2055: Ain't What it Used to Be[OOC/REBOOT/MANY NATIONS OPEN]

[Reatra]

Um... How much money are you planning on spending? I was thinking maybe one starship jointly owned by all of us.

That would have to be a hell of a ship. And I plan on burning our economies. No, jk, but this isn't cheap stuff. It'll take a good chunk of our economies, but we're all economic powerhouses, so I'm not really thinking money is an issue here.

Let's get China in on it.

[New Rnclave]

Um... How much money are you planning on spending? I was thinking maybe one starship jointly owned by all of us.

That would have to be a hell of a ship. And I plan on burning our economies. No, jk, but this isn't cheap stuff. It'll take a good chunk of our economies, but we're all economic powerhouses, so I'm not really thinking money is an issue here.

Probs would burn your economies

[The Greater Dutch Republic]

That would have to be a hell of a ship. And I plan on burning our economies. No, jk, but this isn't cheap stuff. It'll take a good chunk of our economies, but we're all economic powerhouses, so I'm not really thinking money is an issue here.

Probs would burn your economies

Well, we've got China, Cali, the Nords, myself, and Primorsky in on this. All of use are economic powerhouses, maybe not Primorsky, but they've still got a kick ass economy considering the world just climbed out of a Great Depression times 50. I think it wouldn't crush our economies, but it would tear a huge chunk out if we all worked on one starship for each of us. That's why we have decided to focus instead on 1: California's Space Elevator, and 2: ONE starship that we would all share, less of a warship and more of a look-what-we-can-build-and-you-can't thing.

[New Rnclave]

Probs would burn your economies

Well, we've got China, Cali, the Nords, myself, and Primorsky in on this. All of use are economic powerhouses, maybe not Primorsky, but they've still got a kick ass economy considering the world just climbed out of a Great Depression times 50. I think it wouldn't crush our economies, but it would tear a huge chunk out if we all worked on one starship for each of us. That's why we have decided to focus instead on 1: California's Space Elevator, and 2: ONE starship that we would all share, less of a warship and more of a look-what-we-can-build-and-you-can't thing.

Despite what Reatras saying, that space elevator is in progress. And the Starship would burn your economies because China is kinda screwed, they lsot Tibet and the area around Korea

[Reatra]

Well, we've got China, Cali, the Nords, myself, and Primorsky in on this. All of use are economic powerhouses, maybe not Primorsky, but they've still got a kick ass economy considering the world just climbed out of a Great Depression times 50. I think it wouldn't crush our economies, but it would tear a huge chunk out if we all worked on one starship for each of us. That's why we have decided to focus instead on 1: California's Space Elevator, and 2: ONE starship that we would all share, less of a warship and more of a look-what-we-can-build-and-you-can't thing.

Despite what Reatras saying, that space elevator is in progress. And the Starship would burn your economies because China is kinda screwed, they lsot Tibet and the area around Korea

But China is still freakin China.

[New Rnclave]

Despite what Reatras saying, that space elevator is in progress. And the Starship would burn your economies because China is kinda screwed, they lsot Tibet and the area around Korea

But China is still freakin China.

China has recovered somewhat from the Sino-Asian War, but the more things change, the more they stay the same. Of course, the new revolution turned bloody, and after a few purges, you can notes that many of the Second Republic's leaders were influential PLAN military leaders and businessmen. Now their sons and grandsons are running the country in various corrupt cliques. China has reasserted itself in Africa, avoiding Asian adventures.

[Reatra]

But China is still freakin China.

China has recovered somewhat from the Sino-Asian War, but the more things change, the more they stay the same. Of course, the new revolution turned bloody, and after a few purges, you can notes that many of the Second Republic's leaders were influential PLAN military leaders and businessmen. Now their sons and grandsons are running the country in various corrupt cliques. China has reasserted itself in Africa, avoiding Asian adventures.

...and are a close partner of California.

[New Rnclave]

China has recovered somewhat from the Sino-Asian War, but the more things change, the more they stay the same. Of course, the new revolution turned bloody, and after a few purges, you can notes that many of the Second Republic's leaders were influential PLAN military leaders and businessmen. Now their sons and grandsons are running the country in various corrupt cliques. China has reasserted itself in Africa, avoiding Asian adventures.

