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Postby Camicon » Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:18 pm

Faal Lot Himdah wrote:
Camicon wrote:Regular pokemon evolution is very much linked to the maturity of the individual. From an OOC standpoint, allowing us to start with pokemon that are fully evolved, or mature, leaves very little room for growth throughout the RP; the implication is that such pokemon are fully grown, fully self-actualized. There's also the issue of pokemon which have a two-stage regular evolutionary path tend to be more powerful than those that use stones, or have a single-stage evolutionary path.
From an IC standpoint, few pokemon are going to become fully mature within a handful of years, even under the tutelage of a trainer. Little bitty Charmander turning into a Charizard in five years is somewhat unrealistic.

Of course, I'm not a thread (co-)OP, so these are simply my own thoughts.


I disagree, under enough training (seeing as training increases both strength and discipline, which in turn leads to greater maturity) it is logical for a Pokemon to reach it's final evolutionary stage within five years.

You might be underestimating how much it takes for a pokemon to evolve. If you think of a three-stage regular evolutionary path to be analogous to human maturity and growth, the first stage runs from birth to (roughly) 15 years of age, the second from 15-35, and the third from 35 to death. Though it could hardly be considered an official source, look at any pokemon fan art where you see a person go through their whole life with one pokemon. It tends to follow the 0-15, 15-35, 35-X path.

Of course, New Jordslag has rendered the whole point moot. (now I can get back to working on my app) :p
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Faal Lot Himdah wrote:
I disagree, under enough training (seeing as training increases both strength and discipline, which in turn leads to greater maturity) it is logical for a Pokemon to reach it's final evolutionary stage within five years.

You might be underestimating how much it takes for a pokemon to evolve. If you think of a three-stage regular evolutionary path to be analogous to human maturity and growth, the first stage runs from birth to (roughly) 15 years of age, the second from 15-35, and the third from 35 to death. Though it could hardly be considered an official source, look at any pokemon fan art where you see a person go through their whole life with one pokemon. It tends to follow the 0-15, 15-35, 35-X path.

Of course, New Jordslag has rendered the whole point moot. (now I can get back to working on my app) :p

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Postby Faal Lot Himdah » Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:46 pm

New Jordslag wrote:
Faal Lot Himdah wrote:
I disagree, under enough training (seeing as training increases both strength and discipline, which in turn leads to greater maturity) it is logical for a Pokemon to reach it's final evolutionary stage within five years.

And this is why we have the Pokejammer.

Your Old Pokemon have been locked inside their Pokeballs and will likely starve to death. That's what the Pokejammer does. Now, the only Pokeball that works is the Rule Ball- a Ball crafted by the Rule Coalition when they invaded only a few months back- maybe even less time.

So no, you cannot have a fully evolved Pokemon, because any trainer that has been a trainer for five years will have probably wasted those Pokemon.


Ok, does anyone have anything against Rotom?
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Postby New Jordslag » Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:07 pm

Faal Lot Himdah wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:And this is why we have the Pokejammer.

Your Old Pokemon have been locked inside their Pokeballs and will likely starve to death. That's what the Pokejammer does. Now, the only Pokeball that works is the Rule Ball- a Ball crafted by the Rule Coalition when they invaded only a few months back- maybe even less time.

So no, you cannot have a fully evolved Pokemon, because any trainer that has been a trainer for five years will have probably wasted those Pokemon.


Ok, does anyone have anything against Rotom?

It's a legendary, so yes. Though considering that Rotom lives in Machines and that Hoenn is heavily industrialized, chances are somebody'll find him during the Roleplay.
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Postby Faal Lot Himdah » Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:13 pm

New Jordslag wrote:
Faal Lot Himdah wrote:
Ok, does anyone have anything against Rotom?

It's a legendary, so yes. Though considering that Rotom lives in Machines and that Hoenn is heavily industrialized, chances are somebody'll find him during the Roleplay.


Actually, Rotom is not a legendary.

A legendary is a pokemon that has myth behind it. Plus, there is only one of every legendary. There is no myths tied to Rotom, and there are a multitude of them. Also Rotom is breed-able (only one legendary is breed-able and that is not Rotom).

