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Postby Alouite » Thu May 21, 2015 6:39 pm

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ApplePieistan wrote:I think they just wanted to get out of there before a sizeable US counteroffensive could respond.

You really need to learn more history.

This^
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Postby Cerrania » Thu May 21, 2015 6:40 pm

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Cerrania wrote:Okay, so what about a struggling economy brought up by oil? Central/South American woes answered with oil from Venezuela and the Cuban Basin. Nations form a powerful conglomerate as a result, and use the oil as their main export. How's that?

Not good enough.

You're pushing a hard envelope here. How about that combined with rampant instability in the region? The offer of union came with an offer of stability, if under a sort of totalitarianism. But still, the oil stimulating the economy and the peace that a union would bring would be a fairly enticing reason to join up, if you were to ask me.
If not, I'm not entirely sure what you'd want.
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Postby Marsisian » Thu May 21, 2015 6:41 pm

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Marsisian wrote:Not good enough.

You're pushing a hard envelope here. How about that combined with rampant instability in the region? The offer of union came with an offer of stability, if under a sort of totalitarianism. But still, the oil stimulating the economy and the peace that a union would bring would be a fairly enticing reason to join up, if you were to ask me.
If not, I'm not entirely sure what you'd want.

A surviving nation that rebelled against Spain and managed to survive to the present day. And what nations exactly do you want?
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Thu May 21, 2015 6:42 pm

Alouite wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote:You really need to learn more history.

This^

Sorry, but history is one of the few things I am truly passionate about.
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Postby ApplePieistan » Thu May 21, 2015 6:44 pm

Australian Antarctica wrote:
Alouite wrote:This^

Sorry, but history is one of the few things I am truly passionate about.

Jeez, sorry I offended everyone with my ignorance, Mr. Child Prodigy. I promise to not pass my hunches and guesses off as answers again.
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Postby Cerrania » Thu May 21, 2015 6:44 pm

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Cerrania wrote:You're pushing a hard envelope here. How about that combined with rampant instability in the region? The offer of union came with an offer of stability, if under a sort of totalitarianism. But still, the oil stimulating the economy and the peace that a union would bring would be a fairly enticing reason to join up, if you were to ask me.
If not, I'm not entirely sure what you'd want.

A surviving nation that rebelled against Spain and managed to survive to the present day. And what nations exactly do you want?

I mean, wasn't South America fairly established and by this time anyways? And I would take Mexico to Venezuela, if that's okay with you(including some Caribbean countries) if that's okay with you. The land gain isn't that large, and I don't think I have any tactical advantage, considering how much border I would need to guard.

My bad, Belize was British Honduras until after WW2, but for the most part, South America had been independent for 100+ years. At least, all of my main countries.
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Thu May 21, 2015 6:45 pm

ApplePieistan wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote:Sorry, but history is one of the few things I am truly passionate about.

Jeez, sorry I offended everyone with my ignorance, Mr. Child Prodigy. I promise to not pass my hunches and guesses off as answers again.

You didn't offend anyone, trust me, it's nice to see someone attempting. Like I said, I apologize.
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Postby Marsisian » Thu May 21, 2015 6:49 pm

Cerrania wrote:
Marsisian wrote:A surviving nation that rebelled against Spain and managed to survive to the present day. And what nations exactly do you want?

I mean, wasn't South America fairly established and by this time anyways? And I would take Mexico to Venezuela, if that's okay with you(including some Caribbean countries) if that's okay with you. The land gain isn't that large, and I don't think I have any tactical advantage, considering how much border I would need to guard.

My bad, Belize was British Honduras until after WW2, but for the most part, South America had been independent for 100+ years. At least, all of my main countries.

You know how every nation in South America rebelled against Spain or Portugal at one point? They were all colonies. So make your nation one of those nations.

Mexico to Venezuela is too much. How about Colombia to the Mexican border with Central America?
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Postby New Besancon » Thu May 21, 2015 6:50 pm

So is there anything in particular that I should address in my first IC post?
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Postby Marsisian » Thu May 21, 2015 6:50 pm

New Besancon wrote:So is there anything in particular that I should address in my first IC post?

War.
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Postby New Besancon » Thu May 21, 2015 6:51 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Cerrania wrote:I mean, wasn't South America fairly established and by this time anyways? And I would take Mexico to Venezuela, if that's okay with you(including some Caribbean countries) if that's okay with you. The land gain isn't that large, and I don't think I have any tactical advantage, considering how much border I would need to guard.

My bad, Belize was British Honduras until after WW2, but for the most part, South America had been independent for 100+ years. At least, all of my main countries.

You know how every nation in South America rebelled against Spain or Portugal at one point? They were all colonies. So make your nation one of those nations.

Mexico to Venezuela is too much. How about Colombia to the Mexican border with Central America?


uhh... Panama Canal?
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Postby Cerrania » Thu May 21, 2015 6:51 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Cerrania wrote:I mean, wasn't South America fairly established and by this time anyways? And I would take Mexico to Venezuela, if that's okay with you(including some Caribbean countries) if that's okay with you. The land gain isn't that large, and I don't think I have any tactical advantage, considering how much border I would need to guard.

My bad, Belize was British Honduras until after WW2, but for the most part, South America had been independent for 100+ years. At least, all of my main countries.

You know how every nation in South America rebelled against Spain or Portugal at one point? They were all colonies. So make your nation one of those nations.

Mexico to Venezuela is too much. How about Colombia to the Mexican border with Central America?

That's perfectly fine, but may I please also include Venezuela? Their oil is central to the reasons that the union actually happened.
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Postby ApplePieistan » Thu May 21, 2015 6:52 pm

New Besancon wrote:So is there anything in particular that I should address in my first IC post?

