Beyond Humanity (OOC/Open)

[North Calaveras]

hmm i'm thinking about being anti-transhumanity, i was thinking a religous group possibly or eco-terrorists.

[Oscalantine]

The more of these "hivemind terrorists" that come out, the more I am glad that I am biological supremacists. No need to worry about hivemind infiltration when higher elites of my society (with exception of one group) doesn't use cybernetic enhancements to begin with. There is SO good in being the only biodirectionalist country in the world ^^

They don't have to willingly get these implants you know. One trip down the wrong alley and they get kidnapped... when they come back, they are so happy and cheery!

True in that sense, but again, the society is too largely based on non-implanted individuals that it would be extremely difficult to find those who you can control to kidnap. With an added plus... it is extremely easy to spot implant individuals simply because implants are so discriminated against.

But anything can happen, so good luck and look forward to it. If anything, more incidents like this occurs, the less and less hold that Danwol has in this country. You are actually doing yourself worse off by destroying the only implant-foothold in the area. So keep kidnapping and we'll see how it turns out in politics ^^

[Oscalantine]

hmm i'm thinking about being anti-transhumanity, i was thinking a religous group possibly or eco-terrorists.

We don't have eco-terrorists, if that's what you were asking XDDD

That would be epic edition to the world filled with hivemind terrorists and everyone has implants. ^^

[Republic of the Cristo]

They don't have to willingly get these implants you know. One trip down the wrong alley and they get kidnapped... when they come back, they are so happy and cheery!

True in that sense, but again, the society is too largely based on non-implanted individuals that it would be extremely difficult to find those who you can control to kidnap. With an added plus... it is extremely easy to spot implant individuals simply because implants are so discriminated against.

But anything can happen, so good luck and look forward to it. If anything, more incidents like this occurs, the less and less hold that Danwol has in this country. You are actually doing yourself worse off by destroying the only implant-foothold in the area. So keep kidnapping and we'll see how it turns out in politics ^^

We have a team of 50 indivuals set up for the kidnappings and implants. As for soldiers, we wait when they are not expecting it ( Like from a pretty girl they bought ) and then nab them.

[Republic of the Cristo]

They don't have to willingly get these implants you know. One trip down the wrong alley and they get kidnapped... when they come back, they are so happy and cheery!

True in that sense, but again, the society is too largely based on non-implanted individuals that it would be extremely difficult to find those who you can control to kidnap. With an added plus... it is extremely easy to spot implant individuals simply because implants are so discriminated against.

But anything can happen, so good luck and look forward to it. If anything, more incidents like this occurs, the less and less hold that Danwol has in this country. You are actually doing yourself worse off by destroying the only implant-foothold in the area. So keep kidnapping and we'll see how it turns out in politics ^^

We would only take them for the night, then send them back home in the morning. They would then operate as if nothing happened, but would be serving the HIVE

[Oscalantine]

We have a team of 50 indivuals set up for the kidnappings and implants. As for soldiers, we wait when they are not expecting it ( Like from a pretty girl they bought ) and then nab them.

XDDD sure. And as I said, the more kidnapping would indicate that Danwol will be pushed back and back until complete implant discrimination in the society. Eventually, every individuals with implants will be screened in the country and your foothold will be complete gone. So... please, keep kidnapping and the politics of my country will go EXACTLY as how I envisioned to be XDDD

We would only take them for the night, then send them back home in the morning. They would then operate as if nothing happened, but would be serving the HIVE

Errr... remember: Korea right now is extremely implant-phobic country... or rather, looks down on implant individuals. So much as a single scrap of metal is detected inside a human, it will be roused with suspicion. You cannot go a day without someone checking on your bio-legality, and it will immediately lead to investigation. If you thought that you will be able to convert Koreans secretly when most of them don't have an implant to begin with... that is a tall order, dude XDDD

[North Calaveras]

hmm i'm thinking about being anti-transhumanity, i was thinking a religous group possibly or eco-terrorists.

