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The IC is finally up! Are you happy?

Oh yes amazingly
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Yes
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No eww
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Suekiva
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Postby Suekiva » Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:55 am

Sanabel wrote:
Suekiva wrote:Yeah, I don't think the Persian Navy is going to be a major factor in this conflict, unless they can pull off a victory over the Dutch and Ottoman Gulf fleets before everybody else gets there.

What is your opinion on the quality of Persian and Ottoman troops vs German and Dutch?

No idea, but I'd expect Western European troops to be much better trained, organized, and equipped.

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Postby Suekiva » Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:19 am

I've looked through a lot of the pre and early WWI bombers and almost all have a range of 400 km or less. Since the Iraq-Persian border in this RP seems to be farther along than IRL, Kosovo's planes aren't even going to reach Persia from his airfield, let alone the Gulf or Persian ports.

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Postby The New Greek Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:21 am

If we could get a far more active France and Britain that'd be greaaatt
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Postby Suekiva » Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:22 am

The New Greek Republic wrote:If we could get a far more active France and Britain that'd be greaaatt

If anybody else on the British Isles were to come back, that'd be nice too.

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Postby The New Greek Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:24 am

Suekiva wrote:
The New Greek Republic wrote:If we could get a far more active France and Britain that'd be greaaatt

If anybody else on the British Isles were to come back, that'd be nice too.


I don't even think I've seen any of them post
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Suekiva
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Postby Suekiva » Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:25 am

The New Greek Republic wrote:
Suekiva wrote:If anybody else on the British Isles were to come back, that'd be nice too.


I don't even think I've seen any of them post

Ireland posted once.

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The New Greek Republic
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Postby The New Greek Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:34 am

Suekiva wrote:
The New Greek Republic wrote:
I don't even think I've seen any of them post

Ireland posted once.


I think the RP needs to be purged of inactive members
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What's red and bad for your teeth?

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Just warning you, your ears will have orgasms.

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The New Greek Republic
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Postby The New Greek Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:35 am

Sanabel wrote:
SECP wrote:Hey got a Q. If your in a defensive pact does that mean if one person gets invaded the other helps?

Depends on the terms of said pact.


But often, yes.
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A brick.
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Just warning you, your ears will have orgasms.

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Postby Suekiva » Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:35 am

The New Greek Republic wrote:
Suekiva wrote:Ireland posted once.


I think the RP needs to be purged of inactive members

Please Ireland's my only friend.

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The Peoples East Africa
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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:37 am

Suekiva wrote:
The New Greek Republic wrote:
I think the RP needs to be purged of inactive members

Please Ireland's my only friend.

Sweden will be your friend if you ask for it.

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Postby Suekiva » Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:37 am

The Peoples East Africa wrote:
Suekiva wrote:Please Ireland's my only friend.

Sweden will be your friend if you ask for it.

I asked Germany to join his club so I could have more friends.

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The New Greek Republic
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Postby The New Greek Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:39 am

Suekiva wrote:
The New Greek Republic wrote:
I think the RP needs to be purged of inactive members

Please Ireland's my only friend.


You've got Persia pal ;)

Also can we come up with a formula to determine economic health status pls
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What's red and bad for your teeth?

A brick.
Sanabel wrote: I control the Holy See with its transvestite pope who identifies as an ogre.

Just warning you, your ears will have orgasms.

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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:39 am

Suekiva wrote:
The Peoples East Africa wrote:Sweden will be your friend if you ask for it.

I asked Germany to join his club so I could have more friends.

If he doesn't accept you, you can try and be an observer for the Northern Kingdoms Treaty. That's where me and Finland become best friends.

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Suekiva
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Postby Suekiva » Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:40 am

The New Greek Republic wrote:
Suekiva wrote:Please Ireland's my only friend.


You've got Persia pal ;)

Also can we come up with a formula to determine economic health status pls

yey Haggisland is less lonely now.

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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:40 am

The New Greek Republic wrote:
Suekiva wrote:Please Ireland's my only friend.


You've got Persia pal ;)

Also can we come up with a formula to determine economic health status pls

What would this formula contain? Stuff like resources and working population?

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The New Greek Republic
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Postby The New Greek Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:47 am

The Peoples East Africa wrote:
The New Greek Republic wrote:
You've got Persia pal ;)

Also can we come up with a formula to determine economic health status pls

What would this formula contain? Stuff like resources and working population?


Yes and things like GDP and military size and resource demand compared to supply and inflation rate and populations size and working population and stuff
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What's red and bad for your teeth?

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Sanabel wrote: I control the Holy See with its transvestite pope who identifies as an ogre.

Just warning you, your ears will have orgasms.

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The Peoples East Africa
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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:49 am

The New Greek Republic wrote:
The Peoples East Africa wrote:What would this formula contain? Stuff like resources and working population?


Yes and things like GDP and military size and resource demand compared to supply and inflation rate and populations size and working population and stuff

Do you want to make the formula, or shall someone else? I wouldn't really know where to start with it.

