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Altito Asmoro
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Sun May 17, 2015 4:53 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:I sense the bells of bias ringing.

It gives somewhere for the Dutch government-in-exile to sit when Indonesia inevitable declares independence, and it's basically useless anyway.

In my almost completed app for Netherlands, I include Netherlands colonies in Caribbean too, so even if you did not gave Suriname the kingdom can sit at one of the Caribbean colonies.

And Indonesia will be independent no matter how much the Dutch tried to stopped it.
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Postby Rhodesia-Botswana » Sun May 17, 2015 5:00 pm

Altito Asmoro wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:It gives somewhere for the Dutch government-in-exile to sit when Indonesia inevitable declares independence, and it's basically useless anyway.

In my almost completed app for Netherlands, I include Netherlands colonies in Caribbean too, so even if you did not gave Suriname the kingdom can sit at one of the Caribbean colonies.

And Indonesia will be independent no matter how much the Dutch tried to stopped it.

Indonesia will be independent over Australia and NZ's dead bodies.
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Sun May 17, 2015 5:05 pm

Rhodesia-Botswana wrote:
Altito Asmoro wrote:In my almost completed app for Netherlands, I include Netherlands colonies in Caribbean too, so even if you did not gave Suriname the kingdom can sit at one of the Caribbean colonies.

And Indonesia will be independent no matter how much the Dutch tried to stopped it.

Indonesia will be independent over Australia and NZ's dead bodies.

Well a war is needed anyway to be independent. I do not know whether USA will be happy with the independence attempt.
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Postby Fascist Republic Of Bermuda » Sun May 17, 2015 5:14 pm

OK, back to working on my Germa- Gottverdammt!

OK, going back to Spai- Cabron!

Alrighty, cussing in foreign languages aside, RESERVE HUNGARY, please.
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Postby Mesrane » Sun May 17, 2015 5:22 pm

I'll finish my Finland app tonight.
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Postby Baja California y Sonora » Sun May 17, 2015 6:04 pm

Actually, change my reservation to the Latin American People's Republic pls.

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Postby Epraria » Sun May 17, 2015 9:28 pm

Why do i keep getting accepted with unfinished apps?
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Postby Mesrane » Sun May 17, 2015 10:06 pm

Generic Info
Nation Name: The Kingdom of Finland
Symbols: (ex. Flag, Coat of Arms, National Anthem, personifications, etc.) WIP
Location: Finland (39)
Homeland Population: (population of everyone considered a citizen) 4,000,000
Imperial Population: (include population of colonies)
Capital City: Helsinki

Government Info
Government Type: (ex. The USA is a Presidential Constitutional Federal Republic) Constitutional Monarchy
Brief Explanation of Government: (explain all the complex/unique stuff that can't be described in the type section)
Ideology: (Refer to this) Finnish nationalism,
Leader/s: King Matias I Vankka, Prime Minister Toivo Partanen

Population Info
Brief Description of your people:
Religion: The vast majority of Finns(over 80%) identify as Lutherans, though there is a small Catholic community. The remainder simply do not identify with any religion.
Ethnicity: 94% Finnish, 6% Swedish
Main/Accepted Culture(s): (ex. IRL-UK would be English, Scottish; only cultures that are dominant and the gov't favors) Finnish, Swedish
Other Cultures: (ex. IRL-UK would have been Irish, Welsh, etc ; cultures that aren't accepted by the gov't/people) Sami

Military Info
Army:

The active duty forces number 40,000 men. These units have been armed and largely trained by Germany, and are quality soldiers (although their doctrine mostly involves defensive tactics similar to those used in the Winter War). Most of the mid-level officers are Winter War veterans. Many units also served stints assisting the Wehrmacht on various fronts, so they have that experience to draw from as well. The Army's 120 tanks are supplied by Germany, as are most of the heavy weapons like artillery and mortars. This section of the branch consists of 4 divisions of 10,000 men each, which are further divided into two brigades of 5,000 men and five regiments of 1,000 men.

The reserve forces number 70,000 and use much of the same equipment as the active divisions, though sometimes older versions. Their training is not quite on par with the active forces, but they are still fairly effective soldiers. Under Partanen's new "maanpuolustus" system, special police forces and government-sponsored paramilitary groups can be called up for service in the most dire of situations. Should they be raised in full, Finland can field a maximum of 210,000 men in total for its defense. These paramilitaries however receive only rudimentary training and get the last pickings for their small arms; often these are outdated and jam-prone. Nonetheless, they served Finland well during the Winter War.