We don't have eco-terrorists, if that's what you were asking XDDD

That would be epic edition to the world filled with hivemind terrorists and everyone has implants. ^^

Im thinking an islamic group or a satanic cult, but for flavor im more towards the satanic cult.

[Skappola]

hmm i'm thinking about being anti-transhumanity, i was thinking a religous group possibly or eco-terrorists.

We don't have eco-terrorists, if that's what you were asking XDDD

That would be epic edition to the world filled with hivemind terrorists and everyone has implants. ^^

Technically, the New Gaians could easily cross over into eco-terrorism, though they're transhumanist. He could certainly create anti-transhuman eco-terrorists, of course, because I enjoy watching this world teeter at the edge of apocalypse. They'd probably fall under destructionists.

[Republic of the Cristo]

We have a team of 50 indivuals set up for the kidnappings and implants. As for soldiers, we wait when they are not expecting it ( Like from a pretty girl they bought ) and then nab them.

XDDD sure. And as I said, the more kidnapping would indicate that Danwol will be pushed back and back until complete implant discrimination in the society. Eventually, every individuals with implants will be screened in the country and your foothold will be complete gone. So... please, keep kidnapping and the politics of my country will go EXACTLY as how I envisioned to be XDDD

That would assume that the leaders of your society are pushing this initiative. However, many big names in your society would be actively pushing against it, because they are apart of the HIVE. Really, its our shared country

Also, the kidnappings and implants would be done in one night. We could just give the excuse of got drunk or, had to work late. Nothing suspicous

[Skappola]

We don't have eco-terrorists, if that's what you were asking XDDD

That would be epic edition to the world filled with hivemind terrorists and everyone has implants. ^^

Im thinking an islamic group or a satanic cult, but for flavor im more towards the satanic cult.

We currently have ultra-religious Christian terrorists in Europe - you could function as a rival group. That would be quite interesting.

[Oscalantine]

Im thinking an islamic group or a satanic cult, but for flavor im more towards the satanic cult.

So you would be based on Middle East or Western Europe. It is saddening that less people wish to be around Asia... but between Revivalists and China looming in the horizon, I guess Korea already has its hands full XDDD

Technically, the New Gaians could easily cross over into eco-terrorism, though they're transhumanist. He could certainly create anti-transhuman eco-terrorists, of course, because I enjoy watching this world go to shit. They'd probably fall under destructionists.

I meant no eco-terrorists as in there is no accepted apps on that. But yes, if anyone wishes to be New Gaians that would be epic. There is SUCH little population with biodirectionalists that I am really feeling the loneliness steep withing me T^T

[Republic of the Cristo]

We have a team of 50 indivuals set up for the kidnappings and implants. As for soldiers, we wait when they are not expecting it ( Like from a pretty girl they bought ) and then nab them.

XDDD sure. And as I said, the more kidnapping would indicate that Danwol will be pushed back and back until complete implant discrimination in the society. Eventually, every individuals with implants will be screened in the country and your foothold will be complete gone. So... please, keep kidnapping and the politics of my country will go EXACTLY as how I envisioned to be XDDD

We would only take them for the night, then send them back home in the morning. They would then operate as if nothing happened, but would be serving the HIVE

Errr... remember: Korea right now is extremely implant-phobic country... or rather, looks down on implant individuals. So much as a single scrap of metal is detected inside a human, it will be roused with suspicion. You cannot go a day without someone checking on your bio-legality, and it will immediately lead to investigation. If you thought that you will be able to convert Koreans secretly when most of them don't have an implant to begin with... that is a tall order, dude XDDD

Who is going to screen a family member in Korea if he gives them a bad stare? They are big in your country are they not? Also, metal is common in a lot of people. Even today people have metal rods in their bones or muscles or skulls, this really wouldn't be out of the ordinary.

[Skappola]

Im thinking an islamic group or a satanic cult, but for flavor im more towards the satanic cult.

