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Claven
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Postby Claven » Mon May 11, 2015 7:47 pm

Terrelis wrote:
Sacara wrote:Can someone talk in the Senate :\

Well we could actually get started on legislation if you voted, your vote may be the deciding vote if you choose the right option.


Way to be subtle
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Icrum
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Postby Icrum » Mon May 11, 2015 7:49 pm

Claven wrote:
Icrum wrote:I'm sure they'd rather pay for a operation than high taxes yearly.


Right, so they would thousands if not hundreds of thousands for surgery. Where I'm from, people who make less than $200,000 a year only pay 1% of that to enjoy free healthcare

If it's good Healthcare by good people, it will not cost as much.
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Sacara
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Postby Sacara » Mon May 11, 2015 7:50 pm

Terrelis wrote:
Sacara wrote:Can someone talk in the Senate :\

Well we could actually get started on legislation if you voted, your vote may be the deciding vote if you choose the right option.

There is no "right" option. Hmm...
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Claven
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Postby Claven » Mon May 11, 2015 7:52 pm

Icrum wrote:If it's good Healthcare by good people, it will not cost as much.


What if the injured person is poor, homeless, or unemployed? Especially when theres an economic crisis. Should we just look the other way while they suffer? And how many people in the healthcare industry is good, and not motivated by wealth?
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Republic of the Cristo
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Mon May 11, 2015 7:52 pm

Neo-Chicago wrote:
Kazarogkai wrote:
Assassination of the president? That is all I can think of.

Perhaps a certain rebel group would beg to differ. (AGAIN, HINT HINT)


You assume that just because we are rebels ( we prefer the term utopians or avengers even) we would look to such short term goals as killing the President? I am shocked and mortified. We will kill the president... eventually, but our end game plans are FAR grander.

Also, I think your guys' characters overreacted a bit when the lights went out. You all immedieantly thought it was a terrorist attack. ARE YOU ALL THAT PARANOID?! What do you usually think when the lights go out?
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Sacara
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Postby Sacara » Mon May 11, 2015 7:58 pm

Republic of the Cristo wrote:PARANOID?! What do you usually think when the lights go out?

Obama.
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Neo-Chicago
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Postby Neo-Chicago » Mon May 11, 2015 7:58 pm

Well, see you guys tomorrow afternoon. You all know the drill.
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Marsisian
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Postby Marsisian » Mon May 11, 2015 7:59 pm

Icrum wrote:
Landenburg wrote:I don't know if the current voting system is all that fair really.

Senator: John Highshore - [PP]
Senator: Xavier J. T. King - [PP]
Senator: Sofia Church - [PP]
Senator: Dakota Douglas - [P]
Senator: Pierre-Antoine Jean-Baptiste Chauveau - [L]
Senator: Cedric Peeters - [JS]

Just looking, they already control 50% of the human controlled Senate. So unless the rest of the senate gets factored in, they pretty much win as is. The best I can do is hope for a tie at this point and I don't know if any of the others are going to be getting around to the vote.

I'm going to run for Leader of the Armed Forces.

Quite unlikely.
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Sacara
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Postby Sacara » Mon May 11, 2015 8:05 pm

I voted. Sadly.
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Kazarogkai
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Moralistic Democracy

Postby Kazarogkai » Mon May 11, 2015 8:11 pm

Sacara wrote:
Kazarogkai wrote:
Some may lump us into the Right-Wing camp, though in practice we are Radical centrist in terms of economics mind you. The establishment of a single payer healthcare system as the first step towards the creation of a universal healthcare system is at the corner of are policy. For the time being as the Healthcare industry continues to grow we want to keep it private to encourage said growth. We simply want to make it so that all citizens are covered and will be entitled to free and good quality healthcare and freedom from the fear of the ravages of both injury, disability, and time.

At the same time, high taxes will drive people away... How do you suppose we handle taxes?


One of the very reasons we have a single payer system, it would ultimately be cheaper than having a full scale public national healthcare system. The USA despite its utter lack of a universal healthcare system in reality spends more money on their system than many other countries who do have a system like the one I am proposing. In actuality we would in the end be saving money by implementing this system.

