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Transoxthraxia
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:43 pm

Bezombia wrote:You guys really need to be more explicit about this.

About what?
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:45 pm

Reatra wrote:And unite Ériu.

Only for it to fall apart soon and become isolated and forgotten like Iceland, but without without the hot springs and fair maidens.

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Postby Reatra » Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:46 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Reatra wrote:And unite Ériu.

Only for it to fall apart soon and become isolated and forgotten like Iceland, but without without the hot springs and fair maidens.

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And that won't happen because I'm a strong king.


Now my heir, that's another story.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:46 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Reatra wrote:And unite Ériu.

Only for it to fall apart soon and become isolated and forgotten like Iceland, but without without the hot springs and fair maidens.

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no thats impossible we need to isntitute a constitution and do all the things that are ludacris
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:51 pm

Reatra wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Only for it to fall apart soon and become isolated and forgotten like Iceland, but without without the hot springs and fair maidens.

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And that won't happen because I'm a strong king.


Now my heir, that's another story.

That's what I mean. As soon as you die, the others will just be like "Enh, time to go back toe being an independent king" and start killing each other again.

Or, to translate into Irish: *drunken shouting and the sounds of broken bottles* :P
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Napkiraly wrote:Only for it to fall apart soon and become isolated and forgotten like Iceland, but without without the hot springs and fair maidens.

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no thats impossible we need to isntitute a constitution and do all the things that are ludacris
Yeah, the constitutional monarchy is wee bit silly.
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Postby Reatra » Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:52 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Only for it to fall apart soon and become isolated and forgotten like Iceland, but without without the hot springs and fair maidens.

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no thats impossible we need to isntitute a constitution and do all the things that are ludacris



THIS MAN GETS IT!


And I only said constitution because I couldn't think of anything else to say. I meant some way for Rí to keep power and not have the "he stripped us of everything" reason for war.
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:54 pm

Reatra wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:no thats impossible we need to isntitute a constitution and do all the things that are ludacris



THIS MAN GETS IT!


And I only said constitution because I couldn't think of anything else to say. I meant some way for Rí to keep power and not have the "he stripped us of everything" reason for war.

How about he allows those he conquered to keep their lands? That what was usually done unless the conquered lord happened to be on the really bad side of the guy who just conquered him. For instance, historically when Wessex conquered Sussex the king of Sussex kept most of his lands and was made the equivalent of a duke.

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Postby Reatra » Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:57 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Reatra wrote:

THIS MAN GETS IT!


And I only said constitution because I couldn't think of anything else to say. I meant some way for Rí to keep power and not have the "he stripped us of everything" reason for war.

How about he allows those he conquered to keep their lands? That what was usually done unless the conquered lord happened to be on the really bad side of the guy who just conquered him. For instance, historically when Wessex conquered Sussex the king of Sussex kept most of his lands and was made the equivalent of a duke.


Yeah, but that's what really EVERYONE does. I figured he'd do it by default. Unless they're pagan.
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:58 pm

Reatra wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:How about he allows those he conquered to keep their lands? That what was usually done unless the conquered lord happened to be on the really bad side of the guy who just conquered him. For instance, historically when Wessex conquered Sussex the king of Sussex kept most of his lands and was made the equivalent of a duke.


Yeah, but that's what really EVERYONE does. I figured he'd do it by default. Unless they're pagan.

Okay....so why do you need a constitution?

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Postby Reatra » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:00 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Reatra wrote:
Yeah, but that's what really EVERYONE does. I figured he'd do it by default. Unless they're pagan.

Okay....so why do you need a constitution?


I don't. I only said Constitutional Monarchy because I couldn't think of any other term that describes a monarchy where the king's powers are limited.
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Postby Empire of Donner land » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:01 pm

#SmooeWeedAndArgueAboutImaginaryPoliticsEveryday
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Postby Conwy-Shire » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:03 pm

Bezombia wrote:You guys really need to be more explicit about this.

Conwy-shire wrote:http://i.imgur.com/JApGedV.png

like so?

