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Postby Bolovia » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:41 am

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Bolovia wrote:Take out the Aztec leadership essentially? Hmm seems legit, but be prepared we'll be a problem to you big or small an insurgency will occur in your borders no matter how well defended you are. Thats how we Aztecs role too, just like your policy we go in kill everything that is involved and then leave and not give a shit what happens next. You'll see with the Mayans I advise you just to wait and watch, we do things a little more... savagely if you will after all we are a warriors society unlike you.

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>Insurgency in other nation borders
>Doesn't have a significant presence in said nation
>Warrior Society's mean shite in the modern age outside of tribes(No offense meant to tribals)
>Implying you can invade a nation who has a Gun Culture

I like your points and I respect them... but I'm still willing to put them to the test. Gun Culture or not I will find your Achilles heel. For a nation who seems to not give a damn about anything but itself, from the way you put it, it seems like you really care about what I'd do to a few Mayans. I'm not sure how willing your boys are in going into a country, fighting an army who are willing to fight to the death in a terrain you're not familiar with using the warriors code which now plays into the modern age and is not shite, and attepting to uproot it a system that has been in place for essentially thousands of years. The CSA seems like it is in no shape to intervene, especially with the situation of a very hostile northern neighbor who wants to unite again.

@Hobbesistan, < hope I got that right, your offer is very tempting partner, we got a sweet tooth we can't fill so we're just lettin off a little steam on our Mayan minority.

Well if CSA chooses to invade new strategy: Feeck you, you don't kill me I kill me! and then I nuke myself. In the end I'm the leader of my own destiny, so bring it on you trigger happy redneck sonsabitches.

EDIT: I apologize I'm addressing you as if you were the CSA, this is all directed, or mostly directed at Lunas Legion. I fought you as the Ottomans once, that was a good war turned into huge stalemate.
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Postby Kisinger » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:50 am

Bolovia wrote:
Kisinger wrote:>Insurgency in other nation borders
>Doesn't have a significant presence in said nation
>Warrior Society's mean shite in the modern age outside of tribes(No offense meant to tribals)
>Implying you can invade a nation who has a Gun Culture

I like your points and I respect them... but I'm still willing to put them to the test. Gun Culture or not I will find your Achilles heel. For a nation who seems to not give a damn about anything but itself, from the way you put it, it seems like you really care about what I'd do to a few Mayans. I'm not sure how willing your boys are in going into a country, fighting an army who are willing to fight to the death in a terrain you're not familiar with using the warriors code which now plays into the modern age and is not shite, and attepting to uproot it a system that has been in place for essentially thousands of years. The CSA seems like it is in no shape to intervene, especially with the situation of a very hostile northern neighbor who wants to unite again.

@Hobbesistan, < hope I got that right, your offer is very tempting partner, we got a sweet tooth we can't fill so we're just lettin off a little steam on our Mayan minority.

Well if CSA chooses to invade new strategy: Feeck you, you don't kill me I kill me! and then I nuke myself. In the end I'm the leader of my own destiny, so bring it on you trigger happy redneck sonsabitches.

EDIT: I apologize I'm addressing you as if you were the CSA, this is all directed, or mostly directed at Lunas Legion. I fought you as the Ottomans once, that was a good war turned into huge stalemate.

Considering a nation who has to Genocide it's own population to keep it in check, I'm pretty sure you finding an Achilles heel of the South(And it's the West who wants to unify them not the North) is going to be pretty hard.

Warrior codes do not apply in Modern Society especially considering how the spread of Western Ideas would severely dampen your efforts at trying to maintain said code as said code would be considered an extremely barbaric way of life and would be under high scrutiny of the International Community defactoing into Sanctions nullifying your economy. So yes I would argue that applying a legitimate Warrior Society into a Democracy is shite and is to this day very frowned upon.

The CSA could intervene under a UN Resolution which I can assure you will be passed, which will not end very good for you even with your troops who are ready to die for their nation and the "unfamiliar" terrain, which you are seeming to forget Northern Mexico is similar to South Western Texas and Cuba(which the CSA controls) is similar to the Yucatan which means it isn't all to unfamiliar to them.

