development. I just want to start rising tensions. And get peoples attention on Alaska.


I wouldnt do it like that. Have some cranky old professor in nuclear physics at some University say he was working on a secret project for the government but in reality hes just trying to get people to buy his book or something. It makes very little sense for a government in the modern era to bluff like that.
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Postby UED » Sun Aug 16, 2015 1:11 am

Generic Info
Nation Name: The Joseon-Nippon Union (Korean-Japanese Union)
Symbols: Image
Homeland Population: 270 million citizens
Imperial Population: 430 million citizens
Location/Claims: Korean Peninsula, Japan, Senkaku Islands, Sakhalin Islands, Kuril Islands, Chinese Manchuria, Russian Manchuria.
Capital City: Two Capitals, Seoul and Tokyo.

Government Info
Government Type: Dual Governments. Korean government is Presidential democracy with elections every 5 years. Japan is a parliamentary constitutional monarchy. There is also a Joseon-Nippon Council that ultimately decides many issues the Union has. [/i])
Brief Explanation of Government: The Korean Congress and Japanese Diet control their respective nation's domestic, social, immigration and educational issues. The Joseon-Nippon Council (referred to as the Unionist Council) is in charge of military, foreign, environmental, science, and economic issues. Neither side can overrule the other. The Unionist Council has a fixed amount of members. It has 12 Korean members and 12 Japanese members. The issue of a 12 v 12 stalemate never occurs because the Koreans and Japanese council members never agree on racial lines (if domestic or social issues were brought up, that would be a different matter).
Ideology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_liberalism)
Leader/s: Union Council Head Park Sang Jung.

Population Info
Brief Description of your people: There are 110 million Koreans and 160 million Japanese in the Joseon-Nippon Union. There are also 110 million Chinese and the rest are Russian. The Koreans and Japanese are hardworking and industrious people who hold great hate towards the Chinese due to the Sino-Asian War.
Religion: Most Koreans are either Catholic (23%), Protestant (31%) or Buddhist (36%). The Japanese are 89% Shinto Buddhists with a small Christian minority (4%). The Chinese and Russians are mostly atheists.
Ethnicity: The major groups are Koreans, Chinese, Russians and Japanese.
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Korean and Japanese.
Other Cultures: Chinese, Russian.

Economy
GDP Expectation as of 2055: 13 trillion USD
[b]Main Exports: /b] Electronics, medicine, Pop Culture, automobiles, semiconductors.
[b]Main Imports:
Food, raw materials, oil, electronics, automobiles.
Other information: Despite the massive damage North Korea suffered in the Sino-Asian war, South Korea and Japan managed to get off somewhat intact. The Chinese invasion utterly destroyed what little North Korea had, while Seoul was heavily damaged and much of Japan's coastal cities raided by Chinese submarine barrages. However after 20 years of rebuilding, The Union is once again a dynamic economic powerhouse.

Military Info
Army: There are three Army branches,the Unionist Army, the Joseon/Nippon/Manchurian Militias, and the Unionist Mech Corps. The Unionist Army is at the moment 2.4 million strong (for active soldiers). Conscription is enforced for all males 18-29. Reservists (Former troops, 30-45) number around 17 million. The Chinese and Russians are barred from the Unionist military, though they are allowed into the Manchurian militias. The Unionist Army is well equipped and well trained. The Unionist soldiers are trained from high school (age 15 or 16) and receive brutal training during their two year service. Unionist soldiers are determined and disciplined, a truly frightening fighting force. The Joseon Militia numbers around 13.4 million (age groups 15-17, 46-65). The Nippon Militia numbers around 14.6 million (Age groups 16-17, 46-59) and the Manchurian Militias number around 18 million strong (age groups 16-66). The Joseon and Nippon militias are some equipped with mediocre weapons (outdated weapons that are 10 years behind up to date weapons) but many of the older members of the militia can effectively utilize the weapons. These men and women are mostly conscripts to use when a war goes bad (or for limited defense) and most will never fight if the war doesn't come to their home town. They are strongly motivated and experienced (from the Sino-Asian War, except for the teenagers). The Manchurians on the other hand are armed with weapons that are centuries old (Ak-47, AK-74, M-16.) The Manchurians are politically unreliable and are used mainly as token troops. They have low morale but if utilized correctly can be effective stop gauges. They are in the end though, nothing more than cannon fodder, something which they resent. The Unionist Mech Corps composes of roughly 13,000 tanks (its numbers are part of Unionist Army). The Mech Corps has very advanced tanks.

