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Second Helghan Empire
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Postby Second Helghan Empire » Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:59 pm

Rnclave since a lot of people are doing space things would it be reasonable for latin federation to have a small station with around 12-20 people on board? It would be mostly just a symbol to the people to show what they can do together. I thought i should ask you before putting that in my app.
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Postby New Rnclave » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:04 pm

Second Helghan Empire wrote:Rnclave since a lot of people are doing space things would it be reasonable for latin federation to have a small station with around 12-20 people on board? It would be mostly just a symbol to the people to show what they can do together. I thought i should ask you before putting that in my app.


No, we've discussed this, your nation is wicked unstable, and Holland, and several nations at building a starship, only the major powers can do it not their own
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Postby Plzen » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:27 pm

Seriously, OP, California is richer than Germany right now. You did read their apps, right?

If Germany and their $7 trillion economy can pull a viable space program off, why can't California and its $8.9 trillion economy?

(hint, hint: you should reduce California's GDP)

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Postby New Rnclave » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:29 pm

Plzen wrote:Seriously, OP, California is richer than Germany right now. You did read their apps, right?

If Germany and their $7 trillion economy can pull a viable space program off, why can't California and its $8.9 trillion economy?

(hint, hint: you should reduce California's GDP)


That's what ive been trying to do. California should still be battered
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Sanabel
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Postby Sanabel » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:33 pm

New Rnclave wrote:
Plzen wrote:Seriously, OP, California is richer than Germany right now. You did read their apps, right?

If Germany and their $7 trillion economy can pull a viable space program off, why can't California and its $8.9 trillion economy?

(hint, hint: you should reduce California's GDP)


That's what ive been trying to do. California should still be battered

Where do they even get water?
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Postby Plzen » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:36 pm

Sanabel wrote:Where do they even get water?

Desalination, I'm guessing. California is bright enough for decent-ish solar power, which they can then use for seawater desalination.

Of course, solar power => seawater desalination is ridiculously expensive, but I don't see a viable alternative that they can pull off.

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Postby Second Helghan Empire » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:46 pm

New Rnclave wrote:
Second Helghan Empire wrote:Rnclave since a lot of people are doing space things would it be reasonable for latin federation to have a small station with around 12-20 people on board? It would be mostly just a symbol to the people to show what they can do together. I thought i should ask you before putting that in my app.


No, we've discussed this, your nation is wicked unstable, and Holland, and several nations at building a starship, only the major powers can do it not their own


Alright i have no space program at all?
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Sanabel
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Postby Sanabel » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:47 pm

Guys, I'm leaving for a trip tomorrow to Colorado. I will have no wifi or cell until Monday. See you all then!
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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:52 pm

Plzen wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Where do they even get water?

Desalination, I'm guessing. California is bright enough for decent-ish solar power, which they can then use for seawater desalination.

Of course, solar power => seawater desalination is ridiculously expensive, but I don't see a viable alternative that they can pull off.

And nuclear and wind power.


Basically the reason Cali survived better than most countries is that they started on fiend own early. The USA basically said "fuck you" and let them take care of their own problems in the 2020s. By the time their GLORIOUS LEADER PRESIDENT FOR LIFE fixed the drought problems (socialism, rapid nuclear power plant building, cover the Mojave in panels, vertical farms and rail systems instead of cars) the USA was too battered by riots to get them back. Now Cali didn't simply sail out of the depression, but they were smart and their super-rich president basically spent the vast majority of his funds to make California better.
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Postby Sanabel » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:56 pm

Reatra wrote:
Plzen wrote:Desalination, I'm guessing. California is bright enough for decent-ish solar power, which they can then use for seawater desalination.

Of course, solar power => seawater desalination is ridiculously expensive, but I don't see a viable alternative that they can pull off.

And nuclear and wind power.


