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The Republic of Atria
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Postby The Republic of Atria » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:07 am

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Siliarba wrote:I don't know what Doomsday's stats are, but I just feel in my head he is stronger than ss3 saiyan. I don't know enough of SSG to speak about that level. Also if I remember correctly, Superdoom is stronger by default even when holding back, because he sucks at holding back and he can't hold back durability.

This isn't SSJ3, I've already stated Perfect Saiyan is far stronger. Stronger than SSJG as well. Stronger than SSJGSS as well. But, as I said, it will be mostly a stomp on Superdoom's part, up until the end.


>Is stronger than God ki.

How? What's the explanation here?

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Postby New Rob Halfordia » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:15 am

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New Rob Halfordia wrote:This isn't SSJ3, I've already stated Perfect Saiyan is far stronger. Stronger than SSJG as well. Stronger than SSJGSS as well. But, as I said, it will be mostly a stomp on Superdoom's part, up until the end.


>Is stronger than God ki.

How? What's the explanation here?

It is Perfect Ki. Also, it is worth noting he is still not as strong as our Beerus, who has been buffed to Darkseid/Thanos level for reasons of relevance.
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Postby The Republic of Atria » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:17 am

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The Republic of Atria wrote:
>Is stronger than God ki.

How? What's the explanation here?

It is Perfect Ki. Also, it is worth noting he is still not as strong as our Beerus, who has been buffed to Darkseid/Thanos level for reasons of relevance.


You're still basically saying God Ki>Perfect Ki.

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Postby New Rob Halfordia » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:19 am

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New Rob Halfordia wrote:It is Perfect Ki. Also, it is worth noting he is still not as strong as our Beerus, who has been buffed to Darkseid/Thanos level for reasons of relevance.


You're still basically saying God Ki>Perfect Ki.

Really, it's entirely relative to how much of it you have. While, yes, God Ki > Perfect Ki, the average SSJG does not have enough to come out equal to PSJ.
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Postby The Republic of Atria » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:21 am

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The Republic of Atria wrote:
You're still basically saying God Ki>Perfect Ki.

Really, it's entirely relative to how much of it you have. While, yes, God Ki > Perfect Ki, the average SSJG does not have enough to come out equal to PSJ.


Alright. :roll:

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Postby New Rob Halfordia » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:23 am

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New Rob Halfordia wrote:Really, it's entirely relative to how much of it you have. While, yes, God Ki > Perfect Ki, the average SSJG does not have enough to come out equal to PSJ.


Alright. :roll:

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Postby The Republic of Atria » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:24 am

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Alright. :roll:

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Postby Mavorpen » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:24 am

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New Rob Halfordia wrote:Really, it's entirely relative to how much of it you have. While, yes, God Ki > Perfect Ki, the average SSJG does not have enough to come out equal to PSJ.


Alright. :roll:

I don't see why you expect it to make a lot of sense considering even the creator of the series fails at that.

Besides, it's IJ. It doesn't really need to make sense. :p
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby The Republic of Atria » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:26 am

Mavorpen wrote:
The Republic of Atria wrote:
Alright. :roll:

I don't see why you expect it to make a lot of sense considering even the creator of the series fails at that.

Besides, it's IJ. It doesn't really need to make sense. :p


Fair point.

Oh no, I'm okay with bullshit. I just want an explanation for the bullshit. However stupid.

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Postby Mavorpen » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:27 am

The Republic of Atria wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:I don't see why you expect it to make a lot of sense considering even the creator of the series fails at that.

Besides, it's IJ. It doesn't really need to make sense. :p


Fair point.

Oh no, I'm okay with bullshit. I just want an explanation for the bullshit. However stupid.

Also a fair point.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby New Rob Halfordia » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:27 am

The Republic of Atria wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:I don't see why you expect it to make a lot of sense considering even the creator of the series fails at that.

Besides, it's IJ. It doesn't really need to make sense. :p


Fair point.

Oh no, I'm okay with bullshit. I just want an explanation for the bullshit. However stupid.

My explanations are notoriously DBZ in their bullshittery.
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Postby Siliarba » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:30 am

It's beginning to sound like those fanfictions where they can go SS50 or something stupid.

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Postby The Republic of Atria » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:32 am

Siliarba wrote:It's beginning to sound like those fanfictions where they can go SS50 or something stupid.


Ehh.

Alex's Bullshit=Magic

Killian's Bullshit=Speed Force

Naja's Bullshit= Molecular Manipulation she doesn't understand.

Besides. This is effectively just fanfiction. Everyone wanted to be a superhero/villain at one point.

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Postby New Rob Halfordia » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:33 am

Siliarba wrote:It's beginning to sound like those fanfictions where they can go SS50 or something stupid.

No, that's retarded. This actually has some backstory planned by Neros and I. DBZ is my specialty Sili, do not underestimate my ability.
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Postby New Rnclave » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:33 am

The Republic of Atria wrote:
New Rob Halfordia wrote:Really, it's entirely relative to how much of it you have. While, yes, God Ki > Perfect Ki, the average SSJG does not have enough to come out equal to PSJ.


Alright. :roll:


Hmm, now SSJG is gonna be less impressive once Hiroshi becomes one :p Unless he's equal to Beerus
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Postby Tomia » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:34 am

I'll post for Samantha in a little while and have the Grimm enter the devil's den. I'll have the Flame Guard come in a little while after.