So you would be based on Middle East or Western Europe. It is saddening that less people wish to be around Asia... but between Revivalists and China looming in the horizon, I guess Korea already has its hands full XDDD

I meant no eco-terrorists as in there is no accepted apps on that. But yes, if anyone wishes to be New Gaians that would be epic. There is SUCH little population with biodirectionalists that I am really feeling the loneliness steep withing me T^T

Well, we already have you (Korea), China, the Revivalists, a Connectionist India, the Hive, and I'll be working there, too. I think we have enough people in Asia to make the situation very interesting.

I'm actually surprised we have a bunch of connectionists and only 3 biodirectionists - it was the opposite last time. Multiple biodirectionists and only one connectionist.

[North Calaveras]

which one would be more interseting though, the satanic or islamic cult?

[Republic of the Cristo]

Also, I doubt your people would have daily brain scans.

[Oscalantine]

That would assume that the leaders of your society are pushing this initiative. However, many big names in your society would be actively pushing against it, because they are apart of the HIVE. Really, its our shared country

Also, the kidnappings and implants would be done in one night. We could just give the excuse of got drunk or, had to work late. Nothing suspicous

As much as.... this would be interesting to RP with. I think you are missing the point.

1) Korea is currently ruled by Biodirectionalist Promethean. They are bio-supremacists, meaning that they would rather use gene therapy and biological engineering to enhance their living. This means that no "elites" and "leaders" apart from Danwol Group would actually be using implants. No one has implants, no hivemind.

2) When I mentioned biological screening, basically and literally we check the biological validity of our "pure" selves. Anyone with implants are viewed with suspicion, and thus there is a screening centers around the major population areas (clubs, firms, banks, etc) to check if you are certified implant-users. If you are not certified implant user, but has implants... you are immediately locked in and investigated. By off chance you are forging certificates, sure. But again, it will be caught eventually.

3) Yes kidnapping can happen overnight... and I was stupid to say anything about soldiers, since kidnapping accounts for those things. I think that is perfectly plausible. But... dude, you have to stop assuming that my country accepts implants. We don't, and we segregate those who do. Until Danwol comes to major power, that will always be the case.

4) And here's my last point: if kidnapping by implant-individuals to force-implant others goes into media, Danwol is done for. If Danwol gets bad press, Korea would discriminate against implants like Southern Whites during segregation era. That would be WORSE for your agenda, not furthering your ideals.

... just want to get RP interesting, and I kinda sorta want your hivemind to be a threat to my country... but seriously, you have to be a bit smarter than "slowly taking over your country using force-implants" to get countries. It is a bit harder than that.

[Kingdom High]

So you would be based on Middle East or Western Europe. It is saddening that less people wish to be around Asia... but between Revivalists and China looming in the horizon, I guess Korea already has its hands full XDDD



I meant no eco-terrorists as in there is no accepted apps on that. But yes, if anyone wishes to be New Gaians that would be epic. There is SUCH little population with biodirectionalists that I am really feeling the loneliness steep withing me T^T

Well, we already have you (Korea), China, the Revivalists, a Connectionist India, the Hive, and I'll be working there, too. I think we have enough people in Asia to make the situation very interesting.

I'm actually surprised we have a bunch of connectionists and only 3 biodirectionists - it was the opposite last time. Multiple biodirectionists and only one connectionist.

All three sort of main groups are very interesting with their own advantages, I guess the appeal is biodirectionism is that we still maintain our individual human forms for the most part, which is what we're all comfortable with.

[Republic of the Cristo]

That would assume that the leaders of your society are pushing this initiative. However, many big names in your society would be actively pushing against it, because they are apart of the HIVE. Really, its our shared country

Also, the kidnappings and implants would be done in one night. We could just give the excuse of got drunk or, had to work late. Nothing suspicous

As much as.... this would be interesting to RP with. I think you are missing the point.

1) Korea is currently ruled by Biodirectionalist Promethean. They are bio-supremacists, meaning that they would rather use gene therapy and biological engineering to enhance their living. This means that no "elites" and "leaders" apart from Danwol Group would actually be using implants. No one has implants, no hivemind.

2) When I mentioned biological screening, basically and literally we check the biological validity of our "pure" selves. Anyone with implants are viewed with suspicion, and thus there is a screening centers around the major population areas (clubs, firms, banks, etc) to check if you are certified implant-users. If you are not certified implant user, but has implants... you are immediately locked in and investigated. By off chance you are forging certificates, sure. But again, it will be caught eventually.

