Star Wars: Galactic Schisms/OOC-Sign Ups Thread

[Hangar 18]

Anyway, my point through this whole discussion is that we should perhaps take our figures with a grain of salt, and contemplate more reasonable interpretations. I can't find the original source material for the wikis that state the CIS had quintillions of troops, nor those that state sizes for the GAR.

One Clone Trooper was interpreted to be worth about twenty standard B1 battle droids, fifty after the sabotage the ARC troopers conducted on central designs. What do folks think would be a reasonable interpretation of the total strength of the Republic, including local defense forces, at the time of the end of the Clone Wars?

It's pointless to talk about honestly, so, I'm done feeding the argument. The RP isn't set in the Clone Wars, so, the Grand Army of the Republic's size is not important.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Anyway, my point through this whole discussion is that we should perhaps take our figures with a grain of salt, and contemplate more reasonable interpretations. I can't find the original source material for the wikis that state the CIS had quintillions of troops, nor those that state sizes for the GAR.

One Clone Trooper was interpreted to be worth about twenty standard B1 battle droids, fifty after the sabotage the ARC troopers conducted on central designs. What do folks think would be a reasonable interpretation of the total strength of the Republic, including local defense forces, at the time of the end of the Clone Wars?

It's pointless to talk about honestly, so, I'm done feeding the argument. The RP isn't set in the Clone Wars, so, the Grand Army of the Republic's size is not important.

The GAR's size is important to talk about in order to establish a reasonable size for the CIS army, which is part of this RP.

Let me put it this way- armies of trillions shouldn't exist in the same setting as quintillions. That's the same as saying a company of a hundred is operating on an equivalent basis with an army group of a million. Since the EU is indeterminate as fuck about this, it falls to us to consider it.

[Hangar 18]

It's pointless to talk about honestly, so, I'm done feeding the argument. The RP isn't set in the Clone Wars, so, the Grand Army of the Republic's size is not important.

The GAR's size is important to talk about in order to establish a reasonable size for the CIS army, which is part of this RP.

Let me put it this way- armies of trillions shouldn't exist in the same setting as quintillions. That's the same as saying a company of a hundred is operating on an equivalent basis with an army group of a million. Since the EU is indeterminate as fuck about this, it falls to us to consider it.

Um, no...

We're going off of the Wiki, and that's it. We've already established that an army of that size is a logistical nightmare to deploy even 1% of 1% at once, and even our army of 500 quadrillion is made more than 99.9% of simple reserves. Only several hundred million can be deployed at a time. We have weaknesses that have been established, so, there is nothing left to argue about.

[G-Tech Corporation]

The GAR's size is important to talk about in order to establish a reasonable size for the CIS army, which is part of this RP.

Let me put it this way- armies of trillions shouldn't exist in the same setting as quintillions. That's the same as saying a company of a hundred is operating on an equivalent basis with an army group of a million. Since the EU is indeterminate as fuck about this, it falls to us to consider it.

Um, no...

We're going off of the Wiki, and that's it. We've already established that an army of that size is a logistical nightmare to deploy even 1% of 1% at once, and even our army of 500 quadrillion is made more than 99.9% of simple reserves. Only several hundred million can be deployed at a time. We have weaknesses that have been established, so, there is nothing left to argue about.

So, you think reserves equivalent to fifty droids of various guises for every sentient in the galaxy, CIS, Empire, Rebel, and unaligned, are reasonable?

[Hangar 18]

Um, no...

We're going off of the Wiki, and that's it. We've already established that an army of that size is a logistical nightmare to deploy even 1% of 1% at once, and even our army of 500 quadrillion is made more than 99.9% of simple reserves. Only several hundred million can be deployed at a time. We have weaknesses that have been established, so, there is nothing left to argue about.

So, you think reserves equivalent to fifty droids of various guises for every sentient in the galaxy, CIS, Empire, Rebel, and unaligned, are reasonable?

When 65% of them are like this, yes, I do. The CIS's weaknesses lie in it's subpar fleet, which, as you're so fond of pointing out, is not as good as the Empire's as a whole.

[G-Tech Corporation]

So, you think reserves equivalent to fifty droids of various guises for every sentient in the galaxy, CIS, Empire, Rebel, and unaligned, are reasonable?

