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Postby New Kratopolis » Tue May 19, 2015 6:24 am

Question for Ghondra. Is this the age where cannons started to come into play, or are we still in the catapult/trebuchet era?
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Postby Ghondra » Tue May 19, 2015 6:42 am

New Kratopolis wrote:Question for Ghondra. Is this the age where cannons started to come into play, or are we still in the catapult/trebuchet era?

Extremely limited deployment, only Victoria and Wharland has one, they're gigantic, impractical and not very powerful. Catapults and Trebuchets are far more common.
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Postby Ghondra » Tue May 19, 2015 6:44 am

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The Nuclear Fist wrote:I would add that, for battles that the players can't agree on, the belligerents lay out their battle plans/relevant info and the community takes a vote based. At the least a third party could help resolve disputes.

I'd like to get going on our Battle at Brinehold. There's 5,000 infantrymen guarding 500 mounted knights (of high skill) and one million bushels of various food items. There's maybe 15,000-20,000 people within Brinehold, considering the number of peasants and soldiers. How many barbarians are nearby (in raided villages, attacking the walls, etc.)? Keep in mind, 1 infantrymen is worth about 2-3 barbarians in single combat skill, and the mounted knights are worth 10-20. But they'll have to continue to escort the food, so they'll be at a slight disadvantage there. The battle should be short and relatively uneventful, as we'll arrive in the middle of the night and drop off the food quietly, then the infantrymen will return to Wharland. The knights will remain.

Vall, quantity is a quality in its own right (can't believe I just quoted Stalin) your soldiers can very easily be swarmed.
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Postby Skaixeque » Tue May 19, 2015 6:46 am

So which king would like to hire the assassin/spy character of mine?

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Postby New Kratopolis » Tue May 19, 2015 6:57 am

Skaixeque wrote:So which king would like to hire the assassin/spy character of mine?

Perhaps you could be an agent for the Swords, eh? :?:
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Postby Das Germane imperie » Tue May 19, 2015 7:34 am

Skaixeque wrote:So which king would like to hire the assassin/spy character of mine?


The knightly order of the son's swords would pay you well.

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Postby Ghondra » Tue May 19, 2015 8:10 am

Skaixeque wrote:So which king would like to hire the assassin/spy character of mine?

Perhaps you should make an app first -_-
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Postby Valloria » Tue May 19, 2015 8:27 am

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Valloria wrote:I'd like to get going on our Battle at Brinehold. There's 5,000 infantrymen guarding 500 mounted knights (of high skill) and one million bushels of various food items. There's maybe 15,000-20,000 people within Brinehold, considering the number of peasants and soldiers. How many barbarians are nearby (in raided villages, attacking the walls, etc.)? Keep in mind, 1 infantrymen is worth about 2-3 barbarians in single combat skill, and the mounted knights are worth 10-20. But they'll have to continue to escort the food, so they'll be at a slight disadvantage there. The battle should be short and relatively uneventful, as we'll arrive in the middle of the night and drop off the food quietly, then the infantrymen will return to Wharland. The knights will remain.

Vall, quantity is a quality in its own right (can't believe I just quoted Stalin) your soldiers can very easily be swarmed.

It would be very difficult for them to be swarmed, think Boudicca vs. Romans. They'd be taking the High Road to Brinehold, which gives them an elevation advantage. The barbarians have what, 20,000 troops? 30,000? We arrive in the middle of the night, so maybe half those numbers are awake for the beginning of the battle, and all the troops are there for is to escort the others, so once the gates are closed behind all of our stuff, the troops will flee. No-one wants to chase after those troops all the way to Wharland. And if the barbarians do, three thousand riders will meet them in open combat, along with whatever remains of the 5000 infantrymen.
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Postby New Kratopolis » Tue May 19, 2015 8:43 am

Valloria wrote:
Ghondra wrote:Vall, quantity is a quality in its own right (can't believe I just quoted Stalin) your soldiers can very easily be swarmed.

