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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon May 18, 2015 3:56 pm

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Whoever offers the most shit gets the carriers. All the older carriers are still pretty decent too; they'll probably need to be modernised with steam catapults and structural reworks and the like as they were historically (or proposed to be), so they're alternatives.


Older carriers will do just fine for Spain.


I've got four Illustrious-class carriers up for sale. I would sell Argus, because it's so damn old, but I'm going to give it to Pakistan when it's released. Any old ships that aren't sold are going to be dumped with newly-created colonies.

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Sveltlana wrote:
Older carriers will do just fine for Spain.


Ditto, though newer carriers are obviously preferred.


Obviously. You could also buy battleships and then convert them to carriers, although it'll be slightly more expensive but will give you some fairly tough carriers and turrets for naval fortifications.
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Mon May 18, 2015 4:08 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
Ditto, though newer carriers are obviously preferred.


Obviously. You could also buy battleships and then convert them to carriers, although it'll be slightly more expensive but will give you some fairly tough carriers and turrets for naval fortifications.

This might sound stupid, but conversion of battleships into carriers really sounds like some sort of Nigerian-prince scam.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon May 18, 2015 4:10 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:


Obviously. You could also buy battleships and then convert them to carriers, although it'll be slightly more expensive but will give you some fairly tough carriers and turrets for naval fortifications.

This might sound stupid, but conversion of battleships into carriers really sounds like some sort of Nigerian-prince scam.


The original carriers were conversions of battleship or cruise liner hulls. You'll have less hanger space than a conventional carrier, but much thicker armour.
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Mon May 18, 2015 4:19 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:This might sound stupid, but conversion of battleships into carriers really sounds like some sort of Nigerian-prince scam.


The original carriers were conversions of battleship or cruise liner hulls. You'll have less hanger space than a conventional carrier, but much thicker armour.

Sounds quite..... useful. Where's the catch, prince?
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Postby Rhodesia-Botswana » Mon May 18, 2015 4:21 pm

Australia shall strike a deal with Germany, we'll give them EXTREMELY cheap uranium and a place to test their nukes in Australia, in return we want blueprints for a nuke.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon May 18, 2015 4:23 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
The original carriers were conversions of battleship or cruise liner hulls. You'll have less hanger space than a conventional carrier, but much thicker armour.

Sounds quite..... useful. Where's the catch, prince?


Less hanger space means less aircraft. Can be costly to modify, depending on the hull. Also slower than normal carriers. But they're also tougher than normal carriers and can have a secondary battery unlike normal carriers. Plus the initial costs of buying them will be lower.
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Postby Lingria » Mon May 18, 2015 4:24 pm

Resarve Argentina pl0x
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Mon May 18, 2015 4:24 pm

Rhodesia-Botswana wrote:Australia shall strike a deal with Germany, we'll give them EXTREMELY cheap uranium and a place to test their nukes in Australia, in return we want blueprints for a nuke.

I doubt they'd do it, as then you'd hardly need them, would you? Same goes for actual nukes, I guess.
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The Jonathanian States wrote:Sounds quite..... useful. Where's the catch, prince?


Less hanger space means less aircraft. Can be costly to modify, depending on the hull. Also slower than normal carriers. But they're also tougher than normal carriers and can have a secondary battery unlike normal carriers. Plus the initial costs of buying them will be lower.

I'm surprised they didn't catch on more then. Or did they and I just really didn't hear much of them till now?
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Mon May 18, 2015 4:24 pm

Which region shall I covertly destabilize now...any Ideas guys?
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Mon May 18, 2015 4:25 pm

Lingria wrote:Resarve Argentina pl0x

Oh crap... Please no psycho queens this time?
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Postby Lingria » Mon May 18, 2015 4:28 pm

Australian Antarctica wrote:
Lingria wrote:Resarve Argentina pl0x

Oh crap... Please no psycho queens this time?

Nah, More like a quiet and reserved Empress
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon May 18, 2015 4:30 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Less hanger space means less aircraft. Can be costly to modify, depending on the hull. Also slower than normal carriers. But they're also tougher than normal carriers and can have a secondary battery unlike normal carriers. Plus the initial costs of buying them will be lower.

I'm surprised they didn't catch on more then. Or did they and I just really didn't hear much of them till now?