Navy:

The Navy gets the least attention in the Finnish Military, as it's quite obvious that no matter how much funding is poured into it, a determined assault from the Soviet Navy would defeat it. Still, for a nation of four million people, it's not too shabby: 20,000 men manning four subs and two cruisers, along with a half dozen coastal patrol boats. As with the Army, exercises are regularly held with the Germans.

Other Info
Faction/Sphere: (Allies, Axis, Comintern, or non-aligned) Axis, but looking to distance itself from Germany and become non-aligned, if it can survive the Soviets.
Brief Description of your Economy:

Finland's economy has recovered from the damage dealt to it in the aftermath of the Winter War, becoming fairly industrialized, and important for the manufacturing of industrial machinery as well as for lumber. There are government restrictions that make it a mixed economy, but Finland is hungry for foreign partnerships and the Partanen government is looking into greater economic relations with market economies outside of the largely state controlled economies of the Axis.

Goals: Politically distance Finland from Germany without overly antagonizing them, survive Soviets, improve relations with the Allies, possibly ally with Sweden/form some kind of defense bloc with them and maybe Norway.

History:

The fledgling Kingdom of Finland manged to survive it's post-civil war uncertainty, and the king-elect Prince Frederick Charles of Hesse was able to take his throne in Helsinki thanks to the exhaustion of the allies, even after the Treaty of Versailles. Being German, and the brother-in-law of Kaiser Wilhelm no less, King Frederick found it difficult to earn the trust of his new people. He took major steps to literally make himself a Finn, by learning the Finnish language, marrying a Finnish woman, giving Finnish names to his children and declining to educate them in the German language. He took the dynastic name "Vankka," meaning strong in Finnish, thus becoming King Frederick I Vankka. Monarchists won a small majority in the 1922 elections, but the large numbers of Republicans meant that the finalized 1923 Constitution gave Frederick only a small amount of power, mostly as Commander-in-Chief but otherwise excluding him from politics. Frederick was not terribly upset by this, content to serve as the figurehead that Finland needed.

During the 1918 Civil War, the Whites had successfully countered Soviet influence that threatened to boost the Reds and win them the war. Despite the White victory, a now-stabilized USSR was a looming threat to a conservative, monarchist Finland, and so throughout the 20's and early 30's the military was of the utmost importance, and the Finns did the best they could with the small tax base they had. Finland became a significantly militarized nation for its size. King Frederick became the symbolic if not political head of what he himself dubbed "Piikkisika," the porcupine nation.

By the time Hitler came to power in Germany, it was apparent that the USSR was not exactly interested in a war of conquest on Finland, and the militarization programs lost popularity because many Finns believed tensions were not high enough to warrant them. The centrist National Progressive Party won the 1933 elections and military funding was sharply reduced.

During the remainder of the decade, Finland developed closer commercial ties to Britain as Hitler's antics ramped up tensions across the continent. The Soviet Union began to pursue the reestablishment of the old Tsarist borders and in 1938 suggested Finland make several territorial concessions. The Finns refused, and relations began to deteriorate from there.

Frederick and Prime Minister Aimo Cajander renewed the militarization programs, but not quickly enough. In October 1939 the last negotiations broke down and on November 30th of that year, the Soviets invaded, starting the Winter War.

The Finns resisted valiantly, using guerrilla tactics to chop up long, vulnerable columns of Soviet troops on narrow forest roads. As the war in Western Europe had more or less ground to a halt with the onset of Winter, the world watched as tiny Finland foiled its gargantuan neighbor time and time again in the blood-stained snows of December and January.

A Finnish victory was simply an impossibility, however. The Soviets committed more and more troops and surged forward again from mid February to mid March 1940, bringing Finland to the negotiating table.

The Moscow Peace Treaty was signed on 12 March 1940 and went into effect the following day. Finland ceded a portion of Karelia—the entire Karelian Isthmus-along with the city of Viipuri and much of the country's industrial territory. The Gulf of Finland Islands were also lost, along with the Hanko peninsula and the Salla region in central Finland.

The war turned the Finnish psyche firmly against the USSR and all things Soviet. In 1942, Finland entered into an alliance with Germany in order to protect itself from further Soviet aggression. A few Finnish units would serve with German forces in various fronts throughout Europe, even though few in Finland enjoyed what they saw as an alliance of convenience with a country they didn't like to protect against aggression from a country that they hated.

