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Postby New Rnclave » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:41 am

Sanabel wrote:I have a couple questions.

Should the Primorsky Republic of Russia have any colonies?

What should the GDP be?

And can my population be a bit bigger due to Russian settlers/refugees leaving occidental Russia for security and stuff, and maybe Chinese refugees as well due to unrest?


Once China collapsed, I'd expect them to flee somewhere :P And 500 billion maybe?
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Postby New Rnclave » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:42 am

Plzen wrote:My application is now finished.


I'll look over it later :P But from what I saw, looks good :P
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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:45 am

Was my reservation accepted?

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Postby New Rnclave » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:46 am

The Peoples East Africa wrote:Was my reservation accepted?


Can you repeat if for me? :P
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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:47 am

New Rnclave wrote:
The Peoples East Africa wrote:Was my reservation accepted?


Can you repeat if for me? :P

Sure. It was Kurdistan, with the Kurdish majority areas of the Middle East, and a bit more given for helping Israel take control of the whole place.

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Postby Sanabel » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:48 am

New Rnclave wrote:
Sanabel wrote:I have a couple questions.

Should the Primorsky Republic of Russia have any colonies?

What should the GDP be?

And can my population be a bit bigger due to Russian settlers/refugees leaving occidental Russia for security and stuff, and maybe Chinese refugees as well due to unrest?


Once China collapsed, I'd expect them to flee somewhere :P And 500 billion maybe?

That might be a bit large.

What about colonies?
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Postby New Rnclave » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:53 am

Sanabel wrote:
New Rnclave wrote:
Once China collapsed, I'd expect them to flee somewhere :P And 500 billion maybe?

That might be a bit large.

What about colonies?


Planetside? Maybe a few islands in the Pacific, Off Planet? America is the only one with a half permanent presence on the Moon, next is Japan, who is on the verge of it, then Germany is just enjoying having the dominant Infantry Forces :P
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Postby Sanabel » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:55 am

New Rnclave wrote:
Sanabel wrote:That might be a bit large.

What about colonies?


Planetside? Maybe a few islands in the Pacific, Off Planet? America is the only one with a half permanent presence on the Moon, next is Japan, who is on the verge of it, then Germany is just enjoying having the dominant Infantry Forces :P

Sounds good

What would a good GDP be? And what would a good pop. be, adding in Russian and Chinese immigration?
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Postby New Rnclave » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:57 am

Sanabel wrote:
New Rnclave wrote:
Planetside? Maybe a few islands in the Pacific, Off Planet? America is the only one with a half permanent presence on the Moon, next is Japan, who is on the verge of it, then Germany is just enjoying having the dominant Infantry Forces :P

Sounds good

What would a good GDP be? And what would a good pop. be, adding in Russian and Chinese immigration?


50 billion maybe? And 5-6,000,000 I'd bet
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Postby New Rnclave » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:59 am

For reference, the Collapse left most nations broken and fighting for survival. The effects were so far reaching, that even the strongest nations, America, Japan and Germany, would be about as strong as regional powers today. The blocs they form, like Germany is allied with the Balkans, Russia and Austria, etc., all together, the German bloc is a superpower, but Germany is just a regional power in reality. Same with America and Japan
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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:59 am

New Rnclave wrote:For reference, the Collapse left most nations broken and fighting for survival. The effects were so far reaching, that even the strongest nations, America, Japan and Germany, would be about as strong as regional powers today. The blocs they form, like Germany is allied with the Balkans, Russia and Austria, etc., all together, the German bloc is a superpower, but Germany is just a regional power in reality. Same with America and Japan

That's nice for them. On a different matter, can I reserve Kurdistan?

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Postby Plzen » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:59 am

How about this as a rough rule of thumb for GDP?

Start with your 2015 RL GDP, halve it, then multiply it by one plus the number of the following that are true:

1. Your nation was a poor country to start with,
2. Your country is rich in more than two kinds of energy resource (things like fossil fuels, uranium... petroleum and natural gas count only once and all "renewable energy" except uranium count as one),
3. Your country is rich in more than two kinds of construction resource (iron ore, timber, etc.)
4. Your country did not suffer from a civil war,
5. Your country did not fight an external war

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Postby Sanabel » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:00 am

New Rnclave wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Sounds good

What would a good GDP be? And what would a good pop. be, adding in Russian and Chinese immigration?


50 billion maybe? And 5-6,000,000 I'd bet

6,000,000 is what it would be IRL actually, now.


I'm thinking maybe 15 million?
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Postby Sanabel » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:01 am

Plzen wrote:How about this as a rough rule of thumb for GDP?