It would be very difficult for them to be swarmed, think Boudicca vs. Romans. They'd be taking the High Road to Brinehold, which gives them an elevation advantage. The barbarians have what, 20,000 troops? 30,000? We arrive in the middle of the night, so maybe half those numbers are awake for the beginning of the battle, and all the troops are there for is to escort the others, so once the gates are closed behind all of our stuff, the troops will flee. No-one wants to chase after those troops all the way to Wharland. And if the barbarians do, three thousand riders will meet them in open combat, along with whatever remains of the 5000 infantrymen.

If we're still talking numbers, I thought that someone could hire a regiment of my men to help defend the city.
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Postby Sveltlana » Tue May 19, 2015 8:44 am

Valloria wrote:
Ghondra wrote:Vall, quantity is a quality in its own right (can't believe I just quoted Stalin) your soldiers can very easily be swarmed.

It would be very difficult for them to be swarmed, think Boudicca vs. Romans. They'd be taking the High Road to Brinehold, which gives them an elevation advantage. The barbarians have what, 20,000 troops? 30,000? We arrive in the middle of the night, so maybe half those numbers are awake for the beginning of the battle, and all the troops are there for is to escort the others, so once the gates are closed behind all of our stuff, the troops will flee. No-one wants to chase after those troops all the way to Wharland. And if the barbarians do, three thousand riders will meet them in open combat, along with whatever remains of the 5000 infantrymen.


So, what? Are Edvard and Allister meeting?
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Postby Ghondra » Tue May 19, 2015 8:46 am

Vall, I'm actually planning for Alistair (The younger) and Arthur to meet, just to see how they interact with one another. The problem is, I don't have a context for their meeting. Ideas?
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Postby Sveltlana » Tue May 19, 2015 8:52 am

Ghondra wrote:Vall, I'm actually planning for Alistair (The younger) and Arthur to meet, just to see how they interact with one another. The problem is, I don't have a context for their meeting. Ideas?


Ghondra, let's have Edvard and Arthur meet.

That's why I threw him into the castle in the first place.
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Postby Ghondra » Tue May 19, 2015 8:58 am

Sveltlana wrote:
Ghondra wrote:Vall, I'm actually planning for Alistair (The younger) and Arthur to meet, just to see how they interact with one another. The problem is, I don't have a context for their meeting. Ideas?


Ghondra, let's have Edvard and Arthur meet.

That's why I threw him into the castle in the first place.

Does Eddard Edvard have any ambitions to be King?
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Postby Sveltlana » Tue May 19, 2015 9:10 am

Ghondra wrote:
Sveltlana wrote:
Ghondra, let's have Edvard and Arthur meet.

That's why I threw him into the castle in the first place.

Does Eddard Edvard have any ambitions to be King?


noep

Tho he does have ambitions to vote for a King who'll strike at the barbarians first and foremost.
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Postby Ghondra » Tue May 19, 2015 9:21 am

Sveltlana wrote:
Ghondra wrote:Does Eddard Edvard have any ambitions to be King?


noep

Tho he does have ambitions to vote for a King who'll strike at the barbarians first and foremost.

Arthur's angry, as in he's fucking pissed. He'll direct his rage at anyone, including the Barbarians. He'll strike them with the power of the North. Plus he's Edvard's cousin, won't familial ties be honored?
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Postby New Kratopolis » Tue May 19, 2015 9:38 am

Ghondra wrote:
Sveltlana wrote:
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Tho he does have ambitions to vote for a King who'll strike at the barbarians first and foremost.

Arthur's angry, as in he's fucking pissed. He'll direct his rage at anyone, including the Barbarians. He'll strike them with the power of the North. Plus he's Edvard's cousin, won't familial ties be honored?

Since I implied that Richard's agents started the fire, if you want Richard and Arthur to interact we can somehow.
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Postby Ravea » Tue May 19, 2015 9:45 am

Valloria wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:I would add that, for battles that the players can't agree on, the belligerents lay out their battle plans/relevant info and the community takes a vote based. At the least a third party could help resolve disputes.