Tensions with the USSR remained high, but war did not break out again despite a series of border skirmishes from 1943-1944.

Peace came in 1945, and relations with the Soviets improved slightly, although tensions remained. Frederick died later that year, and Crown Prince Matias ascended the throne, becoming King Matias I Vankka.

With the USSR no longer occupied with war, Finland faced the prospect of a renewed assault, and more effort was made to enlarge and modernize the military than ever. Prime Minister Toivo Partanen instituted policies that increased taxes to fund the military and cut back slightly on civil and political rights to maintain national unity. Communist groups and activities were outright banned in 1948, and the Social Democratic Party was left alone after a brief period of scrutiny.

Post-war Finland was compelled into further cooperation with Germany and the Axis, managing to avoid Norway's fate as a puppet state and yet still maintain a fairly healthy democracy. The renewed armament programs pursued by Matias and Partanen have seen Finland become more militarized than ever. Germany is the main source of arms and vehicles. Recent legislature has instituted the "mandatory arming," of the populace, similar to Switzerland. The attitude of the current government and most of the populace towards Germany is one of disgusted cooperation; for Finland's own survival, it will work with the Axis, but the Allied nations are greatly preferred even though Partanen recognizes that Finland can't exactly leave the Axis when Europe is so dominated by Germany and it's more willing allies. The Partanen government has also recently pursued closer ties with Sweden.

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Postby Rhodesia-Botswana » Sun May 17, 2015 10:23 pm

Mesrane wrote:
Generic Info
Nation Name: The Kingdom of Finland
Symbols: (ex. Flag, Coat of Arms, National Anthem, personifications, etc.) WIP
Location: Finland (39)
Homeland Population: (population of everyone considered a citizen) 4,000,000
Imperial Population: (include population of colonies)
Capital City: Helsinki

Government Info
Government Type: (ex. The USA is a Presidential Constitutional Federal Republic) Constitutional Monarchy
Brief Explanation of Government: (explain all the complex/unique stuff that can't be described in the type section)
Ideology: (Refer to this) Finnish nationalism,
Leader/s: King Matias I Vankka, Prime Minister Toivo Partanen

Population Info
Brief Description of your people:
Religion: The vast majority of Finns(over 80%) identify as Lutherans, though there is a small Catholic community. The remainder simply do not identify with any religion.
Ethnicity: 94% Finnish, 6% Swedish
Main/Accepted Culture(s): (ex. IRL-UK would be English, Scottish; only cultures that are dominant and the gov't favors) Finnish, Swedish
Other Cultures: (ex. IRL-UK would have been Irish, Welsh, etc ; cultures that aren't accepted by the gov't/people) Sami

Military Info
Army:

The active duty forces number 40,000 men. These units have been armed and largely trained by Germany, and are quality soldiers (although their doctrine mostly involves defensive tactics similar to those used in the Winter War). Most of the mid-level officers are Winter War veterans. Many units also served stints assisting the Wehrmacht on various fronts, so they have that experience to draw from as well. The Army's 120 tanks are supplied by Germany, as are most of the heavy weapons like artillery and mortars. This section of the branch consists of 4 divisions of 10,000 men each, which are further divided into two brigades of 5,000 men and five regiments of 1,000 men.

The reserve forces number 70,000 and use much of the same equipment as the active divisions, though sometimes older versions. Their training is not quite on par with the active forces, but they are still fairly effective soldiers. Under Partanen's new "maanpuolustus" system, special police forces and government-sponsored paramilitary groups can be called up for service in the most dire of situations. Should they be raised in full, Finland can field a maximum of 210,000 men in total for its defense. These paramilitaries however receive only rudimentary training and get the last pickings for their small arms; often these are outdated and jam-prone. Nonetheless, they served Finland well during the Winter War.

Navy:

The Navy gets the least attention in the Finnish Military, as it's quite obvious that no matter how much funding is poured into it, a determined assault from the Soviet Navy would defeat it. Still, for a nation of four million people, it's not too shabby: 20,000 men manning four subs and two cruisers, along with a half dozen coastal patrol boats. As with the Army, exercises are regularly held with the Germans.

