Infinite Justice: Beyond (Marvel,DC,DBZ X/Over, OOC 2, Open)

[The Republic of Atria]

I don't know what Doomsday's stats are, but I just feel in my head he is stronger than ss3 saiyan. I don't know enough of SSG to speak about that level. Also if I remember correctly, Superdoom is stronger by default even when holding back, because he sucks at holding back and he can't hold back durability.

This isn't SSJ3, I've already stated Perfect Saiyan is far stronger. Stronger than SSJG as well. Stronger than SSJGSS as well. But, as I said, it will be mostly a stomp on Superdoom's part, up until the end.

>Is stronger than God ki.

How? What's the explanation here?

[New Rob Halfordia]

This isn't SSJ3, I've already stated Perfect Saiyan is far stronger. Stronger than SSJG as well. Stronger than SSJGSS as well. But, as I said, it will be mostly a stomp on Superdoom's part, up until the end.

>Is stronger than God ki.

How? What's the explanation here?

It is Perfect Ki. Also, it is worth noting he is still not as strong as our Beerus, who has been buffed to Darkseid/Thanos level for reasons of relevance.

[The Republic of Atria]

>Is stronger than God ki.

How? What's the explanation here?

It is Perfect Ki. Also, it is worth noting he is still not as strong as our Beerus, who has been buffed to Darkseid/Thanos level for reasons of relevance.

You're still basically saying God Ki>Perfect Ki.

[New Rob Halfordia]

It is Perfect Ki. Also, it is worth noting he is still not as strong as our Beerus, who has been buffed to Darkseid/Thanos level for reasons of relevance.

You're still basically saying God Ki>Perfect Ki.

Really, it's entirely relative to how much of it you have. While, yes, God Ki > Perfect Ki, the average SSJG does not have enough to come out equal to PSJ.

[The Republic of Atria]

You're still basically saying God Ki>Perfect Ki.

Really, it's entirely relative to how much of it you have. While, yes, God Ki > Perfect Ki, the average SSJG does not have enough to come out equal to PSJ.

Alright.

[New Rob Halfordia]

Really, it's entirely relative to how much of it you have. While, yes, God Ki > Perfect Ki, the average SSJG does not have enough to come out equal to PSJ.

Alright.

[The Republic of Atria]

Alright.

[Mavorpen]

Really, it's entirely relative to how much of it you have. While, yes, God Ki > Perfect Ki, the average SSJG does not have enough to come out equal to PSJ.

Alright.

I don't see why you expect it to make a lot of sense considering even the creator of the series fails at that.

Besides, it's IJ. It doesn't really need to make sense.

[The Republic of Atria]

Alright.

I don't see why you expect it to make a lot of sense considering even the creator of the series fails at that.

Besides, it's IJ. It doesn't really need to make sense.

Fair point.

Oh no, I'm okay with bullshit. I just want an explanation for the bullshit. However stupid.

[Mavorpen]

I don't see why you expect it to make a lot of sense considering even the creator of the series fails at that.

Besides, it's IJ. It doesn't really need to make sense.

Fair point.

Oh no, I'm okay with bullshit. I just want an explanation for the bullshit. However stupid.

Also a fair point.

[New Rob Halfordia]

I don't see why you expect it to make a lot of sense considering even the creator of the series fails at that.

Besides, it's IJ. It doesn't really need to make sense.

Fair point.

Oh no, I'm okay with bullshit. I just want an explanation for the bullshit. However stupid.

My explanations are notoriously DBZ in their bullshittery.

[Siliarba]

It's beginning to sound like those fanfictions where they can go SS50 or something stupid.

[The Republic of Atria]

It's beginning to sound like those fanfictions where they can go SS50 or something stupid.

Ehh.

Alex's Bullshit=Magic

Killian's Bullshit=Speed Force

Naja's Bullshit= Molecular Manipulation she doesn't understand.

Besides. This is effectively just fanfiction. Everyone wanted to be a superhero/villain at one point.

[New Rob Halfordia]

It's beginning to sound like those fanfictions where they can go SS50 or something stupid.

No, that's retarded. This actually has some backstory planned by Neros and I. DBZ is my specialty Sili, do not underestimate my ability.

[New Rnclave]

Really, it's entirely relative to how much of it you have. While, yes, God Ki > Perfect Ki, the average SSJG does not have enough to come out equal to PSJ.

Alright.

Hmm, now SSJG is gonna be less impressive once Hiroshi becomes one Unless he's equal to Beerus

[Tomia]

I'll post for Samantha in a little while and have the Grimm enter the devil's den. I'll have the Flame Guard come in a little while after.

[New Rob Halfordia]

Alright.

Hmm, now SSJG is gonna be less impressive once Hiroshi becomes one Unless he's equal to Beerus

But, do you have a reason for him being that powerful? And another question, can you handle that much powaaaah?

