Game of Thrones: Conquest [OOC Thread|AU|Closed]

[The Nuclear Fist]

Valloria, what's going on? Where do you want the Mountain and the Hound?

[Arnoria]

Valloria, what's going on? Where do you want the Mountain and the Hound?

I dont think we should call him the Mountain, his name is now Robert Strong, a Kingsguard to King Tommen Baratheon. He's not officially a member of House Clegane, since the Mountain is believed to be dead by the hand of Oberyn Martell, but he's under your control.

[Valloria]

Valloria, what's going on? Where do you want the Mountain and the Hound?

Okay. Right. I'm going to need the Hound with Lord Serrett commanding the armies about to rampage across the Riverlands and end the Brotherhood without Banners, among other brigand organizations resisting conscription at the moment. He will be invaluable to the battle structure there.

Robert Strong will serve as King Tommen's personal bodyguard for the duration of the upcoming battle. If we have to, smuggling Tommen out in Ser Robert's hands should be easy enough. The incoming Ironborn invasion will be difficult. Speaking of which, I'm going to shift gears - the rest of this post is directed towards Mesrane.

My previous post, detailing ship types, did not cover ship locations. Luckily for me, because of the new ships purchased as well as the raised men boarding them, all but eleven cogs are in Lannisport. That gives me 160 ships to work with. Victarion is established as a highly effective battle commander, perhaps outmatched only by Stannis' naval genius. Tywin is also an established general, but not of the likes of Victarion. While I don't expect to win this battle, I don't exactly want Casterly Rock taken, either. I think our navies are actually pretty evenly matched, at least, if all of your ships are longships. I did a LOT of research on ballistae, ships, etc. this evening and I'm confident in my numbers. I await further correspondence concerning your planned takeover of Lannisport.

[Mesrane]

Valloria, what's going on? Where do you want the Mountain and the Hound?

Okay. Right. I'm going to need the Hound with Lord Serrett commanding the armies about to rampage across the Riverlands and end the Brotherhood without Banners, among other brigand organizations resisting conscription at the moment. He will be invaluable to the battle structure there.

Robert Strong will serve as King Tommen's personal bodyguard for the duration of the upcoming battle. If we have to, smuggling Tommen out in Ser Robert's hands should be easy enough. The incoming Ironborn invasion will be difficult. Speaking of which, I'm going to shift gears - the rest of this post is directed towards Mesrane.

My previous post, detailing ship types, did not cover ship locations. Luckily for me, because of the new ships purchased as well as the raised men boarding them, all but eleven cogs are in Lannisport. That gives me 160 ships to work with. Victarion is established as a highly effective battle commander, perhaps outmatched only by Stannis' naval genius. Tywin is also an established general, but not of the likes of Victarion. While I don't expect to win this battle, I don't exactly want Casterly Rock taken, either. I think our navies are actually pretty evenly matched, at least, if all of your ships are longships. I did a LOT of research on ballistae, ships, etc. this evening and I'm confident in my numbers. I await further correspondence concerning your planned takeover of Lannisport.

So am I accepted?

I believe.

That's true enough.

Well, the Lannisters have a quite a few longships for coastal defense. And Tywin just brought five thousand men at his back to man the fifty new Braavosi war galleys he just bought, as well as the existing 121 (incl. longships) ships. That's 171 ships in total. Mes, are all of your ships longships? Are all five hundred ships sailing for Lannisport? We probably should plan this battle out. Since I have Tywin back at the Rock now, I have a playable character where the battle will take place.

As it stands, I have:
• 1 150 ft. 4.5 deck Dromond Flagship named The Roar with 2 large ballistae (1/2 T), 50 medium ballistae (1/4 T), 14 small ballistae (1/8 T), a ram, and two rear archer towers.
• 19 135 ft. 3 deck Dromond ships with 42 medium ballistae (1/4 T), 10 small ballistae (1/8 T), a ram, and a single rear archer tower.
• 50 125 ft. 2 deck War Galley ships with 18 medium ballistae (1/4 T), 22 small ballistae (1/8 T), and a ram.
• 10 110 ft. 1 deck Galley ships with 10 medium ballistae (1/4 T), 16 small ballistae (1/8 T), and a ram.
• 40 85 ft. 1 deck Longship ships with no armaments save for a ram.
• 3 80 ft. 4 deck Modified Carrack ships with 10 medium ballistae (1/4 T), 6 small ballistae (1/8 T) and an added ram. ((Experimental design, never been tested in battle.))
• 30 75 ft. 4 deck Carrack ships with no armaments save for archer stations and crenelations.
• 29 70 ft. 1 deck Cog ships with no armaments.