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The New Greek Republic
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Postby The New Greek Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:51 am

The Peoples East Africa wrote:
The New Greek Republic wrote:
Yes and things like GDP and military size and resource demand compared to supply and inflation rate and populations size and working population and stuff

Do you want to make the formula, or shall someone else? I wouldn't really know where to start with it.


I guess I could put my own and then you guys could critique and fix it because I'm certainly no economist
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What's red and bad for your teeth?

A brick.
Sanabel wrote: I control the Holy See with its transvestite pope who identifies as an ogre.

Just warning you, your ears will have orgasms.

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The Peoples East Africa
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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:53 am

The New Greek Republic wrote:
The Peoples East Africa wrote:Do you want to make the formula, or shall someone else? I wouldn't really know where to start with it.


I guess I could put my own and then you guys could critique and fix it because I'm certainly no economist

Good luck with it then.

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Postby New Decius » Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:54 am

Sanabel wrote:
Suekiva wrote:Yeah, I don't think the Persian Navy is going to be a major factor in this conflict, unless they can pull off a victory over the Dutch and Ottoman Gulf fleets before everybody else gets there.

What is your opinion on the quality of Persian and Ottoman troops vs German and Dutch?


Really you need to ask. And Germany is allied with the Ottomans. We are sending them military advisors and also equipment including aircraft designs.

Also my post will have to come up after my shift. Sorry guys. What with school starting next month my schedule is really getting swamped.
Proud advocate that Europe stands stronger together than divided. The EU may be flawed in some areas but the idea of a united Europa can only bring good fortune to Europe and the world. For more than two thousand years, Europe was home to conflicts inspired by coveting one another's territory and resources, even making the continent the home to some of the world's most destructive and costly conflicts. But the idea was all wrong in their minds. Their idea was to bring this territory or that under their flag and spread influence on the continent. The idea they should all have been thinking was that the goal should be to bring the continent under one unified flag.

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Postby The New Greek Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:14 am

So I'm working on the Economic formula and a lot of things will be scaled, like say resource demand is relatively high, then it'd be an 7 or 8. The highest would be 10.
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---(---o---.-`--
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What's red and bad for your teeth?

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Just warning you, your ears will have orgasms.

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The Peoples East Africa
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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:15 am

The New Greek Republic wrote:So I'm working on the Economic formula and a lot of things will be scaled, like say resource demand is relatively high, then it'd be an 7 or 8. The highest would be 10.

It's probably best to do it that way, instead of working with ridiculously high numbers.

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Postby The New Greek Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:42 am

The Peoples East Africa wrote:
The New Greek Republic wrote:So I'm working on the Economic formula and a lot of things will be scaled, like say resource demand is relatively high, then it'd be an 7 or 8. The highest would be 10.

It's probably best to do it that way, instead of working with ridiculously high numbers.


So I had a formula and ended with a pretty high final number, like 255,000 I think we need to come up with categories.

All of my model numbers were taken from the top economies of the world so I think if you end with a number that 250k+ then it's safe to say you have a top economy, 200k-250k you're a very strong economy, 150k-200k you're a strong economy, 100k-150k you're an okay economy/not too bad but not that good either, 50k-100k poor economy, 50k- failing/collapsed/downtrodden economy
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---(---o---.-`--
__`.____/___/_/
What's red and bad for your teeth?

A brick.
Sanabel wrote: I control the Holy See with its transvestite pope who identifies as an ogre.

Just warning you, your ears will have orgasms.

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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:46 am

The New Greek Republic wrote:
The Peoples East Africa wrote:It's probably best to do it that way, instead of working with ridiculously high numbers.


So I had a formula and ended with a pretty high final number, like 255,000 I think we need to come up with categories.

All of my model numbers were taken from the top economies of the world so I think if you end with a number that 250k+ then it's safe to say you have a top economy, 200k-250k you're a very strong economy, 150k-200k you're a strong economy, 100k-150k you're an okay economy/not too bad but not that good either, 50k-100k poor economy, 50k- failing/collapsed/downtrodden economy

The economies in 1900 would be very different to nowadays. You could probably divide each of those numbers by 10,000 and just have a ranking of 1 to 25.

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Postby The New Greek Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:51 am

The Peoples East Africa wrote:The economies in 1900 would be very different to nowadays. You could probably divide each of those numbers by 10,000 and just have a ranking of 1 to 25.


Fair enough, so here's the formula I came up with.

(POP-WPOP/M)
{[(GDP+YGR)•ITa]/CoL)}•I (RD/RS)


GDP - Gross Domestic Product
M - Military
RD - Resource Demand
RS - Resource Supply
I - Inflation
POP - Population
WPOP - Working Population
CoL- Cost of Living
Ta - National Tax Rate
YGR - Yearly Growth Rate
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---(---o---.-`--
__`.____/___/_/
What's red and bad for your teeth?

A brick.
Sanabel wrote: I control the Holy See with its transvestite pope who identifies as an ogre.

Just warning you, your ears will have orgasms.

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