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Ain't What it Used to Be: 2055

"The future ain't what it used to be." - Yogi Berra


OP: Myself
Co-OPs: TBD

Welcome to the Ain't What it Used to Be: 2055 Nation RP

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Welcome to the year 2055. The past forty years have been eventful, to say the least. The darker days of the 21st century are behind the world, and it seems that the new order that arose out of the ashes of the old has stabilized enough. Who knows how long this will last? Who knows when the next crisis will strike?

The crisis of the early 21st century began with the Great Recession of 2008. The Recession weakened the entire global economy, but just as it seemed to be sputtering back to life in the late 2010s, another crisis hit. The "petrodollar" system, negotiated by the United States and the various OPEC currencies, was destroyed when OPEC declared a second oil embargo against the United States and the rest of the West in 2017. This was done as a result of the United States being less dependent on OPEC oil thanks to an increase in domestic production, resulting in the US becoming a direct competitor to OPEC and the American government gradually supporting Israel more in the various conflicts against the chaos that has engulfed its neighbors (including Egypt). The United States dollar spiraled into massive inflation, destroying the American economy overnight.

It was not long before unrest began. Riots by the desperate and hungry spread throughout the country. Politicians seemed incapable of doing anything, as both Democratic and Republican parties pandered to the more extreme wings of their parties. As government, on the local, state and federal level, cracked down on the unrest, the people cried tyranny and demanded a rollback on the "police state." By 2020, after President Biden refused to run for office, and the Republican Party was too splintered to successfully rally around a candidate. In the end, it didn't matter, because the presidential election would be canceled due to the Texas Crisis. Tensions between Texas and the United States had been brewing since the late 2000s, but the final nail in the coffin was when Texas National Guard refused to allow American military into the state as part of a training exercise. When the National Guard attempted to arrest American soldiers crossing over the border, fighting broke out between the two groups. When the governor of Texas refused to order the National Guard to stop, and an attempt was made by FBI to arrest him, Texas declared itself independent from the Union, on the grounds that the federal government had violated Texas' constitutional rights.


The fall of the American hegemony had interesting effects on the rest of the world. NATO, the old one, was powerless, and soon Europe found itself fighting against a very bold, very old, Vladimir Putin. Fighting was limited to the Baltics, Belarus and Ukraine, and never went nuclear. While the Russians ultimately lost the Eurasian War[3], it was no walk in the park for the European governments either - the collapse of the US hurt the Euro, and the massive war expenditures killed it. The Euro, and then the European Union itself, broke up, with the various European powers creating regional blocs. In the meanwhile, Greece fell to a communist revolution. Go figure.

In China, tensions between the People's Republic and its neighbors reached a boiling point. Once the dollar collapsed, the CCP knew its days were numbered. In a fit of desperation, they decided that the best way to motivate the people (and keep their large male population distracted) was a short, clean war in the South China Sea. The Sino-Asian War did not turn out well for the Chinese. After a failed invasion into Vietnam[4] and the destruction of the Chinese navy at the hands of Japan and South Korea, the People's Republic eventually fell to internal unrest. The war had cut China off from all imports, destroying its economy and causing more problems than it hoped to solve with a short war. A second Republic of China was declared by defecting PLAN revolutionaries in Beijing in 2028, and by 2032, they had the entire country under their control.

The Middle East powder keg exploded, and after the dust settled, Israel was the big winner. The Saudi-Iranian "cold war" became hot, after the Saudi royal family was overthrown by an Islamist revolt, supported by the Islamic State, which the Iranians sought to stop. Israel joined the fray after the Islamic State attacked it in retaliation for giving covert support to the Iranians (the lesser of two evils, in Tel Aviv's eyes), and the Israelis showed the Islamic State exactly why the older Arab governments did not want to mess with them. While the Islamic State did succeed in destroying the Islamic Republic of Iran, they merely paved the way for Israeli dominance of the region.


Here's a brief outline of what is below:
-1- A description of the RP
-2- A map of the RP
-3- IC, UNGA, UNSC, Alliance threads, meetings/conferences, etc
-4- A list of countries and their players(Roster)
-5- Applications for Key Powers( Ex. US, Germany and France, England and Russia )
-6- Applications for regular nations
-7- The Rule of the RP
-8- Announcements

The 2055 Nation RP: Ain't What it Used to Be


WiP


Below is the official map of this RP. It shows major powers (with or without players) and nations belonging to players. This map will be updated as often as possible.

