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Postby Mesrane » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:32 pm

Kisinger wrote:
Mesrane wrote:Huh?

We talked about this remember?
I said that Scotland and Sweden formed an alliance so you could reclaim Skane and Norway? While I got The Faeroe Islands, and the Orkneys?

I recall discussing that an alliance was in the works, not that one currently existed.



Also . . Skane has been Swedish for well over a century even OTL, and Norway was acquired in the Great Northern War. The Orkneys have also been Scottish for centuries I believe.
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Postby Kisinger » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:39 pm

Mesrane wrote:
Kisinger wrote:We talked about this remember?
I said that Scotland and Sweden formed an alliance so you could reclaim Skane and Norway? While I got The Faeroe Islands, and the Orkneys?

I recall discussing that an alliance was in the works, not that one currently existed.



Also . . Skane has been Swedish for well over a century even OTL, and Norway was acquired in the Great Northern War. The Orkneys have also been Scottish for centuries I believe.

*Shetland Islands sorry but, refer to my App for what I mean....
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Postby Mesrane » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:50 pm

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Mesrane wrote:I recall discussing that an alliance was in the works, not that one currently existed.



Also . . Skane has been Swedish for well over a century even OTL, and Norway was acquired in the Great Northern War. The Orkneys have also been Scottish for centuries I believe.

*Shetland Islands sorry but, refer to my App for what I mean....

Ahh, hmm. That does conflict rather badly with my history, unfortunately. The Shetlands I know were annexed peacefully to Scotland in the 14th or 15th century. You would not have had to fight a war to gain them.
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:54 pm

Mer is right with the Shetlands - Scotland got them as a wedding present along with the Okrneys when the Scottish King married Margaret of Norway - who eventually became Queen of Scotland herself when all of her kids died and then her husband.

It is the Faroes that would have required conflict, which could have been taken during the Great Northern War.

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Postby Kisinger » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:56 pm

Mesrane wrote:
Kisinger wrote:*Shetland Islands sorry but, refer to my App for what I mean....

Ahh, hmm. That does conflict rather badly with my history, unfortunately. The Shetlands I know were annexed peacefully to Scotland in the 14th or 15th century. You would not have had to fight a war to gain them.

I can edit it slightly to where the war occurs during the Great Northern War I'm sure Glitter wouldn't mind, and thanks for the info about the Shetlands, it was just to add further justification.
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Postby Kisinger » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:58 pm

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Mer is right with the Shetlands - Scotland got them as a wedding present along with the Okrneys when the Scottish King married Margaret of Norway - who eventually became Queen of Scotland herself when all of her kids died and then her husband.

It is the Faroes that would have required conflict, which could have been taken during the Great Northern War.

Looks like I'll be doing some editing then...
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Postby Mesrane » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:00 pm

Kisinger wrote:
Mesrane wrote:Ahh, hmm. That does conflict rather badly with my history, unfortunately. The Shetlands I know were annexed peacefully to Scotland in the 14th or 15th century. You would not have had to fight a war to gain them.

I can edit it slightly to where the war occurs during the Great Northern War I'm sure Glitter wouldn't mind, and thanks for the info about the Shetlands, it was just to add further justification.

Works for me.
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Postby Kisinger » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:02 pm

Mesrane wrote:
Kisinger wrote:I can edit it slightly to where the war occurs during the Great Northern War I'm sure Glitter wouldn't mind, and thanks for the info about the Shetlands, it was just to add further justification.

Works for me.

Done and now we can all move on with our lives! :3
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Postby Conwy-Shire » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:10 pm

Would still like to know what i have to do before I'm accepted;

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Postby Kisinger » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:14 pm

Conwy-shire wrote:Would still like to know what i have to do before I'm accepted;

once more unto the breach dear friends, once more

Poor Piedmont.... I don't think he knows...
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Postby Conwy-Shire » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:26 pm

oh I know alright... it makes me sad... then insanely happy... then sad
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:40 pm

Fascist Republic Of Bermuda wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
No they were Turks still, they have just been defeated by Byzantium and the Mamlukes and as a result the Kurds have their own state.

Thanks for the clarification. Now I must complete my history and resist the urge to join the portrait-flag bandwagon.

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Kisinger wrote:Did nobody get the reference? :3


Just saw the video the other day. "A portrait of Europe as it once was. Plague victims crawl elegantly through the streets... ;U;"

What video?
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Postby Kisinger » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:42 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Fascist Republic Of Bermuda wrote:Thanks for the clarification. Now I must complete my history and resist the urge to join the portrait-flag bandwagon.

HOLD THE LINE! DO NOT BREAK! DO! NOT! BREAK!
The Industrial States of Columbia wrote:
Just saw the video the other day. "A portrait of Europe as it once was. Plague victims crawl elegantly through the streets... ;U;"

What video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-WO73Dh7rY
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:49 pm

Kisinger wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:HOLD THE LINE! DO NOT BREAK! DO! NOT! BREAK!