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Postby Faal Lot Himdah » Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:52 pm

If you need more evidence, HERE
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Postby Faal Lot Himdah » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:28 pm

So, in conclusion,

Rotom is a rare Pokémon, not legendary, RARE.
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Postby Camicon » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:30 pm

Chill. Neither Jordslag or Templar are logged on right now.
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Postby Faal Lot Himdah » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:39 pm

Camicon wrote:Chill. Neither Jordslag or Templar are logged on right now.


I know
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Postby Illan » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:57 pm

I'm trying to round out my team. I already have a Gabite....so, what should an Ex-Plasma member be packing that isn't a woobat, Purrloin, or Watchog?
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Postby The Templar High Council » Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:55 pm

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Postby Illan » Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:01 pm

The Templar High Council wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:
Ranger App
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Accepted, bro. I'll work on mine soon.


As will I!

What's your character gonna be, Temp?
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Postby The Templar High Council » Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:37 pm

Camicon wrote:Of course, I'm not a thread (co-)OP, so these are simply my own thoughts.

Well, you should be. :D
Would you like the position?

New Jordslag wrote:Your Old Pokemon have been locked inside their Pokeballs and will likely starve to death. That's what the Pokejammer does. Now, the only Pokeball that works is the Rule Ball- a Ball crafted by the Rule Coalition when they invaded only a few months back- maybe even less time.

I actually thought of a way around that. Switching the Pokemon's ball using a PC will allow you to use your older Pokemon, but only limited to the number of Rule Balls you have.

I do want your opinion, because this seems to go against what we originally had.

New Jordslag wrote:It's a legendary.

Actually, it isn't. I don't have any real proof, but I know it isn't.

Though Faal, I don't really like the sound of a Rotom, TBH. He's not legendary, but he is rare, like you said. I just don't really want someone starting with that.

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The Templar High Council wrote:Accepted, bro. I'll work on mine soon.


As will I!

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Postby New Jordslag » Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:42 pm

The Templar High Council wrote:
Camicon wrote:Of course, I'm not a thread (co-)OP, so these are simply my own thoughts.

Well, you should be. :D
Would you like the position?

New Jordslag wrote:Your Old Pokemon have been locked inside their Pokeballs and will likely starve to death. That's what the Pokejammer does. Now, the only Pokeball that works is the Rule Ball- a Ball crafted by the Rule Coalition when they invaded only a few months back- maybe even less time.

I actually thought of a way around that. Switching the Pokemon's ball using a PC will allow you to use your older Pokemon, but only limited to the number of Rule Balls you have.

I do want your opinion, because this seems to go against what we originally had.

New Jordslag wrote:It's a legendary.

Actually, it isn't. I don't have any real proof, but I know it isn't.

Though Faal, I don't really like the sound of a Rotom, TBH. He's not legendary, but he is rare, like you said. I just don't really want someone starting with that.

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As will I!

What's your character gonna be, Temp?

Jordy's Ranger partner. Male, has a Luxio, fun guy.

Ah, but Temp, the Coalition invaded just after they set up the Jammer. They own all the PC's where the Old Pokemon are. Not only that, but the PC system is highly hackable,as proven by Black/White. I just thonk it's for the best if we only allow trainers to have low level Pokemon at start, albeit stronger than the Team Members.

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The Templar High Council wrote:Accepted, bro. I'll work on mine soon.


As will I!

What's your character gonna be, Temp?

A Ranger, since Rangers kick ass.

Faal Lot Himdah wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:It's a legendary, so yes. Though considering that Rotom lives in Machines and that Hoenn is heavily industrialized, chances are somebody'll find him during the Roleplay.


Actually, Rotom is not a legendary.

A legendary is a pokemon that has myth behind it. Plus, there is only one of every legendary. There is no myths tied to Rotom, and there are a multitude of them. Also Rotom is breed-able (only one legendary is breed-able and that is not Rotom).

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It's actually hinted that there is only one of them. In Diamond and Pearl, there is only one, in the Old Chateau. In Black/White, you can only obtain it through trade with an NPC; presumably from someone who obtained it after the events of Diamond/Pearl. In X/Y, you can only find it by sifting through trashcans for some reason. It also is said to travel a lot. Put that all together, and what do you get? A Pokemon all alone in the world.