Navy: Three branches compose the Unionist Navy, the Unionist Navy itself, the Unionist Coastal Guards and the Unionist Marine Corps. The Unionist Navy has roughly two hundred ships of various qualities (mostly advanced). It has 7 aircraft carriers and dozens of crusiers and battleships. The Unionist Navy has roughly 1.7 million members. The Unionist Coastal Guard has thousands of patrol boats used to pick up illegal immigrants or spies. They have roughly 1.1 million members. They are moderately armed. The Unionist Marine Corps is 200,000 strong, they are the elite of the Regular Armed Forces. These men and women are the elite of the Union, with the strongest weapons in the Union's possession in their grasp.

(Before someone screams OVERKILL, please note that the actual active size of the Union Army is 4.6 million (500,000 air force) out of the 270 million Koreans and Japanese. The militias will not fight or be conscripted unless the Union army loses too many soldiers or the war comes to them, All civilians are military trained (and still hold training exercises every sunday) but most of the 46 million militia men will not fight unless the war comes to them. They will probably do factory work or etc. The paramilitary forces (coast Guard) are only part-time and will almost certainly never really fight except in desperate battles or skirmishes.

Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: The Union economy is mostly technology based as Pre-Collapse Korea and Japan were. The North Koreans (who are still poorer than their Southern counterparts) alongside the Chinese and the Russians provide the labour pool Korea and Japan needs to exploit to create an effective economy.
Goals: Maintain control over Manchuria. Prevent a resurgent China from threatening the Union. Expand into the Pacific and Siberia.
History: Following the start of the Sino-Asian War in 2023 when China declared war on Vietnam, Mongolia, Thailand, South Korea, and Taiwan for collectively denying China's request for military installations on their lands, the Republic of Korea and the Empire of Japan, still bitter allies due to World War Two, decided that an alliance was required to defeat the larger menace. China. The People's Republic of China went on to swiftly overrun Mongolia while Laos and Cambodia decided to declare allegiance towards China. The PRC forces invaded Taiwan in the Spring of 2024 and managed to annihilate Taiwanese Forces by Early August of 2024. Thailand and Vietnam invaded Cambodia and Laos with the support of Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore, all of them fearful of a potential Chinese hegemony. North Korea remained neutral, pondering on obeying China or siding with its racial brothers, the South Koreans.

By the summer of 2025, Chinese victory seemed imminent. Vietnam had been completely conquered, Laos and Cambodia retaken, Thailand was being invaded and the only potential major powers that China considered threatening (India and Russia) in the region had not intervened. With 24 million soldiers in Indochina, the opposition towards China seemed defeated. The Chinese leadership now demand that Japan turn over Senkaku to China while ordering South Korea to stand down before it was invaded. The Japanese declared war against the Chinese and with the South Koreans managed to mobilize a massive fleet. China, not willing to push North Korea to the edge (it feared NK's nuclear weapons and insane dictator), decided to send the bulk of its fleet to fight at Senkaku. In the Battle of the Senkaku Islands in winter of 2025, the greater whole of the Chinese fleet was destroyed alongside its air force due to a combined Korean-Japanese effort. The Chinese, enraged by this massive blunder, mobilized 30 million men in the army to invade Korea by land. North Korea still refused to bulge, and so the Chinese in their rage invade North Korea to raze South Korea. The South Koreans rallied 4 million troops with 1.5 million Japanese allies. North Korea mobilized 3 million men and 10 million militiamen to fight the Chinese. Despite heavy resistance, North Korea was lost to China, with Pyongyang falling on March 25th, 2026. The Koreans and Japanese mounted a desperate defense at the DMZ to bleed the Chinese out, but by May 3rd, Seoul was the frontline of the war. Seoul was completely evacuated while the Koreans and Japanese fought to the bitter end. By September 7th, Seoul had fallen. However the North Korean people initiated new uprisings in the occupied territories and therefore distrupted logistics, which proved fatal to the PRC forces. The Korean counterattack drove the Chinese back and annihilated the PRC's forces by Jan of 2028. Out of the 30 million Chinese soldiers, only 4 million were left to straggle back into Manchuria. There the Koreans and Japanese launched a brutal attack, overrunning Southern Manchuria by the June of the year. Meanwhile, the Vietnamese (soon joined by the Thais who were overwhelmed) launched a brutal insurgency that managed to resemble the Vietnam War again and millions of Chinese were dead from insurgents or disease. The Muslims in Northwestern China and the Tibetans also unleashed revolutions in a desperate attempt to free themselves while democratic protests against the war started to flare up. Following the 2028 coup, China signed away Southern Manchuria and evacuated from Indochina due to mounting losses (by 2028, the 6th year of the war, over 30 million Chinese soldiers were dead,with 100 million more wounded and 10 million captured) and the civil war against the democrats who had managed to wrestle away Hong Kong, Shanghai and Tianjin. Despite this victory, war came at the horrible cost. 15 million Koreans dead, while the Japanese had 2 million dead. The population would only be saved due to the massive baby boom that would follow the war.

