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Posted: **Mon May 18, 2015 6:03 pm**

Chedastan wrote:
New Kratopolis wrote:First post is up. Tell me what you think.

I thought it was implied that the man Warren apprehended was a Christian terrorist. Jord might mind that, unless he didn't care to begin with. I guess we should wait for Jord's input. At which I will make my post then.

Well, Richard and the Swords of Solomon are, of course, sellswords, which means they will take contracts from anyone with gold. I had implied that the southerners (Persica) had orchestrated the raid/fire, and my men just carried it out. I wasn't thinking about the Christians, although I could probably change it if Jord so desires it.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2015 6:04 pm**

The Nuclear Fist wrote:Sorry for the multiple posts, but where exactly on the map is Brinehold? I'm trying to figure out exactly where all my troops are positioned.

Sveltlana wrote:
Only while your forces are within the land the Royans consider to be "Royeg"

In any case, you should be proud of yourself. You somehow managed to surprise the garrison of Dalandt and burn a big part of the capital. You also have barbarian allies on the West (you are South, correct?).

Yes, but Angus of Cael wants to become Angus I of the Kingdom of Cael, and cannot reliably do so if he can't bring an amiable end to this conflict. That means bringing enough plunder to bribe enough of his chieftains to support his claim, enough food to keep his people from starving, and enough renown to silence his detractors.

Having enemies at the gates prevents him from doing any of that.

EDIT:

Additionally, where all exactly are my barbarians being engaged? I was hoping to bring the full eighty thousand strong horde against Brinehold if I couldn't get the lord there to agree to my terms, but I also need to know where all the other battles are taking place so I can plan accordingly.

I was in the northern part of Gaellic, but have since left, although perhaps you wouldn't know

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2015 6:04 pm**

Ravea wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Sorry for the multiple posts, but where exactly on the map is Brinehold? I'm trying to figure out exactly where all my troops are positioned.

Yes, but Angus of Cael wants to become Angus I of the Kingdom of Cael, and cannot reliably do so if he can't bring an amiable end to this conflict. That means bringing enough plunder to bribe enough of his chieftains to support his claim, enough food to keep his people from starving, and enough renown to silence his detractors.

Having enemies at the gates prevents him from doing any of that.

EDIT:

Additionally, where all exactly are my barbarians being engaged? I was hoping to bring the full eighty thousand strong horde against Brinehold if I couldn't get the lord there to agree to my terms, but I also need to know where all the other battles are taking place so I can plan accordingly.

I'm not entirely sure how we're going to do battles. I would have no reservations having Brinehold fall, though. Sometimes losing can be fun

Come stay in Tihres with the rest of the Royal Family

We can play twister or something while Rormund and the Twins drive the heathen from the Hinterlands.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2015 6:04 pm**

Valloria wrote:
Ravea wrote:
Barbarian forces are also laying a partial siege on the city of Brinehold, which is well fortified and rich (though not the greatest city in the region in either respect). Could be your forces, could be someone else's. The North has sent some forces to help the city but even with additional men it would be hard pressed to survive a full scale assult.

In the IC, I sent you quite a bit of food and 500 of my best knights.

Just threw up the response to that actually! That's a metric butt ton of food you sent down.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2015 6:05 pm**

Sveltlana wrote:
Ravea wrote:
I'm not entirely sure how we're going to do battles. I would have no reservations having Brinehold fall, though. Sometimes losing can be fun

Come stay in Tihres with the rest of the Royal Family

We can play twister or something while Rormund and the Twins drive the heathen from the Hinterlands.

I'm not sure how good cripples are at twister, but I'm sure Kennick's impressive girth will be an advantage in all contests.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2015 6:06 pm**

The Nuclear Fist wrote:Sorry for the multiple posts, but where exactly on the map is Brinehold? I'm trying to figure out exactly where all my troops are positioned.

Sveltlana wrote:
Only while your forces are within the land the Royans consider to be "Royeg"

In any case, you should be proud of yourself. You somehow managed to surprise the garrison of Dalandt and burn a big part of the capital. You also have barbarian allies on the West (you are South, correct?).

Yes, but Angus of Cael wants to become Angus I of the Kingdom of Cael, and cannot reliably do so if he can't bring an amiable end to this conflict. That means bringing enough plunder to bribe enough of his chieftains to support his claim, enough food to keep his people from starving, and enough renown to silence his detractors.

Having enemies at the gates prevents him from doing any of that.

EDIT:

Additionally, where all exactly are my barbarians being engaged? I was hoping to bring the full eighty thousand strong horde against Brinehold if I couldn't get the lord there to agree to my terms, but I also need to know where all the other battles are taking place so I can plan accordingly.