Other Info
Faction/Sphere: (Allies, Axis, Comintern, or non-aligned) Axis, but looking to distance itself from Germany and become non-aligned, if it can survive the Soviets.
Brief Description of your Economy:

Finland's economy has recovered from the damage dealt to it in the aftermath of the Winter War, becoming fairly industrialized, and important for the manufacturing of industrial machinery as well as for lumber. There are government restrictions that make it a mixed economy, but Finland is hungry for foreign partnerships and the Partanen government is looking into greater economic relations with market economies outside of the largely state controlled economies of the Axis.

Goals: Politically distance Finland from Germany without overly antagonizing them, survive Soviets, improve relations with the Allies, possibly ally with Sweden/form some kind of defense bloc with them and maybe Norway.

History:

The fledgling Kingdom of Finland manged to survive it's post-civil war uncertainty, and the king-elect Prince Frederick Charles of Hesse was able to take his throne in Helsinki thanks to the exhaustion of the allies, even after the Treaty of Versailles. Being German, and the brother-in-law of Kaiser Wilhelm no less, King Frederick found it difficult to earn the trust of his new people. He took major steps to literally make himself a Finn, by learning the Finnish language, marrying a Finnish woman, giving Finnish names to his children and declining to educate them in the German language. He took the dynastic name "Vankka," meaning strong in Finnish, thus becoming King Frederick I Vankka. Monarchists won a small majority in the 1922 elections, but the large numbers of Republicans meant that the finalized 1923 Constitution gave Frederick only a small amount of power, mostly as Commander-in-Chief but otherwise excluding him from politics. Frederick was not terribly upset by this, content to serve as the figurehead that Finland needed.

During the 1918 Civil War, the Whites had successfully countered Soviet influence that threatened to boost the Reds and win them the war. Despite the White victory, a now-stabilized USSR was a looming threat to a conservative, monarchist Finland, and so throughout the 20's and early 30's the military was of the utmost importance, and the Finns did the best they could with the small tax base they had. Finland became a significantly militarized nation for its size. King Frederick became the symbolic if not political head of what he himself dubbed "Piikkisika," the porcupine nation.

By the time Hitler came to power in Germany, it was apparent that the USSR was not exactly interested in a war of conquest on Finland, and the militarization programs lost popularity because many Finns believed tensions were not high enough to warrant them. The centrist National Progressive Party won the 1933 elections and military funding was sharply reduced.

During the remainder of the decade, Finland developed closer commercial ties to Britain as Hitler's antics ramped up tensions across the continent. The Soviet Union began to pursue the reestablishment of the old Tsarist borders and in 1938 suggested Finland make several territorial concessions. The Finns refused, and relations began to deteriorate from there.

Frederick and Prime Minister Aimo Cajander renewed the militarization programs, but not quickly enough. In October 1939 the last negotiations broke down and on November 30th of that year, the Soviets invaded, starting the Winter War.

The Finns resisted valiantly, using guerrilla tactics to chop up long, vulnerable columns of Soviet troops on narrow forest roads. As the war in Western Europe had more or less ground to a halt with the onset of Winter, the world watched as tiny Finland foiled its gargantuan neighbor time and time again in the blood-stained snows of December and January.

A Finnish victory was simply an impossibility, however. The Soviets committed more and more troops and surged forward again from mid February to mid March 1940, bringing Finland to the negotiating table.

The Moscow Peace Treaty was signed on 12 March 1940 and went into effect the following day. Finland ceded a portion of Karelia—the entire Karelian Isthmus-along with the city of Viipuri and much of the country's industrial territory. The Gulf of Finland Islands were also lost, along with the Hanko peninsula and the Salla region in central Finland.

The war turned the Finnish psyche firmly against the USSR and all things Soviet. In 1942, Finland entered into an alliance with Germany in order to protect itself from further Soviet aggression. A few Finnish units would serve with German forces in various fronts throughout Europe, even though few in Finland enjoyed what they saw as an alliance of convenience with a country they didn't like to protect against aggression from a country that they hated.

Tensions with the USSR remained high, but war did not break out again despite a series of border skirmishes from 1943-1944.

Peace came in 1945, and relations with the Soviets improved slightly, although tensions remained. Frederick died later that year, and Crown Prince Matias ascended the throne, becoming King Matias I Vankka.