Nothing happened in Asia. I could use some Mitsubishi zeros, though (I'm Italy). Also, it'd be very beneficial to snatch Hong Kong.

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Postby Marsisian » Thu May 21, 2015 6:52 pm

New Besancon wrote:
Marsisian wrote:You know how every nation in South America rebelled against Spain or Portugal at one point? They were all colonies. So make your nation one of those nations.

Mexico to Venezuela is too much. How about Colombia to the Mexican border with Central America?


uhh... Panama Canal?

What about it?
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Postby New Besancon » Thu May 21, 2015 6:59 pm

Marsisian wrote:
New Besancon wrote:
uhh... Panama Canal?

What about it?


How will America react when it's taken by this new country? Or was it ever built in the first place. . . ?
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Postby Cerrania » Thu May 21, 2015 7:01 pm

New Besancon wrote:
Marsisian wrote:What about it?


How will America react when it's taken by this new country? Or was it ever built in the first place. . . ?

Perhaps that can be the first action my union does, is seize the Canal. The Union can just be forming at the start of the role-play. It's all up in the air, and I haven't gotten an OK from Mars yet.
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Postby Marsisian » Thu May 21, 2015 7:03 pm

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Marsisian wrote:What about it?


How will America react when it's taken by this new country? Or was it ever built in the first place. . . ?

But it won't be a new union. Why does everybody say it's a new union? Bolivia was founded in 1825, is that a new union?

It's a country. A country which rose up in rebellion against Spain in the 1800s.
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Postby Cerrania » Thu May 21, 2015 7:05 pm

Marsisian wrote:
New Besancon wrote:
How will America react when it's taken by this new country? Or was it ever built in the first place. . . ?

But it won't be a new union. Why does everybody say it's a new union? Bolivia was founded in 1825, is that a new union?

It's a country. A country which rose up in rebellion against Spain in the 1800s.

We may be confused. I am asking for - I suppose - several nations' worth of territories in Central America/the Caribbean. That can be lumped into one nation, but I think it would be more akin to the USSR, in terms of how the territory is allotted.
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Postby Marsisian » Thu May 21, 2015 7:07 pm

Cerrania wrote:
Marsisian wrote:But it won't be a new union. Why does everybody say it's a new union? Bolivia was founded in 1825, is that a new union?

It's a country. A country which rose up in rebellion against Spain in the 1800s.

We may be confused. I am asking for - I suppose - several nations' worth of territories in Central America/the Caribbean. That can be lumped into one nation, but I think it would be more akin to the USSR, in terms of how the territory is allotted.

I see.
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Postby Cerrania » Thu May 21, 2015 7:12 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Cerrania wrote:We may be confused. I am asking for - I suppose - several nations' worth of territories in Central America/the Caribbean. That can be lumped into one nation, but I think it would be more akin to the USSR, in terms of how the territory is allotted.

I see.

These several nations banded together because of extreme instability and a massive recession that left several of the countries crippled. Venezuela, in communication with Cuba, offered a way out of sorts. A stabilization: oil. A commonwealth of nations with Venezuela and Cuba at the head, as they controlled massive stores of oil. The oil would stimulate the economy, and civil tension in the region would be slowly purged through a borderline-totalitarian regime. The union wouldn't explosively prosper and become a world power, but it wouldn't stagnate.
Is this okay?
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Postby Marsisian » Thu May 21, 2015 7:14 pm

Cerrania wrote:
Marsisian wrote:I see.

These several nations banded together because of extreme instability and a massive recession that left several of the countries crippled. Venezuela, in communication with Cuba, offered a way out of sorts. A stabilization: oil. A commonwealth of nations with Venezuela and Cuba at the head, as they controlled massive stores of oil. The oil would stimulate the economy, and civil tension in the region would be slowly purged through a borderline-totalitarian regime. The union wouldn't explosively prosper and become a world power, but it wouldn't stagnate.
Is this okay?

Cuba probably would have been supported economically by the United States.
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Postby New Besancon » Thu May 21, 2015 7:17 pm

I hope the guy playing as France knows what to do differently that what happened in real life-.-
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Postby Cerrania » Thu May 21, 2015 7:17 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Cerrania wrote:These several nations banded together because of extreme instability and a massive recession that left several of the countries crippled. Venezuela, in communication with Cuba, offered a way out of sorts. A stabilization: oil. A commonwealth of nations with Venezuela and Cuba at the head, as they controlled massive stores of oil. The oil would stimulate the economy, and civil tension in the region would be slowly purged through a borderline-totalitarian regime. The union wouldn't explosively prosper and become a world power, but it wouldn't stagnate.
Is this okay?

Cuba probably would have been supported economically by the United States.

I don't deny it. It would probably be best that the Central American Commonwealth(CAC) maintain close relations with the United States. However, if the Commonwealth is given the Ok, I may have Cuba lean off the proverbial economic crutch of the U.S.
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Postby Marsisian » Thu May 21, 2015 7:21 pm

Cerrania wrote:
Marsisian wrote:Cuba probably would have been supported economically by the United States.

I don't deny it. It would probably be best that the Central American Commonwealth(CAC) maintain close relations with the United States. However, if the Commonwealth is given the Ok, I may have Cuba lean off the proverbial economic crutch of the U.S.

It might be easier for you to be a surviving Gran Colombia or something.
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Postby Cerrania » Thu May 21, 2015 7:23 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Cerrania wrote:I don't deny it. It would probably be best that the Central American Commonwealth(CAC) maintain close relations with the United States. However, if the Commonwealth is given the Ok, I may have Cuba lean off the proverbial economic crutch of the U.S.

It might be easier for you to be a surviving Gran Colombia or something.

Is Colombia+Venezuela okay, then? I do really desire Venezuela.
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