The Second World War (OOC/Open/Limited AH)

[Marsisian]

Not sure that you'll be able to do that now. You have the Italians to deal with.

I have the BEF in France and the Mediterranean Fleet dealing with them at sea and the King's African Rifles/Indians/South Africans/Irish/Aussies/Kiwis in North Africa

Perhaps. But that's what the British thought in 1940 also.

[Nivok Baves]

I have the BEF in France and the Mediterranean Fleet dealing with them at sea and the King's African Rifles/Indians/South Africans/Irish/Aussies/Kiwis in North Africa

Perhaps. But that's what the British thought in 1940 also.

Hey, we WERE doing good until Rommel showed up

[Marsisian]

Perhaps. But that's what the British thought in 1940 also.

Hey, we WERE doing good until Rommel showed up

I'll bet Manstein will show up instead here.

[Nivok Baves]

Hey, we WERE doing good until Rommel showed up

I'll bet Manstein will show up instead here.

Please let him attack Russia, please let him attack Russia

[Marsisian]

I'll bet Manstein will show up instead here.

Please let him attack Russia, please let him attack Russia

Or perhaps Manstein and Rommel at the same time. Double threat.

[New Besancon]

Just saying, mobilizing 500 panzers in a span of about five days seems impossible.

First, it's likely they're from the Ardennes, where the Germans invaded. So it's over a large distance, and not directly from Germany.

Secondly, if you moved that many tanks from your launch point, the Ardennes is likely a lot less defended.

And thirdly, if you even got close to that number, they're likely second rate tanks, like Panzer I's and II's, or Panzer 38(t)'s. I say this because Panzer III's (the best German tank at the time) could not be used in great numbers during the Battle of France because they simply didn't have many to offer at the time, and those that did where armed with only 37mm guns, not the more effective 75mm. This coupled with the fact that it would be outclassed by the French SOMUA S35 and the Char B1 Bis, an panzer attack at Poix would be a lot smaller, and may not even succeed.

[Nivok Baves]

Please let him attack Russia, please let him attack Russia

Or perhaps Manstein and Rommel at the same time. Double threat.

Looks like it's Monty AND Claude Auchinleck to combat 'em

[Marsisian]

I think the Germans would simply outmaneuver and outwit your commanders even with less Panzers, competent air support, and excellent generals.

[Aliasa]

So the history of Spain is mine to play with right?

[Marsisian]

So the history of Spain is mine to play with right?

I suppose.

[Aliasa]

So the history of Spain is mine to play with right?

I suppose.

Oh fun.

[Benian Republic]

Or perhaps Manstein and Rommel at the same time. Double threat.

Looks like it's Monty AND Claude Auchinleck to combat 'em

I wish I had famous generals.

[Australian Antarctica]

I think the Germans would simply outmaneuver and outwit your commanders even with less Panzers, competent air support, and excellent generals.

Depends on how France plays it. Germany had Blitzkrieg, but if that were stopped, it could have eventually been repelled, or at least halted.

[Alouite]

What should I post.

[Zelent]

The average person swims 3 1/2 mph.

Can I just have boats drop them off at parts of the strait after a scout boat or plane sees them coming from the west? Also, Zelent, you don't have to remind me that the Commonwealth navy is better than mine. I know that they could beat me anywhere and that they can storm Rome whenever they want. That is why I'm trying to use different manners of fighting their ships, like using frogmen.
If they do attack Rome, there's not much I could do about it. I could try deploying some bottom contact mines by the shore, but even then I'd a very low
chance of success.

But it just cant work, your planes would be shot down and if they did get word to the boats, the boats would have to be close enough for the frogmen to catch up and swim to the boat, but far enough that they would not be spotted. Thats why frogmen are mainly used in secret harbor operations, not in the open sea.

[New Besancon]

I think the Germans would simply outmaneuver and outwit your commanders even with less Panzers, competent air support, and excellent generals.

Nonetheless, mobilizing 500 tanks in five days in impossible.

[Zelent]

Hey, Germanys back!!

Guess I will go for USA if no one wants it and its owner doesnt get here.

[Marsisian]

I think the Germans would simply outmaneuver and outwit your commanders even with less Panzers, competent air support, and excellent generals.

Nonetheless, mobilizing 500 tanks in five days in impossible.

He wouldn't need a lot of tanks to pull it off nonetheless.