With the USSR no longer occupied with war, Finland faced the prospect of a renewed assault, and more effort was made to enlarge and modernize the military than ever. Prime Minister Toivo Partanen instituted policies that increased taxes to fund the military and cut back slightly on civil and political rights to maintain national unity. Communist groups and activities were outright banned in 1948, and the Social Democratic Party was left alone after a brief period of scrutiny.

Post-war Finland was compelled into further cooperation with Germany and the Axis, managing to avoid Norway's fate as a puppet state and yet still maintain a fairly healthy democracy. The renewed armament programs pursued by Matias and Partanen have seen Finland become more militarized than ever. Germany is the main source of arms and vehicles. Recent legislature has instituted the "mandatory arming," of the populace, similar to Switzerland. The attitude of the current government and most of the populace towards Germany is one of disgusted cooperation; for Finland's own survival, it will work with the Axis, but the Allied nations are greatly preferred even though Partanen recognizes that Finland can't exactly leave the Axis when Europe is so dominated by Germany and it's more willing allies. The Partanen government has also recently pursued closer ties with Sweden.

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Maybe the Finns will declare war on the Germans so Finns can be officially recognised as White Europeans. :^)))))
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Postby Epraria » Sun May 17, 2015 10:27 pm

Rhodesia-Botswana wrote:
Mesrane wrote:
Generic Info
Nation Name: The Kingdom of Finland
Symbols: (ex. Flag, Coat of Arms, National Anthem, personifications, etc.) WIP
Location: Finland (39)
Homeland Population: (population of everyone considered a citizen) 4,000,000
Imperial Population: (include population of colonies)
Capital City: Helsinki

Government Info
Government Type: (ex. The USA is a Presidential Constitutional Federal Republic) Constitutional Monarchy
Brief Explanation of Government: (explain all the complex/unique stuff that can't be described in the type section)
Ideology: (Refer to this) Finnish nationalism,
Leader/s: King Matias I Vankka, Prime Minister Toivo Partanen

Population Info
Brief Description of your people:
Religion: The vast majority of Finns(over 80%) identify as Lutherans, though there is a small Catholic community. The remainder simply do not identify with any religion.
Ethnicity: 94% Finnish, 6% Swedish
Main/Accepted Culture(s): (ex. IRL-UK would be English, Scottish; only cultures that are dominant and the gov't favors) Finnish, Swedish
Other Cultures: (ex. IRL-UK would have been Irish, Welsh, etc ; cultures that aren't accepted by the gov't/people) Sami

Military Info
Army:

The active duty forces number 40,000 men. These units have been armed and largely trained by Germany, and are quality soldiers (although their doctrine mostly involves defensive tactics similar to those used in the Winter War). Most of the mid-level officers are Winter War veterans. Many units also served stints assisting the Wehrmacht on various fronts, so they have that experience to draw from as well. The Army's 120 tanks are supplied by Germany, as are most of the heavy weapons like artillery and mortars. This section of the branch consists of 4 divisions of 10,000 men each, which are further divided into two brigades of 5,000 men and five regiments of 1,000 men.

The reserve forces number 70,000 and use much of the same equipment as the active divisions, though sometimes older versions. Their training is not quite on par with the active forces, but they are still fairly effective soldiers. Under Partanen's new "maanpuolustus" system, special police forces and government-sponsored paramilitary groups can be called up for service in the most dire of situations. Should they be raised in full, Finland can field a maximum of 210,000 men in total for its defense. These paramilitaries however receive only rudimentary training and get the last pickings for their small arms; often these are outdated and jam-prone. Nonetheless, they served Finland well during the Winter War.

Navy:

The Navy gets the least attention in the Finnish Military, as it's quite obvious that no matter how much funding is poured into it, a determined assault from the Soviet Navy would defeat it. Still, for a nation of four million people, it's not too shabby: 20,000 men manning four subs and two cruisers, along with a half dozen coastal patrol boats. As with the Army, exercises are regularly held with the Germans.

Other Info
Faction/Sphere: (Allies, Axis, Comintern, or non-aligned) Axis, but looking to distance itself from Germany and become non-aligned, if it can survive the Soviets.
Brief Description of your Economy:

Finland's economy has recovered from the damage dealt to it in the aftermath of the Winter War, becoming fairly industrialized, and important for the manufacturing of industrial machinery as well as for lumber. There are government restrictions that make it a mixed economy, but Finland is hungry for foreign partnerships and the Partanen government is looking into greater economic relations with market economies outside of the largely state controlled economies of the Axis.