Edit: It's 5 O'clock in the morning I needs to sleep, Goodnight!
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Postby Bolovia » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:53 am

Kisinger wrote:
Bolovia wrote:I like your points and I respect them... but I'm still willing to put them to the test. Gun Culture or not I will find your Achilles heel. For a nation who seems to not give a damn about anything but itself, from the way you put it, it seems like you really care about what I'd do to a few Mayans. I'm not sure how willing your boys are in going into a country, fighting an army who are willing to fight to the death in a terrain you're not familiar with using the warriors code which now plays into the modern age and is not shite, and attepting to uproot it a system that has been in place for essentially thousands of years. The CSA seems like it is in no shape to intervene, especially with the situation of a very hostile northern neighbor who wants to unite again.

@Hobbesistan, < hope I got that right, your offer is very tempting partner, we got a sweet tooth we can't fill so we're just lettin off a little steam on our Mayan minority.

Well if CSA chooses to invade new strategy: Feeck you, you don't kill me I kill me! and then I nuke myself. In the end I'm the leader of my own destiny, so bring it on you trigger happy redneck sonsabitches.

EDIT: I apologize I'm addressing you as if you were the CSA, this is all directed, or mostly directed at Lunas Legion. I fought you as the Ottomans once, that was a good war turned into huge stalemate.

Considering a nation who has to Genocide it's own population to keep it in check, I'm pretty sure you finding an Achilles heel of the South(And it's the West who wants to unify them not the North) is going to be pretty hard.

Warrior codes do not apply in Modern Society especially considering how the spread of Western Ideas would severely dampen your efforts at trying to maintain said code as said code would be considered an extremely barbaric way of life and would be under high scrutiny of the International Community defactoing into Sanctions nullifying your economy. So yes I would argue that applying a legitimate Warrior Society into a Democracy is shite and is to this day very frowned upon.

The CSA could intervene under a UN Resolution which I can assure you will be passed, which will not end very good for you even with your troops who are ready to die for their nation and the "unfamiliar" terrain, which you are seeming to forget Northern Mexico is similar to South Western Texas and Cuba(which the CSA controls) is similar to the Yucatan which means it isn't all to unfamiliar to them.

Edit: It's 5 O'clock in the morning I needs to sleep, Goodnight!

Well much like the CSA I don't give a shit, what happens happens, at least it'll give people something to RP and if you find this highly unrealistic my friend your in an AH RP all this screams unrealism, but goodnight.

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Postby The New Greek Republic » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:54 am

United States shall..uhm..invade? No too expensive.

Blockade? No too expensive.

Complain and assert sanctions, probably an embargo on U.S goods (including the nice nice Silcon Valley tech which Azteca in search of)? Nice, good idea so original it's almost like your Obama dealing with Russia
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Postby Bolovia » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:59 am

The New Greek Republic wrote:United States shall..uhm..invade? No too expensive.

Blockade? No too expensive.

Complain and assert sanctions, probably an embargo on U.S goods (including the nice nice Silcon Valley tech which Azteca in search of)? Nice, good idea so original it's almost like your Obama dealing with Russia

Technology? You mean like wheel or fire tech, we already have this no need for new tech.

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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jul 08, 2015 3:12 am

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We outright joined the Allies after the Fall of France. I presume that the Panama canal exists, so we would likely just set up some basing agreement with the Canadians or US and move a large portion of our fleet to the Pacific in order to fight the IJN.

I have a lot of questions besides. One in the morning in bed on my phone is not the time or place to ask them.


Fair do's.

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We outright joined the Allies after the Fall of France. I presume that the Panama canal exists, so we would likely just set up some basing agreement with the Canadians or US and move a large portion of our fleet to the Pacific in order to fight the IJN.


So we allies or nah?


In the war? Maybe. I mean IIRC you said you stayed neutral but were an arms dealer. Don't think we haven't forgotten the Howard Doctrine, though.

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Bolovia wrote:Exactly. :twisted:


Foreign involvement isn't what you want. CSA has a 'all or nothing' policy on foreign involvement; they either don't, or they send everything they can spare.

And I'm fairly sure the USA won't be cool with genocide either.


Or the FSA.

Bolovia wrote:The CSA seems like it is in no shape to intervene, especially with the situation of a very hostile northern neighbor who wants to unite again..