The Union itself was established in 2032 after the Koreans and Japanese realized that China had recapture Tibet and Xinjiang, meaning that China was now re-stabilized and once again a major threat. The Union went on to recover and reached Pre-War levels by 2040. However in 2043, the Union, in an effort to show off its power against the resurgent China, managed to fake an incident where Russians "allegedly" attacked Japanese soldiers in Manchuria and allowed the Union to invade Russia. Russia, weakened by its war against NATO, was easily defeated by 2045, with it seceding Russian Manchuria and some islands...

Special Factors: Strong education system, militarized society, Racism (lol), industrialized society, high technology.
Code Word: 2055?
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Postby Plzen » Sun Aug 16, 2015 1:39 am

The above application just seems weird.

Korea + Japan will be lucky to have 200 million population in 2055, forget 270.

13 trillion GDP by 2050 means 2%+ growth per year 2015-2055. That's just ridiculous and absurd for two countries with just about zero energy self-sufficiency, fought a devastating war against China, and ticked off a German puppet to boot. 5~6 trillion sounds more reasonable.

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Postby Zelent » Sun Aug 16, 2015 1:49 am

Plzen wrote:The above application just seems weird.

Korea + Japan will be lucky to have 200 million population in 2055, forget 270.

13 trillion GDP by 2050 means 2%+ growth per year 2015-2055. That's just ridiculous and absurd for two countries with just about zero energy self-sufficiency, fought a devastating war against China, and ticked off a German puppet to boot. 5~6 trillion sounds more reasonable.


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Postby Sanabel » Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:20 am

Hey guys!

I'm back! What's up?
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Postby New Rnclave » Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:21 am

Sanabel wrote:Hey guys!

I'm back! What's up?


Nothin' much :p
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Postby Sanabel » Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:22 am

UED wrote:
Generic Info
Nation Name: The Joseon-Nippon Union (Korean-Japanese Union)
Symbols: (Image)
Homeland Population: 270 million citizens
Imperial Population: 430 million citizens
Location/Claims: Korean Peninsula, Japan, Senkaku Islands, Sakhalin Islands, Kuril Islands, Chinese Manchuria, Russian Manchuria.
Capital City: Two Capitals, Seoul and Tokyo.

Government Info
Government Type: Dual Governments. Korean government is Presidential democracy with elections every 5 years. Japan is a parliamentary constitutional monarchy. There is also a Joseon-Nippon Council that ultimately decides many issues the Union has. [/i])
Brief Explanation of Government: The Korean Congress and Japanese Diet control their respective nation's domestic, social, immigration and educational issues. The Joseon-Nippon Council (referred to as the Unionist Council) is in charge of military, foreign, environmental, science, and economic issues. Neither side can overrule the other. The Unionist Council has a fixed amount of members. It has 12 Korean members and 12 Japanese members. The issue of a 12 v 12 stalemate never occurs because the Koreans and Japanese council members never agree on racial lines (if domestic or social issues were brought up, that would be a different matter).
Ideology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_liberalism)
Leader/s: Union Council Head Park Sang Jung.

