1850 : Alternative Divergence [AH][OOC][CLOSED]

[Fluvique]

Can I take some lands in west Canada?

[Eurasian Hegemony]

Hello back again... So here is my repaired land request for reservation

Italy and Switzerland, Malta , Crete North Egypt especially alexandria, Libya, and Tunisia,

Now is it okay if I have client states because if yes then there are two of them.

Kingdom of Jerusalem, Israel, Lebanon, and the Sinai Peninsula. And Renewed Nubian Kingdom, Northern Sudan.


And WIU holy shit in the whistle thing guy i played it at work and everyone came to investigate who i was murdering.

[Kosovo12345]

Hello back again... So here is my repaired land request for reservation

Italy and Switzerland, Malta , Crete North Egypt especially alexandria, Libya, and Tunisia,

Now is it okay if I have client states because if yes then there are two of them.

Kingdom of Jerusalem, Israel, Lebanon, and the Sinai Peninsula. And Renewed Nubian Kingdom, Northern Sudan.


And WIU holy shit in the whistle thing guy i played it at work and everyone came to investigate who i was murdering.

I i i have no words, most if not all of that is taken

[Oscalantine]

Hello back again... So here is my repaired land request for reservation

Italy and Switzerland, Malta , Crete North Egypt especially alexandria, Libya, and Tunisia,

Now is it okay if I have client states because if yes then there are two of them.

Kingdom of Jerusalem, Israel, Lebanon, and the Sinai Peninsula. And Renewed Nubian Kingdom, Northern Sudan.


And WIU holy shit in the whistle thing guy i played it at work and everyone came to investigate who i was murdering.

After I almost accepted your reserve, I got a angry TG/post from people in the region saying that your land claim was too much and that there is no way such an empire could exist. Plus... I have a bit of beef with claiming such lands so nonchalantly.

That being said... I think that your claim territory-wise isn't as much large as it cover radically sensitive areas. I'll break it down:

1) Client states: yes you can... no, because of guidance, you cannot. You have to be either Jewish and own the Israel as Israel or not at all. Same goes for Egypt, where you own the land as Middle East country or not at all. Tunisia is... well, same goes. The reason that other North African colonies exist are either because... a) they reserved before the guidance was done, and thus not needing to prove that they are Muslim or b) they are Muslim themselves.

2) Switzerland: I dunno what is the problem. Do Europeans NEED this region to be neutral? Either way... if you want them I am willing to give this to you against my better judgement, however, so it really doesn't matter.

The point being... no, you cannot have North African claims unless you ARE Muslim nation (or Jewish nation if you want Israel). However, I am willing to give you Sub Saharan African nations either as colonies or as client states. Since you mentioned something about Ethiopia, are you wiling to compensate your North African nations with parts of Ethiopia either as client states or colonies?

[Oscalantine]

Can I take some lands in west Canada?

You are actually the second person to come in to ask to take'em, and I think that other person has precedence ^^;;;

[Kosovo12345]

Hello back again... So here is my repaired land request for reservation

Italy and Switzerland, Malta , Crete North Egypt especially alexandria, Libya, and Tunisia,

Now is it okay if I have client states because if yes then there are two of them.

Kingdom of Jerusalem, Israel, Lebanon, and the Sinai Peninsula. And Renewed Nubian Kingdom, Northern Sudan.


And WIU holy shit in the whistle thing guy i played it at work and everyone came to investigate who i was murdering.

After I almost accepted your reserve, I got a angry TG/post from people in the region saying that your land claim was too much and that there is no way such an empire could exist. Plus... I have a bit of beef with claiming such lands so nonchalantly.

That being said... I think that your claim territory-wise isn't as much large as it cover radically sensitive areas. I'll break it down:

1) Client states: yes you can... no, because of guidance, you cannot. You have to be either Jewish and own the Israel as Israel or not at all. Same goes for Egypt, where you own the land as Middle East country or not at all. Tunisia is... well, same goes. The reason that other North African colonies exist are either because... a) they reserved before the guidance was done, and thus not needing to prove that they are Muslim or b) they are Muslim themselves.