Béarn (the French WW2 carrier) was a converted Normandie-class battleship. But they weren't really used much, as naval capital warfare was focused mostly on battleships pre-war and entirely on carriers post-war, and most of the battleships were sunk or scrapped between 1945 and 1950 as people couldn't afford conversions.
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Mon May 18, 2015 4:31 pm

Lingria wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote:Oh crap... Please no psycho queens this time?

Nah, More like a quiet and reserved Empress

You'll still do something psycho. I know you....
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Postby Lingria » Mon May 18, 2015 4:32 pm

Australian Antarctica wrote:
Lingria wrote:Nah, More like a quiet and reserved Empress

You'll still do something psycho. I know you....

INVADE THE FALKLANDS! BAH BAH BAH!
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon May 18, 2015 4:34 pm

Lingria wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote:You'll still do something psycho. I know you....

INVADE THE FALKLANDS! BAH BAH BAH!


Can't let you do that Argentina.

Might send Vanguard and Warspite down that ways just in case.
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Mon May 18, 2015 4:35 pm

Lingria wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote:You'll still do something psycho. I know you....

INVADE THE FALKLANDS! BAH BAH BAH!

One of the dumbest, yet also most interesting, wars ever.
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Postby Lingria » Mon May 18, 2015 4:39 pm

Australian Antarctica wrote:
Lingria wrote:INVADE THE FALKLANDS! BAH BAH BAH!

One of the dumbest, yet also most interesting, wars ever.

We lurk, Lurking. MAH ISLANDS.
Lunas Legion wrote:
Lingria wrote:INVADE THE FALKLANDS! BAH BAH BAH!


Can't let you do that Argentina.

Might send Vanguard and Warspite down that ways just in case.


Can't let you do that England

Might buy Surface-to-air rockets from the French.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon May 18, 2015 4:44 pm

Lingria wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote:One of the dumbest, yet also most interesting, wars ever.

We lurk, Lurking. MAH ISLANDS.
Lunas Legion wrote:
Can't let you do that Argentina.

Might send Vanguard and Warspite down that ways just in case.


Can't let you do that England

Might buy Surface-to-air rockets from the French.


I'm sorry but anti-ship missiles aren't in production yet. You'll have to wait for 1958 before the Soviets get their first, IIRC.
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Postby Ecaria » Mon May 18, 2015 4:50 pm

I hope you people realize how much of a commitment carriers are.
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Mon May 18, 2015 4:54 pm

Ecaria wrote:I hope you people realize how much of a commitment carriers are.

It's like running a mini city. Except it floats, which adds another problem.
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Postby Ecaria » Mon May 18, 2015 4:56 pm

Australian Antarctica wrote:
Ecaria wrote:I hope you people realize how much of a commitment carriers are.

It's like running a mini city. Except it floats, which adds another problem.

Anyone smaller than a large power either can't afford them, or would be committing a grievous mistake by weakening there other military forces.

Secondly, why the UK selling carriers to anyone but Allies is even being considered boggles my mind.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon May 18, 2015 4:58 pm

Ecaria wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote:It's like running a mini city. Except it floats, which adds another problem.

Anyone smaller than a large power either can't afford them, or would be committing a grievous mistake by weakening there other military forces.

Secondly, why the UK selling carriers to anyone but Allies is even being considered boggles my mind.


Because everyone is willing to pay. I know roughly what I'm doing here. I need to shed carriers for when my Maltas finish, and so I'm doing that.
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Postby Lingria » Mon May 18, 2015 5:00 pm

I need help......Should I play Peru....or Argentina? Or do you need me to play a different nation?
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Mon May 18, 2015 5:01 pm

Lingria wrote:I need help......Should I play Peru....or Argentina? Or do you need me to play a different nation?

Play as Evilistan.
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Postby Ecaria » Mon May 18, 2015 5:02 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Ecaria wrote:Anyone smaller than a large power either can't afford them, or would be committing a grievous mistake by weakening there other military forces.

Secondly, why the UK selling carriers to anyone but Allies is even being considered boggles my mind.


Because everyone is willing to pay. I know roughly what I'm doing here. I need to shed carriers for when my Maltas finish, and so I'm doing that.

And if the UK even thought about doing this, they would dropped from the Allies and considered an enemy state. The US would fund the opposition and the CIA would attempt to eliminate the ruling party.

This idea is so ridiculous, so nonsensical, the fact that it is being accepted it makes me question the quality of the RP.
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