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Pre-War Poll: CIS vs. NATO who has the initial upperhand? NO.1 of 3

Poll ended at Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:15 pm

NATO, Coalition of the Free World!
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57%
CIS, Alliance of Order and Prosperity!
12
27%
Unsure, could go either way initially.
2
5%
Both alliances are going to hell in the initial run.
5
11%
 
Total votes : 44

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The New Lowlands
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Postby The New Lowlands » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:52 am

Thompson island wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:Not the same thing.

Japan today is still a monarchy.


yes but the emperor does jack sh!t pretty much. just a figurehead

Still not a republic.

Nor is there a major anti-monarchical movement.

If anything the opposite is present.

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Postby Kosovo12345 » Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:41 pm

oh hell no, Israel wants to invade Syria? Aright, Assad will just sign an agreement with ISIS and let Israel come into Syria only to be facing an ISIS army that just somehow got all the way to south Syria

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Postby Independent States of Tula » Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:42 pm

Kosovo12345 wrote:oh hell no, Israel wants to invade Syria? Aright, Assad will just sign an agreement with ISIS and let Israel come into Syria only to be facing an ISIS army that just somehow got all the way to south Syria


You're meta-gaming Kosovo...I already warned you in TG not to do it.

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Postby Reatra » Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:42 pm

Has anyone reserved Ireland?
yee haw it's time for mass line

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Postby Kosovo12345 » Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:43 pm

Independent States of Tula wrote:
Kosovo12345 wrote:oh hell no, Israel wants to invade Syria? Aright, Assad will just sign an agreement with ISIS and let Israel come into Syria only to be facing an ISIS army that just somehow got all the way to south Syria


You're meta-gaming Kosovo...I already warned you in TG not to do it.

Its a joke, im not signing no agreement with ISIS. But be warned, Assad will stop at nothing to stop a Israel army invading Syria

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Postby Benian Republic » Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:44 pm

Reatra wrote:Has anyone reserved Ireland?

Yeah me
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Anti: English Imperialism, Nazism, communism, Israel, Zionism, Margret thatcher, Martin McGuinness, good Friday agreement.
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Postby Independent States of Tula » Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:46 pm

Kosovo12345 wrote:
Independent States of Tula wrote:
You're meta-gaming Kosovo...I already warned you in TG not to do it.

Its a joke, im not signing no agreement with ISIS. But be warned, Assad will stop at nothing to stop a Israel army invading Syria


Alright, fair enough, though fighting a multi-front war against one really technologically superior enemy and two rebel forces isn't looking good for Government forces.

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Postby Independent States of Tula » Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:47 pm

Reatra wrote:Has anyone reserved Ireland?


Please be Kurdish Peshmerga? *Puppy look*

...And I guess we need an ISIS, and few other nations.

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Postby Kosovo12345 » Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:47 pm

Independent States of Tula wrote:
Kosovo12345 wrote:Its a joke, im not signing no agreement with ISIS. But be warned, Assad will stop at nothing to stop a Israel army invading Syria


Alright, fair enough, though fighting a multi-front war against one really technologically superior enemy and two rebel forces isn't looking good for Government forces.

You do realize, fighting Assad will weaken government forces and ISIS gets stronger and can very well gain control of Syrian military bases and tanks and even airplanes?

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Postby The New Lowlands » Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:49 pm

Independent States of Tula wrote:
Kosovo12345 wrote:Its a joke, im not signing no agreement with ISIS. But be warned, Assad will stop at nothing to stop a Israel army invading Syria


Alright, fair enough, though fighting a multi-front war against one really technologically superior enemy and two rebel forces isn't looking good for Government forces.

It remains in Israel's interests to stay out, tbh.

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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:49 pm

Kosovo12345 wrote:
Independent States of Tula wrote:
Alright, fair enough, though fighting a multi-front war against one really technologically superior enemy and two rebel forces isn't looking good for Government forces.

You do realize, fighting Assad will weaken government forces and ISIS gets stronger and can very well gain control of Syrian military bases and tanks and even airplanes?

The US/coalition forces will steam roll them, dw <3
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Postby Independent States of Tula » Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:51 pm

Kosovo12345 wrote:
Independent States of Tula wrote:
Alright, fair enough, though fighting a multi-front war against one really technologically superior enemy and two rebel forces isn't looking good for Government forces.

You do realize, fighting Assad will weaken government forces and ISIS gets stronger and can very well gain control of Syrian military bases and tanks and even airplanes?