Basically the reason Cali survived better than most countries is that they started on fiend own early. The USA basically said "fuck you" and let them take care of their own problems in the 2020s. By the time their GLORIOUS LEADER PRESIDENT FOR LIFE fixed the drought problems (socialism, rapid nuclear power plant building, cover the Mojave in panels, vertical farms and rail systems instead of cars) the USA was too battered by riots to get them back. Now Cali didn't simply sail out of the depression, but they were smart and their super-rich president basically spent the vast majority of his funds to make California better.

I can gib uranium in exchange for halp fighting Alaska.
The interregnum is over- I am once again the OP of the Land of the Free RP


I am a Radical Centro-Transhumanist and a National Globalist.
If you don't have a high enough IQ to know what those are, then we can't be friends.

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Postby Plzen » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:57 pm

Reatra wrote:
Plzen wrote:Desalination, I'm guessing. California is bright enough for decent-ish solar power, which they can then use for seawater desalination.

Of course, solar power => seawater desalination is ridiculously expensive, but I don't see a viable alternative that they can pull off.

And nuclear and wind power.


Basically the reason Cali survived better than most countries is that they started on fiend own early. The USA basically said "fuck you" and let them take care of their own problems in the 2020s. By the time their GLORIOUS LEADER PRESIDENT FOR LIFE fixed the drought problems (socialism, rapid nuclear power plant building, cover the Mojave in panels, vertical farms and rail systems instead of cars) the USA was too battered by riots to get them back. Now Cali didn't simply sail out of the depression, but they were smart and their super-rich president basically spent the vast majority of his funds to make California better.

That still isn't enough to make California into a superpower.

The Nordic States has enough natural resources to basically not be affected by any resource crisis, ever, but our economy didn't even triple.

Your GDP has more than quadrupled. Whaaaaaat?

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Postby Sanabel » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:59 pm

Plzen wrote:
Reatra wrote:And nuclear and wind power.


Basically the reason Cali survived better than most countries is that they started on fiend own early. The USA basically said "fuck you" and let them take care of their own problems in the 2020s. By the time their GLORIOUS LEADER PRESIDENT FOR LIFE fixed the drought problems (socialism, rapid nuclear power plant building, cover the Mojave in panels, vertical farms and rail systems instead of cars) the USA was too battered by riots to get them back. Now Cali didn't simply sail out of the depression, but they were smart and their super-rich president basically spent the vast majority of his funds to make California better.

That still isn't enough to make California into a superpower.

The Nordic States has enough natural resources to basically not be affected by any resource crisis, ever, but our economy didn't even triple.

Your GDP has more than quadrupled. Whaaaaaat?

And war tends to destroy infrastructure, not build it up. No economy grows that fast. Not even fascist ones. And fast growing economies are like people losing weight too quick. The changes dont last, or go on at that pace for a long time, at least without long term repercussions.
The interregnum is over- I am once again the OP of the Land of the Free RP


I am a Radical Centro-Transhumanist and a National Globalist.
If you don't have a high enough IQ to know what those are, then we can't be friends.

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Postby Reatra » Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:05 pm

Plzen wrote:
Reatra wrote:And nuclear and wind power.


Basically the reason Cali survived better than most countries is that they started on fiend own early. The USA basically said "fuck you" and let them take care of their own problems in the 2020s. By the time their GLORIOUS LEADER PRESIDENT FOR LIFE fixed the drought problems (socialism, rapid nuclear power plant building, cover the Mojave in panels, vertical farms and rail systems instead of cars) the USA was too battered by riots to get them back. Now Cali didn't simply sail out of the depression, but they were smart and their super-rich president basically spent the vast majority of his funds to make California better.

That still isn't enough to make California into a superpower.

The Nordic States has enough natural resources to basically not be affected by any resource crisis, ever, but our economy didn't even triple.

Your GDP has more than quadrupled. Whaaaaaat?