By the way, T stands for talent, the Roman equivalent of 26 kg.

Right now, I'm working on a map of Lannisport. Should be done soon.
^ Too hard and I'm too lazy.

Right, right, yes. Victarion is coming with 300 longships, not necessarily to penetrate Lannisport but to draw Tywin's fleet out of the port and into a battle. Every ship is an "Ironborn Longship" meaning they are significantly larger then your average longship and have larger crews as well. Probably a bit faster and slightly better built as well. Whether you want to give battle is another matter, because Victarion is not actually going to venture into the port, but his niece Asha will be arriving in two weeks with a further 160 ships.

It also depends on whether you'll be sending your fleet to its death in the hopes of taking down as many Ironborn as possible or if you will skirmish Victarion and then pull back. What you decide to do has a large bearing on how Victarion will then react.

If we pretend that what you will do is send your fleet straight at Victarion, then if we factor in Ironborn seamanship (rather large boost), Victarion's personal naval command skills, and a small boost to the Lannisters for their slight advantage in armor quality, etc, then in my opinion it comes out to what I would describe as a "moderate" Ironborn victory. Victarion fails to annihilate the fleet and loses a good sixty ships, but the Lannisters lose in the ballpark of ninety to a hundred before they break off the engagement. Again, if the Lannister fleet decides to fight to the end then I suppose Victarion does succeed, but at the cost of like a hundred ships. So not so fantastic a victory even if they win control of the sea about the Westerlands. Casualties will largely depend on how Tywin reacts to Victarion's bait. If he doesn't, there may not even be a battle. Just a lot of pillaging further north.

Also did you make Harys Swyft your fleet's commander? From what I know of him, he's a bit . . challenged when it comes to martial skill. Probably not the best guy to command. That ought to count for something as well.

Edit: Also, perhaps I had missed it, but I don't see where you purchased any war galleys (I don't think they are even on the market?) I see you bought some Braavosi galleys, but those I think are just regular galleys, and you only seem to have purchased ten of them.

Edit 2: Never mind, I had forgotten they came in groups of five. Still, I don't think they fall under war galleys, so I'm not sure how you have any of those in your possession. Galleons aren't around yet so I'm not sure what ship category the Braavosi ships are supposed to fall into. I would have assumed just regular galleys. Not disputing that you have 160 ships in Lannisport, but I don't know what category the Braavosi ships are supposed to fall under so I feel I must bring up the point.

Edit 3: I also wouldn't worry about Casterly Rock falling. It would require a truly catastrophic series of events for the Ironborn to actually accomplish that with their limited manpower. While I won't speculate on the course of the war, the worst possible aftermath of the battle is that Lannisport gets sacked, and even that will be difficult to accomplish.

[Valloria]

Okay. Right. I'm going to need the Hound with Lord Serrett commanding the armies about to rampage across the Riverlands and end the Brotherhood without Banners, among other brigand organizations resisting conscription at the moment. He will be invaluable to the battle structure there.

Robert Strong will serve as King Tommen's personal bodyguard for the duration of the upcoming battle. If we have to, smuggling Tommen out in Ser Robert's hands should be easy enough. The incoming Ironborn invasion will be difficult. Speaking of which, I'm going to shift gears - the rest of this post is directed towards Mesrane.

My previous post, detailing ship types, did not cover ship locations. Luckily for me, because of the new ships purchased as well as the raised men boarding them, all but eleven cogs are in Lannisport. That gives me 160 ships to work with. Victarion is established as a highly effective battle commander, perhaps outmatched only by Stannis' naval genius. Tywin is also an established general, but not of the likes of Victarion. While I don't expect to win this battle, I don't exactly want Casterly Rock taken, either. I think our navies are actually pretty evenly matched, at least, if all of your ships are longships. I did a LOT of research on ballistae, ships, etc. this evening and I'm confident in my numbers. I await further correspondence concerning your planned takeover of Lannisport.