I have enough air strikes and hopefully Kurdish brothers in arms to help deal with ISIS as well. I think.

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Postby Kosovo12345 » Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:52 pm

How about this? President Assad gives Free Syria land in Syria; lets say all of East Syria where most oil rigs are and then the land that borders Israel? and then the government holds the capital and Aleppo

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Postby Reatra » Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:57 pm

WE NEED ISIS?

ILL TOTALLY APPLY!
yee haw it's time for mass line

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Postby Reatra » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:02 pm

Benian Republic wrote:
Reatra wrote:Has anyone reserved Ireland?

Yeah me

Also, it'd be really nice if Ireland didn't decide to annex Ulster forcefully(I seem to know how you work in head RPs XD). If I were you I'd take a long-term approach. I'd encourage the use of the Irish language, build up the economy and quality of life to extreme levels, benefit off of the coming wars by staying neutral and being a Celtic Switzerland, and with NATO in disarray and war economy in the UK I'm sure the Ulster people will vote to join Ireland (remember that the UK promised to return it if the majority of the population wished to unite with Ireland)


THEN with the world in chaos simply work slowly towards the breakup of the UK and maybe Briton independence in France.
yee haw it's time for mass line

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Postby New Republika Srpska » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:03 pm

Kosovo12345 wrote:How about this? President Assad gives Free Syria land in Syria; lets say all of East Syria where most oil rigs are and then the land that borders Israel? and then the government holds the capital and Aleppo

You're joking me right..?
Why in the earth would Assad give away Syrian land?
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Postby Thompson island » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:05 pm

Benian Republic wrote:
Reatra wrote:Has anyone reserved Ireland?

Yeah me

Ireland do we have a deal on the thing you want us to do? ill take the 50 million euros but not a euro less.

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Postby New Republika Srpska » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:07 pm

Kosovo12345 wrote:
Independent States of Tula wrote:
Alright, fair enough, though fighting a multi-front war against one really technologically superior enemy and two rebel forces isn't looking good for Government forces.

You do realize, fighting Assad will weaken government forces and ISIS gets stronger and can very well gain control of Syrian military bases and tanks and even airplanes?

ISIS already operates one Mi-28.
It was even rumored that they operate one or two M1s. I really have no idea how the heck they managed to capture that many equipment.
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Neutral: LGBT Rights, Egypt, Morocco, Belgium, Netherlands, Norway, Iran, Sweden
Anti: Ukraine, NATO, USA, Albania, Turkey, Hungary, Germany, Saudi Arabia, Independent Kosovo, UK, Palestine, Yemen, Croatia, Bosnia & Herzegovina, FSA


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Postby Reatra » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:16 pm

I'll make some tiny edits to details, but is this good?

Name of Organization: The Islamic State of Iraq and The Levant
Leader(s): Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, Abu Ala al-Afri, Abu Suleiman al-Naser
Style of Warfare: Terrorism, straight up battles
Number of members: Roughly 60,000 fighting men and an incredible growth rate (Though hey control an area with 10 million people in it)
Countries and/or locations of operations: Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Turkey
Equipment: Mostly modern American equipment and some stuff from Iraq and Syria themselves.
Goal(s) of organization: Reestablish the Caliphate (check), gain global attention (check), claim the entirety of the Middle East (working on it)
History of Organization: I'm going to be completely honest, I really don't know past last year, except that they joined Al-Qaeda, blew up shit, merged with another group, became dominant in their region, Al-Qaeda distanced themselves from them, they continued to conquer Iraq and Syria, the Kurds tried to start killing them, the Americans made a coalition, and now they're almost at Baghdad.

Is that enough? Sorry about the history, I just want to play as an interesting country.
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yee haw it's time for mass line

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Postby New Republika Srpska » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:18 pm

Reatra wrote:I'll make some tiny edits to details, but is this good?

Name of Organization: The Islamic State in The Levant
Leader(s): Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, Abu Ala al-Afri, Abu Suleiman al-Naser
Style of Warfare: Terrorism, straight up battles
Number of members: Roughly 60,000 fighting men and an incredible growth rate (Though hey control an area with 10 million people in it)
Countries and/or locations of operations: Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Turkey
Equipment: Mostly modern American equipment and some stuff from Iraq and Syria themselves.
Goal(s) of organization: Reestablish the Caliphate (check), gain global attention (check), claim the entirety of the Middle East (working on it)
History of Organization: I'm going to be completely honest, I really don't know past last year, except that they joined Al-Qaeda, blew up shit, merged with another group, became dominant in their region, Al-Qaeda distanced themselves from them, they continued to conquer Iraq and Syria, the Kurds tried to start killing them, the Americans made a coalition, and now they're almost at Baghdad.