I looked up projected California GDP for 2055
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Postby New Rnclave » Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:06 pm

Reatra wrote:
Plzen wrote:That still isn't enough to make California into a superpower.

The Nordic States has enough natural resources to basically not be affected by any resource crisis, ever, but our economy didn't even triple.

Your GDP has more than quadrupled. Whaaaaaat?

I looked up projected California GDP for 2055


Did you count in no water, extensive bombing campaigns from the U.S. and civil strife?
Finland SSR wrote: Sex is a form of competitive martial arts, after all.
What don't you understand? I CAN'T DIE!
As if that gives you an excuse to live.

In the end, there is light in the darkness

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Postby Reatra » Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:09 pm

New Rnclave wrote:
Reatra wrote:I looked up projected California GDP for 2055


Did you count in no water, extensive bombing campaigns from the U.S. and civil strife?

Why did you bomb us?!

I thought you said we didn't go to war!
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Postby New Rnclave » Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:13 pm

Reatra wrote:
New Rnclave wrote:
Did you count in no water, extensive bombing campaigns from the U.S. and civil strife?

Why did you bomb us?!

I thought you said we didn't go to war!


I'm kidding :P
Finland SSR wrote: Sex is a form of competitive martial arts, after all.
What don't you understand? I CAN'T DIE!
As if that gives you an excuse to live.

In the end, there is light in the darkness

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Postby Reatra » Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:15 pm

New Rnclave wrote:
Reatra wrote:Why did you bomb us?!

I thought you said we didn't go to war!


I'm kidding :P

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Sanabel
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Postby Sanabel » Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:20 pm

New Rnclave wrote:
Reatra wrote:Why did you bomb us?!

I thought you said we didn't go to war!


I'm kidding :P

Your sarcasm is literally impossible to read.
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Postby Sanabel » Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:21 pm

Like the new flag boys and girls?
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Postby Reatra » Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:23 pm

Sanabel wrote:Like the new flag boys and girls?

I'm a velociraptor.



And yes.
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Postby Plzen » Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:25 pm

Reatra wrote:-snip-

Can you link me to the source? Couldn't find anything for 2050 or 2055 projections.

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Sanabel
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Postby Sanabel » Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:25 pm

Reatra wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Like the new flag boys and girls?

I'm a velociraptor.



And yes.

Yay

I am actually a minarchist, but I'm becoming more and more anti statist every day

Despite wanting to go into the government. If you can't beat em, join em.
The interregnum is over- I am once again the OP of the Land of the Free RP


I am a Radical Centro-Transhumanist and a National Globalist.
If you don't have a high enough IQ to know what those are, then we can't be friends.

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Postby Alouite » Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:25 pm

The IC is about 1/100th as large as the OOC alert.
National Liberalism, National School Economics, National Dividend, Constitutional Originalism, Protection of US Domestic Trade, The Chinese Gov't in Exile in Taipei, and Ending the War on Nouns
Hyman Minsky
Totalitarianism, the Destruction of the Environment, Racism, and, most of all, people who end statements in questions?
The Patriot Act, The Illegitimate Communist Authorities in China, Economic Libertarianism, Absolutism and Communism

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Sanabel
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Postby Sanabel » Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:27 pm

Alouite wrote:The IC is about 1/100th as large as the OOC alert.

Looks like ill get a post up when I get back from my trip.
The interregnum is over- I am once again the OP of the Land of the Free RP


I am a Radical Centro-Transhumanist and a National Globalist.
If you don't have a high enough IQ to know what those are, then we can't be friends.

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New Rnclave
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Postby New Rnclave » Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:36 pm

Sanabel wrote:
New Rnclave wrote:
I'm kidding :P

Your sarcasm is literally impossible to read.


All sarcasm is unreadable unless you make it blatant
Finland SSR wrote: Sex is a form of competitive martial arts, after all.
What don't you understand? I CAN'T DIE!
As if that gives you an excuse to live.

In the end, there is light in the darkness

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