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North America Inc
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Postby North America Inc » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:10 pm

Is there an Enclave Remnant Faction?

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Postby Dixmix » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:11 pm

North America Inc wrote:Is there an Enclave Remnant Faction?

The Enclave are removed by Tesla in the West Coast and went into Hiding.

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Postby North America Inc » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:13 pm

Dixmix wrote:
North America Inc wrote:Is there an Enclave Remnant Faction?

The Enclave are removed by Tesla in the West Coast and went into Hiding.

So does that mean I can't use them?

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Postby Dixmix » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:15 pm

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Dixmix wrote:The Enclave are removed by Tesla in the West Coast and went into Hiding.

So does that mean I can't use them?

That would be up to the OP to see if they will allow it.

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Postby Alouite » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:16 pm

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You didn't read my last post... :meh: I posted it hoping people would read it and reply IC, not avoid reading it and ask for me to sum it up OOC.

Your going to Red Rock Canyon, the one place owned by the Khans? That's where my Commandos are operating from, however they are currently running around laying the ground work with propaganda and promoting people to rise up and all that jazz.


Not the Canyon, jut the drug lab near it. Anyways, what's there endgame?
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Postby Dixmix » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:18 pm

Alouite wrote:
Dixmix wrote:Your going to Red Rock Canyon, the one place owned by the Khans? That's where my Commandos are operating from, however they are currently running around laying the ground work with propaganda and promoting people to rise up and all that jazz.


Not the Canyon, jut the drug lab near it. Anyways, what's there endgame?

Hopefully to topple over the government of Vegas. No more power corruption, or using the people as tools for political agendas. If you want to help with the ideas and probably developing the movement than by all means help. It would be great for the movement.

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Postby North America Inc » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:19 pm

Dixmix wrote:
North America Inc wrote:So does that mean I can't use them?

That would be up to the OP to see if they will allow it.

The reason I ask is because thats the only one I noticed not on there.

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Postby Alouite » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:26 pm

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Not the Canyon, jut the drug lab near it. Anyways, what's there endgame?

Hopefully to topple over the government of Vegas. No more power corruption, or using the people as tools for political agendas. If you want to help with the ideas and probably developing the movement than by all means help. It would be great for the movement.


What's their goals post takeover?
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Postby New Rnclave » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:30 pm

DixMix, you really can't decide the attitudes of New vegas's people, so much humanitarian work is being done, your speeches really wouldn't inspire them all to rise up. Also, The Minutemen are autocratic when it comes to secuirty
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Postby Dixmix » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:35 pm

New Rnclave wrote:DixMix, you really can't decide the attitudes of New vegas's people, so much humanitarian work is being done, your speeches really wouldn't inspire them all to rise up. Also, The Minutemen are autocratic when it comes to secuirty

Actually I can. Again, anyone can spin anything and even humanitarian work can be spined. Especially since you said you defeated the Wild Ones yet not even you knows that I am around and I can say you lied to the people and shot my speaker just to silence his freedom of speech.

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Postby Conglomerate of Iron » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:38 pm

New Rnclave wrote:DixMix, you really can't decide the attitudes of New vegas's people, so much humanitarian work is being done, your speeches really wouldn't inspire them all to rise up. Also, The Minutemen are autocratic when it comes to secuirty

Dixmix, he has a point. Depending upon your secrecy and popularity, it might be a bit of a jump to to have a populist uprising immediately.

And it is his town. You can have some rebels, or a few collaborators, but that takes some time and he does determine a good chunk of the populace.
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Postby Dixmix » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:39 pm

Alouite wrote:
Dixmix wrote:Hopefully to topple over the government of Vegas. No more power corruption, or using the people as tools for political agendas. If you want to help with the ideas and probably developing the movement than by all means help. It would be great for the movement.


What's their goals post takeover?

To establish a government ruled equally by the people. More of a leftist government with freedoms for the people for trade and full autocracy for the settlements.

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Postby Alouite » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:40 pm

Dixmix wrote:
Alouite wrote:
What's their goals post takeover?

To establish a government ruled equally by the people. More of a leftist government with freedoms for the people for trade and full autocracy for the settlements.


Autocracy is the wrong word, autonomy is the word you wanted. But I suppose that makes sense.
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Postby Dixmix » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:40 pm

Conglomerate of Iron wrote:
New Rnclave wrote:DixMix, you really can't decide the attitudes of New vegas's people, so much humanitarian work is being done, your speeches really wouldn't inspire them all to rise up. Also, The Minutemen are autocratic when it comes to secuirty

Dixmix, he has a point. Depending upon your secrecy and popularity, it might be a bit of a jump to to have a populist uprising immediately.

And it is his town. You can have some rebels, or a few collaborators, but that takes some time and he does determine a good chunk of the populace.

