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Postby Peace Loving Warlords » Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:58 am

Flarbinia wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZnbELilvIs


Finally managed to get to a computer, now to state my full two cents on whats wrong with your last post.

Rules Violated/Disregard to Prior Posts

* You can't just randomly make a group of people out of thin air for your player character after having them approved. They need to be approved by the OP ahead of time, not just thrown in there for your own advantage.

* In your post you grabbed control of who I think is supposed to be Father Mackenzie and from what I've gathered from other OOC posts, in a prior revision of your post you had taken control of some of True Refuges characters. Both of these are a big no no as it violates the rules. Refuge has plans for his characters in Salida and I am currently collaborating with Grestin over a joint post that involves Mackenzie on the morning of the attack that should be coming out in the near future and we don't need people hijacking characters and creating a mess for us to clean up or drastically changing their personalities for little or no reason.

Its a different matter however if you wish to have character interaction between Dead-Eye and some other characters. That is to say you can have him interact with other player characters, but you can't control other player characters during these interactions. NPCs for the most part are free game as long as it doesn't violate the established cannon. Speaking of which...

* In your post you fabricated Salida's strategy as to rely on horsemen and archers while the vultures readied siege towers. This of course flies in the established cannon for both the Vultures and The Order,(the group in control of Salida at the moment since I'm not entirely sure you know what's been occurring up to this point in the story). Salida is heavily armed by post-apocalyptic standards with several areas that have been booby trapped with land mines and her troops are armed almost entirely with firearms. Salida's prior history as a central trading hub for much of Colorado granting the city assess to a plethora of supplies to defend itself with and to sustain itself over the winter, that's the main reason why the vultures want to capture it. Speaking of the Vultures, they are nowhere near as organized as Dead-eye claims they are, for Pete's sake their a bunch of murmuring bandits not King Arthur's knights of the round table.

* Don't put your words in characters mouths that aren't yours. I know this is more or less the same as the first point, but it annoys the living hell out of me when it happens so I feel I can't stress this point enough.

Constructive Criticisms

* Paragraph breaks are your friend. It makes your writing far more easy to understand by making it clear where one topic ends and another begins. Your post in its current state is just a big ball of words that's hard on the eyes.

* Don't be snarky to OP. Bad things happen when you're snarky to OP.

Final Verdict.

While everyone else seems to be of the mind that the post is just in need of a few snips of the editor's scissors, in its current state I feel that it not even salvageable. That is to say I feel that it would just be simpler to start a new post from scratch as apposed to stepping on everyone's toes at once like your old post has.

Now please don't interpret my admittedly rambling criteria of your work stop you from writing, or joining in this RP. I hold nothing against you as an author or Dead-Eye as an early character, I'm just going trying to keep the quality of this RP as high as its always been when compared to some of the other RP's that are on this site.

That is why I'm not going to accept your last post as cannon until it is either fixed for the above mentioned mistakes, or replaced with an entirely new post. Now I will gladly write a post that introduces Dead-Eye into Salida if you wish so that I can assure that no proverbial toes are indeed stepped on when he enters the city, though if you do wish for that to happen I will need to to get a heads up from you that is what you want me to do. We don't want multiple conflicting posts floating around you know?Anyways, good luck writing. I look forward to seeing what stories you and the others are creating.

As Always, Stay Peaceful. Stay Loving. Stay Warlords.
-PLW
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Postby Peace Loving Warlords » Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:00 am

True Refuge wrote:
Beiarusia wrote:Things got out of hand in the original story. Long story short there was a near nuclear exchange. That's why there are stiff rules in place now if only to keep any one group from becoming more powerful than it should be. As for his ten, I expect most to die during the siege. If not then I'll have to whip up something fun to kill all the extras.

Also Flab, the point is to always be the underdog. Nothing is supposed to be an easy trek towards victory. What's the fun in that.


Thanks for that. I'm still curious about what the Evictor did without my permission, even if it was deleted :)


Hey Refuge, Your last post has sections of it that repeat, Just thought I'd let you know so that you could correct it.

Peace!

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Postby Flarbinia » Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:20 am

Beiarusia wrote:
Flarbinia wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZnbELilvIs

Does it even matter? Vultures are not gonna change how they've been going about things just because you think it would make more sense otherwise.

I didn't say that. I posted the link because I wanted to remind you why the Salida militia are going to lose.

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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:25 am

Flarbinia wrote:
Beiarusia wrote:Does it even matter? Vultures are not gonna change how they've been going about things just because you think it would make more sense otherwise.

I didn't say that. I posted the link because I wanted to remind you why the Salida militia are going to lose.

You really think the Vultures have siege towers and catapults and battering rams?

This isn't a medieval RP.
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Postby Sarejo » Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:31 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Flarbinia wrote:I didn't say that. I posted the link because I wanted to remind you why the Salida militia are going to lose.

You really think the Vultures have siege towers and catapults and battering rams?

This isn't a medieval RP.


