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The Eastern Antarctic State
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Founded: Jun 06, 2014
Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Eastern Antarctic State » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:45 pm

Petrokovia wrote:
Esceen wrote:Well rhodesia isn't exactly flying the hammer and sickle or a good RPer

Still, the point is that the Soviets were against ethnic cleansing.

Um, post war germany
This ensues
The Republic of Eastern Antarctica is a country located on the Eastern portion of the Antarctic Continent, Has leftist policies, but is still capitalist.

NOTE: I am an Australian.
I enjoy playing/watching Cricket and Rugby League every now and then. Love me some history and paradox games. Studying at University. Catholic. You can call me TEAS or EAS

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Petrokovia
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Posts: 7678
Founded: Jul 07, 2014
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Petrokovia » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:45 pm

Esceen wrote:
World Anarchic Union wrote:Why meta gamed? After all, there was some time between you doing it and the world taking notice of it, in RP time, at least a month so of course, the world could get notified. I can erase my letter to you, I have no problem with that, but it will be revealed , some time, and I will just write it again.
I had actually, however, thought of establishing a Civil Rights Convention before this happened and was going to talk about it with the Americans.

Not exactly. This "war" with "Rhodesia" won't be taking months at a time. If we can just void the fact that you knew about it within the 5 years of it happening than that would be dandy. And after 5 years (which is a good amount of time for my government to stop trying to cover it up) you can discover it if you want if you remember to

Also keep in mind that this is not an attempt to avoid war, New Zealand and his buddies can come at me whenever they want, and for the US it would be economical and political suicide to cut trade with europe then try to wage war with us

M80, they have plenty of resources. They could go full independent if they wanted to. So could I. And if they did go against you, I'd just increase my trade with them to fill the gap.
Communist from Philly living with multiplicity; We literally are Petrokovia. We are very spiritual adherents to our religion.
Pro: AES, Juche, communism, armed revolution, God (Mikotorma), reappropriating monarchical terms for socialist things (what's in a name?), the ethereal spaceship polycule sent by Allah to guide us, freedom of expression and religion
Anti: Fascism, absolute monarchy, capitalism, imperialism, Demiurge/Saklas, bigotry of any kind
Note: I do not use NS Stats, NS Tracker, etc. I only use my own factbooks and written information; The main canon used is the Democratic Socialist Vesperist Realms of Petrokovia (DSVRP)
من خلال الشدائد وسفك الدماء إلى المجد نسير بنور قلوبنا على طريق ميكوتورماه
National Anthem: Our Country!
National Religion: Vesperism

*Communist and Proud!*

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Petrokovia
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Founded: Jul 07, 2014
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Petrokovia » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:48 pm

The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:
Petrokovia wrote:Still, the point is that the Soviets were against ethnic cleansing.

Um, post war germany

I don't think Stalin-era USSR is a good example of the Soviets. That period was fucked to kingdom come.
Communist from Philly living with multiplicity; We literally are Petrokovia. We are very spiritual adherents to our religion.
Pro: AES, Juche, communism, armed revolution, God (Mikotorma), reappropriating monarchical terms for socialist things (what's in a name?), the ethereal spaceship polycule sent by Allah to guide us, freedom of expression and religion
Anti: Fascism, absolute monarchy, capitalism, imperialism, Demiurge/Saklas, bigotry of any kind
Note: I do not use NS Stats, NS Tracker, etc. I only use my own factbooks and written information; The main canon used is the Democratic Socialist Vesperist Realms of Petrokovia (DSVRP)
من خلال الشدائد وسفك الدماء إلى المجد نسير بنور قلوبنا على طريق ميكوتورماه
National Anthem: Our Country!
National Religion: Vesperism

*Communist and Proud!*

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Union of Kiwi Socialists
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Founded: May 18, 2014
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Postby Union of Kiwi Socialists » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:50 pm

Petrokovia wrote:
Esceen wrote:Not exactly. This "war" with "Rhodesia" won't be taking months at a time. If we can just void the fact that you knew about it within the 5 years of it happening than that would be dandy. And after 5 years (which is a good amount of time for my government to stop trying to cover it up) you can discover it if you want if you remember to

Also keep in mind that this is not an attempt to avoid war, New Zealand and his buddies can come at me whenever they want, and for the US it would be economical and political suicide to cut trade with europe then try to wage war with us

M80, they have plenty of resources. They could go full independent if they wanted to. So could I. And if they did go against you, I'd just increase my trade with them to fill the gap.