I'd like to get going on our Battle at Brinehold. There's 5,000 infantrymen guarding 500 mounted knights (of high skill) and one million bushels of various food items. There's maybe 15,000-20,000 people within Brinehold, considering the number of peasants and soldiers. How many barbarians are nearby (in raided villages, attacking the walls, etc.)? Keep in mind, 1 infantrymen is worth about 2-3 barbarians in single combat skill, and the mounted knights are worth 10-20. But they'll have to continue to escort the food, so they'll be at a slight disadvantage there. The battle should be short and relatively uneventful, as we'll arrive in the middle of the night and drop off the food quietly, then the infantrymen will return to Wharland. The knights will remain.[/quote

Sorry for the delay, had some stuff to do last night. So some considerations for Brinehold; the area immediately surrounding the city for a couple of miles is full of swamps and marshes, which makes it a great place to be ambushed. Not a ton of area to maneuver off the main roads. It's currently being patrolled by siltstrider rangers but they are stretched very thin from fighting barbarian incursions, and are patrolling the swamps in groups of 20 to 30. I'm sure the barbarians will notice a great big supply caravan marching straight for the city and will start trying to pick off men going back and forth through the roads. If the Whalish make it inside with at least most of the supplies, the Caelish might want to try to attack at the following dawn or beforehand while the city is still relatively weakened by starvation and disease. That's up to The Nuclear Fist, of course.
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Postby Skaixeque » Tue May 19, 2015 10:05 am

Ghondra wrote:
Skaixeque wrote:So which king would like to hire the assassin/spy character of mine?

Perhaps you should make an app first -_-

I did and I was accepted thank you.

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Postby Skaixeque » Tue May 19, 2015 10:07 am

New Kratopolis wrote:
Skaixeque wrote:So which king would like to hire the assassin/spy character of mine?

Perhaps you could be an agent for the Swords, eh? :?:

Just have to find him first he's posing as a servant :p

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Skaixeque wrote:So which king would like to hire the assassin/spy character of mine?


The knightly order of the son's swords would pay you well.


Same to you lol

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Postby New Kratopolis » Tue May 19, 2015 10:31 am

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New Kratopolis wrote:Perhaps you could be an agent for the Swords, eh? :?:

Just have to find him first he's posing as a servant :p

:eyebrow:

Is that a challenge?
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Postby Skaixeque » Tue May 19, 2015 10:33 am

New Kratopolis wrote:
Skaixeque wrote:Just have to find him first he's posing as a servant :p

:eyebrow:

Is that a challenge?

kinda lol

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Postby Ravea » Tue May 19, 2015 10:39 am

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Here's the best map I could pull for a Brinewall representation. The only real difference is that there isn't a complete moat around the city, just the river at its back. The farmland between the outer and inner walls would be covered in pitch and set aflame in the event that an invader pierced the first wall, but that would risk burning the whole city down, not to mention destroy the only way Brinewall has to make its own food.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Tue May 19, 2015 11:08 am

There's no reason to suggest that a single knight was worth twenty barbarians. Barbarians weren't trained soldiers yes, but they weren't that bad.

There are about forty thousand barbarians near Brinehold, led by Angus the Cael. Angus is wanting to end the siege of Brinehold as quickly and bloodlessly as possible, so he can move against other fronts. A few dozen warbands are being sent to flush any enemies out of the swamps and act as a scouting force for enemy units and supply caravans. The main force, under Angus, is has massed and is about five hours' ride from Brinehold proper, having spent the better part of several weeks raping and pillaging the countryside for supplies and loot.

A force of five thousand cavalry will be traveling ahead of the main warband to scout ahead and destroy any supply caravans and isolated enemy units. The warband will arrive in full force with about three thousand peasants taken captive and marched in front of the warband. Angus will send a messenger to deliver his terms. If they aren't met, the peasants will be slaughtered in front of the gates. Alongside Angus are two small catapults, which will be used to fling to corpses and rocks over the wall. Once the slaughtering has been done, the assault will begin.
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Postby Sveltlana » Tue May 19, 2015 11:14 am

Good luck, Brinehold!

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Tue May 19, 2015 11:31 am

Sveltlana wrote:Good luck, Brinehold!

-Rormund Tullestedt

All they have to do is open the gates and kneel before Angus if they want to avoid the worst atrocities.
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