Star Wars: Galactic Schisms/OOC-Sign Ups Thread

[Hangar 18]

Alright, here's about the area controlled by the CIS.

http://i.imgur.com/l5R1RCO.gif

Blue - Territories Directly Part of CIS
Green - Territories Sympathetic With/Supporting CIS

[Segmentia]

I think the CIS and Rebel Alliance should merge

The old enemy of the Republic merging with the group that wants to bring back the Republic.

That would be amusing.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Certainly a reasonable amount of the IGBC support the CIS cause. But that didn't stop them from backing both sides last war.

Indeed- surrounded by some worlds which have defected to the CIS, some which have gone over to the Rebellion, some which are still loyal, and not inconsiderable amounts of CIS warships. But the Imperial presence in the area of Muunlist is also not inconsiderable. Those battlestations, for instance, were without a doubt staffed by Imperial Navy elements.

The blue areas on the map are in nearly full control of the CIS. Any Imperial activity is most certainly not outright, as, there is still a reasonable amount of ships there, around 25,000 ships in that space, and approximately 100 billion active battle droids there, with a massive amount ready in reserve.

In other words, the planets in blue have so far seceded, and more or less ousted their Imperial oppressors. Sure, there still is probably fighting on the rim of the territory, but nothing that won't be ended by the droid army soon.

Did the OP approve that? Or is this what you're proposing as the status quo at the start of the RP as a CIS player? I'm not quite clear where you're getting your history from.

[New Neros]

I think the CIS and Rebel Alliance should merge

They were merged previously - Malevolence began a new CIS, to which most of the Separatists who aligned with the Rebels flocked towards.

Certainly a reasonable amount of the IGBC support the CIS cause. But that didn't stop them from backing both sides last war.

Indeed- surrounded by some worlds which have defected to the CIS, some which have gone over to the Rebellion, some which are still loyal, and not inconsiderable amounts of CIS warships. But the Imperial presence in the area of Muunlist is also not inconsiderable. Those battlestations, for instance, were without a doubt staffed by Imperial Navy elements.

They were actually bought by the Muuns for self-defense. Empire treated the Muuns with a certain level of respect, enough so that they didn't crash the Galactic economy.

You understand that space is the stronghold of the Confederacy, right? Where the bulk of our forces are and our most vehemently loyal worlds lie? Empire does not have free reign over it, and a Moff showing up right smack in the middle would be watched very carefully, and needless to say, would be surrounded by Seppies.

[New Neros]

The blue areas on the map are in nearly full control of the CIS. Any Imperial activity is most certainly not outright, as, there is still a reasonable amount of ships there, around 25,000 ships in that space, and approximately 100 billion active battle droids there, with a massive amount ready in reserve.

In other words, the planets in blue have so far seceded, and more or less ousted their Imperial oppressors. Sure, there still is probably fighting on the rim of the territory, but nothing that won't be ended by the droid army soon.

Did the OP approve that? Or is this what you're proposing as the status quo at the start of the RP as a CIS player? I'm not quite clear where you're getting your history from.

Well, the history Rob/Hang Man wrote for the CIS was approved by Rebel. In other words, yes, this is OP approved.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Did the OP approve that? Or is this what you're proposing as the status quo at the start of the RP as a CIS player? I'm not quite clear where you're getting your history from.

Well, the history Rob/Hang Man wrote for the CIS was approved by Rebel. In other words, yes, this is OP approved.

Hmm, would've been nice to see somewhere other than right now.

Even so, that's leaving hundreds of thousands of Imperial vessels and billions of Imperial soldiers unaccounted for. Not to mention planetary governors, Moffs, garrisons, civil servants, ectectera. They didn't just evaporate to accommodate this new fiat CIS I assume.

[Hangar 18]

I think the CIS and Rebel Alliance should merge

The old enemy of the Republic merging with the group that wants to bring back the Republic.

That would be amusing.

Actually, a temporary alliance wouldn't be out of the question.

The blue areas on the map are in nearly full control of the CIS. Any Imperial activity is most certainly not outright, as, there is still a reasonable amount of ships there, around 25,000 ships in that space, and approximately 100 billion active battle droids there, with a massive amount ready in reserve.