Lol that would be my area of the RP forum.
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Postby New Grestin » Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:45 am

Flarbinia wrote:
Beiarusia wrote:Does it even matter? Vultures are not gonna change how they've been going about things just because you think it would make more sense otherwise.

I didn't say that. I posted the link because I wanted to remind you why the Salida militia are going to lose.

Speaking as one of the primary players in the story right now, the battle is still very much up in the air, so to speak.

Also, my apologies folks. Wi-Fi was on the fritz and I've been having car troubles. I'll make sure to get a post up today.
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:48 am

New Grestin wrote:
Flarbinia wrote:I didn't say that. I posted the link because I wanted to remind you why the Salida militia are going to lose.

Speaking as one of the primary players in the story right now, the battle is still very much up in the air, so to speak.

Also, my apologies folks. Wi-Fi was on the fritz and I've been having car troubles. I'll make sure to get a post up today.

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Postby New Grestin » Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:51 am

Wallenburg wrote:
New Grestin wrote:Speaking as one of the primary players in the story right now, the battle is still very much up in the air, so to speak.

Also, my apologies folks. Wi-Fi was on the fritz and I've been having car troubles. I'll make sure to get a post up today.

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This is heavy, doc.
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Postby Flarbinia » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:01 am

Peace Loving Warlords wrote:* In your post you grabbed control of who I think is supposed to be Father Mackenzie and from what I've gathered from other OOC posts, in a prior revision of your post you had taken control of some of True Refuges characters. Both of these are a big no no as it violates the rules. Refuge has plans for his characters in Salida and I am currently collaborating with Grestin over a joint post that involves Mackenzie on the morning of the attack that should be coming out in the near future and we don't need people hijacking characters and creating a mess for us to clean up or drastically changing their personalities for little or no reason.

Its a different matter however if you wish to have character interaction between Dead-Eye and some other characters. That is to say you can have him interact with other player characters, but you can't control other player characters during these interactions. NPCs for the most part are free game as long as it doesn't violate the established cannon. Speaking of which...

* In your post you fabricated Salida's strategy as to rely on horsemen and archers while the vultures readied siege towers. This of course flies in the established cannon for both the Vultures and The Order,(the group in control of Salida at the moment since I'm not entirely sure you know what's been occurring up to this point in the story). Salida is heavily armed by post-apocalyptic standards with several areas that have been booby trapped with land mines and her troops are armed almost entirely with firearms. Salida's prior history as a central trading hub for much of Colorado granting the city assess to a plethora of supplies to defend itself with and to sustain itself over the winter, that's the main reason why the vultures want to capture it. Speaking of the Vultures, they are nowhere near as organized as Dead-eye claims they are, for Pete's sake their a bunch of murmuring bandits not King Arthur's knights of the round table.

The priest is a disciple of Father Mackenzie, not Father Mackenzie himself. The main problem I have with this thread is that everyone underestimates the Vultures. People who underestimate the enemy they are fighting tend to lose to that enemy. The enemy may not be using catapults and siege towers, but that is not an excuse to let your guard down. However, as far as my post is concerned, I recently edited out the parts you pointed out.
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Postby Sarejo » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:19 am

Flarbinia wrote:
Peace Loving Warlords wrote:* In your post you grabbed control of who I think is supposed to be Father Mackenzie and from what I've gathered from other OOC posts, in a prior revision of your post you had taken control of some of True Refuges characters. Both of these are a big no no as it violates the rules. Refuge has plans for his characters in Salida and I am currently collaborating with Grestin over a joint post that involves Mackenzie on the morning of the attack that should be coming out in the near future and we don't need people hijacking characters and creating a mess for us to clean up or drastically changing their personalities for little or no reason.

Its a different matter however if you wish to have character interaction between Dead-Eye and some other characters. That is to say you can have him interact with other player characters, but you can't control other player characters during these interactions. NPCs for the most part are free game as long as it doesn't violate the established cannon. Speaking of which...

* In your post you fabricated Salida's strategy as to rely on horsemen and archers while the vultures readied siege towers. This of course flies in the established cannon for both the Vultures and The Order,(the group in control of Salida at the moment since I'm not entirely sure you know what's been occurring up to this point in the story). Salida is heavily armed by post-apocalyptic standards with several areas that have been booby trapped with land mines and her troops are armed almost entirely with firearms. Salida's prior history as a central trading hub for much of Colorado granting the city assess to a plethora of supplies to defend itself with and to sustain itself over the winter, that's the main reason why the vultures want to capture it. Speaking of the Vultures, they are nowhere near as organized as Dead-eye claims they are, for Pete's sake their a bunch of murmuring bandits not King Arthur's knights of the round table.

The priest is a disciple of Father Mackenzie, not Father Mackenzie himself. The main problem I have with this thread is that everyone underestimates the Vultures. People who underestimate the enemy they are fighting tend to lose to that enemy. The enemy may not be using catapults and siege towers, but that is not an excuse to let your guard down. However, as far as my post is concerned, I recently edited out the parts you pointed out.