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Postby New Rob Halfordia » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:35 am

New Rnclave wrote:
The Republic of Atria wrote:
Alright. :roll:


Hmm, now SSJG is gonna be less impressive once Hiroshi becomes one :p Unless he's equal to Beerus

But, do you have a reason for him being that powerful? And another question, can you handle that much powaaaah?
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Postby Siliarba » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:37 am

I meant the trying to explain why was silly, I mean, they never needed to explain any transformation in DBZ, it was just, accepted ^^.

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Postby New Rob Halfordia » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:38 am

Siliarba wrote:I meant the trying to explain why was silly, I mean, they never needed to explain any transformation in DBZ, it was just, accepted ^^.


But... they are all explained...
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Postby New Rnclave » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:40 am

New Rob Halfordia wrote:
New Rnclave wrote:
Hmm, now SSJG is gonna be less impressive once Hiroshi becomes one :p Unless he's equal to Beerus

But, do you have a reason for him being that powerful? And another question, can you handle that much powaaaah?


It's called plot :p Joking aside, he'll be a little below Goku's SSJG his first try, and will have to train his ass off to achieve anything. As for handling the powaaaah? He can just work off the excess on Claudia :p
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Postby Siliarba » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:41 am

New Rob Halfordia wrote:
Siliarba wrote:I meant the trying to explain why was silly, I mean, they never needed to explain any transformation in DBZ, it was just, accepted ^^.


But... they are all explained...

Sure, pure hearth and a need to be one for super siayain one, which got thrown out of the window by the time trunks and goten became one. Then there's the Super Saiyan 2, which was supposedly Gohan's hidden potential, and that idea got thrown away when Goku and Vegeta simply learned to do it and Gohan's hidden potential didn't even involve going super. Super Saiyan 3, well that never got explained, Goku just needed a new transformation.

And the 5 saiyans of good heart empowereing a 6th to turn that one God, well that sounds closer to magic than anything else if you ask me.

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Postby New Rnclave » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:42 am

Siliarba wrote:I meant the trying to explain why was silly, I mean, they never needed to explain any transformation in DBZ, it was just, accepted ^^.


I honestly feel like he makes it up as he goes along. He said they were separate forms, and then when Battle of Gods came out, he said Super Saiyan was the only form, and Ascended Saiyana dh Super Saiyan Three were just powered up variants, like Ascended Super Saiyan
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Postby New Rob Halfordia » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:45 am

Siliarba wrote:
New Rob Halfordia wrote:
But... they are all explained...

Sure, pure hearth and a need to be one for super siayain one, which got thrown out of the window by the time trunks and goten became one. Then there's the Super Saiyan 2, which was supposedly Gohan's hidden potential, and that idea got thrown away when Goku and Vegeta simply learned to do it and Gohan's hidden potential didn't even involve going super. Super Saiyan 3, well that never got explained, Goku just needed a new transformation.

And the 5 saiyans of good heart empowereing a 6th to turn that one God, well that sounds closer to magic than anything else if you ask me.

Almost none of that is true.

Super Saiyan 3 is the result of intense training, and amplifying your Ki to the maximum in an ASSJ esque manner. Hence the strain.

Super Saiyan 2 is simply a continuation of SSJ. And, it is suggested that Trunks and Goten could become Super Saiyans because their father's were Super Saiyans. You know, genetics.
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Postby Siliarba » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:48 am

New Rob Halfordia wrote:
Siliarba wrote:Sure, pure hearth and a need to be one for super siayain one, which got thrown out of the window by the time trunks and goten became one. Then there's the Super Saiyan 2, which was supposedly Gohan's hidden potential, and that idea got thrown away when Goku and Vegeta simply learned to do it and Gohan's hidden potential didn't even involve going super. Super Saiyan 3, well that never got explained, Goku just needed a new transformation.

And the 5 saiyans of good heart empowereing a 6th to turn that one God, well that sounds closer to magic than anything else if you ask me.

Almost none of that is true.

Super Saiyan 3 is the result of intense training, and amplifying your Ki to the maximum in an ASSJ esque manner. Hence the strain.

Super Saiyan 2 is simply a continuation of SSJ. And, it is suggested that Trunks and Goten could become Super Saiyans because their father's were Super Saiyans. You know, genetics.

Yup, to bad Trunks was conceived before Vegeta actually could go SS negating that thought. Also that's a fan theory so can't be taken serious either. Akira litteraly said, they could go SS because he wanted them to be relative to the plot.

Simply saying it's a continuation means there is no ss2, it's just a fancy lookins ss.

And saying getting stronger is the result of training (which you basically say is the reason for ss3) is a really poor explenation for a transformation.

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Postby New Rob Halfordia » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:49 am

Siliarba wrote:
New Rob Halfordia wrote:Almost none of that is true.

Super Saiyan 3 is the result of intense training, and amplifying your Ki to the maximum in an ASSJ esque manner. Hence the strain.

Super Saiyan 2 is simply a continuation of SSJ. And, it is suggested that Trunks and Goten could become Super Saiyans because their father's were Super Saiyans. You know, genetics.

Yup, to bad Trunks was conceived before Vegeta actually could go SS negating that thought. Also that's a fan theory so can't be taken serious either. Akira litteraly said, they could go SS because he wanted them to be relative to the plot.

Simply saying it's a continuation means there is no ss2, it's just a fancy lookins ss.

And saying getting stronger is the result of training (which you basically say is the reason for ss3) is a really poor explenation for a transformation.

Okay, so plot is the reason for that, you have me there.

No, it's a continuation of SSJ. It's what comes next in the tree of Super Saiyan transformations.

How so?
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