1850 : Alternative Divergence [AH][OOC][CLOSED]

[Tracian Empire]

They are NPC's, with a part of their territory under the control of the pirates. Also, I will have to wait for the conference in Alexandria to end, thing that doesn't seem to be happening.

Agreed. It would be awesome if EA could get on that.

*hint* *nudge* *wink*

And all my other chances of expanding or colonization are stopped by AEGIS. Nice.

[Cymrea]

Agreed. It would be awesome if EA could get on that.

*hint* *nudge* *wink*

And all my other chances of expanding or colonization are stopped by AEGIS. Nice.

Akkadia is a sizeable chunk. By the time you finish campaigning for and digesting that, who knows what the political landscape will look like?

[Tracian Empire]

And all my other chances of expanding or colonization are stopped by AEGIS. Nice.

Akkadia is a sizeable chunk. By the time you finish campaigning for and digesting that, who knows what the political landscape will look like?

I can't do that until after the conference in Alexandria is finished.

[Kosovo12345]

russia can only take finland and baltic, maybe some asia but still

[Cymrea]

russia can only take finland and baltic, maybe some asia but still

As a reminder: I sent Russia a diplomatic missive on page 6, near the bottom.

[Second Helghan Empire]

Everyone is having colonies, while I can't even expand my lands in Europe. Poor Imperium.

Go east my roman friend into the riches of persia and central asia.

Plus you will soon hold as much africa as me.

[Tracian Empire]

Everyone is having colonies, while I can't even expand my lands in Europe. Poor Imperium.

Go east my roman friend into the riches of persia and central asia.

Plus you will soon hold as much africa as me.

But I want Rome. What is the Roman Empire without Rome? A mere shadow of its former glory.

[Cymrea]

Go east my roman friend into the riches of persia and central asia.

Plus you will soon hold as much africa as me.

But I want Rome. What is the Roman Empire without Rome? A mere shadow of its former glory.

Pulvis et umbra sumus. - Horatius

[Old Tyrannia]

Everyone is having colonies, while I can't even expand my lands in Europe. Poor Imperium.

Go east my roman friend into the riches of persia and central asia.

Plus you will soon hold as much africa as me.

Go east! Let Sharwoods take you there,
Go east! Their spices fill the air,
Go east! Chinese, Indian, Thai,
Go east! There's so much to try,
Go east!

[Cymrea]

Go east my roman friend into the riches of persia and central asia.

Plus you will soon hold as much africa as me.

Go east! Let Sharwoods take you there,
Go east! Their spices fill the air,
Go east! Chinese, Indian, Thai,
Go east! There's so much to try,
Go east!

Man, it's been too long since I heard the Pet Shop Boys....

[Tracian Empire]

But I want Rome. What is the Roman Empire without Rome? A mere shadow of its former glory.

Pulvis et umbra sumus. - Horatius

Why. Just why.

[Tracian Empire]

[Cymrea]

Pulvis et umbra sumus. - Horatius

Why. Just why.

You said Roman Empire without Rome is a shadow of its former glory. I'm reminding you of a Roman playwright who said we are all dust and a shadow. Seemed apropos. And funny.

That aside, the fact that any Roman Empire still exists is a win. More than that is frosting on the cupcake.

[Tracian Empire]

Why. Just why.

You said Roman Empire without Rome is a shadow of its former glory. I'm reminding you of a Roman playwright who said we are all dust and a shadow. Seemed apropos. And funny.

That aside, the fact that any Roman Empire still exists is a win. More than that is frosting on the cupcake.

Still exists, threatened by an Italian state who has forgotten its Roman origins. How ironic is that? The people from the initial province of the Empire, Italy, are now the Empire's greatest enemies.

[Second Helghan Empire]

Go east my roman friend into the riches of persia and central asia.

Plus you will soon hold as much africa as me.

But I want Rome. What is the Roman Empire without Rome? A mere shadow of its former glory.

Well to achieve that you must build strength.