[Siliarba]

I meant the trying to explain why was silly, I mean, they never needed to explain any transformation in DBZ, it was just, accepted ^^.

[New Rob Halfordia]

I meant the trying to explain why was silly, I mean, they never needed to explain any transformation in DBZ, it was just, accepted ^^.

But... they are all explained...

[New Rnclave]

Hmm, now SSJG is gonna be less impressive once Hiroshi becomes one Unless he's equal to Beerus

But, do you have a reason for him being that powerful? And another question, can you handle that much powaaaah?

It's called plot Joking aside, he'll be a little below Goku's SSJG his first try, and will have to train his ass off to achieve anything. As for handling the powaaaah? He can just work off the excess on Claudia

[Siliarba]

I meant the trying to explain why was silly, I mean, they never needed to explain any transformation in DBZ, it was just, accepted ^^.

But... they are all explained...

Sure, pure hearth and a need to be one for super siayain one, which got thrown out of the window by the time trunks and goten became one. Then there's the Super Saiyan 2, which was supposedly Gohan's hidden potential, and that idea got thrown away when Goku and Vegeta simply learned to do it and Gohan's hidden potential didn't even involve going super. Super Saiyan 3, well that never got explained, Goku just needed a new transformation.

And the 5 saiyans of good heart empowereing a 6th to turn that one God, well that sounds closer to magic than anything else if you ask me.

[New Rnclave]

I meant the trying to explain why was silly, I mean, they never needed to explain any transformation in DBZ, it was just, accepted ^^.

I honestly feel like he makes it up as he goes along. He said they were separate forms, and then when Battle of Gods came out, he said Super Saiyan was the only form, and Ascended Saiyana dh Super Saiyan Three were just powered up variants, like Ascended Super Saiyan

[New Rob Halfordia]

But... they are all explained...

Sure, pure hearth and a need to be one for super siayain one, which got thrown out of the window by the time trunks and goten became one. Then there's the Super Saiyan 2, which was supposedly Gohan's hidden potential, and that idea got thrown away when Goku and Vegeta simply learned to do it and Gohan's hidden potential didn't even involve going super. Super Saiyan 3, well that never got explained, Goku just needed a new transformation.

And the 5 saiyans of good heart empowereing a 6th to turn that one God, well that sounds closer to magic than anything else if you ask me.

Almost none of that is true.

Super Saiyan 3 is the result of intense training, and amplifying your Ki to the maximum in an ASSJ esque manner. Hence the strain.

Super Saiyan 2 is simply a continuation of SSJ. And, it is suggested that Trunks and Goten could become Super Saiyans because their father's were Super Saiyans. You know, genetics.

[Siliarba]

Sure, pure hearth and a need to be one for super siayain one, which got thrown out of the window by the time trunks and goten became one. Then there's the Super Saiyan 2, which was supposedly Gohan's hidden potential, and that idea got thrown away when Goku and Vegeta simply learned to do it and Gohan's hidden potential didn't even involve going super. Super Saiyan 3, well that never got explained, Goku just needed a new transformation.

And the 5 saiyans of good heart empowereing a 6th to turn that one God, well that sounds closer to magic than anything else if you ask me.

Almost none of that is true.

Super Saiyan 3 is the result of intense training, and amplifying your Ki to the maximum in an ASSJ esque manner. Hence the strain.

Super Saiyan 2 is simply a continuation of SSJ. And, it is suggested that Trunks and Goten could become Super Saiyans because their father's were Super Saiyans. You know, genetics.

Yup, to bad Trunks was conceived before Vegeta actually could go SS negating that thought. Also that's a fan theory so can't be taken serious either. Akira litteraly said, they could go SS because he wanted them to be relative to the plot.

Simply saying it's a continuation means there is no ss2, it's just a fancy lookins ss.

And saying getting stronger is the result of training (which you basically say is the reason for ss3) is a really poor explenation for a transformation.

[New Rob Halfordia]

Almost none of that is true.

Super Saiyan 3 is the result of intense training, and amplifying your Ki to the maximum in an ASSJ esque manner. Hence the strain.

Super Saiyan 2 is simply a continuation of SSJ. And, it is suggested that Trunks and Goten could become Super Saiyans because their father's were Super Saiyans. You know, genetics.

Yup, to bad Trunks was conceived before Vegeta actually could go SS negating that thought. Also that's a fan theory so can't be taken serious either. Akira litteraly said, they could go SS because he wanted them to be relative to the plot.

Simply saying it's a continuation means there is no ss2, it's just a fancy lookins ss.

And saying getting stronger is the result of training (which you basically say is the reason for ss3) is a really poor explenation for a transformation.

Okay, so plot is the reason for that, you have me there.

No, it's a continuation of SSJ. It's what comes next in the tree of Super Saiyan transformations.

How so?