[Marsisian]

Hey, Germanys back!!

Guess I will go for USA if no one wants it and its owner doesnt get here.

He was just here. But it is true that he has not made an IC post.

[ApplePieistan]

Can I just have boats drop them off at parts of the strait after a scout boat or plane sees them coming from the west? Also, Zelent, you don't have to remind me that the Commonwealth navy is better than mine. I know that they could beat me anywhere and that they can storm Rome whenever they want. That is why I'm trying to use different manners of fighting their ships, like using frogmen.
If they do attack Rome, there's not much I could do about it. I could try deploying some bottom contact mines by the shore, but even then I'd a very low
chance of success.

But it just cant work, your planes would be shot down and if they did get word to the boats, the boats would have to be close enough for the frogmen to catch up and swim to the boat, but far enough that they would not be spotted. Thats why frogmen are mainly used in secret harbor operations, not in the open sea.

What I'm hearing is: having them swim to French naval bases and plant limpet mines is a good idea.

[New Besancon]

Nonetheless, mobilizing 500 tanks in five days in impossible.

He wouldn't need a lot of tanks to pull it off nonetheless.

Why not? Because their generals were great? Here, the generals are only so good as the people RPing as them.

[Australian Antarctica]

But it just cant work, your planes would be shot down and if they did get word to the boats, the boats would have to be close enough for the frogmen to catch up and swim to the boat, but far enough that they would not be spotted. Thats why frogmen are mainly used in secret harbor operations, not in the open sea.

What I'm hearing is: having them swim to French naval bases and plant limpet mines is a good idea.

Also unlikely to work. Most likely they would have nets around the port and have regular patrols to fend off any attacks such as the one you are suggesting.

[Marsisian]

He wouldn't need a lot of tanks to pull it off nonetheless.

Why not? Because their generals were great? Here, the generals are only so good as the people RPing as them.

Not exactly. If you put Doug MacArthur in charge of an operation versus Erwin Rommel you can bet Doug and his side will lose.

[Kratu]

Just saying, mobilizing 500 panzers in a span of about five days seems impossible.

First, it's likely they're from the Ardennes, where the Germans invaded. So it's over a large distance, and not directly from Germany.

Secondly, if you moved that many tanks from your launch point, the Ardennes is likely a lot less defended.

And thirdly, if you even got close to that number, they're likely second rate tanks, like Panzer I's and II's, or Panzer 38(t)'s. I say this because Panzer III's (the best German tank at the time) could not be used in great numbers during the Battle of France because they simply didn't have many to offer at the time, and those that did where armed with only 37mm guns, not the more effective 75mm. This coupled with the fact that it would be outclassed by the French SOMUA S35 and the Char B1 Bis, an panzer attack at Poix would be a lot smaller, and may not even succeed.

I should point out though the majority of the Ardennes is under Rhenish control effectively allowing my armored forces to move across the Rhineland and pop into France without much resistance. Assuming the Rhenish could reach Poix de Picardie in the first place would mean that the stretch of territory from the Ardennes is under Axis control. Also the distance from the German border to Poix de Picardie is about twice the distance from Sedan to the German border. It only took two days for German forces to reach Sedan in reality and that was moving through hostile territory. So I don't think it's unrealistic for German forces to be approaching Poix de Picardie in six days especially when much of the territory is under Rhenish control.

The Ardennes needn't be heavily defended at the moment as the majority of the forest is Rhenish and again if the Rhenish could reach Poix they most likely control the near entirety of the forest. Supplemented with a few corps of infantry the forest would likely be defensible for the time being.

I could probably reduce the number of tanks. But I should point out at the Battle of Sedan in Our Timeline which started only 2 days after the initial launch of Case Red, had around 700-800 German Panzers and 60,000 German Men deployed and that's after pushing through an Ardennes not controlled by friendly nations. I understand that second-rate tanks are being used in large quantities as Panzer IIIs and IVs were not widely available at the time, I simply created a character who is in command of one. Though how is French doctrine in this RP, because in reality it wasn't German engineering that made their armor more effective it was their use and application of it.

[Benian Republic]

Why not? Because their generals were great? Here, the generals are only so good as the people RPing as them.

Not exactly. If you put Doug MacArthur in charge of an operation versus Erwin Rommel you can bet Doug and his side will lose.

Will you help me find Irish generals? I can't find anything.