* Autonomous States like Alaska, Texas, Utah, Etc. Can be Rp'd :P





Links:
IC thread: IC
UN thread: Coming Soon
Asia Summit Thread: Here

Roster:
Here's a list of the nations and their players. This is not a list of the only countries allowed to be played.

Accepted Nations:

Second American Republic New Rnclave

Primorsky Republic of Russia Sanabel

United States of Holland The Greater Dutch Republic

Republic of Kurdistan [nation] The People's East Africa[/nation]

German Republic Zelent

Califronia Republic Reatra

Confederation of Nordic States Plzen



Reserved:

Califronia Republic Reatra


Terrorist/Rebel/Insurgent Groups


Corporations


Applications:
Several powers are essential to the playing of this RP. See instructions for application farther down. Please consider playing a power if any are available. If you are playing one of these powers, I except you to do some more research so that you know your nation inside and out.

Applications for nations:
Code: Select all
 [box][size=150][b]Generic Info[/b][/size]
[b]Nation Name: [/b]
[b]Symbols: [/b] (ex. Flag, Coat of Arms, National Anthem, personifications, etc.)
[b]Homeland Population: [/b] (population of everyone considered a citizen)
[b]Imperial Population:[/b] (include population of colonies)
[b]Location/Claims: [/b] (include number)
[b]Capital City: [/b]

[size=150][b]Government Info[/b][/size]
[b]Government Type:[/b] (ex. The USA is a [i]Presidential Constitutional Federal Republic[/i])
[b]Brief Explanation of Government:[/b] (explain all the complex/unique stuff that can't be described in the type section)
[b]Ideology:[/b]  (Refer to [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_ideologies]this[/url])
[b]Leader/s:[/b]  (Head of State, Head of Government, etc.)

[size=150][b]Population Info[/b][/size]
[b]Brief Description of your people:[/b]
[b]Religion:[/b]
[b]Ethnicity:[/b]
[b]Main/Accepted Culture(s):[/b] (ex. IRL-UK would be English, Scottish; only cultures that are dominant and the gov't favors)
[b]Other Cultures:[/b] (ex. IRL-UK would have been Irish, Welsh, etc ; cultures that aren't accepted by the gov't/people)

[b][size=150]Economy[/size][/b]
[b]GDP Expectation as of 2055:[/b]
[b]Main Exports: /b]
[b]Main Imports: [/b]
[b]Other information: [/b]

[size=150][b]Military Info[/b][/size]
[b]Army: [/b] (branches, number of troops, quality of army, etc,)
[b]Navy: [/b] (branches, number of troops, quality of navy, etc,)

[size=150]Other Info[/size]
[b]Brief Description of your Economy:[/b]
[b]Goals: [/b]
[b]History: [/b] ( Must include how the nation fared during the collapse )
[b]Special Factors: [/b]
[b]Code Word:[/b]
[b]RP Sample:[/b] (required)
429 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.[/box]
 


Application for Rebel Groups:
Code: Select all
[box]
 Name of your Rebel Group:
 Country that you are rebelling in:
 Base of Operations:
 Number of Followers/Members:
 Why you are rebelling:
 Popular support:
 Quality of Weapons, from 1 to 10:
 Suppliers:
 429 (It helps to find apps)[/box]


I will be background checking all of your application for accuracy. You will not be accepted until your application is as accurate as can be. Don't worry, I will help you out if you don't know any information.
Last but certainly not least, there are a few rules to go over:

Rules:

Timescale:
In this RP, I will be generally directing the timescale, although you are welcome to help out with that in the game. Because of the nature of the way RPs like this work, a single day can elapse over countless posts, or a single post can advance the timeline by a month. All that is asked is that no-one advance the timeline unreasonably. By this I mean that if two nations are at a conference and are engaging in discussions, some other player can't make a post that takes place a week in the future. That being said, try to keep such conferences to a minimum in order to keep the timeline moving. And be aware of the limitations that exist in communication technologies at this time.

Waging War:
Any conflict that is started must be waged reasonably and realistically. This is still the Twenty First Century people! Troops are constantly hampered by the technological limitations of the day, which I will go into more detail about below:

Technology:
Understanding the limitations of your nation's technology is important. Make sure that you play according to that technology.