In other words, the planets in blue have so far seceded, and more or less ousted their Imperial oppressors. Sure, there still is probably fighting on the rim of the territory, but nothing that won't be ended by the droid army soon.

Did the OP approve that? Or is this what you're proposing as the status quo at the start of the RP as a CIS player? I'm not quite clear where you're getting your history from.

It's already been stated that Kalee and several planets around it successfully seceded. I would say that there is likely still fighting going on Garqui, Old Biniir, Dubrillion and Bastion. Not heavy fighting, but likely quick skirmishes between the locals accompanied by some droids, and some remaining Stormtroopers.

Well, the history Rob/Hang Man wrote for the CIS was approved by Rebel. In other words, yes, this is OP approved.

Hmm, would've been nice to see somewhere other than right now.

Even so, that's leaving hundreds of thousands of Imperial vessels and billions of Imperial soldiers unaccounted for. Not to mention planetary governors, Moffs, garrisons, civil servants, ectectera. They didn't just evaporate to accommodate this new fiat CIS I assume.

I'd say it's more likely that they were killed by droids, Kaleesh warriors and locals of each planet.

[New Neros]

Well, the history Rob/Hang Man wrote for the CIS was approved by Rebel. In other words, yes, this is OP approved.

Hmm, would've been nice to see somewhere other than right now.

Even so, that's leaving hundreds of thousands of Imperial vessels and billions of Imperial soldiers unaccounted for. Not to mention planetary governors, Moffs, garrisons, civil servants, ectectera. They didn't just evaporate to accommodate this new fiat CIS I assume.

No, no it's not leaving them unaccounted for. Those are either Confederate victories (destroyed) or fled elsewhere. Stop assuming and causing further problems just for the sake of causing them. You aren't looking cool or knowledgeable from it, you just look like an ass. Have a fuckin' imagination and work with other people instead of just wanting to do your own way every single time, we are frankly very tired of it.

[Dixmix]

Alright, here's about the area controlled by the CIS.

http://i.imgur.com/l5R1RCO.gif

Blue - Territories Directly Part of CIS
Green - Territories Sympathetic With/Supporting CIS

Well, looks like we may meet after all.

[G-Tech Corporation]

The old enemy of the Republic merging with the group that wants to bring back the Republic.

That would be amusing.

Actually, a temporary alliance wouldn't be out of the question.

Did the OP approve that? Or is this what you're proposing as the status quo at the start of the RP as a CIS player? I'm not quite clear where you're getting your history from.

It's already been stated that Kalee and several planets around it successfully seceded. I would say that there is likely still fighting going on Garqui, Old Biniir, Dubrillion and Bastion. Not heavy fighting, but likely quick skirmishes between the locals accompanied by some droids, and some remaining Stormtroopers.

Hmm, would've been nice to see somewhere other than right now.

Even so, that's leaving hundreds of thousands of Imperial vessels and billions of Imperial soldiers unaccounted for. Not to mention planetary governors, Moffs, garrisons, civil servants, ectectera. They didn't just evaporate to accommodate this new fiat CIS I assume.

I'd say it's more likely that they were killed by droids, Kaleesh warriors and locals of each planet.

Mm, that seems implausible. No offense to your new CIS's military might, but even twenty five thousand Separatist vessels wouldn't have been able to clear away the ~100,000-120,000 vessels stationed in the entirety of Zsinj's Oversector, which corresponds closely to the CIS's holdings. I can certainly buy that the CIS holds many worlds in the region, and has a strong operational presence; but Zsinj was no slouch, and neither were his subordinates. Even if many worlds are restive, and others in open rebellion, that wouldn't have completely eliminated the Empire's force projection abilities in the region- the Empire, after all, essentially held a monopoly on military force in their controlled space, meaning individual worlds even if they wished to likely didn't have the capabilities to do so.

[Hangar 18]

Actually, a temporary alliance wouldn't be out of the question.