When 65% of them are like this, yes, I do. The CIS's weaknesses lie in it's subpar fleet, which, as you're so fond of pointing out, is not as good as the Empire's as a whole.

Whelp, if you don't see any issue with fifty droids for every arbitrary civilian and child, there's nothing more I can do. Eh.

[Greater Dmanian]

500 quadrillion? I can already see a planet that has surface composing of this.

Now I know why we have shows like Storage Wars because Grevious bought out so many storages and deposit boxes that he had to enter another reality to find the space he needed when the Clone wars ended (Plus he avoids tax)

[Hangar 18]

When 65% of them are like this, yes, I do. The CIS's weaknesses lie in it's subpar fleet, which, as you're so fond of pointing out, is not as good as the Empire's as a whole.

Whelp, if you don't see any issue with fifty droids for every arbitrary civilian and child, there's nothing more I can do. Eh.

There will only be a several hundred million able to be deployed at one time, as any more wouldn't be efficient in terms of our number of commanders. It wasn't really a problem during the Clone Wars, so it's not really a problem now.

Instead of bitching about our strength, why don't you take a better look at our weaknesses, which show that, if forced into extended combat, our fleets don't stand a chance against your's. If the blitzkrieg style attacks fail, we will more than certainly lose the battles in space.

[Lunas Legion]

Whelp, if you don't see any issue with fifty droids for every arbitrary civilian and child, there's nothing more I can do. Eh.

There will only be a several hundred million able to be deployed at one time, as any more wouldn't be efficient in terms of our number of commanders. It wasn't really a problem during the Clone Wars, so it's not really a problem now.

Instead of bitching about our strength, why don't you take a better look at our weaknesses, which show that, if forced into extended combat, our fleets don't stand a chance against your's. If the blitzkrieg style attacks fail, we will more than certainly lose the battles in space.

The CIS, even if it retook and repaired the Mustafar and Geonosis factories, still has one major vulnerability; it doesn't hold any of the major starship manufacturers.

[Hangar 18]

There will only be a several hundred million able to be deployed at one time, as any more wouldn't be efficient in terms of our number of commanders. It wasn't really a problem during the Clone Wars, so it's not really a problem now.

Instead of bitching about our strength, why don't you take a better look at our weaknesses, which show that, if forced into extended combat, our fleets don't stand a chance against your's. If the blitzkrieg style attacks fail, we will more than certainly lose the battles in space.

The CIS, even if it retook and repaired the Mustafar and Geonosis factories, still has one major vulnerability; it doesn't hold any of the major starship manufacturers.

The Geonosis factories don't need to be repaired. The Imperial self destruct system was shut down.

That's right, it is indeed a major weakness. Extended space combat is not something that we want to get involved with, unless we are facing a smaller fleet, or one of less advanced ships.

[Greater Dmanian]

I have no problem with them having a metric-shit ton of droids as its pretty clear that they (so far) don't have the capabilities of moving enough for the metric-shit ton to have an effect G fears, and for obvious reasons would have to keep them shut down in storage facilities to replace those they lose which balances out how awful some models of droids. The Empire has access to facilities that could create another SSD if they so pleased.

Ah the self destruct, lucky you killed that Officer anyway because I'd have killed him myself. I'd expect every last man with the authority to do that on my ship to kill themselves before doing that. Afterall Imperial Intelligence.

[Hangar 18]

I have no problem with them having a metric-shit ton of droids as its pretty clear that they (so far) don't have the capabilities of moving enough for the metric-shit ton to have an effect and for obvious reasons would have to keep them shut down in storage facilities to replace those they lose which balances out how awful some models of droids. The Empire has access to facilities that could create another SSD if they so pleased.

Well, don't be fooled by the fact we can't move them all. We can still have close to a billion active at one time, which would allow for hundreds of millions to be available for larger battles, and 10-100 million to be available for smaller ones. And, one of the two Subjugator-class heavy cruisers are in a space battle, it can tip the tides if there is not an SSD around. But, even so, space battles are our major weakness, and ground battles are our major strength.