Know How to Lose:
This is the biggest problem I see in RPs, and I have no doubt that some dummy will cause this issue at some point. In every battle, at every second, every side tries to describe some heroic definitive victory move, a "checkmate" if you will, that causes their army to emerge victorious. This results in an incredibly childish back-and-forth and makes the game un-enjoyable. if you are losing due to decisions made earlier on, then for god's sake lose! Don't try to make up some bullcrap about a single unit of soldiers that manages to survive and win the day, that's not how real war works. Now, I'm not saying that occasionally, in certain circumstances, definitive heroics aren't allowed. If I catch anyone breaking this simple rule of integrity in a major way, there will be one warning, followed by out-the-door.


Meta-Gaming:
This is the last point I need to make. What is meta-gaming? Well, when the British start thinking about negotiating a takeover of Mexico, and suddenly Mexico boosts it's military numbers way up and is put on high alert, that's meta-gaming: because Mexico couldn't possibly know exactly what the British were thinking. This is unacceptable. Also, you must declare espionage before you commit it, (either on the OOC or IC) you can't just say that you committed espionage and knew the enemy's plans after you had decimated their entire army.





Announcements:
IC thread is up!
CUBA IS AWESOME!!


That is all
Last edited by New Rnclave on Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:33 pm, edited 5 times in total.
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:16 pm

Reserve Texas.
Last Edited By George S. Patton on December 21, 1945 edited 3 times in total

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Postby New Rnclave » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:18 pm

Australian Antarctica wrote:Reserve Texas.


The Autonomous Republic?
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:19 pm

New Rnclave wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote:Reserve Texas.


The Autonomous Republic?

No, the Bakery on Main Street...yes the Republic.
Last Edited By George S. Patton on December 21, 1945 edited 3 times in total

Pro: Mixed Market Economies, Education, Guns but with some common sense restrictions, UBI, Literally Actual Civil Rights
Neutral: Democrats, UN, NATO
Anti: Republicanism, Performative Allyship, Terrorism, North Korea, Trump, Clinton, Fascism, Authoritarianism in any form
Male, 18, Like a Hick, but also very Leftist
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33
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Postby New Rnclave » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:20 pm

Australian Antarctica wrote:
New Rnclave wrote:
The Autonomous Republic?

No, the Bakery on Main Street...yes the Republic.


They're still technically part of the United States, there an autonomous republic
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:23 pm

New Rnclave wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote:No, the Bakery on Main Street...yes the Republic.


They're still technically part of the United States, there an autonomous republic

That either wasn't explained or I misread. Explain how Texas, the state who threatens to secede every few years it seems is still part of the U.S., but California who is very attached to the government is independent?
Last Edited By George S. Patton on December 21, 1945 edited 3 times in total

Pro: Mixed Market Economies, Education, Guns but with some common sense restrictions, UBI, Literally Actual Civil Rights
Neutral: Democrats, UN, NATO
Anti: Republicanism, Performative Allyship, Terrorism, North Korea, Trump, Clinton, Fascism, Authoritarianism in any form
Male, 18, Like a Hick, but also very Leftist
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33
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Postby New Rnclave » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:23 pm

Australian Antarctica wrote:
New Rnclave wrote:
They're still technically part of the United States, there an autonomous republic

That either wasn't explained or I misread. Explain how Texas, the state who threatens to secede every few years it seems is still part of the U.S., but California who is very attached to the government is independent?


Cali has water probs, Texas is given special privileges
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:26 pm

New Rnclave wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote:That either wasn't explained or I misread. Explain how Texas, the state who threatens to secede every few years it seems is still part of the U.S., but California who is very attached to the government is independent?


Cali has water probs, Texas is given special privileges

It just doesn't seem realistic IMO. In fact, if Texas were to secede, they could support themselves rather easily, while Cali has water problems and is reliant on other states to keep going. If anything, it should be switched
Last Edited By George S. Patton on December 21, 1945 edited 3 times in total

Pro: Mixed Market Economies, Education, Guns but with some common sense restrictions, UBI, Literally Actual Civil Rights
Neutral: Democrats, UN, NATO
Anti: Republicanism, Performative Allyship, Terrorism, North Korea, Trump, Clinton, Fascism, Authoritarianism in any form
Male, 18, Like a Hick, but also very Leftist
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33
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Postby New Rnclave » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:28 pm

Australian Antarctica wrote:
New Rnclave wrote:
Cali has water probs, Texas is given special privileges

It just doesn't seem realistic IMO. In fact, if Texas were to secede, they could support themselves rather easily, while Cali has water problems and is reliant on other states to keep going. If anything, it should be switched