2) Switzerland: I dunno what is the problem. Do Europeans NEED this region to be neutral? Either way... if you want them I am willing to give this to you against my better judgement, however, so it really doesn't matter.

The point being... no, you cannot have North African claims unless you ARE Muslim nation (or Jewish nation if you want Israel). However, I am willing to give you Sub Saharan African nations either as colonies or as client states. Since you mentioned something about Ethiopia, are you wiling to compensate your North African nations with parts of Ethiopia either as client states or colonies?

I would either allow them to have Italy+Swiss+Malta (only if he has an amazing history on how he took Swiss with all its mountains and its fiercely independent people) or Israel or Egypt with maybe the coastal lands of Libya and Tunisia.

[Oscalantine]

After I almost accepted your reserve, I got a angry TG/post from people in the region saying that your land claim was too much and that there is no way such an empire could exist. Plus... I have a bit of beef with claiming such lands so nonchalantly.

That being said... I think that your claim territory-wise isn't as much large as it cover radically sensitive areas. I'll break it down:

1) Client states: yes you can... no, because of guidance, you cannot. You have to be either Jewish and own the Israel as Israel or not at all. Same goes for Egypt, where you own the land as Middle East country or not at all. Tunisia is... well, same goes. The reason that other North African colonies exist are either because... a) they reserved before the guidance was done, and thus not needing to prove that they are Muslim or b) they are Muslim themselves.

2) Switzerland: I dunno what is the problem. Do Europeans NEED this region to be neutral? Either way... if you want them I am willing to give this to you against my better judgement, however, so it really doesn't matter.

The point being... no, you cannot have North African claims unless you ARE Muslim nation (or Jewish nation if you want Israel). However, I am willing to give you Sub Saharan African nations either as colonies or as client states. Since you mentioned something about Ethiopia, are you wiling to compensate your North African nations with parts of Ethiopia either as client states or colonies?

I would either allow them to have Italy+Swiss+Malta (only if he has an amazing history on how he took Swiss with all its mountains and its fiercely independent people) or Israel or Egypt with maybe the coastal lands of Libya and Tunisia.

I think that former is more likely. Mostly since due to recent guidance there is a HUGE restriction as to who can own any lands in North Africa to start off with. I may grey out that region so that people know what's up as well... hmmm...

whelp, regardless, if he wishes, I believe that horn of Africa region is not yet taken. Same goes for coastal regions of west africa. those are solid colonial takes.

Btw, Kosovo, you are friends with Quendi: when will his app be finished?

[Fluvique]

Can I take some lands in west Canada?

You are actually the second person to come in to ask to take'em, and I think that other person has precedence ^^;;;

What about Australia?

[Elerian]

You are actually the second person to come in to ask to take'em, and I think that other person has precedence ^^;;;

What about Australia?

The eastern coast is taken, but otherwise no.

[Fluvique]

The eastern coast is taken, but otherwise no.

I want to reserve West and South Australia, if it possible.

[Eurasian Hegemony]

After I almost accepted your reserve, I got a angry TG/post from people in the region saying that your land claim was too much and that there is no way such an empire could exist. Plus... I have a bit of beef with claiming such lands so nonchalantly.

That being said... I think that your claim territory-wise isn't as much large as it cover radically sensitive areas. I'll break it down:

1) Client states: yes you can... no, because of guidance, you cannot. You have to be either Jewish and own the Israel as Israel or not at all. Same goes for Egypt, where you own the land as Middle East country or not at all. Tunisia is... well, same goes. The reason that other North African colonies exist are either because... a) they reserved before the guidance was done, and thus not needing to prove that they are Muslim or b) they are Muslim themselves.

2) Switzerland: I dunno what is the problem. Do Europeans NEED this region to be neutral? Either way... if you want them I am willing to give this to you against my better judgement, however, so it really doesn't matter.

