The Last Colonies - Sci-fi TBS/RP - OOC / Always Open

[Harkback Union]

Also. A thought on a mechanics change.

Instead of being able to trade research, we should go the research pact route. And allow economic pacts as well which generate bonus happiness. These of course would have to go alongside pre-Information Networks communication, which I believe would be a boon to RPer interaction, and therefore retention.

Perhaps research agreements generate 0.1 RP for each player per the other's research building, rising to 0.5 with Information Networks. They last five years and may be renewed at will.

Economic agreements give happiness from the cultural exchange of ideas generated, a base of +1 that rises to +2 and +1 PP at IN.

They could cost a few in E to set up, maybe 3 aggregate from either player, representing the virtual infrastructure being erected.

I know the research trade can quickly put some ahead of others, but I don't really like the research pacts either. Economic agreement, maybe, though I don't want to complicate things even further.

What I think would be best is to raise the energy price of Tech transfer and implement some simple espionage mechanics that lets you steal techs from other factions.

[Harkback Union]

http://imgur.com/KjDor4c
New Map with readable base IDs and Air corridors shown (only aircraft can move along these!

You really do make swanky maps Hark. What software do you use?

Well thank you. They are supposed to look even better, but imgur always compresses the image, hence the poor quality.
I use paint tool sai.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Also. A thought on a mechanics change.

Instead of being able to trade research, we should go the research pact route. And allow economic pacts as well which generate bonus happiness. These of course would have to go alongside pre-Information Networks communication, which I believe would be a boon to RPer interaction, and therefore retention.

Perhaps research agreements generate 0.1 RP for each player per the other's research building, rising to 0.5 with Information Networks. They last five years and may be renewed at will.

Economic agreements give happiness from the cultural exchange of ideas generated, a base of +1 that rises to +2 and +1 PP at IN.

They could cost a few in E to set up, maybe 3 aggregate from either player, representing the virtual infrastructure being erected.

I know the research trade can quickly put some ahead of others, but I don't really like the research pacts either. Economic agreement, maybe, though I don't want to complicate things even further.

What I think would be best is to raise the energy price of Tech transfer and implement some simple espionage mechanics that lets you steal techs from other factions.

I'm just thinking they might be nice little points of contact between factions in the time it will take everyone to develop Information Network, since currently we're all just playing our own little games. Raising the energy transfer cost and giving some simple Espionage would be a good idea too though.

[G-Tech Corporation]

You really do make swanky maps Hark. What software do you use?

Well thank you. They are supposed to look even better, but imgur always compresses the image, hence the poor quality.
I use paint tool sai.

Ah, well if you don't actually link images, you should use photobucket. They don't compress any pictures as long as you use the .png format.

[Farsview]

Whoo, that was a big update...

Can someone please skim my post to make sure I didn't miss something?

[G-Tech Corporation]

Whoo, that was a big update...

Can someone please skim my post to make sure I didn't miss something?

Only a few things I saw.

In general:
You're posting Manufactories as costing -1 E; they don't, however they do produce -Hap and -Health. I don't think you caught the -Hap.
Also, your Health is slightly wrong. You have -3 total from Jungle, 5 pop, and running the Manufactory, but only +1 from the Infirmary, leaving you at -2. I'm not sure how you calculated only -1?
In light of that, your Happiness seems to be a bit off. In year 4 you have 6 people active, which is -6 Happiness, and you're at -2 Health, which is -2 Happiness. Then the Slum produces -2, and you also lose one Happiness from having the Manufactiry active, but that's offset by the Infirmary: so I'm getting a total of -10, which could have repercussions based on your Ideology, not the -4 you have listed. It also causes Rioting I believe, which may skew your build order.

Then just some specific things.
In year 4 quarter 1 you produce .3 BP from two workers I think.
In year 5 quarter 4 you deploy 3 Scavengers, while the max for a region is two.
And also remember while you're Rioting not only does one Population refuses to work, you also gain 1/2 RP- not 0.5 max, 1/2th of whatever you would normally produce. So each Thinker is putting out .1 RP, not .2 towards Industrial Core.

Otherwise you're looking good. The Slums were a good save.

[Farsview]

You're posting Manufactories as costing -1 E; they don't, however they do produce -Hap and -Health. I don't think you caught the -Hap.

... How did I mess that up! Crap... I was actually planning around Manufactories being -1 Energy...

