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Lunas Legion
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Postby Lunas Legion » Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:47 am

The New Lowlands wrote:
Elepis wrote:right, now that Franz is out of the way, time to make the Second Reich :twisted:

Thank you János Libényi

AUSTRIAN GENOCIDE 1K853


Seconded. Freedom for Hungary 1K853.
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Postby Jaslandia » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:01 am

Caltarania wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Um, I'll ask Calt about it for you.


Meherghh.

Just grow fancy food or some shit, you'd be able to sell the seeds and the produce to the natives and trade back fancy shit which you could then sell onto the British. IIRC that was basically what happened IRL.

Boers can't into diamonds? *looks dejected* Fine. Can I at least say my surveying team found some less valuable minerals like coal or iron?

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The New Lowlands wrote:AUSTRIAN GENOCIDE 1K853

GENOCIDE EVERYTHING.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74BzSTQCl_c
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Postby Elepis » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:15 am

Liecthenbourg wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:AUSTRIAN GENOCIDE 1K853

GENOCIDE EVERYTHING.


that escalated quickly
"Krugmar - Today at 10:00 PM
Not sure that'll work on Elepis considering he dislikes (from what I've observed):
A: Nationalism
B: Religion being taken seriously
C: The Irish"

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Postby Liecthenbourg » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:36 am

Elepis wrote:
Liecthenbourg wrote:GENOCIDE EVERYTHING.


that escalated quickly

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Postby The Union of Courland » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:40 am

So I presume Austria will not be helping me?
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Postby Elepis » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:42 am

The Union of Courland wrote:So I presume Austria will not be helping me?


I will, wait your turn. I have to have a funeral, a coronation and a conference first though.

I do want my lands back when we win.
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Not sure that'll work on Elepis considering he dislikes (from what I've observed):
A: Nationalism
B: Religion being taken seriously
C: The Irish"

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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:45 am

Elepis wrote:
The Union of Courland wrote:So I presume Austria will not be helping me?


I will, wait your turn. I have to have a funeral, a coronation and a conference first though.

I do want my lands back when we win.


You literally are not allowed to help him.

Do you understand how peace treaties work? And how economies work? You try and help the Pope, Austria collapses.

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Postby The Union of Courland » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:46 am

Elepis wrote:
The Union of Courland wrote:So I presume Austria will not be helping me?


I will, wait your turn. I have to have a funeral, a coronation and a conference first though.

I do want my lands back when we win.

Btw, I worked out a thing with Glitter. You'll have to wait. I'll tell you the plan that's not to be shared with Glitter over TG.
This is the law of the jungle,
As old and as true as the sky,
The wolf that shall keep it may prosper,
But the wolf that shall break it must die,
As the creeper that girdles the tree trunk,
The law runneth forwards and back,
For the strength of the pack is the wolf,
And the strength of a wolf is the pack.
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Postby Elepis » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:47 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Elepis wrote:
I will, wait your turn. I have to have a funeral, a coronation and a conference first though.

I do want my lands back when we win.


You literally are not allowed to help him.

Do you understand how peace treaties work? And how economies work? You try and help the Pope, Austria collapses.


How?
"Krugmar - Today at 10:00 PM
Not sure that'll work on Elepis considering he dislikes (from what I've observed):
A: Nationalism
B: Religion being taken seriously
C: The Irish"

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:48 am

Jaslandia wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
Meherghh.

Just grow fancy food or some shit, you'd be able to sell the seeds and the produce to the natives and trade back fancy shit which you could then sell onto the British. IIRC that was basically what happened IRL.

Boers can't into diamonds? *looks dejected* Fine. Can I at least say my surveying team found some less valuable minerals like coal or iron?

Liecthenbourg wrote:GENOCIDE EVERYTHING.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74BzSTQCl_c

Don't worry. Finding diamonds and gold was the worst thing to happen to the Boers. Ever.

For all other players: I hear of funerals. Could I send a delegation?
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Postby Elepis » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:49 am

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
Jaslandia wrote:Boers can't into diamonds? *looks dejected* Fine. Can I at least say my surveying team found some less valuable minerals like coal or iron?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74BzSTQCl_c

Don't worry. Finding diamonds and gold was the worst thing to happen to the Boers. Ever.