Wharland is relatively safe from your forces, although you have taken quite a bit of of southern Wharlish territory on the coast and your forces are near Lostock, the second most populated city in all of Brettonia (450,000 people).

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2015 6:09 pm**

Who here wants to meet Mr. Dimitri the II ^^

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2015 6:12 pm**

Ravea wrote:I'm not entirely sure how we're going to do battles. I would have no reservations having Brinehold fall, though. Sometimes losing can be fun

Well Brinehold would probably avoid utter destruction if it managed to work out a deal with Angus. He'd basically just take his ransom, take some of the local nobles as hostages to keep Brinehold's royalty behaving, and then crush a threat somewhere else. If he has to take the city by force, the survivors would be put to the sword, everything of value stolen, and then the city razed to the ground.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2015 6:14 pm**

Ravea wrote:
Sveltlana wrote:
Come stay in Tihres with the rest of the Royal Family

We can play twister or something while Rormund and the Twins drive the heathen from the Hinterlands.

I'm not sure how good cripples are at twister, but I'm sure Kennick's impressive girth will be an advantage in all contests.

The food and forces will come from Lostock, a city quite near Brinehold. It will take two days at the most for the envoy to reach your gates.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2015 6:15 pm**

Valloria wrote:Wharland is relatively safe from your forces, although you have taken quite a bit of of southern Wharlish territory on the coast and your forces are near Lostock, the second most populated city in all of Brettonia (450,000 people).

Lostock will probably get the same deal as Brinehold: Surrender peacefully and pay the ransom or get put to the sword.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2015 6:19 pm**

New Kratopolis wrote:
Chedastan wrote:I thought it was implied that the man Warren apprehended was a Christian terrorist. Jord might mind that, unless he didn't care to begin with. I guess we should wait for Jord's input. At which I will make my post then.

Well, Richard and the Swords of Solomon are, of course, sellswords, which means they will take contracts from anyone with gold. I had implied that the southerners (Persica) had orchestrated the raid/fire, and my men just carried it out. I wasn't thinking about the Christians, although I could probably change it if Jord so desires it.

Well it did seemed to be fueled by religious tensions, unless it's really a red herring, or Jord's character has a unreliable view.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2015 6:23 pm**

Valloria wrote:
Ravea wrote:
I'm not sure how good cripples are at twister, but I'm sure Kennick's impressive girth will be an advantage in all contests.

The food and forces will come from Lostock, a city quite near Brinehold. It will take two days at the most for the envoy to reach your gates.

Ahh, I assumed it was coming from farther north. Lemme edit some stuff.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2015 6:25 pm**

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Valloria wrote:Wharland is relatively safe from your forces, although you have taken quite a bit of of southern Wharlish territory on the coast and your forces are near Lostock, the second most populated city in all of Brettonia (150,000 people).

((A note, I mistyped, the population is actually 150,000.))

Lostock will probably get the same deal as Brinehold: Surrender peacefully and pay the ransom or get put to the sword.

Hastiaka, where Lostock is located, is the wealthiest and most powerful of the duchies of Wharland. It could be a kingdom in its own right. Lostock has walls 15 feet thick made of ironstone, which is basically stone melted down and mixed with melted-down iron to make a stronger fortification. The city has never fallen, well save for that time that a coup was staged and the gates opened for the invaders, but that doesn't really count. It would take six months for your forces to breach the gates, and Lostock is a port city with constant shipments of food from Halia, the breadbasket of the Breadbasket (Wharland). Good luck trying to break a town that is known as the Unbreakable City. But in the end, we'll probably pay the ransom because we don't want land-based trade to take a hit.

Ravea wrote:
Valloria wrote:The food and forces will come from Lostock, a city quite near Brinehold. It will take two days at the most for the envoy to reach your gates.

Ahh, I assumed it was coming from farther north. Lemme edit some stuff.

If you look at the population density map below, Lostock is at the very south of Wharland. And it's a port city, too.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2015 6:30 pm**

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Ravea wrote:I'm not entirely sure how we're going to do battles. I would have no reservations having Brinehold fall, though. Sometimes losing can be fun

Well Brinehold would probably avoid utter destruction if it managed to work out a deal with Angus. He'd basically just take his ransom, take some of the local nobles as hostages to keep Brinehold's royalty behaving, and then crush a threat somewhere else. If he has to take the city by force, the survivors would be put to the sword, everything of value stolen, and then the city razed to the ground.

Kennick might be of two minds on this issue. His people have been slaughtered, his son has been horribly maimed, and a lot of his hold has been burned. He's mighty pissed. He's not dumb though. If he senses that the horde will straight up break the walls open he'd probably try to negotiate.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2015 6:31 pm**

Chedastan wrote:
New Kratopolis wrote:Well, Richard and the Swords of Solomon are, of course, sellswords, which means they will take contracts from anyone with gold. I had implied that the southerners (Persica) had orchestrated the raid/fire, and my men just carried it out. I wasn't thinking about the Christians, although I could probably change it if Jord so desires it.