The point being... no, you cannot have North African claims unless you ARE Muslim nation (or Jewish nation if you want Israel). However, I am willing to give you Sub Saharan African nations either as colonies or as client states. Since you mentioned something about Ethiopia, are you wiling to compensate your North African nations with parts of Ethiopia either as client states or colonies?

I would either allow them to have Italy+Swiss+Malta (only if he has an amazing history on how he took Swiss with all its mountains and its fiercely independent people) or Israel or Egypt with maybe the coastal lands of Libya and Tunisia.

I apologize i mean the coastal lands of those two nations as some places such as alexandri in egypt were given over to christians by muslim conquerors (initially of course) however my history will say i have come to the aide of theses territories and protected what remained of christian territories and I indeed plan on a good reason Switzerland is part of the Nation and just a tid bit here but my history begins with the fall of western rome in the late 400s

Also i was just asking about israel, as long as it is out of muslim hands and christians can pilgrimage there. As for Sub saharan africa I seem to have mistyped i meant soutgern not northern modern sudan where nubia existed, a christian kingdom during the middle ages and i'll have it said in my history that they were defended so heatedly to keep yet another christian nation from falling.

[Cymrea]

The eastern coast is taken, but otherwise no.

I want to reserve West and South Australia, if it possible.

Australia is also included in accepted territorial claims.

[Oscalantine]

I want to reserve West and South Australia, if it possible.

Australia is also included in accepted territorial claims.

You are right. It isn't completely claimed, but unless Fluvique is playing as Australian natives, he cannot have colonial claims in a region he has no real reason to be in.

AND if he is a native, there is nothing stopping British from roftstomping them and taking their territories... with exception of that said Australian nation becoming allied/protectorate of another nation and westernizing.

I apologize i mean the coastal lands of those two nations as some places such as alexandri in egypt were given over to christians by muslim conquerors (initially of course) however my history will say i have come to the aide of theses territories and protected what remained of christian territories and I indeed plan on a good reason Switzerland is part of the Nation and just a tid bit here but my history begins with the fall of western rome in the late 400s

Also i was just asking about israel, as long as it is out of muslim hands and christians can pilgrimage there. As for Sub saharan africa I seem to have mistyped i meant soutgern not northern modern sudan where nubia existed, a christian kingdom during the middle ages and i'll have it said in my history that they were defended so heatedly to keep yet another christian nation from falling.

Err... I think we have been in this road before. I am terribly sorry, but the land is completely muslim, with very few pockets of Christiandom, if any. Again, you HAVE to be a muslim to own claims there. However, when you are accepted and in your first IC post you can invade these territories and add them in-RP: that way if any other countries want to come at its defense, they can go to war with you. Same goes for Israel.

Basically, I am sorry, but North Africa and Middle East region is off-limits to anyone who isn't abiding by the regional religion (Jew for Israel, Islam for everyone else). It is part of our history, and for the sake of Claven, who worked his hardest to do this with me, I cannot destroy that promise.

[Fluvique]

Well, let me know if no one takes Canada.

[Eurasian Hegemony]

Australia is also included in accepted territorial claims.

You are right. It isn't completely claimed, but unless Fluvique is playing as Australian natives, he cannot have colonial claims in a region he has no real reason to be in.

AND if he is a native, there is nothing stopping British from roftstomping them and taking their territories... with exception of that said Australian nation becoming allied/protectorate of another nation and westernizing.

I apologize i mean the coastal lands of those two nations as some places such as alexandri in egypt were given over to christians by muslim conquerors (initially of course) however my history will say i have come to the aide of theses territories and protected what remained of christian territories and I indeed plan on a good reason Switzerland is part of the Nation and just a tid bit here but my history begins with the fall of western rome in the late 400s

Also i was just asking about israel, as long as it is out of muslim hands and christians can pilgrimage there. As for Sub saharan africa I seem to have mistyped i meant soutgern not northern modern sudan where nubia existed, a christian kingdom during the middle ages and i'll have it said in my history that they were defended so heatedly to keep yet another christian nation from falling.