No. No they couldn't support themselves. If Texas seceded, the USA would just invade them and secure it.
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Postby Reatra » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:29 pm

Generic Info
Nation Name: The Republic of The Californias/La República de Las Californias
Symbols: Flag Seal (ar ar ar) Coat of Arms
Homeland Population: 66 million
Imperial Population: 8 million (Sonora)
Location/Claims: Sonora is simply occupied because the cartels are messing with muh commerce.
Capital City: Sacramento

Government Info
Government Type: Unitary Republic
Brief Explanation of Government: The President has control over half of the state, with the congress and court splitting the other half. Therefore, the executive branch has more power over the country, but if the other two branches both agree to stop something the President is doing they can. It's weird to explain governments that don't exist.
Ideology: Environmentalism, Gender Equality, Liberal Nationalism, Liberal Socialism
Leader/s: President Riley Soto, General Danny Leon, Congress,

Population Info
Brief Description of your people: I never know what to put here, a description of my people?!
Religion: Mostly Catholic, with significant Atheist populations and Buddhists.
Ethnicity: About 61% Latino, 24% White, 8% Asian, 4% Black, 3% Native American
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Californian, Californio (people in Baja California)
Other Cultures: Mexican

Economy
GDP Expectation as of 2055: 8.88 trillion
Main Exports: Machinery, technology, copper, tin, sulphur, cars, planes, basically refined stuff, electricity to the rest of the West Coast, water to Nevada and Arizona and Oregon
Main Imports: Raw materials in general, iron ore
Other information: Very developed, based around turning basic out-of-the-earth things into refined objects.

Military Info
Army: Californian Army (they weren't very original). Works to protect the borders, even though the USA let them off peacefully and benefits more from an independent California. Right now mostly works to continue the occupation of Sonora and wipe the place of drug cartels. Every man must serve six months active duty at age 21 (or whenever they become a citizen for immigrants that are over 21 but younger than 40).
Navy: Californian Navy (again, not very creative). Protects commerce from pirate seasteaders, escorts some important goods, is completely volunteer unlike the army. Really, really advanced.

Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: Free-market socialist, with the government providing healthcare, food, water (not for free though) but letting capitalists take care of the rest. Heavy investment in infrastructure (like the Eureka-San Diego maglev train and desalination plants) and focus on environmentalism have been able to reverse the Megadrought and bring prosperity back to the economy and republic.
Goals: Control areas of Mexico to ensure smooth economic transition, continue to export environmental technology (especially to China).
History: California wasn't as affected by government crazyness in the early 21st Century as much as it was by the Megadrought. In fact, the economy fell so much that the government really didn't even want to deal with it, forcing California to become a de facto independent nation. The entire state, though, was able to unify behind the goal of fixing the economy and environment, and therefore the construction of new desalination plants, powered by miniature nuclear reactors, began to pump water. The Mojave was covered in solar panels that were maintained by the modern equivalent of frontier towns, and massive infrastructure projects were begun. By 2036 the economy was back to its previous growth rates, and to ensure that the Americans never benefitted from projects they had no part in, a formal Declaration of Independence was signed. The USA was too busy with other things to enforce their will upon the state they formerly wanted nothing to to with. After independence, the President Riley Soto was sympathetic to the plight of the Mexicans, whose government had fallen apart and replaced by either state governments or drug cartels. Baja California was officially annexed in 2039, with the highways and traintracks expanded to include them, and the Baja Peninsula became a major source of solar power. China was the First Nation to recognize Californian independence and has since been a close partner in trade, commerce, and diplomacy. After shooting up in economic power to rival that of the USA (who was still messing about), California decided that Sonoran cartels were too much of a danger to commerce and citizens in Baja California. Therefore a military campaign, with new California-made weapons based around robotics and advanced long-range target assassination, plus several "super-suits", took place. Sonora was occupied, and to this day continues to be the setting for several fights.
Special Factors: Massive technology industry, China's support to do things, and near monopoly on Asia-America trade.
Code Word: I read the OP and can't find it... Is it 2055?
RP Sample: you so funny
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What I didn't copy paste why would I do that
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Postby New Rnclave » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:30 pm

Reatra wrote:
Generic Info
Nation Name: The Republic of The Californias/La República de Las Californias
Symbols: Flag Seal (ar ar ar) Coat of Arms
Homeland Population: 66 million
Imperial Population: 8 million (Sonora)
Location/Claims: Sonora is simply occupied because the cartels are messing with muh commerce.
Capital City: Sacramento

