1850 : Alternative Divergence [AH][OOC][CLOSED]

[Second Helghan Empire]

I was thinking more a Panic of 1873 style financial crisis, but there could be a crop failure as well.

When do we reboot, mid-December?

Precisely but in 1855-1860

Approximately then we will pick it back up.

[Novacom]

So basically we now need to plan out the aftermath of the pirate events in each area? I'm liking the sound of that, a request though, can we have this recession happen before the event even if it's just a few months, and how would it be global?

SO Psyched for this!

Pirates stumble onto and deliberately propogate a crop-killing pest, affecting cotton or rice or coffee?

Less impactful as most of the colonial regions that produced these RL are in fact actual nations in this timeline so it would unfairly impact on some more than others, a bank run of sorts would work best it's just a case of deciding who would be so incompetent and bumbling to be the cause of such a thing, perhaps we could let Roma Invicta have it's moment back in the spotlight...

[Lenyo]

A bank run is best RP-wise, because it hurts the richest nations most. The Panic of 1873 was hands down France's worst depression of the 19th century: reparations to the German Empire, the bankruptcy of l'Union Générale, and then diseases destroyed the wine and silk industries. Naturally this combination of catastrophes caused French investment globally to disappear, pulling down the rest of the world into depression. If I can't have new buildings, you can't either!

[Second Helghan Empire]

A bank run is best RP-wise, because it hurts the richest nations most. The Panic of 1873 was hands down France's worst depression of the 19th century: reparations to the German Empire, the bankruptcy of l'Union Générale, and then diseases destroyed the wine and silk industries. Naturally this combination of catastrophes caused French investment globally to disappear, pulling down the rest of the world into depression. If I can't have new buildings, you can't either!

we could always blame it on the french yes!

But being as you and I are allies, really there is not similar thing to the Franco Prussian war. We could say that since myself and others gobbled up A few important nations such as the Netherlands and Belgium and several others, The fact that perhaps there was a shortage in production in those periods, just a stutter that caused a decline until reaching a breaking point when a rush on the banks occurred first across europe then within weeks across asia and the americas.

Just spitballing here I realize there are quite a few gaps in this one.

[Tracian Empire]

A bank run is best RP-wise, because it hurts the richest nations most. The Panic of 1873 was hands down France's worst depression of the 19th century: reparations to the German Empire, the bankruptcy of l'Union Générale, and then diseases destroyed the wine and silk industries. Naturally this combination of catastrophes caused French investment globally to disappear, pulling down the rest of the world into depression. If I can't have new buildings, you can't either!

we could always blame it on the french yes!

But being as you and I are allies, really there is not similar thing to the Franco Prussian war. We could say that since myself and others gobbled up A few important nations such as the Netherlands and Belgium and several others, The fact that perhaps there was a shortage in production in those periods, just a stutter that caused a decline until reaching a breaking point when a rush on the banks occurred first across europe then within weeks across asia and the americas.

Just spitballing here I realize there are quite a few gaps in this one.

Well, the Roman Empire is pretty isolated from the rest of Europe, both poth politically and economically, but it might also be affected by something like that.

[Second Helghan Empire]

we could always blame it on the french yes!

But being as you and I are allies, really there is not similar thing to the Franco Prussian war. We could say that since myself and others gobbled up A few important nations such as the Netherlands and Belgium and several others, The fact that perhaps there was a shortage in production in those periods, just a stutter that caused a decline until reaching a breaking point when a rush on the banks occurred first across europe then within weeks across asia and the americas.

Just spitballing here I realize there are quite a few gaps in this one.

Well, the Roman Empire is pretty isolated from the rest of Europe, both poth politically and economically, but it might also be affected by something like that.

The whole world would be, in fact rather than the whole gobbling up thing we could just blame it all on the pirate crises. Every nation would be affected,but nations who had manipulated others into doing the dirty work of taking on the pirates in their home turf could actually come out of this crises economically better off than going in. While some nations who focused nearly entirely on the pirate situation would have the same problem but end up on the other end.

[Lenyo]

A bank run is best RP-wise, because it hurts the richest nations most. The Panic of 1873 was hands down France's worst depression of the 19th century: reparations to the German Empire, the bankruptcy of l'Union Générale, and then diseases destroyed the wine and silk industries. Naturally this combination of catastrophes caused French investment globally to disappear, pulling down the rest of the world into depression. If I can't have new buildings, you can't either!

we could always blame it on the french yes!

But being as you and I are allies, really there is not similar thing to the Franco Prussian war. We could say that since myself and others gobbled up A few important nations such as the Netherlands and Belgium and several others, The fact that perhaps there was a shortage in production in those periods, just a stutter that caused a decline until reaching a breaking point when a rush on the banks occurred first across europe then within weeks across asia and the americas.

Just spitballing here I realize there are quite a few gaps in this one.

Historically the Long Depression was blamed on the Jews, but I'm RPing an idealized, less conservative France. Also since I'm no fan of Louis Napoleon, in this RP he drowned on February 27, 1848. There's a 0% chance of a Bonapartist movement in this RP. Though monarchists are always possible.

We've all RPed many wars. That's plenty of justification for a debt crisis in the RP.