3) Yes kidnapping can happen overnight... and I was stupid to say anything about soldiers, since kidnapping accounts for those things. I think that is perfectly plausible. But... dude, you have to stop assuming that my country accepts implants. We don't, and we segregate those who do. Until Danwol comes to major power, that will always be the case.

4) And here's my last point: if kidnapping by implant-individuals to force-implant others goes into media, Danwol is done for. If Danwol gets bad press, Korea would discriminate against implants like Southern Whites during segregation era. That would be WORSE for your agenda, not furthering your ideals.

... just want to get RP interesting, and I kinda sorta want your hivemind to be a threat to my country... but seriously, you have to be a bit smarter than "slowly taking over your country using force-implants" to get countries. It is a bit harder than that.

You don't seem to understand the word " Kidnap" It does not matter if the wealthy elite doesn't get these implants, they will be forced. They are in the inner brain, so they cannot be seen externally. Secondly, the only way for you to check on the inside of someone's body like that is through x-rays. If you did so, there would be a humongous amount of cancer in your country from daily and constant dosages. I don't think that the Koreans would be that ignorant. Also, I will just not get caught by the media!

[North Calaveras]

Terrorist Group Name: The Beast
Center of Operations Location: Rome, Italy
Primary Source(s) of Income: Ransom, Assasination, Bribery, Black Market, Corrupt Business/inflitrated religous groups
Threat Level: National
Short-Term & Long-Term Goals: Establish powerful foothold while disrupting trans humanists and enemy religious groups/ Long-Term: Lead the world into Armageddon and then building a new world order using it's ashes
History and General Description: With the rise of Trans humanism is all of it's forms and the increasing hostility of the world religious the satanic cult of "the beast" was formed from outcasts in the beginning but quickly grew with those who wished to wash the world clean and establish a new world order. They claim that Armageddon is near and they have sided with the beast, often branding or tatooing the mark 666 on their bodies to show what side they are on. They are semi-anarchists and militant.
Faction: Religous
Subgroup (Optional): Destructionists
2 Examples of your previous RP experience: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=261057

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=258307

[Oscalantine]

You don't seem to understand the word " Kidnap" It does not matter if the wealthy elite doesn't get these implants, they will be forced. They are in the inner brain, so they cannot be seen externally. Secondly, the only way for you to check on the inside of someone's body like that is through x-rays. If you did so, there would be a humongous amount of cancer in your country from daily and constant dosages. I don't think that the Koreans would be that ignorant. Also, I will just not get caught by the media!

Huh? Implants would be rather easy to detect. But... let's assume that I use x-ray, which... again, in x-ray dosage would be impossible to cause radiation poisoning even in daily dosage. Remember that many of my people are enhanced genetically and biologically. Such trivial things as radiation poisoning would only apply to those who cybernetically enhanced themselves (and they would be licenses to get around that or risk detection)

Elites would be what? You seem to underestimate my country's security. Even they themselves would be extremely enhanced biologically that you would need to bring quite a firepower to hold them. Sedation? Do you think biological enhancement would be for naught? You, sir, are completely looking down on country's ability to protect their leaders. And THAT I will not stand for.

I didn't say "Hivemind was caught kidnapping individuals!" Of course your secretive organization would never be caught red-handed like that. However, news will reach the headlines if people get implants overnight, and they are found to be either under the influence or control of hiveminds. Implant-scare would be a real thing, and Danwol group will immediately lose power. With Danwol, the only pro-implant folks gone, it would be segregation era in Korea, where implanted users will be viewed with complete suspicion and be pooled into concentration camps, where they would be regularly screened for connection to hivemind.

... yee. I understand that your organization is sneeky and powerful, but you really need to use a bit more strategy than what you are suggesting ^^;;;

[Kingdom High]

My post is finally up. Hope we get some United States apps so my corporation has someone to interact with.