Communist turning capitalist? Is imperialism next?

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Esceen
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Postby Esceen » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:51 pm

Petrokovia wrote:
Esceen wrote:Not exactly. This "war" with "Rhodesia" won't be taking months at a time. If we can just void the fact that you knew about it within the 5 years of it happening than that would be dandy. And after 5 years (which is a good amount of time for my government to stop trying to cover it up) you can discover it if you want if you remember to

Also keep in mind that this is not an attempt to avoid war, New Zealand and his buddies can come at me whenever they want, and for the US it would be economical and political suicide to cut trade with europe then try to wage war with us

M80, they have plenty of resources. They could go full independent if they wanted to. So could I. And if they did go against you, I'd just increase my trade with them to fill the gap.

But you realize that it's an absolute terrible idea? this is different because there are less nations in europe (therefore more concentrated power in specific nations) and that declaring war on one of them is declaring war on Europe? (ignoring Greater netherlands and Portugal because they are irrelevant now)

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Petrokovia
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Founded: Jul 07, 2014
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Petrokovia » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:51 pm

Union of Kiwi Socialists wrote:
Petrokovia wrote:M80, they have plenty of resources. They could go full independent if they wanted to. So could I. And if they did go against you, I'd just increase my trade with them to fill the gap.

Communist turning capitalist? Is imperialism next?

I already trade with them. Trading with an ally isn't capitalism.
Communist from Philly living with multiplicity; We literally are Petrokovia. We are very spiritual adherents to our religion.
Pro: AES, Juche, communism, armed revolution, God (Mikotorma), reappropriating monarchical terms for socialist things (what's in a name?), the ethereal spaceship polycule sent by Allah to guide us, freedom of expression and religion
Anti: Fascism, absolute monarchy, capitalism, imperialism, Demiurge/Saklas, bigotry of any kind
Note: I do not use NS Stats, NS Tracker, etc. I only use my own factbooks and written information; The main canon used is the Democratic Socialist Vesperist Realms of Petrokovia (DSVRP)
من خلال الشدائد وسفك الدماء إلى المجد نسير بنور قلوبنا على طريق ميكوتورماه
National Anthem: Our Country!
National Religion: Vesperism

*Communist and Proud!*

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Union of Kiwi Socialists
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Founded: May 18, 2014
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Postby Union of Kiwi Socialists » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:54 pm

Petrokovia wrote:
Union of Kiwi Socialists wrote:Communist turning capitalist? Is imperialism next?

I already trade with them. Trading with an ally isn't capitalism.

May I ask what your trade consists of, I'm curious?

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Petrokovia
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Petrokovia » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:58 pm

Union of Kiwi Socialists wrote:
Petrokovia wrote:I already trade with them. Trading with an ally isn't capitalism.

May I ask what your trade consists of, I'm curious?

Weapons, scientific research, various metals and ores, stone, foodstuffs, tractors and other agricultural machinery, cars, oil, natural gas... Pretty much anything we can make, we're willing to trade with close allies (So, the Americas).
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Communist from Philly living with multiplicity; We literally are Petrokovia. We are very spiritual adherents to our religion.
Pro: AES, Juche, communism, armed revolution, God (Mikotorma), reappropriating monarchical terms for socialist things (what's in a name?), the ethereal spaceship polycule sent by Allah to guide us, freedom of expression and religion
Anti: Fascism, absolute monarchy, capitalism, imperialism, Demiurge/Saklas, bigotry of any kind
Note: I do not use NS Stats, NS Tracker, etc. I only use my own factbooks and written information; The main canon used is the Democratic Socialist Vesperist Realms of Petrokovia (DSVRP)
من خلال الشدائد وسفك الدماء إلى المجد نسير بنور قلوبنا على طريق ميكوتورماه
National Anthem: Our Country!
National Religion: Vesperism