[Novacom]

Well, the Roman Empire is pretty isolated from the rest of Europe, both poth politically and economically, but it might also be affected by something like that.

The whole world would be, in fact rather than the whole gobbling up thing we could just blame it all on the pirate crises. Every nation would be affected,but nations who had manipulated others into doing the dirty work of taking on the pirates in their home turf could actually come out of this crises economically better off than going in. While some nations who focused nearly entirely on the pirate situation would have the same problem but end up on the other end.

It depends how the spin went, it could actually be the other way round, those who actively acted against the pirates would suffer less as it would have stimulated their economy more meaning a crash would simply have eaten into the benefit from a war footing, as an aside it wouldn't affect some of us as much as it would others, as my trade with Europe was non existent beforehand thanks to pirates and after the pirate event was going to wrap up I had a series of reforms and upheavals planned one of which was currency, a bank run therefor wouldn't have as much impact during a currency change managed properly

[Cymrea]

I was thinking more a Panic of 1873 style financial crisis, but there could be a crop failure as well.

When do we reboot, mid-December?

Precisely but in 1855-1860

Approximately then we will pick it back up.

Nice. I'm still fully in.

[Lenyo]

Precisely but in 1855-1860

Approximately then we will pick it back up.

Nice. I'm still fully in.

Awesome. You should have the financial crisis be an impetus for the Chartists. This RP needs more republics, even if they're constitutional republics.

[New Rnclave]

Could I nab Louisiana for this new rp?

[Tracian Empire]

Nice. I'm still fully in.

Awesome. You should have the financial crisis be an impetus for the Chartists. This RP needs more republics, even if they're constitutional republics.

This RP needs more vassals of the glorious Roman Empire.

[Cymrea]

Nice. I'm still fully in.

Awesome. You should have the financial crisis be an impetus for the Chartists. This RP needs more republics, even if they're constitutional republics.

Looking at their original demands, most of those things are already in place, except that the Circle of Praefects takes a solid backseat to the Archons. I would definitely have something like it, where Cambria goes from a monarchy to one with a constitution and places a great deal more power into the hands of the peasant rabb---...er, I mean, people.

[Tracian Empire]

I've finally come up with a complete title for the Roman Emperor.

His Imperial Majesty, Julius II Paleologos, Emperor of the Romans by the Grace of God, Autocrat of all Romans, Despot of all the Lands of the Eternal Roman Empire, King of Greece, Asia Minor and Egypt, Duke of Thrace and Armenia, Augustus, Caesar, Princeps, Father of the Fatherland, Aegypticus, Accadicus, Defender of the One True Faith, Emperor of Emperors, Ruling Over Those Who Rule,

[Rygondria]

Huh,never thought i would see this again

[Cymrea]

I've finally come up with a complete title for the Roman Emperor.

His Imperial Majesty, Julius II Paleologos, Emperor of the Romans by the Grace of God, Autocrat of all Romans, Despot of all the Lands of the glorious Roman Empire, King of Greece, Asia Minor and Egypt, Duke of Thrace and Armenia, Augustus, Princeps, Father of the Fatherland, Defender of the One True Faith, Emperor of Emperors, Ruling Over Those Who Rule.

You need to do that up in Latin. Deus vult.

[Tracian Empire]

I've finally come up with a complete title for the Roman Emperor.

His Imperial Majesty, Julius II Paleologos, Emperor of the Romans by the Grace of God, Autocrat of all Romans, Despot of all the Lands of the glorious Roman Empire, King of Greece, Asia Minor and Egypt, Duke of Thrace and Armenia, Augustus, Princeps, Father of the Fatherland, Defender of the One True Faith, Emperor of Emperors, Ruling Over Those Who Rule.

You need to do that up in Latin. Deus vult.

I'm working on it. Unfortunately, I'm only a beginner at Latin, so it might take a while.

[Eurasian Hegemony]

I am ready and waiting for the fun start back in.

[Second Helghan Empire]

Could I nab Louisiana for this new rp?

no and it isn't new.

[Atramentar]

Could I nab Louisiana for this new rp?

Here's the latest map, Rn. Most of western USA is open, but it would be nice to get a creative nation idea for it. Or a republic of Texas...maybe Cascadia...

[Cabana]

I'll join the new RP

[Eurasian Hegemony]

I'll join the new RP

what new rp it is the same rp.

[Second Helghan Empire]

Could I nab Louisiana for this new rp?

Here's the latest map, Rn. Most of western USA is open, but it would be nice to get a creative nation idea for it. Or a republic of Texas...maybe Cascadia...

no it's not that has been reserved for american nation expansion

I'll join the new RP

what new rp it is the same rp.

thank you this guy is correct everyone!

[Atramentar]

Here's the latest map, Rn. Most of western USA is open, but it would be nice to get a creative nation idea for it. Or a republic of Texas...maybe Cascadia...

no it's not that has been reserved for american nation expansion

I like that idea, too. So that's what available in Murica, Rn.

[New Rnclave]

Here's the latest map, Rn. Most of western USA is open, but it would be nice to get a creative nation idea for it. Or a republic of Texas...maybe Cascadia...

no it's not that has been reserved for american nation expansion

what new rp it is the same rp.

thank you this guy is correct everyone!

Oh my god, they mean the reboot. Don't be a douche