Is that enough? Sorry about the history, I just want to play as an interesting country.
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Looks good, just change the name to "Islamic State of Iraq and Levant".
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Neutral: LGBT Rights, Egypt, Morocco, Belgium, Netherlands, Norway, Iran, Sweden
Anti: Ukraine, NATO, USA, Albania, Turkey, Hungary, Germany, Saudi Arabia, Independent Kosovo, UK, Palestine, Yemen, Croatia, Bosnia & Herzegovina, FSA


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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:19 pm

Reatra wrote:I'll make some tiny edits to details, but is this good?

Name of Organization: The Islamic State in The Levant
Leader(s): Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, Abu Ala al-Afri, Abu Suleiman al-Naser
Style of Warfare: Terrorism, straight up battles
Number of members: Roughly 60,000 fighting men and an incredible growth rate (Though hey control an area with 10 million people in it)
Countries and/or locations of operations: Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Turkey
Equipment: Mostly modern American equipment and some stuff from Iraq and Syria themselves.
Goal(s) of organization: Reestablish the Caliphate (check), gain global attention (check), claim the entirety of the Middle East (working on it)
History of Organization: I'm going to be completely honest, I really don't know past last year, except that they joined Al-Qaeda, blew up shit, merged with another group, became dominant in their region, Al-Qaeda distanced themselves from them, they continued to conquer Iraq and Syria, the Kurds tried to start killing them, the Americans made a coalition, and now they're almost at Baghdad.

Is that enough? Sorry about the history, I just want to play as an interesting country.
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Just FYI, America, Turkey, Iran, Poland, UK, Russia, and maybe a few other nations have all declared war on you.
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Postby The New Lowlands » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:20 pm

New Republika Srpska wrote:
Kosovo12345 wrote:You do realize, fighting Assad will weaken government forces and ISIS gets stronger and can very well gain control of Syrian military bases and tanks and even airplanes?

ISIS already operates one Mi-28.
It was even rumored that they operate one or two M1s. I really have no idea how the heck they managed to capture that many equipment.

Iraqi Army had it.

The operative word being "had."

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Postby Gyrenaica » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:21 pm

Armeia wrote:
Bolovia wrote:If the new Salenko guy is pro-Moscow-esque then there is no need for invasion, thus the massive troop deployments along the border will either be switched to Poland or Georgia. This should be fun.

He views Russia as the lesser of two evils, he's against the EU

He views the nation who invaded and stole territory from his nation better than the ones who offered to give his nation lotsa money?

Legit
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Postby Independent States of Tula » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:21 pm

Soviet Chernarus wrote:
Reatra wrote:I'll make some tiny edits to details, but is this good?

Name of Organization: The Islamic State in The Levant
Leader(s): Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, Abu Ala al-Afri, Abu Suleiman al-Naser
Style of Warfare: Terrorism, straight up battles
Number of members: Roughly 60,000 fighting men and an incredible growth rate (Though hey control an area with 10 million people in it)
Countries and/or locations of operations: Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Turkey
Equipment: Mostly modern American equipment and some stuff from Iraq and Syria themselves.
Goal(s) of organization: Reestablish the Caliphate (check), gain global attention (check), claim the entirety of the Middle East (working on it)
History of Organization: I'm going to be completely honest, I really don't know past last year, except that they joined Al-Qaeda, blew up shit, merged with another group, became dominant in their region, Al-Qaeda distanced themselves from them, they continued to conquer Iraq and Syria, the Kurds tried to start killing them, the Americans made a coalition, and now they're almost at Baghdad.

Is that enough? Sorry about the history, I just want to play as an interesting country.
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Just FYI, America, Turkey, Iran, Poland, UK, Russia, and maybe a few other nations have all declared war on you.


Oui!!! Operation: Nightsong is intended to help destroy Daesh too.

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Postby New Republika Srpska » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:21 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:
New Republika Srpska wrote:ISIS already operates one Mi-28.
It was even rumored that they operate one or two M1s. I really have no idea how the heck they managed to capture that many equipment.

Iraqi Army had it.

The operative word being "had."

But no longer has it.
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