What video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-WO73Dh7rY

I saw the first frame and then I recalled having already watched that video. Yes, amusing it is.
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Svelt, you invite Bosnia into a joint Conference with Prussia, Austria, and Russia? No offense Vred, but I feel that is a bit... unbalanced.
/EDIT
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Postby The New Lowlands » Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:10 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Here is a Google Doc Map for the War of the First Coalition.

The players for France, Piedmont-Swiss, Austria, and Russia will be expected to place down their armies and shit on here. France is all blue and shit because they will be absorbing lands, so their annexations/occupations will be similarly marked.

Capitals of each nation are marked in order to create the layer for each player, and colors have also been distributed. This map is used mainly to ensure that players know what is going on. Sights of major battles may be marked just for reference.

>netherlands

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Postby Caltarania » Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:12 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Hello everyone.

Back from the party. Have seen the Latins and Swedes were accepted - will add to the roster.

What applications need review/acceptance that have not already gotten them?

Also, I have noticed the IC is looking good with people dating their posts c: Keeping fighting the good fight, people.


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Kisinger wrote:
The Industrial States of Columbia wrote:YESS

Did anybody get the reference? :3


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Postby The New Lowlands » Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:13 am

Caltarania wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Hello everyone.

Back from the party. Have seen the Latins and Swedes were accepted - will add to the roster.

What applications need review/acceptance that have not already gotten them?

Also, I have noticed the IC is looking good with people dating their posts c: Keeping fighting the good fight, people.


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This is John Henry Eden, signing off.

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Postby Caltarania » Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:19 am

The New Lowlands wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
This is Three Dog, from Galaxy News Radio.... Owwwwww!

This is John Henry Eden, signing off.


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Postby Sasutary Island » Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:40 am

Generic Info
Nation Name: United States of Mexico
Symbols: Flag
Homeland Population: 2.87 million
Imperial Population: None
Location/Claims: The Mexico on the Map
Capital City: Mexico City

Government Info
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy Federal Republic
Brief Explanation of Government: The Monarch is a figurehead. The Prime Minister is elected by the parliament and is able to enact and repeal laws on his whim, unless the Parliament vetoes it with more than 50% of the vote.
Ideology: Classical Liberalism, Secularism, free-market system, Interventionism
Leader/s: Head of State: King Xavier of Mexico
Head of Government: Prime Minister Salvador Valdez

Population Info
Religion: Predominantly Catholic; secular state
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Mexican, Spanish, Portuguese
Other Cultures: English, American, Dutch, Central American, Aztec

Military Info
Army:
  • Federal Army of Mexico
    *Active: 45,000 inf./ 2,000 cav./ 70 cannon
    *Reserve: 24,000 inf./ 180 cav./ 5 cannon
    *Well trained, equiped and led, the Federal Army is, in layman's terms, the Prime Minister's private army. They wear Black Shakos, brown boots and a Green Uniform.
  • District Citizen Militia
    *Total: 96,000 inf./ 3,700 cav./ 620 cannon
    *The DCM is the meat of the Mexican army. It is adequately trained, although weapons are to be bought using the soldier's own money. The DCM are conscripted for 3 years. Their 'uniform' consists of a slouch hat, white shirt and brown boots.
  • The Royal Army
    *Total: 3,770 inf./ 5,390 cav./ 25 cannon
    *The Royal Army, loyal to the Monarch, is a group of handpicked men. Crack, superbly-equiped and led by the best General in the Mexican military. The Royal Army, however, does not see combat unless absolutely neccesary, and are relegated to patrolling Mexico City and the Palace. They wear a plumed, black field cap and Green uniform with Green trimming.
Navy:
  • Federal Mexican Navy
    *4 Ships-of-the-Line (2 First-rates, 2 Third-rates)
    *6 Man-o-Wars
    *13 Sloop-o-Wars
    *5 Siege Ships (Man-o-Wars that mount large mortars and howitzers for use against Fortified coastal cities)
    *24 other assorted Naval vessels
  • The Federal Mexican navy is shite. A few Ships-of-the-Line captured during the Revolution and a few ships built after that is hardly a force to contest the sea might of Britain. Hell, the Columbian navy could possibly beat the Federal Navy. This is minutely compensated by the feracious men that serve aboard the ships, Aztecs, seeking respite from oppression on land, flock to join the navy and sail the seas, where they find like-minded people. The Federal Navy is adequate for use against Mexico's southern Neighbours, however.

Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: The Mexican economy is booming thanks to recent discoveries of Gold and precious minerals to the south. The free-market policies that have been employed are attracting numerous outsiders into Mexico. Down the social ladder, however, and things have not changed so much since after the Revolution. Poverty is rampant, and the sanitary conditions in the slums outside Mexico city, which itself is rapidly expanding due to employment in the new-fangled 'factories' funded by the King, are at best awful. The majority of exports are of Gold, Cocoa, Grain, Coal, Timbre and an assortment of Metals and Gems; the latter in small quantitiy.
Goals:
*Conquering of Central America; establish Puppet government or Annex
*Colonize the American West Coast up to the Modern Canadian border; Hawaii
*Conquer Cuba/Jamaica/Haiti
*Keep Industrializing
History: The United States of Mexico is a collection of 16 states. The 14 that fought for independence against Spain are collectively called the 'People's land', while the 2 new colonies are called Kalifornia and Xavierland (New Mexico). The struggle took 4 years, started when a known inteletual Salvador Valdez returned from France after the French Revolution and under the his guidance, engaged in a long and bloody battle for independence. The final bastion of Spanish defence, Mexico City, was besieged for 2 years, while other cities capitulated, promised that if they do join the revolution, they would be guaranteed a seat in the Parliament. By 1784, the Mexicans managed to repel the 'dirty little spaniards' from Mexican shores, and within a week of gaining independence, the 14 Provinces got together and agreed to the formation of the 'United States of Mexico', led by Prime Minister Valdez. The monarchs were the former Governors of Mexico City, and Valdez allowed them to slip onto the throne left by the Spanish Viceroy, knowing that they'd have less power on the throne than when they were governors.