Goals: Politically distance Finland from Germany without overly antagonizing them, survive Soviets, improve relations with the Allies, possibly ally with Sweden/form some kind of defense bloc with them and maybe Norway.

History:

The fledgling Kingdom of Finland manged to survive it's post-civil war uncertainty, and the king-elect Prince Frederick Charles of Hesse was able to take his throne in Helsinki thanks to the exhaustion of the allies, even after the Treaty of Versailles. Being German, and the brother-in-law of Kaiser Wilhelm no less, King Frederick found it difficult to earn the trust of his new people. He took major steps to literally make himself a Finn, by learning the Finnish language, marrying a Finnish woman, giving Finnish names to his children and declining to educate them in the German language. He took the dynastic name "Vankka," meaning strong in Finnish, thus becoming King Frederick I Vankka. Monarchists won a small majority in the 1922 elections, but the large numbers of Republicans meant that the finalized 1923 Constitution gave Frederick only a small amount of power, mostly as Commander-in-Chief but otherwise excluding him from politics. Frederick was not terribly upset by this, content to serve as the figurehead that Finland needed.

During the 1918 Civil War, the Whites had successfully countered Soviet influence that threatened to boost the Reds and win them the war. Despite the White victory, a now-stabilized USSR was a looming threat to a conservative, monarchist Finland, and so throughout the 20's and early 30's the military was of the utmost importance, and the Finns did the best they could with the small tax base they had. Finland became a significantly militarized nation for its size. King Frederick became the symbolic if not political head of what he himself dubbed "Piikkisika," the porcupine nation.

By the time Hitler came to power in Germany, it was apparent that the USSR was not exactly interested in a war of conquest on Finland, and the militarization programs lost popularity because many Finns believed tensions were not high enough to warrant them. The centrist National Progressive Party won the 1933 elections and military funding was sharply reduced.

During the remainder of the decade, Finland developed closer commercial ties to Britain as Hitler's antics ramped up tensions across the continent. The Soviet Union began to pursue the reestablishment of the old Tsarist borders and in 1938 suggested Finland make several territorial concessions. The Finns refused, and relations began to deteriorate from there.

Frederick and Prime Minister Aimo Cajander renewed the militarization programs, but not quickly enough. In October 1939 the last negotiations broke down and on November 30th of that year, the Soviets invaded, starting the Winter War.

The Finns resisted valiantly, using guerrilla tactics to chop up long, vulnerable columns of Soviet troops on narrow forest roads. As the war in Western Europe had more or less ground to a halt with the onset of Winter, the world watched as tiny Finland foiled its gargantuan neighbor time and time again in the blood-stained snows of December and January.

A Finnish victory was simply an impossibility, however. The Soviets committed more and more troops and surged forward again from mid February to mid March 1940, bringing Finland to the negotiating table.

The Moscow Peace Treaty was signed on 12 March 1940 and went into effect the following day. Finland ceded a portion of Karelia—the entire Karelian Isthmus-along with the city of Viipuri and much of the country's industrial territory. The Gulf of Finland Islands were also lost, along with the Hanko peninsula and the Salla region in central Finland.

The war turned the Finnish psyche firmly against the USSR and all things Soviet. In 1942, Finland entered into an alliance with Germany in order to protect itself from further Soviet aggression. A few Finnish units would serve with German forces in various fronts throughout Europe, even though few in Finland enjoyed what they saw as an alliance of convenience with a country they didn't like to protect against aggression from a country that they hated.

Tensions with the USSR remained high, but war did not break out again despite a series of border skirmishes from 1943-1944.

Peace came in 1945, and relations with the Soviets improved slightly, although tensions remained. Frederick died later that year, and Crown Prince Matias ascended the throne, becoming King Matias I Vankka.

With the USSR no longer occupied with war, Finland faced the prospect of a renewed assault, and more effort was made to enlarge and modernize the military than ever. Prime Minister Toivo Partanen instituted policies that increased taxes to fund the military and cut back slightly on civil and political rights to maintain national unity. Communist groups and activities were outright banned in 1948, and the Social Democratic Party was left alone after a brief period of scrutiny.