I believe.

Well, the Lannisters have a quite a few longships for coastal defense. And Tywin just brought five thousand men at his back to man the fifty new Braavosi war galleys he just bought, as well as the existing 121 (incl. longships) ships. That's 171 ships in total. Mes, are all of your ships longships? Are all five hundred ships sailing for Lannisport? We probably should plan this battle out. Since I have Tywin back at the Rock now, I have a playable character where the battle will take place.

As it stands, I have:
• 1 150 ft. 4.5 deck Dromond Flagship named The Roar with 2 large ballistae (1/2 T), 50 medium ballistae (1/4 T), 14 small ballistae (1/8 T), a ram, and two rear archer towers.
• 19 135 ft. 3 deck Dromond ships with 42 medium ballistae (1/4 T), 10 small ballistae (1/8 T), a ram, and a single rear archer tower.
• 50 125 ft. 2 deck War Galley ships with 18 medium ballistae (1/4 T), 22 small ballistae (1/8 T), and a ram.
• 10 110 ft. 1 deck Galley ships with 10 medium ballistae (1/4 T), 16 small ballistae (1/8 T), and a ram.
• 40 85 ft. 1 deck Longship ships with no armaments save for a ram.
• 3 80 ft. 4 deck Modified Carrack ships with 10 medium ballistae (1/4 T), 6 small ballistae (1/8 T) and an added ram. ((Experimental design, never been tested in battle.))
• 30 75 ft. 4 deck Carrack ships with no armaments save for archer stations and crenelations.
• 29 70 ft. 1 deck Cog ships with no armaments.

By the way, T stands for talent, the Roman equivalent of 26 kg.

Right now, I'm working on a map of Lannisport. Should be done soon.
^ Too hard and I'm too lazy.

Right, right, yes. Victarion is coming with 300 longships, not necessarily to penetrate Lannisport but to draw Tywin's fleet out of the port and into a battle. Every ship is an "Ironborn Longship" meaning they are significantly larger then your average longship and have larger crews as well. Probably a bit faster and slightly better built as well. Whether you want to give battle is another matter, because Victarion is not actually going to venture into the port, but his niece Asha will be arriving in two weeks with a further 160 ships.

It also depends on whether you'll be sending your fleet to its death in the hopes of taking down as many Ironborn as possible or if you will skirmish Victarion and then pull back. What you decide to do has a large bearing on how Victarion will then react.

If we pretend that what you will do is send your fleet straight at Victarion, then if we factor in Ironborn seamanship (rather large boost), Victarion's personal naval command skills, and a small boost to the Lannisters for their slight advantage in armor quality, etc, then in my opinion it comes out to what I would describe as a "moderate" Ironborn victory. Victarion fails to annihilate the fleet and loses a good sixty ships, but the Lannisters lose in the ballpark of ninety to a hundred before they break off the engagement. Again, if the Lannister fleet decides to fight to the end then I suppose Victarion does succeed, but at the cost of like a hundred ships. So not so fantastic a victory even if they win control of the sea about the Westerlands. Casualties will largely depend on how Tywin reacts to Victarion's bait. If he doesn't, there may not even be a battle. Just a lot of pillaging further north.

Also did you make Harys Swyft your fleet's commander? From what I know of him, he's a bit . . challenged when it comes to martial skill. Probably not the best guy to command. That ought to count for something as well.

Edit: Also, perhaps I had missed it, but I don't see where you purchased any war galleys (I don't think they are even on the market?) I see you bought some Braavosi galleys, but those I think are just regular galleys, and you only seem to have purchased ten of them.

Edit 2: Never mind, I had forgotten they came in groups of five. Still, I don't think they fall under war galleys, so I'm not sure how you have any of those in your possession. Galleons aren't around yet so I'm not sure what ship category the Braavosi ships are supposed to fall into. I would have assumed just regular galleys. Not disputing that you have 160 ships in Lannisport, but I don't know what category the Braavosi ships are supposed to fall under so I feel I must bring up the point.