For all other players: I hear of funerals. Could I send a delegation?


sure
"Krugmar - Today at 10:00 PM
Not sure that'll work on Elepis considering he dislikes (from what I've observed):
A: Nationalism
B: Religion being taken seriously
C: The Irish"

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Postby Elepis » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:54 am

Elepis wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
You literally are not allowed to help him.

Do you understand how peace treaties work? And how economies work? You try and help the Pope, Austria collapses.


How?


Also, I have not yet decided fully, the Minister-President shall travel to Rome after all the funerals etc to talk to the Pope
"Krugmar - Today at 10:00 PM
Not sure that'll work on Elepis considering he dislikes (from what I've observed):
A: Nationalism
B: Religion being taken seriously
C: The Irish"

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Lunas Legion
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Lunas Legion » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:55 am

History should be le done.
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:57 am

Elepis wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
You literally are not allowed to help him.

Do you understand how peace treaties work? And how economies work? You try and help the Pope, Austria collapses.


How?


Have you ever played a gave of Europa Universallis IV? Victoria II? If you have, this explanation will make more sense.

Peace treaties tend to last more than a year and a half, if it has even been that long. Our war ended in 1851. We signed a peace treaty then. I told you before you even applied that Sardinia and France kicked your ass pretty hard. What does that mean? Your army is broken and suffering from a pretty severe loss. Your economy is suffering from the cost of losing a war and the subsequent valuable lands I took from you. You declare war on me and break the peace treaty, what happens? One, your stability flies out the window and no longer exists. What happens when stability in Austria goes away? All of the unhappy, angry minorities that live in everywhere but Austria revolt and the Austrian Empire collapses. Also, I doubt the Austrians can afford to pay for an all out war with the NCI and France, considering you just got rekt less than two years ago. Wars are expensive, they cost money and lives. You lost plenty of them.

That is just one penalty you face. The other? Well, do you know what infamy is? Breaking peace treaties not only causes you to lose stability, but also ruins your credibility as a nation. What does this mean? Every nation you have signed an alliance with, that borders you, or is in Europe/the region will hate you. Why? You have proven they cannot trust your word. You have also proven that you are willing to violate your word in order to expand your borders, and most people - especially your allies - don't like that.

For a war to happen between the NIC and Austria, I have to consent to it. I am not consenting to this war on these grounds. Why? It is unrealistic. My reasons for the lack of realism are above. Declaring war on me is pretty much fail rping as well. You applied for Austria with the knowledge of the situation as well. I literally told you that we cannot go to war with one another.

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Postby Elepis » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:01 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Elepis wrote:
How?


Have you ever played a gave of Europa Universallis IV? Victoria II? If you have, this explanation will make more sense.

Peace treaties tend to last more than a year and a half, if it has even been that long. Our war ended in 1851. We signed a peace treaty then. I told you before you even applied that Sardinia and France kicked your ass pretty hard. What does that mean? Your army is broken and suffering from a pretty severe loss. Your economy is suffering from the cost of losing a war and the subsequent valuable lands I took from you. You declare war on me and break the peace treaty, what happens? One, your stability flies out the window and no longer exists. What happens when stability in Austria goes away? All of the unhappy, angry minorities that live in everywhere but Austria revolt and the Austrian Empire collapses. Also, I doubt the Austrians can afford to pay for an all out war with the NCI and France, considering you just got rekt less than two years ago. Wars are expensive, they cost money and lives. You lost plenty of them.

That is just one penalty you face. The other? Well, do you know what infamy is? Breaking peace treaties not only causes you to lose stability, but also ruins your credibility as a nation. What does this mean? Every nation you have signed an alliance with, that borders you, or is in Europe/the region will hate you. Why? You have proven they cannot trust your word. You have also proven that you are willing to violate your word in order to expand your borders, and most people - especially your allies - don't like that.