Government Info
Government Type: Unitary Republic
Brief Explanation of Government: The President has control over half of the state, with the congress and court splitting the other half. Therefore, the executive branch has more power over the country, but if the other two branches both agree to stop something the President is doing they can. It's weird to explain governments that don't exist.
Ideology: Environmentalism, Gender Equality, Liberal Nationalism, Liberal Socialism
Leader/s: President Riley Soto, General Danny Leon, Congress,

Population Info
Brief Description of your people: I never know what to put here, a description of my people?!
Religion: Mostly Catholic, with significant Atheist populations and Buddhists.
Ethnicity: About 61% Latino, 24% White, 8% Asian, 4% Black, 3% Native American
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Californian, Californio (people in Baja California)
Other Cultures: Mexican

Economy
GDP Expectation as of 2055: 11.1 trillion
Main Exports: Machinery, technology, copper, tin, sulphur, cars, planes, basically refined stuff, electricity to the rest of the West Coast, water to Nevada and Arizona and Oregon
Main Imports: Raw materials in general, iron ore
Other information: Very developed, based around turning basic out-of-the-earth things into refined objects.

Military Info
Army: Californian Army (they weren't very original). Works to protect the borders, even though the USA let them off peacefully and benefits more from an independent California. Right now mostly works to continue the occupation of Sonora and wipe the place of drug cartels. Every man must serve six months active duty at age 21 (or whenever they become a citizen for immigrants that are over 21 but younger than 40).
Navy: Californian Navy (again, not very creative). Protects commerce from pirate seasteaders, escorts some important goods, is completely volunteer unlike the army. Really, really advanced.

Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: Free-market socialist, with the government providing healthcare, food, water (not for free though) but letting capitalists take care of the rest. Heavy investment in infrastructure (like the Eureka-San Diego maglev train and desalination plants) and focus on environmentalism have been able to reverse the Megadrought and bring prosperity back to the economy and republic.
Goals: Control areas of Mexico to ensure smooth economic transition, continue to export environmental technology (especially to China).
History: California wasn't as affected by government crazyness in the early 21st Century as much as it was by the Megadrought. In fact, the economy fell so much that the government really didn't even want to deal with it, forcing California to become a de facto independent nation. The entire state, though, was able to unify behind the goal of fixing the economy and environment, and therefore the construction of new desalination plants, powered by miniature nuclear reactors, began to pump water. The Mojave was covered in solar panels that were maintained by the modern equivalent of frontier towns, and massive infrastructure projects were begun. By 2036 the economy was back to its previous growth rates, and to ensure that the Americans never benefitted from projects they had no part in, a formal Declaration of Independence was signed. The USA was too busy with other things to enforce their will upon the state they formerly wanted nothing to to with. After independence, the President Riley Soto was sympathetic to the plight of the Mexicans, whose government had fallen apart and replaced by either state governments or drug cartels. Baja California was officially annexed in 2039, with the highways and traintracks expanded to include them, and the Baja Peninsula became a major source of solar power. China was the First Nation to recognize Californian independence and has since been a close partner in trade, commerce, and diplomacy. After shooting up in economic power to rival that of the USA (who was still messing about), California decided that Sonoran cartels were too much of a danger to commerce and citizens in Baja California. Therefore a military campaign, with new California-made weapons based around robotics and advanced long-range target assassination, plus several "super-suits", took place. Sonora was occupied, and to this day continues to be the setting for several fights.
Special Factors: Massive technology industry, China's support to do things, and near monopoly on Asia-America trade.
Code Word: I read the OP and can't find it... Is it 2055?
RP Sample: you so funny
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What I didn't copy paste why would I do that


Please lower the GDP, we need to keep that dystopian feeling. 6-7 would be fine
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:31 pm

Reserve Vietnam or Japan or if the US shattered New England
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:32 pm

New Rnclave wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote:It just doesn't seem realistic IMO. In fact, if Texas were to secede, they could support themselves rather easily, while Cali has water problems and is reliant on other states to keep going. If anything, it should be switched


No. No they couldn't support themselves. If Texas seceded, the USA would just invade them and secure it.

