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Benian Republic wrote:Yeah I'm very pro-Tibetan resistance and pro-Chechen resistance. And I don't believe in the Indian class system so yes.


And the gypsies? Should they be allowed free movement across Europe?

If they don't steal from people they should.
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Postby Benian Republic » Thu May 14, 2015 6:18 am

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Benian Republic wrote:Yeah I'm very pro-Tibetan resistance and pro-Chechen resistance. And I don't believe in the Indian class system so yes.


And the gypsies? Should they be allowed free movement across Europe?

To an extent, as long as they don't mess with private property.
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Postby Claven » Thu May 14, 2015 6:20 am

So you dont think the jews belong in the Middle East?
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Postby Benian Republic » Thu May 14, 2015 6:25 am

Claven wrote:So you dont think the jews belong in the Middle East?

I don't think that the Zionists should be in the Middle East since the "Israelis" are European not middle eastern and quite enjoy to commit atrocities upon those whom were already there.
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Postby The Greater Gambia » Thu May 14, 2015 6:34 am

Yo, Canada guy, want to have a diplomatic incident. Maybe have a Canadian in the Gambia get arrested for being gay in the Gambia?
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Postby The Greater Gambia » Thu May 14, 2015 6:37 am

Anyone?
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Postby Benian Republic » Thu May 14, 2015 6:40 am

The Greater Gambia wrote:Anyone?

I would like to but I need to finish my app.
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Postby Claven » Thu May 14, 2015 6:42 am

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Claven wrote:So you dont think the jews belong in the Middle East?

I don't think that the Zionists should be in the Middle East since the "Israelis" are European not middle eastern and quite enjoy to commit atrocities upon those whom were already there.


The mizrahi jews? They've never left the middle east, but after the creation of Israel, most arab nations forced them out either way.
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Postby Benian Republic » Thu May 14, 2015 6:47 am

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Benian Republic wrote:I don't think that the Zionists should be in the Middle East since the "Israelis" are European not middle eastern and quite enjoy to commit atrocities upon those whom were already there.


The mizrahi jews? They've never left the middle east, but after the creation of Israel, most arab nations forced them out either way.

And? Yeah if I was an Arab leader seeing what was happening to my fellow Arabs of course I would retaliate against a people like them.
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Postby Claven » Thu May 14, 2015 6:51 am

Benian Republic wrote:
Claven wrote:
The mizrahi jews? They've never left the middle east, but after the creation of Israel, most arab nations forced them out either way.

And? Yeah if I was an Arab leader seeing what was happening to my fellow Arabs of course I would retaliate against a people like them.


But the fact is that it was not the mizrahi Jews that crated the state of Israel. Nor were they strongly associated with Zionism. The persecution of Jews in Arab lands is what drew them towards Israel and Zionism in the first place
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Postby Benian Republic » Thu May 14, 2015 6:54 am

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Benian Republic wrote:And? Yeah if I was an Arab leader seeing what was happening to my fellow Arabs of course I would retaliate against a people like them.


But the fact is that it was not the mizrahi Jews that crated the state of Israel. Nor were they strongly associated with Zionism. The persecution of Jews in Arab lands is what drew them towards Israel and Zionism in the first place

Yes but Israel persecuted the Palestinians as a whole, and arbs nations not wanting to go to war did what they could to spit back at Israel.
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Postby Claven » Thu May 14, 2015 7:01 am

Benian Republic wrote:
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But the fact is that it was not the mizrahi Jews that crated the state of Israel. Nor were they strongly associated with Zionism. The persecution of Jews in Arab lands is what drew them towards Israel and Zionism in the first place

Yes but Israel persecuted the Palestinians as a whole, and arbs nations not wanting to go to war did what they could to spit back at Israel.


By attacking innocent people who had little if anything to do with events taking place in Israel at the time? By denying them the right to live in he homes of their ancestors, to live in their ancestral lands? Thats like saying because that guy hit my sister, I'm gonna hit his mother.
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Postby Licata » Thu May 14, 2015 7:06 am

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Benian Republic wrote:I don't hate Jews I only hate zionists.


So, you hate jews who want a homeland


Who want to *take* a homeland.
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Postby Claven » Thu May 14, 2015 7:10 am

Licata wrote:
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So, you hate jews who want a homeland


Who want to *take* a homeland.


Like the every country on the American continent was formed. Or Australia and New Zealand? I'm not saying what they're doing is right. But the fact is that people have been persecuting Jew even before the state of Israel was formed
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Postby Licata » Thu May 14, 2015 7:11 am

Claven wrote:
Benian Republic wrote:Yeah I'm very pro-Tibetan resistance and pro-Chechen resistance. And I don't believe in the Indian class system so yes.


And the gypsies? Should they be allowed free movement across Europe?


The Gypsies should be given a safety area, in which they can travel in a nomadic fashion, freely.

Tibet should be freed.

The Chechen's should be free, or at least not be put under pressure from Russia. Alas, Putin is in power...