For a war to happen between the NIC and Austria, I have to consent to it. I am not consenting to this war on these grounds. Why? It is unrealistic. My reasons for the lack of realism are above. Declaring war on me is pretty much fail rping as well. You applied for Austria with the knowledge of the situation as well. I literally told you that we cannot go to war with one another.


A) No, I have played some Total War games but that is it

B) I thought the war was in the mid 1840's, sorry

C) Peace treaties were broken quite a lot so I do not think that aspect would damage me but I do see your point about the economy etc. I am not ready for a lager war yet.

D) Sorry Popey, no war at the moment.
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"Krugmar - Today at 10:00 PM
Not sure that'll work on Elepis considering he dislikes (from what I've observed):
A: Nationalism
B: Religion being taken seriously
C: The Irish"

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Postby Liecthenbourg » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:05 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Elepis wrote:
How?


Have you ever played a gave of Europa Universallis IV? Victoria II? If you have, this explanation will make more sense.

Peace treaties tend to last more than a year and a half, if it has even been that long. Our war ended in 1851. We signed a peace treaty then. I told you before you even applied that Sardinia and France kicked your ass pretty hard. What does that mean? Your army is broken and suffering from a pretty severe loss. Your economy is suffering from the cost of losing a war and the subsequent valuable lands I took from you. You declare war on me and break the peace treaty, what happens? One, your stability flies out the window and no longer exists. What happens when stability in Austria goes away? All of the unhappy, angry minorities that live in everywhere but Austria revolt and the Austrian Empire collapses. Also, I doubt the Austrians can afford to pay for an all out war with the NCI and France, considering you just got rekt less than two years ago. Wars are expensive, they cost money and lives. You lost plenty of them.

That is just one penalty you face. The other? Well, do you know what infamy is? Breaking peace treaties not only causes you to lose stability, but also ruins your credibility as a nation. What does this mean? Every nation you have signed an alliance with, that borders you, or is in Europe/the region will hate you. Why? You have proven they cannot trust your word. You have also proven that you are willing to violate your word in order to expand your borders, and most people - especially your allies - don't like that.

For a war to happen between the NIC and Austria, I have to consent to it. I am not consenting to this war on these grounds. Why? It is unrealistic. My reasons for the lack of realism are above. Declaring war on me is pretty much fail rping as well. You applied for Austria with the knowledge of the situation as well. I literally told you that we cannot go to war with one another.

A total and complete agreement with the aforementioned points.

Any Austro-Italian wars are gonna have to wait.
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:07 am

As much as I'd really like to see Austria piss off everybody including the German minors, Glit is right.
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Postby Elepis » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:07 am

Liecthenbourg wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Have you ever played a gave of Europa Universallis IV? Victoria II? If you have, this explanation will make more sense.

Peace treaties tend to last more than a year and a half, if it has even been that long. Our war ended in 1851. We signed a peace treaty then. I told you before you even applied that Sardinia and France kicked your ass pretty hard. What does that mean? Your army is broken and suffering from a pretty severe loss. Your economy is suffering from the cost of losing a war and the subsequent valuable lands I took from you. You declare war on me and break the peace treaty, what happens? One, your stability flies out the window and no longer exists. What happens when stability in Austria goes away? All of the unhappy, angry minorities that live in everywhere but Austria revolt and the Austrian Empire collapses. Also, I doubt the Austrians can afford to pay for an all out war with the NCI and France, considering you just got rekt less than two years ago. Wars are expensive, they cost money and lives. You lost plenty of them.

That is just one penalty you face. The other? Well, do you know what infamy is? Breaking peace treaties not only causes you to lose stability, but also ruins your credibility as a nation. What does this mean? Every nation you have signed an alliance with, that borders you, or is in Europe/the region will hate you. Why? You have proven they cannot trust your word. You have also proven that you are willing to violate your word in order to expand your borders, and most people - especially your allies - don't like that.

For a war to happen between the NIC and Austria, I have to consent to it. I am not consenting to this war on these grounds. Why? It is unrealistic. My reasons for the lack of realism are above. Declaring war on me is pretty much fail rping as well. You applied for Austria with the knowledge of the situation as well. I literally told you that we cannot go to war with one another.