[Novacom]

You said Roman Empire without Rome is a shadow of its former glory. I'm reminding you of a Roman playwright who said we are all dust and a shadow. Seemed apropos. And funny.

That aside, the fact that any Roman Empire still exists is a win. More than that is frosting on the cupcake.

Still exists, threatened by an Italian state who has forgotten its Roman origins. How ironic is that? The people from the initial province of the Empire, Italy, are now the Empire's greatest enemies.

But your the one in control of Troy though...

[Tracian Empire]

Still exists, threatened by an Italian state who has forgotten its Roman origins. How ironic is that? The people from the initial province of the Empire, Italy, are now the Empire's greatest enemies.

But your the one in control of Troy though...

Troy, and the City Who Never Fell, Constantinople. The Imperial New Rome never fell, and it will never fall. I should better say "Nova Roma Invicta"

[Cymrea]

You said Roman Empire without Rome is a shadow of its former glory. I'm reminding you of a Roman playwright who said we are all dust and a shadow. Seemed apropos. And funny.

That aside, the fact that any Roman Empire still exists is a win. More than that is frosting on the cupcake.

Still exists, threatened by an Italian state who has forgotten its Roman origins. How ironic is that? The people from the initial province of the Empire, Italy, are now the Empire's greatest enemies.

Admittedly, pretty damned ironic.

Nova Roma would be a great name change....

[Tracian Empire]

Still exists, threatened by an Italian state who has forgotten its Roman origins. How ironic is that? The people from the initial province of the Empire, Italy, are now the Empire's greatest enemies.

Admittedly, pretty damned ironic.

Nova Roma would be a great name change....

I'm thinking of officially changing the long and useless name of Constantinople to its original name, Nova Roma. The New Rome.

[Novacom]

Admittedly, pretty damned ironic.

Nova Roma would be a great name change....

I'm thinking of officially changing the long and useless name of Constantinople to its original name, Nova Roma. The New Rome.

Wouldn't that somewhat weaken your claim to ACTUAL Rome?

[Tracian Empire]

I'm thinking of officially changing the long and useless name of Constantinople to its original name, Nova Roma. The New Rome.

Wouldn't that somewhat weaken your claim to ACTUAL Rome?

Why? It is already known that that Constantinople, or the Eastern Rome, co-existed with Rome as the capital of the Empire from the establishment of the Tetrachy until the fall of the WRE. Changing my capital's name to something that actually contains the word Rome would strengthen my claim.

[Cymrea]

I'm thinking of officially changing the long and useless name of Constantinople to its original name, Nova Roma. The New Rome.

Wouldn't that somewhat weaken your claim to ACTUAL Rome?

If actual Rome looks like an unattainable goal, utilise domestic public relations to inform people as to why the old Rome is undesirable anyway, and why New Rome is superior. If you can't have it, make like you never wanted it.

[Tracian Empire]

Wouldn't that somewhat weaken your claim to ACTUAL Rome?

If actual Rome looks like an unattainable goal, utilise domestic public relations to inform people as to why the old Rome is undesirable anyway, and why New Rome is superior. If you can't have it, make like you never wanted it.

I still want it, and I will have it. Of course, besides from its symbolic value, Rome really is useless. Constantinople is bigger, richer, and easier to defend.

[Second Helghan Empire]

If actual Rome looks like an unattainable goal, utilise domestic public relations to inform people as to why the old Rome is undesirable anyway, and why New Rome is superior. If you can't have it, make like you never wanted it.

I still want it, and I will have it. Of course, besides from its symbolic value, Rome really is useless. Constantinople is bigger, richer, and easier to defend.

I just cant see you taking the most important city in christendom anytime soon.

[Tracian Empire]

I still want it, and I will have it. Of course, besides from its symbolic value, Rome really is useless. Constantinople is bigger, richer, and easier to defend.

I just cant see you taking the most important city in christendom anytime soon.

Patience my friend. Rome wasn't built in one day.