Edit 3: I also wouldn't worry about Casterly Rock falling. It would require a truly catastrophic series of events for the Ironborn to actually accomplish that with their limited manpower. While I won't speculate on the course of the war, the worst possible aftermath of the battle is that Lannisport gets sacked, and even that will be difficult to accomplish.

I believe it says in the market that they are war galleys, and if not, Arn made a post about it at some point. At least, I'm pretty sure. I'll find it when I get on my computer tomorrow. And I keep mixing up Lord Serrett and Swyft. Serrett will command the fleet. I thought I got that right in my post too. I'll correct that in the morning as well.

[Arnoria]

Braavosi Galleys are normal galleys, the next update in the market will contain a War Galley. Though the price will be very expensive, and by very expensive, I mean super expensive. I'm not sure to include Dromonds in the market since its very powerful and of course, expensive as well.

[Arnoria]

House Tyrell and House Martell are re-opened again. I've sent Yonwood and Albaie a warning message but they didnt response. So yeah, we have two Great Houses open.

[Arnoria]

Just for the info, these are the current ships in the Royal Fleet (Take note that this is not compromised of Redywne's fleet):

THREAT LEVEL: CRITICAL


1x Modified Dromond Flagship, known as "Valyria". 165 ft. long and propelled by sail only, with 4 decks, armed with 3 large ballistae, 45 medium ballistae, 15 small ballistae, and a ram. Also manned by eighty archers.

THREAT LEVEL: HIGH

10x War Galley, 120 ft. long, two-decked ship of three hundred oars and armed with 15 medium ballistae and 20 small ballistae, manned by sixty archers.

THREAT LEVEL: SUBSTANTIAL

50x Galley ships, 100 ft. long, two-decked ship of one hundred oars, and armed with 10 medium ballistae, 15 small ballistae, and a ram. Also manned by forty archers.

THREAT LEVEL: SUBSTANTIAL

150x Carrack ships, 70 ft. long, two-decked ship of sixty oars, armed with 1 medium ballistae, 2 small ballistae. Also manned by twenty archers.

THREAT LEVEL: MODERATE

150x Cog ships, 60 ft. long, two-decked ship of forty oars, with no armaments except a ram, and ten archers. Normally used as a light escort.

THREAT LEVEL: LOW

40x Modified Whalers, 45 ft. and propelled by sail only with 1 deck. Possess no armaments, except armed by fifteen archers.

[The Krogan]

Hows V gonna deal with Dany heading North?

[Arnoria]

Hows V gonna deal with Dany heading North?

Less distracted, more focused on the war. Though probably he will be a messed up King without her.

[The Nuclear Fist]

I hope Ser Robert Strong gets a chance to reveal himself to the world and split some people in half. Will Tommen be taking the field at any point?

[The Krogan]

Haha I just saw the comment's section on the first page.

[Kings Island]

So am I accepted?

I believe.

That's true enough.

Well, the Lannisters have a quite a few longships for coastal defense. And Tywin just brought five thousand men at his back to man the fifty new Braavosi war galleys he just bought, as well as the existing 121 (incl. longships) ships. That's 171 ships in total. Mes, are all of your ships longships? Are all five hundred ships sailing for Lannisport? We probably should plan this battle out. Since I have Tywin back at the Rock now, I have a playable character where the battle will take place.

As it stands, I have:
• 1 150 ft. 4.5 deck Dromond Flagship named The Roar with 2 large ballistae (1/2 T), 50 medium ballistae (1/4 T), 14 small ballistae (1/8 T), a ram, and two rear archer towers.
• 19 135 ft. 3 deck Dromond ships with 42 medium ballistae (1/4 T), 10 small ballistae (1/8 T), a ram, and a single rear archer tower.
• 50 125 ft. 2 deck War Galley ships with 18 medium ballistae (1/4 T), 22 small ballistae (1/8 T), and a ram.
• 10 110 ft. 1 deck Galley ships with 10 medium ballistae (1/4 T), 16 small ballistae (1/8 T), and a ram.
• 40 85 ft. 1 deck Longship ships with no armaments save for a ram.
• 3 80 ft. 4 deck Modified Carrack ships with 10 medium ballistae (1/4 T), 6 small ballistae (1/8 T) and an added ram. ((Experimental design, never been tested in battle.))
• 30 75 ft. 4 deck Carrack ships with no armaments save for archer stations and crenelations.
• 29 70 ft. 1 deck Cog ships with no armaments.