[Hangar 18]

Ah the self destruct, lucky you killed that Officer anyway because I'd have killed him myself. I'd expect every last man with the authority to do that on my ship to kill themselves before doing that. Afterall Imperial Intelligence.

The key to getting somebody to divulge information is to make them fear you more than they fear the authorities on their side. I like to think my methods were pretty creative

[Greater Dmanian]

The key to getting somebody to divulge information is to make them fear you more than they fear the authorities on their side. I like to think my methods were pretty creative

Ah well I like to think the troops under me are not motivated by the fear of failure but loyalty to the cause or atleast to eachother but we are talking about the Empire, and with people like Vader choking officers to death I cannot imagine how easily they killed grunts.

[Lunas Legion]

The CIS, even if it retook and repaired the Mustafar and Geonosis factories, still has one major vulnerability; it doesn't hold any of the major starship manufacturers.

The Geonosis factories don't need to be repaired. The Imperial self destruct system was shut down.

That's right, it is indeed a major weakness. Extended space combat is not something that we want to get involved with, unless we are facing a smaller fleet, or one of less advanced ships.

I was thinking more about the massive wear and tear after 20 years of non-operation.

[Hangar 18]

The Geonosis factories don't need to be repaired. The Imperial self destruct system was shut down.

That's right, it is indeed a major weakness. Extended space combat is not something that we want to get involved with, unless we are facing a smaller fleet, or one of less advanced ships.

I was thinking more about the massive wear and tear after 20 years of non-operation.

The Empire also used them for constructing parts for the Death Star.

[Lunas Legion]

I was thinking more about the massive wear and tear after 20 years of non-operation.

The Empire also used them for constructing parts for the Death Star.

I did not know that, but even so, they wouldn't have reactivated the factories in full for that. Plus if they had they'd need the production lines retooled back to droid production.

[Hangar 18]

The Empire also used them for constructing parts for the Death Star.

I did not know that, but even so, they wouldn't have reactivated the factories in full for that. Plus if they had they'd need the production lines retooled back to droid production.

Of course, it will take some time. But, I'd also assume these factories were built to last, and the damage is not as extensive as one of a real life factory's would be. But, a slightly disrepaired factory is better than a blown up one

[Lunas Legion]

I did not know that, but even so, they wouldn't have reactivated the factories in full for that. Plus if they had they'd need the production lines retooled back to droid production.

Of course, it will take some time. But, I'd also assume these factories were built to last, and the damage is not as extensive as one of a real life factory's would be. But, a slightly disrepaired factory is better than a blown up one

Yup.

[Imperial--japan]

I come back to two pages of CIS debate.

Good talk.

[Slakonian]

Hey guys wassup, I am going to post soon(in a few hours probably), I was watching the news about my country(Greece). I am prttey worried......

[Dixmix]

Hey guys wassup, I am going to post soon(in a few hours probably), I was watching the news about my country(Greece). I am prttey worried......

Is it getting worse over there?

[Slakonian]

Hey guys wassup, I am going to post soon(in a few hours probably), I was watching the news about my country(Greece). I am prttey worried......

Is it getting worse over there?

It is, near my city there have been hooligans throwing molotovs right now. I work as a merchant and if those fuck ups don't make an agreement with the EU I am personally fucked due half my industrial products come from Bulgaria.........

[Dixmix]

Is it getting worse over there?

It is, near my city there have been hooligans throwing molotovs right now. I work as a merchant and if those fuck ups don't make an agreement with the EU I am personally fucked due half my industrial products come from Bulgaria.........

That is bad, I hope it doesn't go any worse over there and you don't get out of work.

[New Neros]

Of course, it will take some time. But, I'd also assume these factories were built to last, and the damage is not as extensive as one of a real life factory's would be. But, a slightly disrepaired factory is better than a blown up one

Yup.

And they could be up and going relatively quickly if we have droids building them! Never sleep, never get tired, just work.

I come back to two pages of CIS debate.

Good talk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX3JgSJ ... tu.be&t=2s

It is, near my city there have been hooligans throwing molotovs right now. I work as a merchant and if those fuck ups don't make an agreement with the EU I am personally fucked due half my industrial products come from Bulgaria.........

That is bad, I hope it doesn't go any worse over there and you don't get out of work.

Keep yourself safe, homie.