...Fuck it. I am doing a suicide bombing attack again.

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Postby Dixmix » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:41 pm

Alouite wrote:
Dixmix wrote:To establish a government ruled equally by the people. More of a leftist government with freedoms for the people for trade and full autocracy for the settlements.


Autocracy is the wrong word, autonomy is the word you wanted. But I suppose that makes sense.

Yeah, going for autonomy.

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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:03 pm

North America Inc wrote:Is there an Enclave Remnant Faction?


We have a lot of lore surrounding the Enclave this far into the future. The only remaining Enclave group was in the north. The Dakotas, Minnesota and Michigan area. They were nuked by the Legion in 2377, and since then we have no official lore but I was going to run with something like "they collapsed, and remnants migrated into northern Legion territory".

You could play as a small expedition sent from that remnant migration. You would need to be in hiding, and find somewhere in the southern region of the map to hide out (the North is too populated, you wouldn't be able to hide). People here wouldn't like to know that the Enclave has returned.
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Postby New Rnclave » Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:10 pm

Dixmix wrote:
New Rnclave wrote:DixMix, you really can't decide the attitudes of New vegas's people, so much humanitarian work is being done, your speeches really wouldn't inspire them all to rise up. Also, The Minutemen are autocratic when it comes to secuirty

Actually I can. Again, anyone can spin anything and even humanitarian work can be spined. Especially since you said you defeated the Wild Ones yet not even you knows that I am around and I can say you lied to the people and shot my speaker just to silence his freedom of speech.


Seeing as it's my territory, you really can't, your godmodding is getting out of hand. The Wild Ones left in shame and burned their land to the ground, the Minutemen won the first war. And all humanitarian work so far has been making all of New Vegas a fuctioning well organized area . And I can say you lied to everyone and are just a group of raping pilaging freaks
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Postby Dixmix » Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:15 pm

New Rnclave wrote:
Dixmix wrote:Actually I can. Again, anyone can spin anything and even humanitarian work can be spined. Especially since you said you defeated the Wild Ones yet not even you knows that I am around and I can say you lied to the people and shot my speaker just to silence his freedom of speech.


Seeing as it's my territory, you really can't, your godmodding is getting out of hand. The Wild Ones left in shame and burned their land to the ground, the Minutemen won the first war. And all humanitarian work so far has been making all of New Vegas a fuctioning well organized area . And I can say you lied to everyone and are just a group of raping pilaging freaks

My godmodding?! *sigh* fine. I am godmodding. I decided to godmod because why the fuck not? My Commandos are basically godmodding even though they are basically irrelevant to the whole story and I should just comeback. How about we rectcon the entire idea of a movement and I never touched your territory. Is that fine with you or should I erase the bombing too because I am godmodding?

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Postby Ralnis » Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:17 pm

Hello everyone! How is NS? How is Fallout?
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Postby Conglomerate of Iron » Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:18 pm

Ralnis wrote:Hello everyone! How is NS? How is Fallout?

Pure cocaine.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:20 pm

Ralnis wrote:Hello everyone! How is NS? How is Fallout?


Welcome back. Glad to see another old-timer returning.
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Postby North America Inc » Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:22 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
North America Inc wrote:Is there an Enclave Remnant Faction?


We have a lot of lore surrounding the Enclave this far into the future. The only remaining Enclave group was in the north. The Dakotas, Minnesota and Michigan area. They were nuked by the Legion in 2377, and since then we have no official lore but I was going to run with something like "they collapsed, and remnants migrated into northern Legion territory".

You could play as a small expedition sent from that remnant migration. You would need to be in hiding, and find somewhere in the southern region of the map to hide out (the North is too populated, you wouldn't be able to hide). People here wouldn't like to know that the Enclave has returned.

What is considered an expedition?

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Postby Ralnis » Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:28 pm

Can anyone give me a synopsis on what has happened? Trying to make an app to throw my bid in for Vegas.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:23 pm

North America Inc wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
We have a lot of lore surrounding the Enclave this far into the future. The only remaining Enclave group was in the north. The Dakotas, Minnesota and Michigan area. They were nuked by the Legion in 2377, and since then we have no official lore but I was going to run with something like "they collapsed, and remnants migrated into northern Legion territory".

You could play as a small expedition sent from that remnant migration. You would need to be in hiding, and find somewhere in the southern region of the map to hide out (the North is too populated, you wouldn't be able to hide). People here wouldn't like to know that the Enclave has returned.

What is considered an expedition?


20-40 men, I'd think. The Enclave isn't small, but an Enclave group trying to infiltrate the Mojave would certainly be small.
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Postby Ralnis » Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:25 pm

Hey New Sea, are there any Super Mutants and Ghouls around Mojave?
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