[Skappola]

Terrorist Group Name: The Beast
Center of Operations Location: Rome, Italy
Primary Source(s) of Income: Ransom, Assasination, Bribery, Black Market, Corrupt Business/inflitrated religous groups
Threat Level: National
Short-Term & Long-Term Goals: Establish powerful foothold while disrupting trans humanists and enemy religious groups/ Long-Term: Lead the world into Armageddon and then building a new world order using it's ashes
History and General Description: With the rise of Trans humanism is all of it's forms and the increasing hostility of the world religious the satanic cult of "the beast" was formed from outcasts in the beginning but quickly grew with those who wished to wash the world clean and establish a new world order. They claim that Armageddon is near and they have sided with the beast, often branding or tatooing the mark 666 on their bodies to show what side they are on. They are semi-anarchists and militant.
Faction: Religous
Subgroup (Optional): Destructionists
2 Examples of your previous RP experience: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... 1&t=261057

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... 1&t=258307

Accepted, but now I feel bad for what Europe is going through. I mean - my god. 3 terrorist groups, 2 in germany alone.

[Republic of the Cristo]

You don't seem to understand the word " Kidnap" It does not matter if the wealthy elite doesn't get these implants, they will be forced. They are in the inner brain, so they cannot be seen externally. Secondly, the only way for you to check on the inside of someone's body like that is through x-rays. If you did so, there would be a humongous amount of cancer in your country from daily and constant dosages. I don't think that the Koreans would be that ignorant. Also, I will just not get caught by the media!

Huh? Implants would be rather easy to detect. But... let's assume that I use x-ray, which... again, in x-ray dosage would be impossible to cause radiation poisoning even in daily dosage. Remember that many of my people are enhanced genetically and biologically. Such trivial things as radiation poisoning would only apply to those who cybernetically enhanced themselves (and they would be licenses to get around that or risk detection)

Elites would be what? You seem to underestimate my country's security. Even they themselves would be extremely enhanced biologically that you would need to bring quite a firepower to hold them. Sedation? Do you think biological enhancement would be for naught? You, sir, are completely looking down on country's ability to protect their leaders. And THAT I will not stand for.

I didn't say "Hivemind was caught kidnapping individuals!" Of course your secretive organization would never be caught red-handed like that. However, news will reach the headlines if people get implants overnight, and they are found to be either under the influence or control of hiveminds. Implant-scare would be a real thing, and Danwol group will immediately lose power. With Danwol, the only pro-implant folks gone, it would be segregation era in Korea, where implanted users will be viewed with complete suspicion and be pooled into concentration camps, where they would be regularly screened for connection to hivemind.

... yee. I understand that your organization is sneeky and powerful, but you really need to use a bit more strategy than what you are suggesting ^^;;;

I am not exacetly relying no Danwol for my implants. OP said they were rather easy to make. Secondly, are you seriously telling me that the rulers of your country ( Corporate suits and politicians mind you) don't like to go out to the club, hang out with questionable people with even more questionable products, and purchase women for exclusive activities ( Corporate suits and politicians again EMPHASIS!) Also, if we were to make HIVE mind members of Koreans, we would also be in control of their abilities and would be able to match other Koreans. And, yes, you most definitely can get radiation injuries from x-rays. There is a reason why you wear lead aprons around your body when they take x-rays. Getting a daily dosage would certainly cause injury in a human. A promethean would even be pushing the limits with constant radiation inspections. Also, I could just hide the implant on the inner wall of the brain divide so it just likes like a bit of the wall.... Problem solved.

[Oscalantine]

I am not exacetly relying no Danwol for my implants. OP said they were rather easy to make. Secondly, are you seriously telling me that the rulers of your country ( Corporate suits and politicians mind you) don't like to go out to the club, hang out with questionable people with even more questionable products, and purchase women for exclusive activities ( Corporate suits and politicians again EMPHASIS!) Also, if we were to make HIVE mind members of Koreans, we would also be in control of their abilities and would be able to match other Koreans. And, yes, you most definitely can get radiation injuries from x-rays. There is a reason why you wear lead aprons around your body when they take x-rays. Getting a daily dosage would certainly cause injury in a human. A promethean would even be pushing the limits with constant radiation inspections. Also, I could just hide the implant on the inner wall of the brain divide so it just likes like a bit of the wall.... Problem solved.