Err... I think we have been in this road before. I am terribly sorry, but the land is completely muslim, with very few pockets of Christiandom, if any. Again, you HAVE to be a muslim to own claims there. However, when you are accepted and in your first IC post you can invade these territories and add them in-RP: that way if any other countries want to come at its defense, they can go to war with you. Same goes for Israel.

Basically, I am sorry, but North Africa and Middle East region is off-limits to anyone who isn't abiding by the regional religion (Jew for Israel, Islam for everyone else). It is part of our history, and for the sake of Claven, who worked his hardest to do this with me, I cannot destroy that promise.

Allright you are the OP and while I would argue that I should be able to control alexandria in the least to avoid going against your final ruling I make my claim thusly

Italy, Switzerland, Malta, Crete, Ethiopia, Southern Sudan/ Nubian Client state hows this?

[Oscalantine]

Map updated~!!

... T^T sorry dude, I forgot Crimea again. I will remember next time, I promise!

[In Gentem Et De Libris Scientiam]

Couldn't you just add it now?

[Oscalantine]

Couldn't you just add it now?

Because I am a free person like that. No, I have derivatives to do, indifferentials to decrypt, and natural logs to fumble with. I will be here, though, so keep the OOC going for me.

Oh and as for Italy... I did what I was happy with. The color of your Peninsula is your reserve, so feel free to look around. As for client state... I am not too sure just yet, since that is too low in Heart of Africa. I think what will end up happening is that rest of Ethiopia will be your client state/protectorate, while you will need to conquer other African lands once Scramble for Africa begins.

[Benuty]

The moment you face an existential crisis trying to finish the damn history on your application.

[Eurasian Hegemony]

Couldn't you just add it now?

Because I am a free person like that. No, I have derivatives to do, indifferentials to decrypt, and natural logs to fumble with. I will be here, though, so keep the OOC going for me.

Oh and as for Italy... I did what I was happy with. The color of your Peninsula is your reserve, so feel free to look around. As for client state... I am not too sure just yet, since that is too low in Heart of Africa. I think what will end up happening is that rest of Ethiopia will be your client state/protectorate, while you will need to conquer other African lands once Scramble for Africa begins.

Thank you my good sir

[Oscalantine]

The moment you face an existential crisis trying to finish the damn history on your application.

Amen. That's the only part I have left as well.

Given, the moment I finish my app is the day that I am going to start getting up on everyone's business about their apps... and start erasing reserves. I know that few are very close to being done, but others... well... they haven't responded at all. So I am worried that they may have forgotten T^T

[Oscalantine]

Because I am a free person like that. No, I have derivatives to do, indifferentials to decrypt, and natural logs to fumble with. I will be here, though, so keep the OOC going for me.

Oh and as for Italy... I did what I was happy with. The color of your Peninsula is your reserve, so feel free to look around. As for client state... I am not too sure just yet, since that is too low in Heart of Africa. I think what will end up happening is that rest of Ethiopia will be your client state/protectorate, while you will need to conquer other African lands once Scramble for Africa begins.

Thank you my good sir

I am so glad that Catholic Italy could join us. Europe's Catholic population is SUPER low right now, with Protestant German whole, the only real catholics here are French, Brittany, and Belgium. If Italy fell to any other religion, things would have been radically different for us ^^

[Benuty]

The moment you face an existential crisis trying to finish the damn history on your application.

Amen. That's the only part I have left as well.

Given, the moment I finish my app is the day that I am going to start getting up on everyone's business about their apps... and start erasing reserves. I know that few are very close to being done, but others... well... they haven't responded at all. So I am worried that they may have forgotten T^T

Well what I may do is put paragraph summaries in because I still have eight areas of my history left blank.

Once I do that, and take a break for a day I will come back, and expand on each of the sections. That way if this roleplay ever gets rebooted by you or someone else I can just post the app again without having to do too much.

[Benuty]

I hope that sounds agreeable because I plan on posting the finished (albeit not fully expanded upon) product tonight.

[Tecomaia]

Can I RP as a legendary capitalist?