Now, the wiki does indeed not say it is a legendary. However, considering that Rotom can type trump anybody simply by using Household Appliances, and starts at a higher level than trainers should logically have to boot, I give it a no go. Temp, your thoughts?
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Postby The Templar High Council » Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:45 pm

New Jordslag wrote:Temp, your thoughts?

Not a legendary, but I don't want one so early on.
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Postby New Jordslag » Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:48 pm

The Templar High Council wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:Temp, your thoughts?

Not a legendary, but I don't want one so early on.

Agreed.

Not that he'd be likely to show up in Dewford. He'd be more likely to.be found in Rustboro, Lilycove, or Mossdeep.

However, the Resistance does have the home of Latias/Latios in their hands.
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Postby Mirakai » Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:52 pm

New Jordslag wrote:
The Templar High Council wrote:Not a legendary, but I don't want one so early on.

Agreed.

Not that he'd be likely to show up in Dewford. He'd be more likely to.be found in Rustboro, Lilycove, or Mossdeep.

However, the Resistance does have the home of Latias/Latios in their hands.

If we follow Pokemon movie logic, then both of them are completely sentient and able to take human form. I see them as possible high-ranking members of the resistance
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Postby Camicon » Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:55 pm

The Templar High Council wrote:
Camicon wrote:Of course, I'm not a thread (co-)OP, so these are simply my own thoughts.

Well, you should be. :D
Would you like the position?

Seems like I get these offers so often, and I always have to turn them down. :p
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Postby The Templar High Council » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:18 pm

Camicon wrote:
The Templar High Council wrote:Well, you should be. :D
Would you like the position?

Seems like I get these offers so often, and I always have to turn them down. :p

So are you turning this one down?
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Postby Camicon » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:20 pm

The Templar High Council wrote:
Camicon wrote:Seems like I get these offers so often, and I always have to turn them down. :p

So are you turning this one down?

Yes. I don't have the time to devote to being a proper co-OP, and I wouldn't want to half-ass it.
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Postby The Templar High Council » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:29 pm

Camicon wrote:
The Templar High Council wrote:So are you turning this one down?

Yes. I don't have the time to devote to being a proper co-OP, and I wouldn't want to half-ass it.

I kinda just need another person capable of accepting apps and making sure people don't godmod. I think you can handle that.
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Postby Camicon » Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:19 pm

What are the feelings regarding shiny Pokemon?
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Postby Illan » Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:21 pm

Camicon wrote:What are the feelings regarding shiny Pokemon?


Yeah, I need to have that totally awesome shiny Garchomp!

*grumbles in disappointment at how shitty the shiny of his favorite Pokemon is*
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Postby Illan » Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:30 pm

To be completed.

Trainer App

Name:
Age: 20
Appearance:
Looks rather ex-Plasma like, yes? Just make the eyes a bright blue color.
Image.
Sex: Male
Gender: Also Male :P
Birthplace: Unova Region, Undella Town.
Moral alignment: Neutral Good

Biography:

Pokemon:
  • Gabite "Draco"
  • Male
  • Moveset:
    • Dragon Claw
    • Dig
    • Dual Chop
    • Sandstorm
  • History/Personality: These are to be added :)

  • Pawniard "Knight"
  • Male
  • Moveset:
    • Metal Claw
    • Iron Defense
    • Swords Dance
    • Night Slash
  • History/Personality:

  • (Pokemon Species) "(Nickname)"
  • (Gender)
  • Moveset:
    • 1
    • 2
    • 3
    • 4
  • History/Personality: (where did you find him/her? how do they act towards you/other Pokemon?)

Optional Section:

Personality: To be added as well.
Likes: Steel and Dragon types, among other pokemon. Pokemon as a whole and their freedom. Other than that, he has an interest in reading of mostly historic subjects, as well as a bit of taste for the cuisine of the regions, especially Kalosian.
Dislikes: Unnecessary confinement of Pokemon, along with abuse and overall mistreatment of them.
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Postby The Templar High Council » Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:42 pm

Camicon wrote:What are the feelings regarding shiny Pokemon?

None in the beginning. I feel that they should be rewards for exceptional behavior or post quality.
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