In general my party is rather Keynesian mind you as such we are not exactly shy towards running a deficit for a while. We would for the most part propose having for the time being low taxes and increasing government spending. Both these combined will have the duel effect of raising economic growth and lowering unemployment which would correspondingly result in higher overall revenue which would make up the difference eventually.
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Kazarogkai
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Postby Kazarogkai » Mon May 11, 2015 8:14 pm

Icrum wrote:
Claven wrote:
I'm sure immigrants wouldn't mind paying more if they didn't need to pay for insurance or medical costs

I'm sure they'd rather pay for a operation than high taxes yearly.


A single payer healthcare system would actually also help businesses for it would make it so that said businesses would not have to provide health benefits to employees therefore taking care of one of their many costs and actually helping them out a little, this is especially true of small businesses(which mind you are some of my parties many supporters).
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Sacara
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Postby Sacara » Mon May 11, 2015 8:16 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:In general my party is rather Keynesian mind you as such we are not exactly shy towards running a deficit for a while.

And I am. I will NOT allow a deficit, only if needed, and that will be for the military, if we even need it. Only loans from the IMF.
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Benian Republic
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Postby Benian Republic » Mon May 11, 2015 8:16 pm

Benian Republic wrote:Shortened Name/Nickname: National party
Official Name: National Revival Party
Leader: Aedan MacNumara
History: First starting in the early days of the new nation the national party was a loose group of former soldiers and military figures whom did not wish for their new homeland to end up a socialist back water like many nations around the world were soon becoming. They new the only way to stop this from happening was to strike fast and hard against socialists and communists alike with the use of weapons and threats, of course none of this could actually be traced back to the organization, none of it could it was always a lone deranged gunman whom attacked members of the left. Although none of the members would openly say it they were ready to launch a coup at any moment they wanted, they had both the manpower and the arms it all depends upon whether or not the military sides with them.
Emblem:
Main Political Beliefs: Strong nationalism shall inserted into Both the public and school life of budding children, More civilian involvement with the military and more authoritarian leadership.
Compass: Far right
Other Information: We aren't above resorting to armed violence against those whom stand in our way.
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Kazarogkai
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Postby Kazarogkai » Mon May 11, 2015 8:19 pm

Claven wrote:
Icrum wrote:I'm sure they'd rather pay for a operation than high taxes yearly.


Right, so they would thousands if not hundreds of thousands for surgery. Where I'm from, people who make less than $200,000 a year only pay 1% of that to enjoy free healthcare


Exactly, in a single payer healthcare system the government would directly negotiate on the behalf of the citizens on the prices of services which has been proven to effectively lower costs for said services. Hence why countries with said system don't pay nearly as much as the USA does for the same products.
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Claven
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Postby Claven » Mon May 11, 2015 8:21 pm

Sacara wrote:
Kazarogkai wrote:In general my party is rather Keynesian mind you as such we are not exactly shy towards running a deficit for a while.

And I am. I will NOT allow a deficit, only if needed, and that will be for the military, if we even need it. Only loans from the IMF.


So you would provide money to the military to protect the safety of citizens during war, but not for healthcare during peace?
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Their promiscuity? Scary.
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Marsisian
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Founded: Aug 22, 2013
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Postby Marsisian » Mon May 11, 2015 8:21 pm

Benian Republic wrote:
Benian Republic wrote:Shortened Name/Nickname: National party
Official Name: National Revival Party
Leader: Aedan MacNumara
History: First starting in the early days of the new nation the national party was a loose group of former soldiers and military figures whom did not wish for their new homeland to end up a socialist back water like many nations around the world were soon becoming. They new the only way to stop this from happening was to strike fast and hard against socialists and communists alike with the use of weapons and threats, of course none of this could actually be traced back to the organization, none of it could it was always a lone deranged gunman whom attacked members of the left. Although none of the members would openly say it they were ready to launch a coup at any moment they wanted, they had both the manpower and the arms it all depends upon whether or not the military sides with them.
Emblem:
Main Political Beliefs: Strong nationalism shall inserted into Both the public and school life of budding children, More civilian involvement with the military and more authoritarian leadership.
Compass: Far right
Other Information: We aren't above resorting to armed violence against those whom stand in our way.
213 (So I can find applications easily.)
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I'm not siding with you.
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Claven
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Postby Claven » Mon May 11, 2015 8:24 pm