Hear me out for a moment; Hypothetically, if Texas broke away tomorrow, economically they would be just fine. And military wise, the government may order an invasion to retake it, but I would guess that only a fraction of Federal soldiers would actually obey their orders to shoot Americans. Sure, there would still be a lot following orders, and a long bloody war might be fought, and even if Texas fell, you'd have to deal with everyone and their brother with guns resisting the occupation.
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Pro: Mixed Market Economies, Education, Guns but with some common sense restrictions, UBI, Literally Actual Civil Rights
Neutral: Democrats, UN, NATO
Anti: Republicanism, Performative Allyship, Terrorism, North Korea, Trump, Clinton, Fascism, Authoritarianism in any form
Male, 18, Like a Hick, but also very Leftist
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33
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Postby New Rnclave » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:32 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Reserve Vietnam or Japan or if the US shattered New England


New England's independent :P The US lost Cali and New England, then kept the other states in by giving any state that wanted it, autonomy
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:33 pm

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The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Reserve Vietnam or Japan or if the US shattered New England


New England's independent :P The US lost Cali and New England, then kept the other states in by giving any state that wanted it, autonomy

So could I do a New England w/ New York and New Jersey?
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Postby New Rnclave » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:34 pm

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No. No they couldn't support themselves. If Texas seceded, the USA would just invade them and secure it.

Hear me out for a moment; Hypothetically, if Texas broke away tomorrow, economically they would be just fine. And military wise, the government may order an invasion to retake it, but I would guess that only a fraction of Federal soldiers would actually obey their orders to shoot Americans. Sure, there would still be a lot following orders, and a long bloody war might be fought, and even if Texas fell, you'd have to deal with everyone and their brother with guns resisting the occupation.


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Postby Australian Antarctica » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:34 pm

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The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Reserve Vietnam or Japan or if the US shattered New England


New England's independent :P The US lost Cali and New England, then kept the other states in by giving any state that wanted it, autonomy

Seriously? The one state that would most likely secede hasn't and other states that most likely wouldn't, have?
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Postby New Rnclave » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:35 pm

Australian Antarctica wrote:
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New England's independent :P The US lost Cali and New England, then kept the other states in by giving any state that wanted it, autonomy

Seriously? The one state that would most likely secede hasn't and other states that most likely wouldn't, have?


Texas won't break away, Texas would be immedietly crushed
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:36 pm

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Australian Antarctica wrote:Hear me out for a moment; Hypothetically, if Texas broke away tomorrow, economically they would be just fine. And military wise, the government may order an invasion to retake it, but I would guess that only a fraction of Federal soldiers would actually obey their orders to shoot Americans. Sure, there would still be a lot following orders, and a long bloody war might be fought, and even if Texas fell, you'd have to deal with everyone and their brother with guns resisting the occupation.


[url=http://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art/full-spectrum-operations-in-the-homeland-a-“vision”-of-the-future?page=1]No[/url]

Can you actually state facts instead of linking me to a source which won't even load?
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:37 pm

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Australian Antarctica wrote:Seriously? The one state that would most likely secede hasn't and other states that most likely wouldn't, have?


Texas won't break away, Texas would be immedietly crushed

That's what we said about Vietnam...and for that matter what the British said in both the revolution and war of 1812.
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Postby New Rnclave » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:38 pm

Australian Antarctica wrote:
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Texas won't break away, Texas would be immedietly crushed

That's what we said about Vietnam...and for that matter what the British said in both the revolution and war of 1812.


The British didn't use Full Spectrum Operations, or Cyber Warfare, or Stealth Bombers, Or advanced military technology
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:38 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
New Rnclave wrote:
New England's independent :P The US lost Cali and New England, then kept the other states in by giving any state that wanted it, autonomy

So could I do a New England w/ New York and New Jersey?
I'm really tired

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Postby New Rnclave » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:39 pm

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[url=http://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art/full-spectrum-operations-in-the-homeland-a-“vision”-of-the-future?page=1]No[/url]

Can you actually state facts instead of linking me to a source which won't even load?


Why a Rebellion in the US would fail
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Postby New Rnclave » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:40 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:So could I do a New England w/ New York and New Jersey?


No New York, Jersey is fine
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:40 pm

New Rnclave wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote:That's what we said about Vietnam...and for that matter what the British said in both the revolution and war of 1812.


The British didn't use Full Spectrum Operations, or Cyber Warfare, or Stealth Bombers, Or advanced military technology

Fine, explain to me why in the hell California and NE secede with no problem but Texas can't?
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