With the smooth establishment of the United States, the government had to cement itself from the threat of a possible Spanish/French invasion. A rapid establishment of the Federal Army, haphazzardly trained and equiped in weeks. And yet it would seem, that it did not happen. The military was slowly built and trained back up, and thanks to the exports of Gold, infrastructure that effectively belonged to the 5th century were replaced. The upper end of society prospered, enjoying what the Europeans had enjoyed for years.

The poor, however, got the shorter, more dirtier end of the stick. The living conditions were appaling, and slaved upon the plantations of the rich for measly earnings. They had to set something right, and on the 1st of January of 1790, more than 230,000 labourers from the surrounding countryside gathered inside Mexico City and demanded their right to free land. It would've been a much easier choice for the Prime Minister to have called in military assistance, but a large portion of the Federal Army had been sent to Kalifornia and Xavierland to protect the colonists. The local militia refused to open fire on their fellow people and, after hours of deliberation and calls by the top bougoise to deny the workers, the Prime Minister accepted the people's demand for land to work on.

Thousand acre properties were neatly divided among people into small areas, where the farmers could plant anything they wanted to, which was mostly tobacco thanks to the European demand. That wasn't to say that the Capitalists lost everything. The Prime Minister redistributed unused state lands among them and, thanks to the arrival of the factory, were able to essentially print money.

Those factories and the rich were few and far between, however, and the huge majority of people were contented with tending to their flock and sowing seeds under the brutally hot sun. Last year, Valdez had ordered, with overwhelming support from the parliament, that conscription was to be enacted, where one male above the age of 17 from each family was to join the Military for 3 years, as a member of the District Citizen Militia. This was in lieu of plans for an invasion of Central America. With Spain tied up dealing with rebellions, and Napoleon poised to take Europe by storm, it seemed the perfect opportunity to add another state to the United States.
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Postby Vredlandia » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:18 am

The Jonathanian States wrote:Svelt, you invite Bosnia into a joint Conference with Prussia, Austria, and Russia? No offense Vred, but I feel that is a bit... unbalanced.
/EDIT


Although I don't mind that, it is (of course) a little unbalanced. :p And I don't even send my King, but only a duke. Nonetheless I could well imagine that Prussia, Austria and Russia discuss their points alone before inviting Bosnia in to sign the treates.

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Postby Liecthenbourg » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:21 am

Il be away from my computer for a bit, but some things I've noticed regarding apps.

@Byzantine app, I think you've got quite a lot of cannon. I count 1,150. I'd suggesting lowering it, maybe near the 400-500 area?

@Piedmont Swiss, that link you posted still has you having 10,000,000 people and Glitter mentioned something about how the bicarmel Republic is a bit too modern for a Government type.
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:37 am

Vredlandia wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:Svelt, you invite Bosnia into a joint Conference with Prussia, Austria, and Russia? No offense Vred, but I feel that is a bit... unbalanced.
/EDIT


Although I don't mind that, it is (of course) a little unbalanced. :p And I don't even send my King, but only a duke. Nonetheless I could well imagine that Prussia, Austria and Russia discuss their points alone before inviting Bosnia in to sign the treates.

That might be a bit more reasonable, but isn't what I understand from that letter, considering it is the same one for all of us.
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Postby Fascist Republic Of Bermuda » Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:16 am

Liecthenbourg wrote:Il be away from my computer for a bit, but some things I've noticed regarding apps.

@Byzantine app, I think you've got quite a lot of cannon. I count 1,150. I'd suggesting lowering it, maybe near the 400-500 area?

@Piedmont Swiss, that link you posted still has you having 10,000,000 people and Glitter mentioned something about how the bicarmel Republic is a bit too modern for a Government type.

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Postby Liecthenbourg » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:38 am

>when I'm allied to the Danish.
>Scottish want to be my friend.
>Scottish want to ally with the Swedes.
>Danes and Swedes hate eachother.

#Frenchproblems. :(
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Postby Kisinger » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:49 am

Liecthenbourg wrote:>when I'm allied to the Danish.
>Scottish want to be my friend.
>Scottish want to ally with the Swedes.
>Danes and Swedes hate eachother.

#Frenchproblems. :(

>Scots and Swedes hate the Danes

Think of who would be more valuable, the Scots and Swedes or the Danes :3
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