Post-war Finland was compelled into further cooperation with Germany and the Axis, managing to avoid Norway's fate as a puppet state and yet still maintain a fairly healthy democracy. The renewed armament programs pursued by Matias and Partanen have seen Finland become more militarized than ever. Germany is the main source of arms and vehicles. Recent legislature has instituted the "mandatory arming," of the populace, similar to Switzerland. The attitude of the current government and most of the populace towards Germany is one of disgusted cooperation; for Finland's own survival, it will work with the Axis, but the Allied nations are greatly preferred even though Partanen recognizes that Finland can't exactly leave the Axis when Europe is so dominated by Germany and it's more willing allies. The Partanen government has also recently pursued closer ties with Sweden.

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Maybe the Finns will declare war on the Germans so Finns can be officially recognised as White Europeans. :^)))))
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Why would the finns declare war on Das Reich? They are considered true Europeans after all.
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Postby Rhodesia-Botswana » Sun May 17, 2015 10:32 pm

Epraria wrote:
Rhodesia-Botswana wrote:Maybe the Finns will declare war on the Germans so Finns can be officially recognised as White Europeans. :^)))))
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Why would the finns declare war on Das Reich? They are considered true Europeans after all.


Might want to check the DNA makeup of the average Finn from Helsinki m8. I wouldn't consider them "true" Europeans.
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Postby Epraria » Sun May 17, 2015 10:52 pm

Rhodesia-Botswana wrote:
Epraria wrote:Why would the finns declare war on Das Reich? They are considered true Europeans after all.


Might want to check the DNA makeup of the average Finn from Helsinki m8. I wouldn't consider them "true" Europeans.

And the Nazis accepted the Hungarians and Finns just fine in RL. Germany isn't ruled by an genocidal dictatorship obsessed with racial purity, it's ruled by a military dictatorship here. Admittedly Germany is still probably the bad guy here.
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Sun May 17, 2015 11:01 pm

Epraria wrote:
Rhodesia-Botswana wrote:
Might want to check the DNA makeup of the average Finn from Helsinki m8. I wouldn't consider them "true" Europeans.

And the Nazis accepted the Hungarians and Finns just fine in RL. Germany isn't ruled by an genocidal dictatorship obsessed with racial purity, it's ruled by a military dictatorship here. Admittedly Germany is still probably the bad guy here.

Finns were made honorary Aryans
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Postby Caltarania » Sun May 17, 2015 11:01 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote:I think I might have seen a Germany app a couple pages back.


Yeah, Ep created a Germany app.

Also I finally finished compiling a list of all currently existing capital ships in the Royal Navy to sell, including under construction ships. Needless to say I want to sell off quite a few of my 18 carriers.

I'll begin working on crusiers, subs and escorts tomorrow.


Comrade Blighty, may I purchase a few carriers?

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Epraria wrote:
Rhodesia-Botswana wrote:
Might want to check the DNA makeup of the average Finn from Helsinki m8. I wouldn't consider them "true" Europeans.

And the Nazis accepted the Hungarians and Finns just fine in RL. Germany isn't ruled by an genocidal dictatorship obsessed with racial purity, it's ruled by a military dictatorship here. Admittedly Germany is still probably the bad guy here.


Da. They also considered the Japanese to be "honourary Aryans".
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Postby Sveltlana » Sun May 17, 2015 11:12 pm

My Spain app is at the top of 2-3 pages back or so.
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Postby Epraria » Sun May 17, 2015 11:16 pm

Sveltlana wrote:My Spain app is at the top of 2-3 pages back or so.

Hey Franco want to be buddies?

I hate saying that.
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Postby Sveltlana » Sun May 17, 2015 11:19 pm

Epraria wrote:
Sveltlana wrote:My Spain app is at the top of 2-3 pages back or so.

Hey Franco want to be buddies?

I hate saying that.


Sure, for like, 5 minutes.

Franco is about to be assassinated :D
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Postby Epraria » Sun May 17, 2015 11:19 pm

Sveltlana wrote:
Epraria wrote:Hey Franco want to be buddies?

I hate saying that.


Sure, for like, 5 minutes.

Franco is about to be assassinated :D

So who will replace him?
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

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Postby Mesrane » Sun May 17, 2015 11:21 pm

Epraria wrote:
Rhodesia-Botswana wrote:
Might want to check the DNA makeup of the average Finn from Helsinki m8. I wouldn't consider them "true" Europeans.

And the Nazis accepted the Hungarians and Finns just fine in RL. Germany isn't ruled by an genocidal dictatorship obsessed with racial purity, it's ruled by a military dictatorship here. Admittedly Germany is still probably the bad guy here.