...and are a close partner of California.

SAR-SCR Are close allies Nice try thou

[Sanabel]

Well, we've got China, Cali, the Nords, myself, and Primorsky in on this. All of use are economic powerhouses, maybe not Primorsky, but they've still got a kick ass economy considering the world just climbed out of a Great Depression times 50. I think it wouldn't crush our economies, but it would tear a huge chunk out if we all worked on one starship for each of us. That's why we have decided to focus instead on 1: California's Space Elevator, and 2: ONE starship that we would all share, less of a warship and more of a look-what-we-can-build-and-you-can't thing.

Despite what Reatras saying, that space elevator is in progress. And the Starship would burn your economies because China is kinda screwed, they lsot Tibet and the area around Korea

Manchuria?

How the fuck did they lose that?

That is one of the most Chinese areas.

Who owns it?

[New Rnclave]

Despite what Reatras saying, that space elevator is in progress. And the Starship would burn your economies because China is kinda screwed, they lsot Tibet and the area around Korea

Manchuria?

How the fuck did they lose that?

That is one of the most Chinese areas.

Who owns it?

Japan, Japan helped the most to defeat them in the Sino-Asian War

[Sanabel]

Manchuria?

How the fuck did they lose that?

That is one of the most Chinese areas.

Who owns it?

Japan, Japan helped the most to defeat them in the Sino-Asian War

Looks like I'm gonna have to ask the Japs to gib land plox.

There is large Russian minority in Northeastern Manchuria.

[Alouite]

Manchuria?

How the fuck did they lose that?

That is one of the most Chinese areas.

Who owns it?

Japan, Japan helped the most to defeat them in the Sino-Asian War

This Sino-Asian war sounds far too like a replica of WW2's early Chinese-Japanese War. You realize if that happened it would mean the Chinese propaganda IRL is true about Japan portraying them as evil demons waiting for a chance to invade again, right?

[The Greater Dutch Republic]

Japan, Japan helped the most to defeat them in the Sino-Asian War

Looks like I'm gonna have to ask the Japs to gib land plox.

There is large Russian minority in Northeastern Manchuria.

I'll back you with my space battleship

[Sanabel]

Japan, Japan helped the most to defeat them in the Sino-Asian War

This Sino-Asian war sounds far too like a replica of WW2's early Chinese-Japanese War. You realize if that happened it would mean the Chinese propaganda IRL is true about Japan portraying them as evil demons waiting for a chance to invade again, right?

I like this guy.

Plus, Japan could never win a land war in China, or continue to occupy an integral part of it for the duration after, without bio weapons or some shit.

[New Rnclave]

Japan, Japan helped the most to defeat them in the Sino-Asian War

This Sino-Asian war sounds far too like a replica of WW2's early Chinese-Japanese War. You realize if that happened it would mean the Chinese propaganda IRL is true about Japan portraying them as evil demons waiting for a chance to invade again, right?

n China, tensions between the People's Republic and its neighbors reached a boiling point. Once the dollar collapsed, the CCP knew its days were numbered. In a fit of desperation, they decided that the best way to motivate the people (and keep their large male population distracted) was a short, clean war in the South China Sea. The Sino-Asian War did not turn out well for the Chinese. After a failed invasion into Vietnam[4] and the destruction of the Chinese navy at the hands of Japan and South Korea, the People's Republic eventually fell to internal unrest. The war had cut China off from all imports, destroying its economy and causing more problems than it hoped to solve with a short war. A second Republic of China was declared by defecting PLAN revolutionaries in Beijing in 2028, and by 2032, they had the entire country under their control

China fell apart against the south Asian nations

[Sanabel]

This Sino-Asian war sounds far too like a replica of WW2's early Chinese-Japanese War. You realize if that happened it would mean the Chinese propaganda IRL is true about Japan portraying them as evil demons waiting for a chance to invade again, right?