It's already been stated that Kalee and several planets around it successfully seceded. I would say that there is likely still fighting going on Garqui, Old Biniir, Dubrillion and Bastion. Not heavy fighting, but likely quick skirmishes between the locals accompanied by some droids, and some remaining Stormtroopers.



I'd say it's more likely that they were killed by droids, Kaleesh warriors and locals of each planet.

Mm, that seems implausible. No offense to your new CIS's military might, but even twenty five thousand Separatist vessels wouldn't have been able to clear away the ~100,000-120,000 vessels stationed in the entirety of Zsinj's Oversector, which corresponds closely to the CIS's holdings. I can certainly buy that the CIS holds many worlds in the region, and has a strong operational presence; but Zsinj was no slouch, and neither were his subordinates. Even if many worlds are restive, and others in open rebellion, that wouldn't have completely eliminated the Empire's force projection abilities in the region- the Empire, after all, essentially held a monopoly on military force in their controlled space, meaning individual worlds even if they wished to likely didn't have the capabilities to do so.

I swear to God, it's like you only read what you want to read.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Hmm, would've been nice to see somewhere other than right now.

Even so, that's leaving hundreds of thousands of Imperial vessels and billions of Imperial soldiers unaccounted for. Not to mention planetary governors, Moffs, garrisons, civil servants, ectectera. They didn't just evaporate to accommodate this new fiat CIS I assume.

No, no it's not leaving them unaccounted for. Those are either Confederate victories (destroyed) or fled elsewhere. Stop assuming and causing further problems just for the sake of causing them. You aren't looking cool or knowledgeable from it, you just look like an ass. Have a fuckin' imagination and work with other people instead of just wanting to do your own way every single time, we are frankly very tired of it.

Neros, you're starting to make me think you have a problem with me. Have I been uncivil to you in the past? All I'm asking about is a clarification on what happened to the Imperial presence in an entire oversector, which isn't exactly unreasonable, as until now nobody has known about anything of the sort aside from a TG conversation that only Rebels and Hangar were privy to. My imagination works just fine, thanks- I just like to know what's going on and why, instead of suddenly finding out a tenth of the galaxy I thought the Moff Council controlled is actually gone, along with a massive amount of military resources and characters.

I mean, you can swear at me if you need to get something out of your system, since I don't particularly care. But others might, so you probably don't want to make a habit of it.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Mm, that seems implausible. No offense to your new CIS's military might, but even twenty five thousand Separatist vessels wouldn't have been able to clear away the ~100,000-120,000 vessels stationed in the entirety of Zsinj's Oversector, which corresponds closely to the CIS's holdings. I can certainly buy that the CIS holds many worlds in the region, and has a strong operational presence; but Zsinj was no slouch, and neither were his subordinates. Even if many worlds are restive, and others in open rebellion, that wouldn't have completely eliminated the Empire's force projection abilities in the region- the Empire, after all, essentially held a monopoly on military force in their controlled space, meaning individual worlds even if they wished to likely didn't have the capabilities to do so.

I swear to God, it's like you only read what you want to read.

And I swear to His Noodleiness, it's like you and Neros just think the CIS should rule the galaxy instantly because reasons (oh wait no, no reasons).

[Hangar 18]

I swear to God, it's like you only read what you want to read.

And I swear to His Noodleiness, it's like you and Neros just think the CIS should rule the galaxy instantly because reasons (oh wait no, no reasons).

I already stated that many of the worlds that aren't in the direct vicinity of the CIS powerhouse systems are likely still fighting.

[G-Tech Corporation]

And I swear to His Noodleiness, it's like you and Neros just think the CIS should rule the galaxy instantly because reasons (oh wait no, no reasons).

I already stated that many of the worlds that aren't in the direct vicinity of the CIS powerhouse systems are likely still fighting.

Which I quite concur with. As I said, the area around Muunlist isn't purely Seperatist, but rather divided between the Rebels, Empire, and Seppies, with the Separatists having the strongest operational presence.

In which case an Imperial Moff showing up on Muunlist makes sense, no? I mean, Muunlist is still technically ruled by the Empire, even if the IGBC has Separatist collaboration in the works.