I'm not about to go to war with Germany, Finland probably won't even leave the Axis unless it gets a lot of support from the Allies, which is unlikely considering it borders the USSR and is in the midst of HappyReichLandTM. What it's looking to do is distance itself as much as possible from Berlin while still ensuring the Germans aide them in the event of RedQuake 2.0.
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Postby Epraria » Sun May 17, 2015 11:23 pm

Mesrane wrote:
Epraria wrote:And the Nazis accepted the Hungarians and Finns just fine in RL. Germany isn't ruled by an genocidal dictatorship obsessed with racial purity, it's ruled by a military dictatorship here. Admittedly Germany is still probably the bad guy here.

I'm not about to go to war with Germany, Finland probably won't even leave the Axis unless it gets a lot of support from the Allies, which is unlikely considering it borders the USSR and is in the midst of HappyReichLandTM. What it's looking to do is distance itself as much as possible from Berlin while still ensuring the Germans aide them in the event of RedQuake 2.0.

Well that's reassuring. Also join the HappyReichLandTM! It'll be fun.
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

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Postby Mesrane » Sun May 17, 2015 11:28 pm

Epraria wrote:
Mesrane wrote:I'm not about to go to war with Germany, Finland probably won't even leave the Axis unless it gets a lot of support from the Allies, which is unlikely considering it borders the USSR and is in the midst of HappyReichLandTM. What it's looking to do is distance itself as much as possible from Berlin while still ensuring the Germans aide them in the event of RedQuake 2.0.

Well that's reassuring. Also join the HappyReichLandTM! It'll be fun.

Finland will be the C student who checks your tickets before you get on the ride. Not enjoying working there, but preferring it to mother's basement (Soviet Union). That's about as enthusiastic as Finland will ever get about German hegemony.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon May 18, 2015 12:13 am

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Yeah, Ep created a Germany app.

Also I finally finished compiling a list of all currently existing capital ships in the Royal Navy to sell, including under construction ships. Needless to say I want to sell off quite a few of my 18 carriers.

I'll begin working on crusiers, subs and escorts tomorrow.

Did you say selling your navy?


Yup. I have 18 carriers in service with another 11 under construction. Needless to say I'm trying to sell some off.

Caltarania wrote:
Lunas Legion";p="<a href="tel:24601081">24601081</a> wrote:
Yeah, Ep created a Germany app.

Also I finally finished compiling a list of all currently existing capital ships in the Royal Navy to sell, including under construction ships. Needless to say I want to sell off quite a few of my 18 carriers.

I'll begin working on crusiers, subs and escorts tomorrow.


Comrade Blighty, may I purchase a few carriers?


How many? I'd be willing to sell all 8 of my Colossus-class carriers for... Lemme look up a reasonable price.
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Postby Caltarania » Mon May 18, 2015 1:10 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:Did you say selling your navy?


Yup. I have 18 carriers in service with another 11 under construction. Needless to say I'm trying to sell some off.

Caltarania wrote:
Comrade Blighty, may I purchase a few carriers?


How many? I'd be willing to sell all 8 of my Colossus-class carriers for... Lemme look up a reasonable price.


As many as possible. The Soviet Navy is in need of carriers, for we have none. We'll buy your 8 Colossus-class and any other ships you'd be willing to sell, in exchange for an agreeable price on which both parties benefit.
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Postby The New Lowlands » Mon May 18, 2015 1:12 am

Rhodesia-Botswana wrote:
Epraria wrote:Why would the finns declare war on Das Reich? They are considered true Europeans after all.


Might want to check the DNA makeup of the average Finn from Helsinki m8. I wouldn't consider them "true" Europeans.

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Lunas Legion wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
Comrade Blighty, may I purchase a few carriers?


How many? I'd be willing to sell all 8 of my Colossus-class carriers for... Lemme look up a reasonable price.

>selling carriers to commies

lunas

pls

lunas

stahp

you might as well scrap them for all the good it'll do, rooskies cannot into carrier aircraft

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Postby Caltarania » Mon May 18, 2015 1:16 am

The New Lowlands wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:


How many? I'd be willing to sell all 8 of my Colossus-class carriers for... Lemme look up a reasonable price.

>selling carriers to commies

lunas

pls

lunas

stahp

you might as well scrap them for all the good it'll do, rooskies cannot into carrier aircraft


usa pls

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