Benian Republic wrote:
Benian Republic wrote:Shortened Name/Nickname: National party
Official Name: National Revival Party
Leader: Aedan MacNumara
History: First starting in the early days of the new nation the national party was a loose group of former soldiers and military figures whom did not wish for their new homeland to end up a socialist back water like many nations around the world were soon becoming. They new the only way to stop this from happening was to strike fast and hard against socialists and communists alike with the use of weapons and threats, of course none of this could actually be traced back to the organization, none of it could it was always a lone deranged gunman whom attacked members of the left. Although none of the members would openly say it they were ready to launch a coup at any moment they wanted, they had both the manpower and the arms it all depends upon whether or not the military sides with them.
Emblem:
Main Political Beliefs: Strong nationalism shall inserted into Both the public and school life of budding children, More civilian involvement with the military and more authoritarian leadership.
Compass: Far right
Other Information: We aren't above resorting to armed violence against those whom stand in our way.
213 (So I can find applications easily.)
WIP


So, essentially the fascist party?
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Kazarogkai
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Founded: Jan 27, 2012
Moralistic Democracy

Postby Kazarogkai » Mon May 11, 2015 8:25 pm

Benian Republic wrote:
Benian Republic wrote:Shortened Name/Nickname: National party
Official Name: National Revival Party
Leader: Aedan MacNumara
History: First starting in the early days of the new nation the national party was a loose group of former soldiers and military figures whom did not wish for their new homeland to end up a socialist back water like many nations around the world were soon becoming. They new the only way to stop this from happening was to strike fast and hard against socialists and communists alike with the use of weapons and threats, of course none of this could actually be traced back to the organization, none of it could it was always a lone deranged gunman whom attacked members of the left. Although none of the members would openly say it they were ready to launch a coup at any moment they wanted, they had both the manpower and the arms it all depends upon whether or not the military sides with them.
Emblem:
Main Political Beliefs: Strong nationalism shall inserted into Both the public and school life of budding children, More civilian involvement with the military and more authoritarian leadership.
Compass: Far right
Other Information: We aren't above resorting to armed violence against those whom stand in our way.
213 (So I can find applications easily.)
WIP


I see, little punk like you thinking you can play with the big boys ehh? Let us see how well you last. Remember this though, you walk into are neighborhoods don't be surprised if a stray bullet or two comes your way and there is no one around to testify on your behalf for you. Watch yourself because we gonna be doing exactly that. :twisted:
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Postby Benian Republic » Mon May 11, 2015 8:26 pm

Claven wrote:
Benian Republic wrote:


So, essentially the fascist party?

Essentially but I cant say that because most people assume fascism and Nazism are the same.
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Postby Benian Republic » Mon May 11, 2015 8:26 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Benian Republic wrote:

I'm not siding with you.

Aww why not I thought we were cool?
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Postby Benian Republic » Mon May 11, 2015 8:27 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:
Benian Republic wrote:


I see, little punk like you thinking you can play with the big boys ehh? Let us see how well you last. Remember this though, you walk into are neighborhoods don't be surprised if a stray bullet or two comes your way and there is no one around to testify on your behalf for you. Watch yourself because we gonna be doing exactly that. :twisted:

Are you socialists? :shock:
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Postby Marsisian » Mon May 11, 2015 8:28 pm

Benian Republic wrote:
Marsisian wrote:I'm not siding with you.

Aww why not I thought we were cool?

We're not going to let our nation be ruled by a bunch of Fascist knock-offs.
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Postby Benian Republic » Mon May 11, 2015 8:31 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Benian Republic wrote:Aww why not I thought we were cool?

We're not going to let our nation be ruled by a bunch of Fascist knock-offs.

We aren't fascist knock off were the real things, BTW what party are you?
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Claven
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Postby Claven » Mon May 11, 2015 8:31 pm

Benian Republic wrote:
Claven wrote:
So, essentially the fascist party?

Essentially but I cant say that because most people assume fascism and Nazism are the same.


Well if you get the power, there'll be no difference
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Their promiscuity? Scary.
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Postby Marsisian » Mon May 11, 2015 8:32 pm

Benian Republic wrote:
Marsisian wrote:We're not going to let our nation be ruled by a bunch of Fascist knock-offs.

We aren't fascist knock off were the real things, BTW what party are you?

I'm not a party, I am the military.
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