[New Neros]

No, no it's not leaving them unaccounted for. Those are either Confederate victories (destroyed) or fled elsewhere. Stop assuming and causing further problems just for the sake of causing them. You aren't looking cool or knowledgeable from it, you just look like an ass. Have a fuckin' imagination and work with other people instead of just wanting to do your own way every single time, we are frankly very tired of it.

Neros, you're starting to make me think you have a problem with me. Have I been uncivil to you in the past? All I'm asking about is a clarification on what happened to the Imperial presence in an entire oversector, which isn't exactly unreasonable, as until now nobody has known about anything of the sort aside from a TG conversation that only Rebels and Hangar were privy to. My imagination works just fine, thanks- I just like to know what's going on and why, instead of suddenly finding out a tenth of the galaxy I thought the Moff Council controlled is actually gone, along with a massive amount of military resources and characters.

I mean, you can swear at me if you need to get something out of your system, since I don't particularly care. But others might, so you probably don't want to make a habit of it.

Yes - I do, I have a problem with the way you decide to treat others. You are very uncivil and attempt to hide your venom in thinly sprinkled "civility" that amounts only to mild flambaiting. If I provided you with anything - anything - in regards to that sector, will call me out and try to parade around me like you are so god-sent to my lowly stupidity and understanding while providing no context other than "By my logic..." which amounts to absolutely zip. You know this is true - even if I had George Lucas himself saying it, you'd just politely ignore it for the sake of your own ego.

I can swear at you all I want, and you do care, otherwise you wouldn't respond to it. You have no position to tell me what I should or shouldn't do.

Now then, I am a Co-OP, and since I'm very done with your shit, this will be an initial warning from me. No more flamebaiting and attempts at arguments, are we clear? And before you get up in arms, no, you are not a Co-OP. As far as the OP is concerned, it's me and Hangar right now.

I swear to God, it's like you only read what you want to read.

And I swear to His Noodleiness, it's like you and Neros just think the CIS should rule the galaxy instantly because reasons (oh wait no, no reasons).

I'm afraid you don't even know us. No, we're not here to win. We're here to write out a story, tell our own tale, but some fuckup wants to have his precious Empire curbstomp everyone. Knock it off, it's not cute, it doesn't make you look smart, it makes you look like a complete ass.

[Hangar 18]

I already stated that many of the worlds that aren't in the direct vicinity of the CIS powerhouse systems are likely still fighting.

Which I quite concur with. As I said, the area around Muunlist isn't purely Seperatist, but rather divided between the Rebels, Empire, and Seppies, with the Separatists having the strongest operational presence.

In which case an Imperial Moff showing up on Muunlist makes sense, no? I mean, Muunlist is still technically ruled by the Empire, even if the IGBC has Separatist collaboration in the works.

I never said he couldn't show up. I just thought you were saying that you'd get info from the Muuns working with the CIS.

Misunderstanding. Although, it should be noted that Rebel presence shouldn't be that strong.

Neros, calm down, and get some sleep or something.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Neros, you're starting to make me think you have a problem with me. Have I been uncivil to you in the past? All I'm asking about is a clarification on what happened to the Imperial presence in an entire oversector, which isn't exactly unreasonable, as until now nobody has known about anything of the sort aside from a TG conversation that only Rebels and Hangar were privy to. My imagination works just fine, thanks- I just like to know what's going on and why, instead of suddenly finding out a tenth of the galaxy I thought the Moff Council controlled is actually gone, along with a massive amount of military resources and characters.

I mean, you can swear at me if you need to get something out of your system, since I don't particularly care. But others might, so you probably don't want to make a habit of it.

Yes - I do, I have a problem with the way you decide to treat others. You are very uncivil and attempt to hide your venom in thinly sprinkled "civility" that amounts only to mild flambaiting. If I provided you with anything - anything - in regards to that sector, will call me out and try to parade around me like you are so god-sent to my lowly stupidity and understanding while providing no context other than "By my logic..." which amounts to absolutely zip. You know this is true - even if I had George Lucas himself saying it, you'd just politely ignore it for the sake of your own ego.