Wut. Our main goal is maintaining the independence of the Free States, we don't give a shit about the CSA unless they instate Apartheid or reinstate slavery.
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Postby Arvenia » Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:51 am

What territories are free!? Likely Saudi Arabia, Vietnam, Indonesia or the Polynesian islands?
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:52 am

Arvenia wrote:What territories are free!? Likely Saudi Arabia, Vietnam, Indonesia or the Polynesian islands?


Yes, yes, yes, yes/no?

Any interest in those?
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:53 am

Did I just read the Mayans are still alive?

And if so, the Alien Space Bats have arrived soon than expected.

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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:56 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Did I just read the Mayans are still alive?

And if so, the Alien Space Bats have arrived soon than expected.


The Maya still exist, they're a recognized minority in Mexico and some of their languages are recognized minority languages of Mexico and Guatemala.
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:59 am

Caltarania wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Did I just read the Mayans are still alive?

And if so, the Alien Space Bats have arrived soon than expected.


The Maya still exist, they're a recognized minority in Mexico and some of their languages are recognized minority languages of Mexico and Guatemala.


By still alive, I meant like relevant enough to do anything within the Mexican government or military.

However, didn't realize there were 7 million of them.
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:00 am

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By still alive, I meant like relevant enough to do anything within the Mexican government or military.


They were one of the only native american people's to stage a somewhat successful revolt in the late 19th century, so I wouldn't say it's too outrageous in all honesty.
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Why someone wants to play as Polynesian Islands?

I'm not saying it is bad, I'm just asking.
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NS Name: Arvenia
Nation Name: Federal People's Republic of Congo
Capital City: Brazzaville
Government Type: Federal Republic
Head of State: President Leopold Maquis
Claimed Territory: Congo, DR Congo, Cabinda and Moxico Province
State/National Religion: Christianity
Dominant Religion: Christianity
Minority Religion(s): Islam, Animism and Atheism
Population: 64,000,000
Military Organization: The Congo Defence Force consists of an army, an air force, a navy, an artillery corps, an educational service, a military police and a marine corps.
Military Size: 500,000 actives and 500,000 reserves.
National Flag: Flag of Congo
Coat of Arms: Congolese Coat of Arms

National Focus: Military and Foreign Affairs
National Ideology(s): Pan-Africanism, Corporatism, Menism, Conservatism, Federalism, Nationalism, Militarism and Fascism
Foreign Policy: Interventionist, always intervening in wars.
Civil Freedoms (1-10): 5
Primary Import(s): Manufactured goods
Primary Export(s): Manufactured goods
Primary Culture: Congolese
Other Cultures: Angolan

Brief Description of your nation's History:
2006 - DR Congo and Congo began talks for reunification.
2007 - The M31 Rebellion prevents the talks.
2008 - The M31 is defeated and the two Congolese states are unified into the FPRC.
2009 - A military incident involving the Angolan military and the CDF causes rift in the Angola-Congolese relations.
2010 - Congo orders all Angolans to be deported from Congo, while Angola orders all Congolese to be killed, further tearing apart the relations.
2011 - Angola declares war on FPRC. The CDF captures Cabinda.
2012 - The CDF captures the Angolan province of Moxico.
2013 - The FPRC and Angola signs the Treaty of Brazzaville.
2014 - A failed military coup occurs in the FPRC.
Brief Description of your nation's economy: The economy is corporatist and much wealthy thanks to oil and trade. Congo has an infrastructure inspired by African culture and European culture. The manufactured goods are what the country imports and exports.
Brief Description of your nation's government: The government is democratic and elects a new leader each fourth year. The country has a multi-party system with two major parties, the Congo Workers' United Front (CRUF) and the Congo Corporate Party (CCP).

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Postby Arvenia » Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:20 am

Altito Asmoro wrote:Why someone wants to play as Polynesian Islands?

I'm not saying it is bad, I'm just asking.

I am applying as a country that controls the Arabian Peninsula.
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Postby The New Greek Republic » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:05 am

Caltarania wrote:
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So we allies or nah?


In the war? Maybe. I mean IIRC you said you stayed neutral but were an arms dealer. Don't think we haven't forgotten the Howard Doctrine, though.