*Communist and Proud!*

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The Underground Movement Union
Senator
 
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Founded: Mar 07, 2014
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby The Underground Movement Union » Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:05 am

*sighs*

For the last time, I use Mixed economies WITH a few capitalist elements.
Fetlar wrote:95% of the human race should be sterilized.

Greater Cesnica wrote:I look at it like a spectrum- I'm at the middle. The crackpots are at either end.

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Esceen
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Founded: Nov 19, 2013
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Esceen » Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:11 am

The Underground Movement Union wrote:*sighs*

For the last time, I use Mixed economies WITH a few capitalist elements.

But that allows you to ally with the most communist of communists?

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Union of Kiwi Socialists
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Postby Union of Kiwi Socialists » Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:12 am

The Underground Movement Union wrote:*sighs*

For the last time, I use Mixed economies WITH a few capitalist elements.

By mixed do you mean centrist, or perhaps Democratic Socialist?

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ApplePieistan
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Founded: Apr 06, 2015
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Postby ApplePieistan » Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:15 am

Wait, does the Anti-Submarine Detection Investigation Committee work on stopping things that detect submarines or do they work on detecting submarines?

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Union of Kiwi Socialists
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Postby Union of Kiwi Socialists » Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:18 am

ApplePieistan wrote:Wait, does the Anti-Submarine Detection Investigation Committee work on stopping things that detect submarines or do they work on detecting submarines?

Britain invented Sonar. It helps to have the world's leading scientists working for him.

*cries as Roman Scientists struggle to build a wheel*

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Esceen
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Postby Esceen » Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:19 am

ApplePieistan wrote:Wait, does the Anti-Submarine Detection Investigation Committee work on stopping things that detect submarines or do they work on detecting submarines?

They don't exist, it's a cover

But if they did exist, they would work on detecting submarines

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Union of Kiwi Socialists
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Postby Union of Kiwi Socialists » Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:21 am

Union of Kiwi Socialists wrote:
ApplePieistan wrote:Wait, does the Anti-Submarine Detection Investigation Committee work on stopping things that detect submarines or do they work on detecting submarines?

Britain invented Sonar. It helps to have the world's leading scientists working for him.

*cries as Roman Scientists struggle to build a wheel*

Image

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Christian Constantinople
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Posts: 281
Founded: Jun 22, 2014
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Postby Christian Constantinople » Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:26 am

Union of Kiwi Socialists wrote:
Union of Kiwi Socialists wrote:Britain invented Sonar. It helps to have the world's leading scientists working for him.

*cries as Roman Scientists struggle to build a wheel*

Image

Glorious Roman technological prowess!

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World Anarchic Union
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Posts: 6269
Founded: Feb 10, 2015
Left-wing Utopia

Postby World Anarchic Union » Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:35 am

CC, sure. Let's say that.
Would you want for Bolivaria to export their movies to Argentina?
THE PEOPLE UNITED WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED!
VIVA ROJAVA!
VIVA EZLN!

PRO: Anarcho-Communism, Libertarian Socialism, Communalism, Revolutionary Catalonia, Council Communism, Direct Democracy, Ecology, Internationalism, Pro-Choice, Palestine, Feminism, LGBTQ+ Rights


ANTI: Capitalism, Imperialism, NATO, Fascism, Authoritarianism, Nationalism, (Neo)Liberalism, Conservatism, Reformism, Militarism, Misogyny, Racism
Political Compass:
Economic Left/Right: -9.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.77

Political Objectives:
Revolutionary
100 Equality, 93 Liberty and 29 Stability

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Christian Constantinople
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Founded: Jun 22, 2014
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Postby Christian Constantinople » Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:42 am

World Anarchic Union wrote:CC, sure. Let's say that.
Would you want for Bolivaria to export their movies to Argentina?