아 쫌!
Let me get this one part perfectly clear, and then I am just going to let RP play out. Your loss if you cannot figure out complexities of my country.

One thing: Danwol is the only group that is preventing Korea from going full implant-hate. There is equality in the region only because of them. If they are out of power, it doesn't stop Inovatium from going full bio-only on Koreans, and putting more restrictions for foreigners with implants.

Yes for all those things. Politicians as still humans. But one problem with your infiltration is that they would be hanging out ONLY in the areas where everyone is bio with not a single shred of implants. The point that you keep failing to understand is that we consider implant-individuals as plague... like what Islam would be to Christians nowadays. We tolerate them, but we think that they are lower-class beings that do not know the full-truth.

Err... actually, it is really easy. Radiation poisoning's greatest issue is its problem with screwing over genes. That can be easily solved through gene therapy in the realm of hypothetical science... a science that would exist if human-computer hardware is possible.

Good luck, dude. I gave you all the info that you need for you to infiltrate my nation... and some things that I was hoping that you will get around. Regardless, have fun, and I hope you succeed ^^

[Lenyo]

Country Name: Communist Union

Location: Boundaries of the Former Soviet Union

Population: 460,503,326

Government Description: The Communist Union considers itself to be the world's first democracy, as all spheres of life are administered by popular consensus. Connectionist technology has eliminated the need for hierarchy, now that all decisions are made by popular vote. Civics is taught from a very young age, so every citizen knows how to draft legislation and participate in the democratic process. Any proposed bill is up for vote if 2% of the population cosigns it. Votes are continuously held at the workplace, provincial, and national level. Private property is nonexistent, and the collective decides all.

Economy Description: The Communist Union is a highly diversified, heavily industrialized country which leads the world in medical innovation and nuclear fusion energy. Other industries it excels in include heavy manufacturing, agriculture, aerospace, chemicals, mining, publishing, and public transport. Foreigners have criticized the Communist Union's lack of light manufacturing, indifference towards tourism, and refusal to pollute. Unlike in capitalsit countries, unemployment has been abolished. Labor is both a right and a duty.

Military Description: The Communist Union is a militaristic nation that prioritizes martial training for the entirety of society. All citizens - with the obvious exception of the ill - are required to undergo weekly military exercises of all kinds. The nation is convinced that it is surrounded by hostile capitalist powers, so it refuses to let its guard down. 4% of the population are professional soldiers. The Communist Union prioritizes defensive fortifications in its war budgeting. The nation also provides training and assistance to communist groups throughout the world, which is generally condemned by the governments that have to deal with said rebels.

History and General Description: During the 21st century the nations of the former Soviet Union increasingly integrated via the Eurasian Economic Union. This led to a partially shared cultural and political history. The relentless advance of robotics during the 2000's sharply increased aggregate productivity - while at the same time slashing employment worldwide. By mid-century the unemployed were a major political faction in nearly all countries. Permanent unemployment fueled a socialist revival in Eurasia, which advocated for both the working class and the unemployed. This culminated in the failed Revolution of 2059, which was harshly suppressed by the Russian Federation and its client states. Learning from its organizing mistakes, the movement further radicalized and successfully seized power in Moscow in 2068. After seven years of civil war, the Revolution had cemented its rule across the former Soviet Union. Waves of sweeping reforms were passed throughout the late 21st century that abolished private property, nationalized all wealth, radically increased social services, guaranteed personal and political freedoms, combated bigotries, and sought to connect all the cultures of the world.

Faction: The nation is adamantly connectionist. The Communist Union is opposed to uploaders and biodirectionists, which are considered decadent and are strongly condemned by the population at large. People are divided on the cyberneticists. However, the technology is too expensive to be utilized for anything beyond a small minority of the population.

2 Examples of your previous RP experience: Dawn of Nations and Mirare