Trust me lad, we've been doing this a long time. We've got an established way of doing things, that some people might not prefer. But see, we like it, so we don't change.

In the words of a wise old man, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Cheers mates.

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Postby New Grestin » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:23 am

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Postby Partially Blind People » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:34 am

Is Tommy in the same place as Claire, Randy and Thomas were? Or a different set of cells?
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Postby New Grestin » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:36 am

Partially Blind People wrote:Is Tommy in the same place as Claire, Randy and Thomas were? Or a different set of cells?

He's under the church, last I checked. A dungeon of sorts.
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Postby Peace Loving Warlords » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:56 am

Partially Blind People wrote:Is Tommy in the same place as Claire, Randy and Thomas were? Or a different set of cells?

He's in a torture chamber under the church. Feel free to use the distraction of the Armory Explosion to have him escape while being tortured or something. Just remember that it took place early the following morning after the dinner.

On that note I'll get my counter posts up as soon as I'm out of class.

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Postby Peace Loving Warlords » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:59 am

New Grestin wrote:Posted.

Great post there bro. Mackenzie is going to flip his shit.

Its going to be glorious. XD

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Postby The United Federation of Terrans » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:21 am

Does Salida have anyplace a kin to a hotel for my character to use?
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:46 am

New Grestin wrote:Posted.

Did Claire take the keys?
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Postby Flarbinia » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:03 am

Peace Loving Warlords wrote:
New Grestin wrote:Posted.

Great post there bro. Mackenzie is going to flip his shit.

Its going to be glorious. XD

I edited my post. I hope you like it.

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Postby Peace Loving Warlords » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:06 am

Wallenburg wrote:
New Grestin wrote:Posted.

Did Claire take the keys?


I believe that was his intention, though I'll have Mackenzie deal with it in a moment to say the least.

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Postby Peace Loving Warlords » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:17 am

Flarbinia wrote:
Peace Loving Warlords wrote:Great post there bro. Mackenzie is going to flip his shit.

Its going to be glorious. XD

I edited my post. I hope you like it.


Its better I'll give you that, but Salida is currently being run from Father Mackenzie's Church near the center of town, and it is by far one of the most heavily guarded places within Salida's walls.

If you want to have him arrive outside the Jailhouse that would probably work more for what your working for. Now I would have said the church, but Mackenzie is certainly not going to be there or in any mood to talk with mercs looking for work. So the Town Sheriff, Jack Norman is probably going to be the guy your going to be running into if you plan on having someone to talk to, just be sure you leave it open for me to reply. I've been crafting him to be a bit different from Mackenzie as you may have seen from the previous posts here.

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Postby Peace Loving Warlords » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:38 am

"A Helping Hand" is posted and live!

While I know its not a direct response to the armory attack, I felt it was necessary to rap up events at the clinic so that they could catch up with current events.

Now to get to work on that response...

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Postby Flarbinia » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:55 pm

Peace Loving Warlords wrote:
Flarbinia wrote:I edited my post. I hope you like it.


Its better I'll give you that, but Salida is currently being run from Father Mackenzie's Church near the center of town, and it is by far one of the most heavily guarded places within Salida's walls.

If you want to have him arrive outside the Jailhouse that would probably work more for what your working for. Now I would have said the church, but Mackenzie is certainly not going to be there or in any mood to talk with mercs looking for work. So the Town Sheriff, Jack Norman is probably going to be the guy your going to be running into if you plan on having someone to talk to, just be sure you leave it open for me to reply. I've been crafting him to be a bit different from Mackenzie as you may have seen from the previous posts here.

I assumed the jailhouse was the makeshift headquarters.
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Postby Beiarusia » Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:09 pm

Peace Loving Warlords wrote:"A Helping Hand" is posted and live!

While I know its not a direct response to the armory attack, I felt it was necessary to rap up events at the clinic so that they could catch up with current events.

Now to get to work on that response...

Posted for Sera. If we're pushing ahead then don't feel obliged to respond.

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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:13 pm

Flarbinia wrote:
Peace Loving Warlords wrote:
Its better I'll give you that, but Salida is currently being run from Father Mackenzie's Church near the center of town, and it is by far one of the most heavily guarded places within Salida's walls.

If you want to have him arrive outside the Jailhouse that would probably work more for what your working for. Now I would have said the church, but Mackenzie is certainly not going to be there or in any mood to talk with mercs looking for work. So the Town Sheriff, Jack Norman is probably going to be the guy your going to be running into if you plan on having someone to talk to, just be sure you leave it open for me to reply. I've been crafting him to be a bit different from Mackenzie as you may have seen from the previous posts here.

I assumed the jailhouse was the makeshift headquarters.

No. It's just a jailhouse.
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Postby Flarbinia » Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:18 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Flarbinia wrote:I assumed the jailhouse was the makeshift headquarters.

No. It's just a jailhouse.

It looks like a makeshift jailhouse.

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