Population Info
Brief Description of your people: There are 110 million Koreans and 160 million Japanese in the Joseon-Nippon Union. There are also 110 million Chinese and the rest are Russian. The Koreans and Japanese are hardworking and industrious people who hold great hate towards the Chinese due to the Sino-Asian War.
Religion: Most Koreans are either Catholic (23%), Protestant (31%) or Buddhist (36%). The Japanese are 89% Shinto Buddhists with a small Christian minority (4%). The Chinese and Russians are mostly atheists.
Ethnicity: The major groups are Koreans, Chinese, Russians and Japanese.
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Korean and Japanese.
Other Cultures: Chinese, Russian.

Economy
GDP Expectation as of 2055: 13 trillion USD
[b]Main Exports: /b] Electronics, medicine, Pop Culture, automobiles, semiconductors.
[b]Main Imports:
Food, raw materials, oil, electronics, automobiles.
Other information: Despite the massive damage North Korea suffered in the Sino-Asian war, South Korea and Japan managed to get off somewhat intact. The Chinese invasion utterly destroyed what little North Korea had, while Seoul was heavily damaged and much of Japan's coastal cities raided by Chinese submarine barrages. However after 20 years of rebuilding, The Union is once again a dynamic economic powerhouse.

Military Info
Army: There are three Army branches,the Unionist Army, the Joseon/Nippon/Manchurian Militias, and the Unionist Mech Corps. The Unionist Army is at the moment 2.4 million strong (for active soldiers). Conscription is enforced for all males 18-29. Reservists (Former troops, 30-45) number around 17 million. The Chinese and Russians are barred from the Unionist military, though they are allowed into the Manchurian militias. The Unionist Army is well equipped and well trained. The Unionist soldiers are trained from high school (age 15 or 16) and receive brutal training during their two year service. Unionist soldiers are determined and disciplined, a truly frightening fighting force. The Joseon Militia numbers around 13.4 million (age groups 15-17, 46-65). The Nippon Militia numbers around 14.6 million (Age groups 16-17, 46-59) and the Manchurian Militias number around 18 million strong (age groups 16-66). The Joseon and Nippon militias are some equipped with mediocre weapons (outdated weapons that are 10 years behind up to date weapons) but many of the older members of the militia can effectively utilize the weapons. These men and women are mostly conscripts to use when a war goes bad (or for limited defense) and most will never fight if the war doesn't come to their home town. They are strongly motivated and experienced (from the Sino-Asian War, except for the teenagers). The Manchurians on the other hand are armed with weapons that are centuries old (Ak-47, AK-74, M-16.) The Manchurians are politically unreliable and are used mainly as token troops. They have low morale but if utilized correctly can be effective stop gauges. They are in the end though, nothing more than cannon fodder, something which they resent. The Unionist Mech Corps composes of roughly 13,000 tanks (its numbers are part of Unionist Army). The Mech Corps has very advanced tanks.

Navy: Three branches compose the Unionist Navy, the Unionist Navy itself, the Unionist Coastal Guards and the Unionist Marine Corps. The Unionist Navy has roughly two hundred ships of various qualities (mostly advanced). It has 7 aircraft carriers and dozens of crusiers and battleships. The Unionist Navy has roughly 1.7 million members. The Unionist Coastal Guard has thousands of patrol boats used to pick up illegal immigrants or spies. They have roughly 1.1 million members. They are moderately armed. The Unionist Marine Corps is 200,000 strong, they are the elite of the Regular Armed Forces. These men and women are the elite of the Union, with the strongest weapons in the Union's possession in their grasp.

(Before someone screams OVERKILL, please note that the actual active size of the Union Army is 4.6 million (500,000 air force) out of the 270 million Koreans and Japanese. The militias will not fight or be conscripted unless the Union army loses too many soldiers or the war comes to them, All civilians are military trained (and still hold training exercises every sunday) but most of the 46 million militia men will not fight unless the war comes to them. They will probably do factory work or etc. The paramilitary forces (coast Guard) are only part-time and will almost certainly never really fight except in desperate battles or skirmishes.

Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: The Union economy is mostly technology based as Pre-Collapse Korea and Japan were. The North Koreans (who are still poorer than their Southern counterparts) alongside the Chinese and the Russians provide the labour pool Korea and Japan needs to exploit to create an effective economy.
Goals: Maintain control over Manchuria. Prevent a resurgent China from threatening the Union. Expand into the Pacific and Siberia.
History: Following the start of the Sino-Asian War in 2023 when China declared war on Vietnam, Mongolia, Thailand, South Korea, and Taiwan for collectively denying China's request for military installations on their lands, the Republic of Korea and the Empire of Japan, still bitter allies due to World War Two, decided that an alliance was required to defeat the larger menace. China. The People's Republic of China went on to swiftly overrun Mongolia while Laos and Cambodia decided to declare allegiance towards China. The PRC forces invaded Taiwan in the Spring of 2024 and managed to annihilate Taiwanese Forces by Early August of 2024. Thailand and Vietnam invaded Cambodia and Laos with the support of Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore, all of them fearful of a potential Chinese hegemony. North Korea remained neutral, pondering on obeying China or siding with its racial brothers, the South Koreans.

By the summer of 2025, Chinese victory seemed imminent. Vietnam had been completely conquered, Laos and Cambodia retaken, Thailand was being invaded and the only potential major powers that China considered threatening (India and Russia) in the region had not intervened. With 24 million soldiers in Indochina, the opposition towards China seemed defeated. The Chinese leadership now demand that Japan turn over Senkaku to China while ordering South Korea to stand down before it was invaded. The Japanese declared war against the Chinese and with the South Koreans managed to mobilize a massive fleet. China, not willing to push North Korea to the edge (it feared NK's nuclear weapons and insane dictator), decided to send the bulk of its fleet to fight at Senkaku. In the Battle of the Senkaku Islands in winter of 2025, the greater whole of the Chinese fleet was destroyed alongside its air force due to a combined Korean-Japanese effort. The Chinese, enraged by this massive blunder, mobilized 30 million men in the army to invade Korea by land. North Korea still refused to bulge, and so the Chinese in their rage invade North Korea to raze South Korea. The South Koreans rallied 4 million troops with 1.5 million Japanese allies. North Korea mobilized 3 million men and 10 million militiamen to fight the Chinese. Despite heavy resistance, North Korea was lost to China, with Pyongyang falling on March 25th, 2026. The Koreans and Japanese mounted a desperate defense at the DMZ to bleed the Chinese out, but by May 3rd, Seoul was the frontline of the war. Seoul was completely evacuated while the Koreans and Japanese fought to the bitter end. By September 7th, Seoul had fallen. However the North Korean people initiated new uprisings in the occupied territories and therefore distrupted logistics, which proved fatal to the PRC forces. The Korean counterattack drove the Chinese back and annihilated the PRC's forces by Jan of 2028. Out of the 30 million Chinese soldiers, only 4 million were left to straggle back into Manchuria. There the Koreans and Japanese launched a brutal attack, overrunning Southern Manchuria by the June of the year. Meanwhile, the Vietnamese (soon joined by the Thais who were overwhelmed) launched a brutal insurgency that managed to resemble the Vietnam War again and millions of Chinese were dead from insurgents or disease. The Muslims in Northwestern China and the Tibetans also unleashed revolutions in a desperate attempt to free themselves while democratic protests against the war started to flare up. Following the 2028 coup, China signed away Southern Manchuria and evacuated from Indochina due to mounting losses (by 2028, the 6th year of the war, over 30 million Chinese soldiers were dead,with 100 million more wounded and 10 million captured) and the civil war against the democrats who had managed to wrestle away Hong Kong, Shanghai and Tianjin. Despite this victory, war came at the horrible cost. 15 million Koreans dead, while the Japanese had 2 million dead. The population would only be saved due to the massive baby boom that would follow the war.

The Union itself was established in 2032 after the Koreans and Japanese realized that China had recapture Tibet and Xinjiang, meaning that China was now re-stabilized and once again a major threat. The Union went on to recover and reached Pre-War levels by 2040. However in 2043, the Union, in an effort to show off its power against the resurgent China, managed to fake an incident where Russians "allegedly" attacked Japanese soldiers in Manchuria and allowed the Union to invade Russia. Russia, weakened by its war against NATO, was easily defeated by 2045, with it seceding Russian Manchuria and some islands...

Special Factors: Strong education system, militarized society, Racism (lol), industrialized society, high technology.
Code Word: 2055?
RP Sample: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... 1&t=330553
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Dude.

I own:

Russian Manchuria, Sakhalin, and Kuril.
The interregnum is over- I am once again the OP of the Land of the Free RP


I am a Radical Centro-Transhumanist and a National Globalist.
If you don't have a high enough IQ to know what those are, then we can't be friends.

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