I can swear at you all I want, and you do care, otherwise you wouldn't respond to it. You have no position to tell me what I should or shouldn't do.

Now then, I am a Co-OP, and since I'm very done with your shit, this will be an initial warning from me. No more flamebaiting and attempts at arguments, are we clear? And before you get up in arms, no, you are not a Co-OP. As far as the OP is concerned, it's me and Hangar right now.

And I swear to His Noodleiness, it's like you and Neros just think the CIS should rule the galaxy instantly because reasons (oh wait no, no reasons).

I'm afraid you don't even know us. No, we're not here to win. We're here to write out a story, tell our own tale, but some fuckup wants to have his precious Empire curbstomp everyone. Knock it off, it's not cute, it doesn't make you look smart, it makes you look like a complete ass.

I'm quite serious- at what point have I been uncivil to you? So far we've only been having discussions about a knotty source material, which understandably can be interpreted from multiple angles. Reaching a mutual agreement that can be worked with involves reconciling those angles, and that reconciliation can only be accomplished through conversation; if we don't discuss things then we'll merely be writing past each other, and that's simply pointless.

As far as your comment on "by my logic", don't we all use logic in our writing? I've seen one or two sources get thrown around for one or two statements, but you can reference my statement above for how good it is to try and interpret source material without dialogue between writers, which is especially delicate when in a somewhat competitive setting. Take the case of the size of the CIS's deplorable strength for example- Hangar and I had a good discussion about why they're a legitimate faction despite possessing quadrillions of soldiers. I learned of several key weaknesses which persuaded me they're not a roflstomp faction, and Hangar gained an understanding of my concerns about the accuracy of statements relating to the army's size. At the end of it we both came out wiser and better able to write collaboratively instead of combatively, despite occasional points of tension.

Yes, I do mind swearing- not because I'm personally offended by it, but because it doesn't exactly help the RP, does it? If every time I object to something Dread does I say you're writing a "shit-for-brains cockmunching author avatar insert of a robotfucker", that doesn't exactly incline you to take any of my concerns with an open mind. We're not going to get a better thread by upping our amount of generally offense words.

Warning duly noted. I would love to see some specific examples cited, however, if you don't mind. Transparent process and all that.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Which I quite concur with. As I said, the area around Muunlist isn't purely Seperatist, but rather divided between the Rebels, Empire, and Seppies, with the Separatists having the strongest operational presence.

In which case an Imperial Moff showing up on Muunlist makes sense, no? I mean, Muunlist is still technically ruled by the Empire, even if the IGBC has Separatist collaboration in the works.

I never said he couldn't show up. I just thought you were saying that you'd get info from the Muuns working with the CIS.

Misunderstanding. Although, it should be noted that Rebel presence shouldn't be that strong.

Neros, calm down, and get some sleep or something.

Oh no, haha no. I was just going to say the guards noticed an obviously Confederate presence, which the Moff would logically assume has to do with the CIS trying to gain funds from the IGBC and influence on Muunlist. Not to mention even the dooziest of spy would have noticed the mass panic when a battle station targeted a major city.

That might be a good point- presumably the Republic and CIS are both pulling from the same pool of restive planets, and this areas historical links to the CIS would see the majority of potential member worlds end up with the CIS instead of the Rebellion.

[Segmentia]

Did the 501st...land their Star Destroyer? Or am I reading that wrong?

[Hangar 18]

Did the 501st...land their Star Destroyer? Or am I reading that wrong?

I'd assume. That would be ridiculous.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Did the 501st...land their Star Destroyer? Or am I reading that wrong?

I'd assume. That would be ridiculous.

"Whoops." - All Those Dead Guys, 4 ABY

[Imperial--japan]

Welp. Now that Jedi Academy killed me via elevator, I should vent my frustrations in a post. I've been putting off Selonna anyways. Ah, and the planet Venestria needs some love.

[The NAR]

Did the 501st...land their Star Destroyer? Or am I reading that wrong?

I had no part in that. I have been in a shuttle

[Dixmix]

So, how hard would it be to take for me to take over Hutt Space?