n China, tensions between the People's Republic and its neighbors reached a boiling point. Once the dollar collapsed, the CCP knew its days were numbered. In a fit of desperation, they decided that the best way to motivate the people (and keep their large male population distracted) was a short, clean war in the South China Sea. The Sino-Asian War did not turn out well for the Chinese. After a failed invasion into Vietnam[4] and the destruction of the Chinese navy at the hands of Japan and South Korea, the People's Republic eventually fell to internal unrest. The war had cut China off from all imports, destroying its economy and causing more problems than it hoped to solve with a short war. A second Republic of China was declared by defecting PLAN revolutionaries in Beijing in 2028, and by 2032, they had the entire country under their control

China fell apart against the south Asian nations

Chinese people, I'm assuming, remained a nation, despite the state's collapse.

So, unless there was an extermination, you have a hundred million nationalist, anti-Japanese Han Chinese people living under Japanese rule in Manchuria. Definitely no problems there.

[New Rnclave]

n China, tensions between the People's Republic and its neighbors reached a boiling point. Once the dollar collapsed, the CCP knew its days were numbered. In a fit of desperation, they decided that the best way to motivate the people (and keep their large male population distracted) was a short, clean war in the South China Sea. The Sino-Asian War did not turn out well for the Chinese. After a failed invasion into Vietnam[4] and the destruction of the Chinese navy at the hands of Japan and South Korea, the People's Republic eventually fell to internal unrest. The war had cut China off from all imports, destroying its economy and causing more problems than it hoped to solve with a short war. A second Republic of China was declared by defecting PLAN revolutionaries in Beijing in 2028, and by 2032, they had the entire country under their control

China fell apart against the south Asian nations

Chinese people, I'm assuming, remained a nation, despite the state's collapse.

So, unless there was an extermination, you have a hundred million nationalist, anti-Japanese Han Chinese people living under Japanese rule in Manchuria. Definitely no problems there.

Yeah I'm messed up, I'm making a map and they don't own Manchuria, it's still Chinese

[Sanabel]

Chinese people, I'm assuming, remained a nation, despite the state's collapse.

So, unless there was an extermination, you have a hundred million nationalist, anti-Japanese Han Chinese people living under Japanese rule in Manchuria. Definitely no problems there.

Yeah I'm messed up, I'm making a map and they don't own Manchuria, it's still Chinese

Alright, good.

This isn't 1938 all over again. It would be a lot harder today.

[Reatra]

...and are a close partner of California.

SAR-SCR Are close allies Nice try thou

China was he first to recognize me. And I have helped them through out the years build their "Green Wall" and help give them renewable energies.

[New Rnclave]

SAR-SCR Are close allies Nice try thou

China was he first to recognize me. And I have helped them through out the years build their "Green Wall" and help give them renewable energies.

No they didn't? The SAR actually recognized you

[Sanabel]

SAR-SCR Are close allies Nice try thou

China was he first to recognize me. And I have helped them through out the years build their "Green Wall" and help give them renewable energies.

Want to be friends?

After Alaska gets thur freedoms, we can take them over together! You could get the south, and ill take the Aleutians and the north.

[New Rnclave]

China was he first to recognize me. And I have helped them through out the years build their "Green Wall" and help give them renewable energies.

Want to be friends?

After Alaska gets thur freedoms, we can take them over together! You could get the south, and ill take the Aleutians and the north.

Alaska has freedom

[Reatra]

China was he first to recognize me. And I have helped them through out the years build their "Green Wall" and help give them renewable energies.

No they didn't? The SAR actually recognized you

But we sort of gradually became independent. The declaration came later, and at that point the Chinese were just straight up waiting to recognize me and get my technologies. You came second.

[New Rnclave]

No they didn't? The SAR actually recognized you

But we sort of gradually became independent. The declaration came later, and at that point the Chinese were just straight up waiting to recognize me and get my technologies. You came second.

Why are you chave not rolling China? California would be battered from the war

[Sanabel]

Want to be friends?

After Alaska gets thur freedoms, we can take them over together! You could get the south, and ill take the Aleutians and the north.

Alaska has freedom

Want to do it now then, Cali?

Perhaps mommy Japan will gib help.