Also, your Health is slightly wrong. You have -3 total from Jungle, 5 pop, and running the Manufactory, but only +1 from the Infirmary, leaving you at -2. I'm not sure how you calculated only -1?

I forgot the -1 Health per 5 Pop rule.

In year 5 quarter 4 you deploy 3 Scavengers, while the max for a region is two.
And also remember while you're Rioting not only does one Population refuses to work, you also gain 1/2 RP- not 0.5 max, 1/2th of whatever you would normally produce. So each Thinker is putting out .1 RP, not .2 towards Industrial Core.

I thought Jungle spaces can have up to 5 Scavengers?
Anyways, thanks for the help G-Tech!

Now if you excuse me, I have some major renovations to do on my posts.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Hm, Hark must have changed the Scavenger thing. Mea culpa, you're right, five is cool in Alien Jungles.

[Farsview]

Ok, I think I got it...
The biggest changes are that I built a Sanitation system in year 2 (or else my pop would rebel in years 2 and 3), and a specially chosen 100 people were forced back into 'storage'.
Does anyone see any problems remaining in my posts?

[G-Tech Corporation]

Ok, I think I got it...
The biggest changes are that I built a Sanitation system in year 2 (or else my pop would rebel in years 2 and 3), and a specially chosen 100 people were forced back into 'storage'.
Does anyone see any problems remaining in my posts?

The only thing I see is that between Year 3 Q4 and Year 4 Q1 you went from 2 Metal to 5 Metal, while producing two and using one.

Also, what is your Other +3 Happiness from your calculation?

Hmm, you're shaping up well though. I may have some serious competition.

[Auricium]

sorry... my edits are nowhere near to being completed..... Ive been busy IRL (summerschool. I chose to take the extra course too. )

[Farsview]

The only thing I see is that between Year 3 Q4 and Year 4 Q1 you went from 2 Metal to 5 Metal, while producing two and using one.

Darn it, its always something. I will fix it tomorrow.

Also, what is your Other +3 Happiness from your calculation?

It is on a need to know basis... (At least, that's how I understand it)

Hmm, you're shaping up well though. I may have some serious competition.

Thanks! I would agree with that statement, but I seem to not be able to keep track of the rules (and my future planning SUCKS, -15 Happy? That's horrible )

[G-Tech Corporation]

Damn, I gotta negotiate harder on my own secret project. Mine isn't nearly that good.

[Farsview]

Shhhh! I think that is supposed to be a secret...
Anyways, they weren't even the original benefits... The benefits were changed right after I built that project, which ended up throwing my strategy out of wack.

[Harkback Union]

The Governor of The Sauria Tsardom has built the first Heavy Industrial plant on turn 16. This freed up 2 workers but Industrial output stagnates at 1BP / quarter due to metal shortages. There is also a significant stockpile of food.

Now, there are several options ahead before research can begin.
Focus the population on researching the 1 RP missing for Desponea geology, then built petrol extractors and a petrol plant to generate 3-6 energy per quarter.
Build a dam to generate 3 Energy.

Assuming that the goal is to get a research facility up asap.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Well, a petrol plant is more BP efficient, and you can vary its output as desired.

Plus petrol itself is very handy, in terms of storeable E. I'll be heading that way myself soon.

[Harkback Union]

Well, a petrol plant is more BP efficient, and you can vary its output as desired.

Plus petrol itself is very handy, in terms of storeable E. I'll be heading that way myself soon.

Yes, but remember, there is a Health penalty for drilling in populous areas. Although a Sanitation Facility can take care of it with a little investment.
Also, Petrol power has a larger overall BP cost and uses manpower, while Hydro power needs no manpower.

[Pac Kindom]

do Laboratory still work

[G-Tech Corporation]

do Laboratory still work

Not since Year 2 unless you've upgraded them.

[Pac Kindom]

do Laboratory still work

Not since Year 2 unless you've upgraded them.

To what may i ask

[Harkback Union]

Not since Year 2 unless you've upgraded them.

To what may i ask

The research facility!

Cost 3 BP to upgrade!

[Harkback Union]

Hey everyone, if you need help with teh computer controls, I can create a row of computers to work it and plot in your first turn.

[Pac Kindom]

thanks guyes

[The Burning Sun]

Tag - and before y'all go hating, I was invited here. By the OP. Because reasons.

Ah whatever, time to go wade through that wall of text.

[Harkback Union]

The check out IC's second post. It contains info on all the bases, including climate and their owners.