Any Spanish movie is a good movie! :)

Want some toasters?

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World Anarchic Union
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Founded: Feb 10, 2015
Left-wing Utopia

Postby World Anarchic Union » Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:53 am

Christian Constantinople wrote:
World Anarchic Union wrote:CC, sure. Let's say that.
Would you want for Bolivaria to export their movies to Argentina?

Any Spanish movie is a good movie! :)

Want some toasters?

Sure!
So, in 1911 we travel to Antartica on a South American expedition?
THE PEOPLE UNITED WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED!
VIVA ROJAVA!
VIVA EZLN!

PRO: Anarcho-Communism, Libertarian Socialism, Communalism, Revolutionary Catalonia, Council Communism, Direct Democracy, Ecology, Internationalism, Pro-Choice, Palestine, Feminism, LGBTQ+ Rights


ANTI: Capitalism, Imperialism, NATO, Fascism, Authoritarianism, Nationalism, (Neo)Liberalism, Conservatism, Reformism, Militarism, Misogyny, Racism
Political Compass:
Economic Left/Right: -9.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.77

Political Objectives:
Revolutionary
100 Equality, 93 Liberty and 29 Stability

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Christian Constantinople
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Founded: Jun 22, 2014
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Postby Christian Constantinople » Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:34 am

World Anarchic Union wrote:
Christian Constantinople wrote:Any Spanish movie is a good movie! :)

Want some toasters?

Sure!
So, in 1911 we travel to Antartica on a South American expedition?

Indeed! Don't freeze (cause you are tropical)

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World Anarchic Union
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby World Anarchic Union » Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:45 am

Christian Constantinople wrote:
World Anarchic Union wrote:Sure!
So, in 1911 we travel to Antartica on a South American expedition?

Indeed! Don't freeze (cause you are tropical)

I am not all tropical. I have Peru and its mountains.
THE PEOPLE UNITED WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED!
VIVA ROJAVA!
VIVA EZLN!

PRO: Anarcho-Communism, Libertarian Socialism, Communalism, Revolutionary Catalonia, Council Communism, Direct Democracy, Ecology, Internationalism, Pro-Choice, Palestine, Feminism, LGBTQ+ Rights


ANTI: Capitalism, Imperialism, NATO, Fascism, Authoritarianism, Nationalism, (Neo)Liberalism, Conservatism, Reformism, Militarism, Misogyny, Racism
Political Compass:
Economic Left/Right: -9.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.77

Political Objectives:
Revolutionary
100 Equality, 93 Liberty and 29 Stability

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Colonial Rhodesia
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Founded: Apr 27, 2015
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Postby Colonial Rhodesia » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:07 am

a nation once again!
"Remember that you are an Englishman, and have consequently won first prize in the lottery of life."-Cecil John Rhodes
Fighting Communism North of the Zambesi since 1965

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The New American commonwealth
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Postby The New American commonwealth » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:38 am

Colonial Rhodesia wrote:a nation once again!

I swear, I'm going to go Heinrich Himmler on you......


Also, shouldn't Davidson be out of office by now?
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Muh Freedom
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Colonial Rhodesia
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Postby Colonial Rhodesia » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:50 am

The New American commonwealth wrote:
Colonial Rhodesia wrote:a nation once again!

I swear, I'm going to go Heinrich Himmler on you......


Also, shouldn't Davidson be out of office by now?


obviously you and Britain have never seen the fields of Shangani but you will sooner or later.
"Remember that you are an Englishman, and have consequently won first prize in the lottery of life."-Cecil John Rhodes
Fighting Communism North of the Zambesi since 1965

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Esceen
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Postby Esceen » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:52 am

Hey if you want to go kill some Rhodesians thats fine with me, I'm done for the next 10 hours

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