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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:53 am

The New Greek Republic wrote:
The Peoples East Africa wrote:The economies in 1900 would be very different to nowadays. You could probably divide each of those numbers by 10,000 and just have a ranking of 1 to 25.


Fair enough, so here's the formula I came up with.

(POP-WPOP/M)
{[(GDP+YGR)•ITa]/CoL)}•I (RD/RS)


GDP - Gross Domestic Product
M - Military
RD - Resource Demand
RS - Resource Supply
I - Inflation
POP - Population
WPOP - Working Population
CoL- Cost of Living
Ta - National Tax Rate
YGR - Yearly Growth Rate

It looks very mathematical. How did you come up with it, or did you just put things together until a good result came out?

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Postby The New Greek Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:56 am

The Peoples East Africa wrote:It looks very mathematical. How did you come up with it, or did you just put things together until a good result came out?


I took various economic factors and put them wherever it looked like it belonged :p tbh we could just scale all of the categories of a 1-10 for simplicity
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The Peoples East Africa
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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:58 am

The New Greek Republic wrote:
The Peoples East Africa wrote:It looks very mathematical. How did you come up with it, or did you just put things together until a good result came out?


I took various economic factors and put them wherever it looked like it belonged :p tbh we could just scale all of the categories of a 1-10 for simplicity

I guess we could.
Why is the GDP being added to the YGR? Wouldn't they be multiplied to find what next years GDP would be?

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Postby The New Greek Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:11 am

The Peoples East Africa wrote:
The New Greek Republic wrote:
I took various economic factors and put them wherever it looked like it belonged :p tbh we could just scale all of the categories of a 1-10 for simplicity

I guess we could.
Why is the GDP being added to the YGR? Wouldn't they be multiplied to find what next years GDP would be?


Oh yeah that's right :p
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The Peoples East Africa
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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:15 am

The New Greek Republic wrote:
The Peoples East Africa wrote:I guess we could.
Why is the GDP being added to the YGR? Wouldn't they be multiplied to find what next years GDP would be?


Oh yeah that's right :p

Maybe it does need a bit more tweaking.

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The New Greek Republic
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Postby The New Greek Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:17 am

The Peoples East Africa wrote:
The New Greek Republic wrote:
Oh yeah that's right :p

Maybe it does need a bit more tweaking.

Suggestions?
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The Peoples East Africa
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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:19 am

The New Greek Republic wrote:
The Peoples East Africa wrote:Maybe it does need a bit more tweaking.

Suggestions?

Off the top of my head, if you multiplied the whole thing by (RS/RD) then it would give you a better rating if you can supply your economy.

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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:20 am

Would military be considered part of the working pop?

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Postby The New Greek Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:23 am

The Peoples East Africa wrote:
The New Greek Republic wrote:Suggestions?

Off the top of my head, if you multiplied the whole thing by (RS/RD) then it would give you a better rating if you can supply your economy.


Would the (RS/RS) remain in the initial formula then multiplied or removed and multiplied?

The Peoples East Africa wrote:Would military be considered part of the working pop?


It could be but i think military needs to be a separate entity
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-\\|-o--.-`----`\\---
--\\-_-o---O----|
---(---o---.-`--
__`.____/___/_/
What's red and bad for your teeth?

A brick.
Sanabel wrote: I control the Holy See with its transvestite pope who identifies as an ogre.

Just warning you, your ears will have orgasms.

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The Peoples East Africa
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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:24 am

The New Greek Republic wrote:
The Peoples East Africa wrote:Off the top of my head, if you multiplied the whole thing by (RS/RD) then it would give you a better rating if you can supply your economy.


Would the (RS/RS) remain in the initial formula then multiplied or removed and multiplied?

The Peoples East Africa wrote:Would military be considered part of the working pop?


It could be but i think military needs to be a separate entity

I think (RS/RD) would be removed, then multiplied. It would cancel itself out if you left it in.

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The Peoples East Africa
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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:28 am

Maybe you should move the GDP calculation somewhere else. From the looks of the formula, the bigger your GDP, the smaller your economic rating.

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Postby The New Greek Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:31 am

The Peoples East Africa wrote:Maybe you should move the GDP calculation somewhere else. From the looks of the formula, the bigger your GDP, the smaller your economic rating.


Where else could it be moved?

Also, what about the scaling everything thing?
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----/-o----\\---- ___/
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---(---o---.-`--
__`.____/___/_/
What's red and bad for your teeth?

A brick.
Sanabel wrote: I control the Holy See with its transvestite pope who identifies as an ogre.

Just warning you, your ears will have orgasms.

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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:31 am

The top line should include a + 1 to the M, because if someone decides to have no military, it messes everything up.

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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:34 am

The New Greek Republic wrote:
The Peoples East Africa wrote:Maybe you should move the GDP calculation somewhere else. From the looks of the formula, the bigger your GDP, the smaller your economic rating.


Where else could it be moved?

Also, what about the scaling everything thing?