By the way, T stands for talent, the Roman equivalent of 26 kg.

Right now, I'm working on a map of Lannisport. Should be done soon.
^ Too hard and I'm too lazy.

The number of ballistae on those ships is absurdly high.

[Kings Island]

Braavosi Galleys are normal galleys, the next update in the market will contain a War Galley. Though the price will be very expensive, and by very expensive, I mean super expensive. I'm not sure to include Dromonds in the market since its very powerful and of course, expensive as well.

I already purchased 30 Braavosi war galleys... Can I keep them?

[Arnoria]

Braavosi Galleys are normal galleys, the next update in the market will contain a War Galley. Though the price will be very expensive, and by very expensive, I mean super expensive. I'm not sure to include Dromonds in the market since its very powerful and of course, expensive as well.

I already purchased 30 Braavosi war galleys... Can I keep them?

For troops, they are still in training. For ships, they are still in construction. So yes, you can keep them, but cant use them before Month Two pass.

[Arnoria]

I hope Ser Robert Strong gets a chance to reveal himself to the world and split some people in half. Will Tommen be taking the field at any point?

And he will, though as a Kingsguard, his place is beside the King. Ser Robert cant speak though, or go to the toilet either Valloria can roleplay Tommen and train him in the art of sword fighting, but probably no, he never enjoy violence or killing people.

[Kings Island]

I already purchased 30 Braavosi war galleys... Can I keep them?

For troops, they are still in training. For ships, they are still in construction. So yes, you can keep them, but cant use them before Month Two pass.

Okay, but I was referring to the galleys I bought last month as well.

[Arnoria]

For troops, they are still in training. For ships, they are still in construction. So yes, you can keep them, but cant use them before Month Two pass.

Okay, but I was referring to the galleys I bought last month as well.

The ships you bought last month are all complete and ready to use.

[Kings Island]

Okay, but I was referring to the galleys I bought last month as well.

The ships you bought last month are all complete and ready to use.

Thanks for clarifying. With that in mind, I'll finish my post!

[Arnoria]

The ships you bought last month are all complete and ready to use.

Thanks for clarifying. With that in mind, I'll finish my post!

Can you please change the opening in your last post? Thanks, here's the code, just copy paste it:

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[align=center][b][size=110]Stannis Baratheon[/size]
[i]The first of his name, Azor Ahai Reborn, King of the Andals, and of the Rhoynar, and of the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm[/i]
Shipbreaker Bay[/b][/align]

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[align=center][b][size=110]Stannis Baratheon[/size]
[i]The first of his name, Azor Ahai Reborn, King of the Andals, and of the Rhoynar, and of the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm[/i]
Small Council Chamber, Storm’s End, Stormlands[/b][/align]

[Valloria]

I believe.

Well, the Lannisters have a quite a few longships for coastal defense. And Tywin just brought five thousand men at his back to man the fifty new Braavosi war galleys he just bought, as well as the existing 121 (incl. longships) ships. That's 171 ships in total. Mes, are all of your ships longships? Are all five hundred ships sailing for Lannisport? We probably should plan this battle out. Since I have Tywin back at the Rock now, I have a playable character where the battle will take place.