I meant in general. CSA was the arms dealer, I just stayed neutral to preserve a rocky economy.
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bomb aztecs 2015

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The New Lowlands wrote:bomb aztecs 2015

Bomb the Franco German oppressors
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:11 am

The New Greek Republic wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
In the war? Maybe. I mean IIRC you said you stayed neutral but were an arms dealer. Don't think we haven't forgotten the Howard Doctrine, though.


I meant in general. CSA was the arms dealer, I just stayed neutral to preserve a rocky economy.


In general we're probably passive aggressive. Unlike the CSA, we probably didn't embargo you as, to be perfectly honest, it would have done more harm to us than to you, due to your economic mishaps. We probably would still have fiery relations until you revoke the Howard Doctrine, all being said.

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The New Lowlands wrote:bomb aztecs 2015

Bomb the Franco German oppressors


embargo nazi africa 2015
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Postby The New Greek Republic » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:19 am

Arvenia wrote:-snip-


Sorry, Saudi Arabia has been taken. Along with Yemen/Qatar (not sure which), and the UAE. Besides, your history was too small anyways.

Caltarania wrote:
In general we're probably passive aggressive. Unlike the CSA, we probably didn't embargo you as, to be perfectly honest, it would have done more harm to us than to you, due to your economic mishaps. We probably would still have fiery relations until you revoke the Howard Doctrine, all being said.


Just a note about the HD, it's something that very few Americans remember and that even fewer politicians follow. It just happens that Stoudt prominently stands by it, the next president probably won't.
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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:21 am

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Arvenia wrote:-snip-


Sorry, Saudi Arabia has been taken. Along with Yemen/Qatar (not sure which), and the UAE. Besides, your history was too small anyways.

Caltarania wrote:
In general we're probably passive aggressive. Unlike the CSA, we probably didn't embargo you as, to be perfectly honest, it would have done more harm to us than to you, due to your economic mishaps. We probably would still have fiery relations until you revoke the Howard Doctrine, all being said.


Just a note about the HD, it's something that very few Americans remember and that even fewer politicians follow. It just happens that Stoudt prominently stands by it, the next president probably won't.

What's the Howard Doctrine again?

Also, I have everything finished except my history, and I'll need to work on that of course.
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:37 am

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Sorry, Saudi Arabia has been taken. Along with Yemen/Qatar (not sure which), and the UAE. Besides, your history was too small anyways.



Just a note about the HD, it's something that very few Americans remember and that even fewer politicians follow. It just happens that Stoudt prominently stands by it, the next president probably won't.

What's the Howard Doctrine again?

Also, I have everything finished except my history, and I'll need to work on that of course.


The HD is basically a policy which states that the USA will take all the steps necessary to reunite America. As you can imagine, this doesn't please the FSA or CSA.
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Postby The New Greek Republic » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:51 am

Caltarania wrote:The HD is basically a policy which states that the USA will take all the steps necessary to reunite America. As you can imagine, this doesn't please the FSA or CSA.


Pretty much this. However, it's enforcement varies between presidency. Usually dedicating ourselves to reuniting America will drain the economy compared to when we're not. For instance, under President Howard (the namesake), the economy was horrible and seemed like it would never get back on track, the next few presidents loosely followed the HD and used support from Canada to rebuild the economy, now President Stoudt is neutralish but follows it more than not and as a result, our economy is stagnating.
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:26 am

The New Greek Republic wrote:
Caltarania wrote:The HD is basically a policy which states that the USA will take all the steps necessary to reunite America. As you can imagine, this doesn't please the FSA or CSA.


Pretty much this. However, it's enforcement varies between presidency. Usually dedicating ourselves to reuniting America will drain the economy compared to when we're not. For instance, under President Howard (the namesake), the economy was horrible and seemed like it would never get back on track, the next few presidents loosely followed the HD and used support from Canada to rebuild the economy, now President Stoudt is neutralish but follows it more than not and as a result, our economy is stagnating.


Coolio.

By the way, I am half debating having Bernie Sanders (my VP) deliver a speech about the CSA, Mexico or Union of North Africa, about conservatism and/or extremism.
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