India's class system is a cultural thing, I'm not for destroying cultural ideals, however it should be abolished and left to memory.

The Tartar's should be given enough land and material to live properly.
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Postby Licata » Thu May 14, 2015 7:13 am

Claven wrote:
Licata wrote:
Who want to *take* a homeland.


Like the every country on the American continent was formed. Or Australia and New Zealand? I'm not saying what they're doing is right. But the fact is that people have been persecuting Jew even before the state of Israel was formed


Wasn't it just after the Jews were "freed" from the Egyptians, that they raided, raped, and pillaged their way to Israel?

The persecution of the Jews has been long lasting, but does this give them the right to inflict the suffering they've experienced on others?
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Postby Claven » Thu May 14, 2015 7:15 am

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And the gypsies? Should they be allowed free movement across Europe?


The Gypsies should be given a safety area, in which they can travel in a nomadic fashion, freely.

Tibet should be freed.

The Chechen's should be free, or at least not be put under pressure from Russia. Alas, Putin is in power...

India's class system is a cultural thing, I'm not for destroying cultural ideals, however it should be abolished and left to memory.

The Tartar's should be given enough land and material to live properly.


I only disagree with the first statement. Who's gonna be forced to give up that land? Are European governments gonna have to pay for it. What if the gypsies get ill? Where are they gonna get modern treatment?
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Postby Licata » Thu May 14, 2015 7:18 am

Claven wrote:
Licata wrote:
The Gypsies should be given a safety area, in which they can travel in a nomadic fashion, freely.

Tibet should be freed.

The Chechen's should be free, or at least not be put under pressure from Russia. Alas, Putin is in power...

India's class system is a cultural thing, I'm not for destroying cultural ideals, however it should be abolished and left to memory.

The Tartar's should be given enough land and material to live properly.


I only disagree with the first statement. Who's gonna be forced to give up that land? Are European governments gonna have to pay for it. What if the gypsies get ill? Where are they gonna get modern treatment?


I didn't say give them a state, they should be allowed to move around without persecution if they so wish. More than likely they'll be citizens of some nation, so they will be applicable to their state's health system.
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Postby Claven » Thu May 14, 2015 7:18 am

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Like the every country on the American continent was formed. Or Australia and New Zealand? I'm not saying what they're doing is right. But the fact is that people have been persecuting Jew even before the state of Israel was formed


Wasn't it just after the Jews were "freed" from the Egyptians, that they raided, raped, and pillaged their way to Israel?

The persecution of the Jews has been long lasting, but does this give them the right to inflict the suffering they've experienced on others?


If we were to actually believe that, then we should also believe that 'God' killed the firstborn of Egypt and turned water into wine and walked on water.

Like I said, i don't support Israelis actions. But I don't believe people when they say that they are against Jews because of Israel.
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Postby Licata » Thu May 14, 2015 7:19 am

Claven wrote:
Licata wrote:
Wasn't it just after the Jews were "freed" from the Egyptians, that they raided, raped, and pillaged their way to Israel?

The persecution of the Jews has been long lasting, but does this give them the right to inflict the suffering they've experienced on others?


If we were to actually believe that, then we should also believe that 'God' killed the firstborn of Egypt and turned water into wine and walked on water.

Like I said, i don't support Israelis actions. But I don't believe people when they say that they are against Jews because of Israel.


I'm against Israel, not Jews...
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Postby Claven » Thu May 14, 2015 7:20 am

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I only disagree with the first statement. Who's gonna be forced to give up that land? Are European governments gonna have to pay for it. What if the gypsies get ill? Where are they gonna get modern treatment?


I didn't say give them a state, they should be allowed to move around without persecution if they so wish. More than likely they'll be citizens of some nation, so they will be applicable to their state's health system.


You said a safety area? In the densest continent in the world?
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Postby Licata » Thu May 14, 2015 7:22 am

Claven wrote:
Licata wrote:
I didn't say give them a state, they should be allowed to move around without persecution if they so wish. More than likely they'll be citizens of some nation, so they will be applicable to their state's health system.


You said a safety area? In the densest continent in the world?


They have fields....
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Postby Claven » Thu May 14, 2015 7:22 am

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Claven wrote:
If we were to actually believe that, then we should also believe that 'God' killed the firstborn of Egypt and turned water into wine and walked on water.

Like I said, i don't support Israelis actions. But I don't believe people when they say that they are against Jews because of Israel.


I'm against Israel, not Jews...


Yet you brought up alleged Jewish atrocities from the bible?
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Postby Licata » Thu May 14, 2015 7:24 am

Claven wrote:
Licata wrote:
I'm against Israel, not Jews...


Yet you brought up alleged Jewish atrocities from the bible?


The Jews don't allegedly have a clean slate.
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Postby Claven » Thu May 14, 2015 7:24 am

Licata wrote:
Claven wrote:
You said a safety area? In the densest continent in the world?


They have fields....


At a time when people need social housing more than ever? When gree zones are being threatened? I have nothing against the gypsies as a people? But shouldn't they at least just settle down at one area
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