If you divided 1 by the new GDP ranking, it would have the opposite effect and cause the economic ranking to grow the bigger the GDP gets.
If we try these new things, and see what results we get, then we can decide how to scale it.
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Postby The New Greek Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:39 am

So the new formula would look like

(POP-WPOP/M + 1)
{[(1/GDP)+YGR)•ITa]/CoL •I}

Product • (RD/RS) correct?
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-----/---o\\--(0-----O
----/-o----\\---- ___/
----|----O--|-----\\)
---`,o---_/--o .--`------
-----`"`;-O--(---------
--------/--.--""``\\\\----
------.`-O------.\\,,||
----.`------""`|-`""`----
|\\-/--O--o---__|------
-\\|-o--.-`----`\\---
--\\-_-o---O----|
---(---o---.-`--
__`.____/___/_/
What's red and bad for your teeth?

A brick.
Sanabel wrote: I control the Holy See with its transvestite pope who identifies as an ogre.

Just warning you, your ears will have orgasms.

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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:41 am

The New Greek Republic wrote:So the new formula would look like

(POP-WPOP/M + 1)
{[(1/GDP)+YGR)•ITa]/CoL •I}

Product • (RD/RS) correct?

Multiply GDP by YGR, then put it under 1. What form is YGR in? Percentage or decimal?
Last edited by The Peoples East Africa on Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:41 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Postby The New Greek Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:45 am

The Peoples East Africa wrote:
The New Greek Republic wrote:So the new formula would look like

(POP-WPOP/M + 1)
{[(1/GDP)+YGR)•ITa]/CoL •I}

Product • (RD/RS) correct?

Multiply GDP by YGR, then put it under 1. What form is YGR in? Percentage or decimal?


Percentage
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-\\|-o--.-`----`\\---
--\\-_-o---O----|
---(---o---.-`--
__`.____/___/_/
What's red and bad for your teeth?

A brick.
Sanabel wrote: I control the Holy See with its transvestite pope who identifies as an ogre.

Just warning you, your ears will have orgasms.

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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:46 am

The New Greek Republic wrote:
The Peoples East Africa wrote:Multiply GDP by YGR, then put it under 1. What form is YGR in? Percentage or decimal?


Percentage

I messed up then since I thought it was a decimal. You can just add GDP to YGR to get the next years GDP.

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Postby The New Greek Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:59 am

The Peoples East Africa wrote:
The New Greek Republic wrote:
Percentage

I messed up then since I thought it was a decimal. You can just add GDP to YGR to get the next years GDP.

Used the same numbers for the adjust model, I got 6.6 this time around
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------,`=.-o---`\\___
-----/---o\\--(0-----O
----/-o----\\---- ___/
----|----O--|-----\\)
---`,o---_/--o .--`------
-----`"`;-O--(---------
--------/--.--""``\\\\----
------.`-O------.\\,,||
----.`------""`|-`""`----
|\\-/--O--o---__|------
-\\|-o--.-`----`\\---
--\\-_-o---O----|
---(---o---.-`--
__`.____/___/_/
What's red and bad for your teeth?

A brick.
Sanabel wrote: I control the Holy See with its transvestite pope who identifies as an ogre.

Just warning you, your ears will have orgasms.

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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:00 pm

What are you guys talking about..
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Postby The New Greek Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:04 pm

Soviet Chernarus wrote:What are you guys talking about..

Mathematics and Economics
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---(---o---.-`--
__`.____/___/_/
What's red and bad for your teeth?

A brick.
Sanabel wrote: I control the Holy See with its transvestite pope who identifies as an ogre.

Just warning you, your ears will have orgasms.

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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:07 pm

The New Greek Republic wrote:
The Peoples East Africa wrote:I messed up then since I thought it was a decimal. You can just add GDP to YGR to get the next years GDP.

Used the same numbers for the adjust model, I got 6.6 this time around

That's certainly smaller. Perhaps multiplying by 10 to get a value out of 100 could be an idea. It doesn't change anything, but makes it sound good.
What country did you use?

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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:08 pm

Soviet Chernarus wrote:What are you guys talking about..

We're using mathematics to create an economic formula to quadruple the amazing of this RP.

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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:09 pm

The Peoples East Africa wrote:
Soviet Chernarus wrote:What are you guys talking about..

We're using mathematics to create an economic formula to quadruple the amazing of this RP.

Oh...still don't know what you guys are doing. I suck at math :(
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Postby The New Greek Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:11 pm

The Peoples East Africa wrote:Used the same numbers for the adjust model, I got 6.6 this time around

That's certainly smaller. Perhaps multiplying by 10 to get a value out of 100 could be an idea. It doesn't change anything, but makes it sound good.
What country did you use?[/quote]

I didn't use any one country, rather collected data from countries like Russia and Japan to give it a unique
I guess I should use one country like America or China to check the accuracy?
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------,`=.-o---`\\___
-----/---o\\--(0-----O
----/-o----\\---- ___/
----|----O--|-----\\)
---`,o---_/--o .--`------
-----`"`;-O--(---------
--------/--.--""``\\\\----
------.`-O------.\\,,||
----.`------""`|-`""`----
|\\-/--O--o---__|------
-\\|-o--.-`----`\\---
--\\-_-o---O----|
---(---o---.-`--
__`.____/___/_/
What's red and bad for your teeth?

A brick.
Sanabel wrote: I control the Holy See with its transvestite pope who identifies as an ogre.

Just warning you, your ears will have orgasms.

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