Well it did seemed to be fueled by religious tensions, unless it's really a red herring, or Jord's character has a unreliable view.

If Jord or Ghondra really wants it to be a Christian contractor that hired Richard, then i shall change it.
However it goes, I look forward to your response.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2015 6:35 pm**

Valloria wrote:
Ravea wrote:
Ahh, I assumed it was coming from farther north. Lemme edit some stuff.

If you look at the population density map below, Lostock is at the very south of Wharland. And it's a port city, too.

Just realized Brinehold was never really established geographically. I thought it might be much farther south along the boarder in the butt end of the kingdom. Two days march is fine with me though

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2015 6:36 pm**

It seems that you broke the thread, Ravea. Oh, dear.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2015 6:38 pm**

Valloria wrote:It seems that you broke the thread, Ravea. Oh, dear.

Fixed it. Never actually done that before...I guess i was using dark bad juju in that post. :lol:

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2015 6:51 pm**

Ravea wrote:
Valloria wrote:It seems that you broke the thread, Ravea. Oh, dear.

Fixed it. Never actually done that before...I guess i was using dark bad juju in that post.

I'm actually replying to your IC post right now. You get a Prince, too. Lucky you

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2015 6:57 pm**

Ravea wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Well Brinehold would probably avoid utter destruction if it managed to work out a deal with Angus. He'd basically just take his ransom, take some of the local nobles as hostages to keep Brinehold's royalty behaving, and then crush a threat somewhere else. If he has to take the city by force, the survivors would be put to the sword, everything of value stolen, and then the city razed to the ground.

Kennick might be of two minds on this issue. His people have been slaughtered, his son has been horribly maimed, and a lot of his hold has been burned. He's mighty pissed. He's not dumb though. If he senses that the horde will straight up break the walls open he'd probably try to negotiate.

Just remember: As bad as it is now, it can always get worse. The ghoulish cannibal barbarians can get really nasty.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2015 7:06 pm**

Ravea wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Well Brinehold would probably avoid utter destruction if it managed to work out a deal with Angus. He'd basically just take his ransom, take some of the local nobles as hostages to keep Brinehold's royalty behaving, and then crush a threat somewhere else. If he has to take the city by force, the survivors would be put to the sword, everything of value stolen, and then the city razed to the ground.

Kennick might be of two minds on this issue. His people have been slaughtered, his son has been horribly maimed, and a lot of his hold has been burned. He's mighty pissed. He's not dumb though. If he senses that the horde will straight up break the walls open he'd probably try to negotiate.

Break the walls, you say?

_{I'm so, so sorry.}

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2015 7:46 pm**

Battles are fought like this: There are two players (Or any number of players really) the belligerents. They plan how the battle is going to be like. Then one of them writes it, with the help of the other belligerent and post it as one big post.

Posted: **Mon May 18, 2015 7:57 pm**

Ghondra wrote:Battles are fought like this: There are two players (Or any number of players really) the belligerents. They plan how the battle is going to be like. Then one of them writes it, with the help of the other belligerent and post it as one big post.

I would add that, for battles that the players can't agree on, the belligerents lay out their battle plans/relevant info and the community takes a vote based. At the least a third party could help resolve disputes.

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 5:49 am**

Christ on a bike Ched, I knew the poor soul had been tortured, but a quick slash of a sword would have been enough. Now someone's gonna have to clean out all the blood in the wall.

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 6:15 am**

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Ghondra wrote:Battles are fought like this: There are two players (Or any number of players really) the belligerents. They plan how the battle is going to be like. Then one of them writes it, with the help of the other belligerent and post it as one big post.

I would add that, for battles that the players can't agree on, the belligerents lay out their battle plans/relevant info and the community takes a vote based. At the least a third party could help resolve disputes.

I'd like to get going on our Battle at Brinehold. There's 5,000 infantrymen guarding 500 mounted knights (of high skill) and one million bushels of various food items. There's maybe 15,000-20,000 people within Brinehold, considering the number of peasants and soldiers. How many barbarians are nearby (in raided villages, attacking the walls, etc.)? Keep in mind, 1 infantrymen is worth about 2-3 barbarians in single combat skill, and the mounted knights are worth 10-20. But they'll have to continue to escort the food, so they'll be at a slight disadvantage there. The battle should be short and relatively uneventful, as we'll arrive in the middle of the night and drop off the food quietly, then the infantrymen will return to Wharland. The knights will remain.

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