Start with your 2015 RL GDP, halve it, then multiply it by one plus the number of the following that are true:

1. Your nation was a poor country to start with,
2. Your country is rich in more than two kinds of energy resource (things like fossil fuels, uranium... petroleum and natural gas count only once and all "renewable energy" except uranium count as one),
3. Your country is rich in more than two kinds of construction resource (iron ore, timber, etc.)
4. Your country did not suffer from a civil war,
5. Your country did not fight an external war

That would be good for me actually. We are super resource rich and already have industry to start.
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Postby Plzen » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:03 am

Sanabel wrote:
Plzen wrote:How about this as a rough rule of thumb for GDP?

Start with your 2015 RL GDP, halve it, then multiply it by one plus the number of the following that are true:

1. Your nation was a poor country to start with,
2. Your country is rich in more than two kinds of energy resource (things like fossil fuels, uranium... petroleum and natural gas count only once and all "renewable energy" except uranium count as one),
3. Your country is rich in more than two kinds of construction resource (iron ore, timber, etc.)
4. Your country did not suffer from a civil war,
5. Your country did not fight an external war

That would be good for me actually. We are super resource rich and already have industry to start.

Can you link me to your app? I want to use your country as an example of how this method is supposed to work.



By the way, Rnclave, the original post links to the old IC. You might want to fix that, since I assume you want to start this reboot on a new thread.
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Postby New Rnclave » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:06 am

Plzen wrote:How about this as a rough rule of thumb for GDP?

Start with your 2015 RL GDP, halve it, then multiply it by one plus the number of the following that are true:

1. Your nation was a poor country to start with,
2. Your country is rich in more than two kinds of energy resource (things like fossil fuels, uranium... petroleum and natural gas count only once and all "renewable energy" except uranium count as one),
3. Your country is rich in more than two kinds of construction resource (iron ore, timber, etc.)
4. Your country did not suffer from a civil war,
5. Your country did not fight an external war


Plzen your a flipping genius
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Postby Sanabel » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:06 am

Plzen wrote:
Sanabel wrote:That would be good for me actually. We are super resource rich and already have industry to start.

Can you link me to your app? I want to use your country as an example of how this method is supposed to work.



By the way, Rnclave, the original post links to the old IC. You might want to fix that, since I assume you want to start this reboot on a new thread.

I'm still working on it, actually.
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Postby New Rnclave » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:07 am

Sanabel wrote:
New Rnclave wrote:
50 billion maybe? And 5-6,000,000 I'd bet

6,000,000 is what it would be IRL actually, now.


I'm thinking maybe 15 million?


That'll work
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Postby New Rnclave » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:07 am

The Peoples East Africa wrote:
New Rnclave wrote:For reference, the Collapse left most nations broken and fighting for survival. The effects were so far reaching, that even the strongest nations, America, Japan and Germany, would be about as strong as regional powers today. The blocs they form, like Germany is allied with the Balkans, Russia and Austria, etc., all together, the German bloc is a superpower, but Germany is just a regional power in reality. Same with America and Japan

That's nice for them. On a different matter, can I reserve Kurdistan?


Yes :P
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Postby Plzen » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:07 am

New Rnclave wrote:Plzen your a flipping genius

Why, thank you.

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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:07 am

New Rnclave wrote:
The Peoples East Africa wrote:That's nice for them. On a different matter, can I reserve Kurdistan?


Yes :P

Woo! Thanks.

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Postby Sanabel » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:16 am

Just did it.

GDP is 150 billion.

Seems a bit low as I would probably be one of the biggest energy producers in the region.
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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:18 am

Plzen wrote:How about this as a rough rule of thumb for GDP?

Start with your 2015 RL GDP, halve it, then multiply it by one plus the number of the following that are true:

1. Your nation was a poor country to start with,
2. Your country is rich in more than two kinds of energy resource (things like fossil fuels, uranium... petroleum and natural gas count only once and all "renewable energy" except uranium count as one),
3. Your country is rich in more than two kinds of construction resource (iron ore, timber, etc.)
4. Your country did not suffer from a civil war,
5. Your country did not fight an external war

I can't find any GDP info for Kurdistan except for Iraqi Kurdistan.

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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:19 am

Sanabel wrote:Just did it.

GDP is 150 billion.

Seems a bit low as I would probably be one of the biggest energy producers in the region.

Did you do something wrong? Halve of Germany's GDP is far bigger than that. But you're not Germany. Never mind.
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Postby Sanabel » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:19 am

The Peoples East Africa wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Just did it.

GDP is 150 billion.

Seems a bit low as I would probably be one of the biggest energy producers in the region.

Did you do something wrong? Halve of Germany's GDP is far bigger than that.

I'm not Germany
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