A total and complete agreement with the aforementioned points.

Any Austro-Italian wars are gonna have to wait.


I see that now too
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Not sure that'll work on Elepis considering he dislikes (from what I've observed):
A: Nationalism
B: Religion being taken seriously
C: The Irish"

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Postby The Union of Courland » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:12 am

Elepis wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Have you ever played a gave of Europa Universallis IV? Victoria II? If you have, this explanation will make more sense.

Peace treaties tend to last more than a year and a half, if it has even been that long. Our war ended in 1851. We signed a peace treaty then. I told you before you even applied that Sardinia and France kicked your ass pretty hard. What does that mean? Your army is broken and suffering from a pretty severe loss. Your economy is suffering from the cost of losing a war and the subsequent valuable lands I took from you. You declare war on me and break the peace treaty, what happens? One, your stability flies out the window and no longer exists. What happens when stability in Austria goes away? All of the unhappy, angry minorities that live in everywhere but Austria revolt and the Austrian Empire collapses. Also, I doubt the Austrians can afford to pay for an all out war with the NCI and France, considering you just got rekt less than two years ago. Wars are expensive, they cost money and lives. You lost plenty of them.

That is just one penalty you face. The other? Well, do you know what infamy is? Breaking peace treaties not only causes you to lose stability, but also ruins your credibility as a nation. What does this mean? Every nation you have signed an alliance with, that borders you, or is in Europe/the region will hate you. Why? You have proven they cannot trust your word. You have also proven that you are willing to violate your word in order to expand your borders, and most people - especially your allies - don't like that.

For a war to happen between the NIC and Austria, I have to consent to it. I am not consenting to this war on these grounds. Why? It is unrealistic. My reasons for the lack of realism are above. Declaring war on me is pretty much fail rping as well. You applied for Austria with the knowledge of the situation as well. I literally told you that we cannot go to war with one another.


A) No, I have played some Total War games but that is it

B) I thought the war was in the mid 1840's, sorry

C) Peace treaties were broken quite a lot so I do not think that aspect would damage me but I do see your point about the economy etc. I am not ready for a lager war yet.

D) Sorry Popey, no war at the moment.

Well duh. I wasn't planning to have a war right now. But there might be a conflict between me and North Italy the near future. Besides, Glit said that CNI is going to wait to invade Sicily, so that gives us enough time to rebuild our economies and armies.
This is the law of the jungle,
As old and as true as the sky,
The wolf that shall keep it may prosper,
But the wolf that shall break it must die,
As the creeper that girdles the tree trunk,
The law runneth forwards and back,
For the strength of the pack is the wolf,
And the strength of a wolf is the pack.
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Postby Baja California y Sonora » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:26 am

Liecthenbourg wrote:
Baja California y Sonora wrote:Was my App accepted?

Are you interested in trade with the Columbians?

I guess.

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Postby Elepis » Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:24 am

right, ferdi is dead, time to bring in some moderately liberal/modernizing reforms
"Krugmar - Today at 10:00 PM
Not sure that'll work on Elepis considering he dislikes (from what I've observed):
A: Nationalism
B: Religion being taken seriously
C: The Irish"

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:26 am

Elepis wrote:right, ferdi is dead, time to bring in some moderately liberal/modernizing reforms

That means FF is K.u.K. now, yes?
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The Kingdom of Glitter
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:28 am

Nu.
Franz Joseph's son did not commit suicide yet, so he would be Archduke.

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Postby Elepis » Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:29 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Nu.
Franz Joseph's son did not commit suicide yet, so he would be Archduke.


He was born in 1858, and it is quite hard to make an unborn cell Emperor of Austria
"Krugmar - Today at 10:00 PM
Not sure that'll work on Elepis considering he dislikes (from what I've observed):
A: Nationalism
B: Religion being taken seriously
C: The Irish"

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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:32 am

Elepis wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Nu.
Franz Joseph's son did not commit suicide yet, so he would be Archduke.


He was born in 1858, and it is quite hard to make an unborn cell Emperor of Austria


Oh damn lmfao.

So who did you have take over then? Like are they a real person?

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