As it stands, I have:
• 1 150 ft. 4.5 deck Dromond Flagship named The Roar with 2 large ballistae (1/2 T), 50 medium ballistae (1/4 T), 14 small ballistae (1/8 T), a ram, and two rear archer towers.
• 19 135 ft. 3 deck Dromond ships with 42 medium ballistae (1/4 T), 10 small ballistae (1/8 T), a ram, and a single rear archer tower.
• 50 125 ft. 2 deck War Galley ships with 18 medium ballistae (1/4 T), 22 small ballistae (1/8 T), and a ram.
• 10 110 ft. 1 deck Galley ships with 10 medium ballistae (1/4 T), 16 small ballistae (1/8 T), and a ram.
• 40 85 ft. 1 deck Longship ships with no armaments save for a ram.
• 3 80 ft. 4 deck Modified Carrack ships with 10 medium ballistae (1/4 T), 6 small ballistae (1/8 T) and an added ram. ((Experimental design, never been tested in battle.))
• 30 75 ft. 4 deck Carrack ships with no armaments save for archer stations and crenelations.
• 29 70 ft. 1 deck Cog ships with no armaments.

By the way, T stands for talent, the Roman equivalent of 26 kg.

Right now, I'm working on a map of Lannisport. Should be done soon.
^ Too hard and I'm too lazy.

The number of ballistae on those ships is absurdly high.

Not when you consider their size and their location. The Roar has two main decks, both of which are oar decks. It then has a one level forecastle and a two level rear tower. This gives space for 35 medium ballistae on the main deck (including those inside the enclosed forecastle and the first level of the rear tower, and fifteen medium ballistae on the roof of the forecastle and inside the enclosed second level rear tower. The small ballistae are interspersed on various parts of the ship, and the huge large ballistae are mounted one each at the bow and the aft.

[Arnoria]

This is getting rather annoying, I've sent an edited version of Yonwood's work and told him to copy paste it, he didnt reply anything, even when I saw him online. Its not bad or anything, but its the second post in our IC Thread, and the colors are distracting and the writings still raw. And I have no idea on who is Ellira Sand, if he meant Ellaria Sand, well I understand, but Ellaria Sand is not a Sand Snake. I've posted a new rule for posting, please read it in the IC Thread. And please change the Order section of your post in the second page to Infrastructure/Market of Month 2 if you still write Month 1. Ignore the content of this message and the IC Rule, you will be given a Warning Telegram. Thank you all for your understanding and cooperation.

[Kings Island]

Thanks for clarifying. With that in mind, I'll finish my post!

Can you please change the opening in your last post? Thanks, here's the code, just copy paste it:

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[align=center][b][size=110]Stannis Baratheon[/size]
[i]The first of his name, Azor Ahai Reborn, King of the Andals, and of the Rhoynar, and of the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm[/i]
Shipbreaker Bay[/b][/align]

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[align=center][b][size=110]Stannis Baratheon[/size]
[i]The first of his name, Azor Ahai Reborn, King of the Andals, and of the Rhoynar, and of the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm[/i]
Small Council Chamber, Storm’s End, Stormlands[/b][/align]

Done.

[Kings Island]

The number of ballistae on those ships is absurdly high.

Not when you consider their size and their location. The Roar has two main decks, both of which are oar decks. It then has a one level forecastle and a two level rear tower. This gives space for 35 medium ballistae on the main deck (including those inside the enclosed forecastle and the first level of the rear tower, and fifteen medium ballistae on the roof of the forecastle and inside the enclosed second level rear tower. The small ballistae are interspersed on various parts of the ship, and the huge large ballistae are mounted one each at the bow and the aft.

I suppose that makes sense, but where are those fleet numbers coming from? 19 dromonds? The entire royal fleet Cersei built had only 10. To my knowledge, the Lannister fleet is only of moderate size.

[Arnoria]

Not when you consider their size and their location. The Roar has two main decks, both of which are oar decks. It then has a one level forecastle and a two level rear tower. This gives space for 35 medium ballistae on the main deck (including those inside the enclosed forecastle and the first level of the rear tower, and fifteen medium ballistae on the roof of the forecastle and inside the enclosed second level rear tower. The small ballistae are interspersed on various parts of the ship, and the huge large ballistae are mounted one each at the bow and the aft.

I suppose that makes sense, but where are those fleet numbers coming from? 19 dromonds? The entire royal fleet Cersei built had only 10. To my knowledge, the Lannister fleet is only of moderate size.

As Littlefinger once said, a lot can happen between now and never, with Tywin alive and House Lannister still in possession of great wealth, building an additional 9 dromonds for the Lannister fleet is very possible.