*cough* sorry to be so vague
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Postby Reatra » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:05 pm

Empire of Donner land wrote:#SmooeWeedAndArgueAboutImaginaryPoliticsEveryday


#DisGoin'InMa'Sig
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Postby Empire of Donner land » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:10 pm

Reatra wrote:
Empire of Donner land wrote:#SmooeWeedAndArgueAboutImaginaryPoliticsEveryday


#DisGoin'InMa'Sig

Wow my first "in someone else's sig"

Might want to fix that typo for me :p
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:12 pm

Empire of Donner land wrote:#SmooeWeedAndArgueAboutImaginaryPoliticsEveryday

#Str8OuttaSussexCrazyMuthaFuckaNamedLicetubeFromTheGangCalledSaxonsWithAttitude

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Postby Reatra » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:21 pm

Empire of Donner land wrote:
Reatra wrote:
#DisGoin'InMa'Sig

Wow my first "in someone else's sig"

Might want to fix that typo for me :p


Was gonna ask but didn't want to seem like a dick XD
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Postby Reatra » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:26 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Empire of Donner land wrote:#SmooeWeedAndArgueAboutImaginaryPoliticsEveryday

#Str8OuttaSussexCrazyMuthaFuckaNamedLicetubeFromTheGangCalledSaxonsWithAttitude

#NowWhatYouHearIsNotATestI'mOnAConqueringSpree

#AndMeTheLordAndMyClannMembersAreGonnaTryToMakeYouBleed
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Postby Tyben » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:31 pm

@Irish Why dont you just murder the entirety of the nobility and install a new one in their place that is the same culture and religion as you? It's probably the most tried and true methods of post-conquest government in the dark age and the medieval age for a reason, they lose their leaders of men and suddenly the army is following the orders of someone else, really changes the peasants perspective on things...
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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:32 pm

Aelex wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:No I knew about Romano-Gallic culture, just didn't think the Celtic influence was very strong by the 5th century. Plus I'm generally hard-pressed to consider them Celtic, at least fully, (same goes for Romano-British culture) due to, well, it being Rome and whatnot.

Well, the these of the book itself is that the notion of "gaul" was mostly created by César himself and that the celts, tought behind an important ethny, were only a part of the population of Gaul ; which was composed of a patchwork of germanic, iberic, latin and even greek population; and not a cultural majority.

Latin probably not, since Latins were native to Latium only.
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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:38 pm

See, All you barbarians need *claims* Cisalpininea needs no such things for everything South of the Danube, East of the Atlantic and West of the Rhine is ours.
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Postby Tyben » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:39 pm

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
Aelex wrote:Well, the these of the book itself is that the notion of "gaul" was mostly created by César himself and that the celts, tought behind an important ethny, were only a part of the population of Gaul ; which was composed of a patchwork of germanic, iberic, latin and even greek population; and not a cultural majority.

Latin probably not, since Latins were native to Latium only.


Thats like saying the Germanic race is native to Scandinavia only. It's obviously true but entirely irrelevant.
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Postby Reatra » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:40 pm

Tyben wrote:@Irish Why dont you just murder the entirety of the nobility and install a new one in their place that is the same culture and religion as you? It's probably the most tried and true methods of post-conquest government in the dark age and the medieval age for a reason, they lose their leaders of men and suddenly the army is following the orders of someone else, really changes the peasants perspective on things...


That was the plan.
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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:45 pm

Tyben wrote:
The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:Latin probably not, since Latins were native to Latium only.


Thats like saying the Germanic race is native to Scandinavia only. It's obviously true but entirely irrelevant.


It's entirely relevant, prior to Caesar's invasion, there were probably very few if any Latins, Celts and Germans spread out and formed many kingdoms in plenty of territory, Latins did not.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:46 pm

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
Tyben wrote:
Thats like saying the Germanic race is native to Scandinavia only. It's obviously true but entirely irrelevant.


It's entirely relevant, prior to Caesar's invasion, there were probably very few if any Latins, Celts and Germans spread out and formed many kingdoms in plenty of territory, Latins did not.

*clears throat*
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:48 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
It's entirely relevant, prior to Caesar's invasion, there were probably very few if any Latins, Celts and Germans spread out and formed many kingdoms in plenty of territory, Latins did not.

*clears throat*

Soooooory I was at football practice
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