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Kazarogkai
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Moralistic Democracy

Postby Kazarogkai » Tue May 19, 2015 5:14 pm

Neo-Chicago wrote:
Republic of the Cristo wrote:
I about helped them remember? That sniper was intended originally to start a revolution to avenge the martyrs. Since RP is essentially dead. Anyone want to hear what operation Ragnorrok intended to do?

RP is not essentially dead, Terrelis is back, everyone but Benian is still here, and the new IC is coming shortly. You're seriously overreacting.

Terrelis wrote:That's the type of intolerant bs we don't need in this RP or any RP for that matter. If communist were fairly elected then that's what the people wanted and it should be respected. I would be against a communist government too but a coup wouldn't be the answer.

Correction: A coup wouldn't be the answer until they broke the constitution.


Or they really pissed me off.
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Marsisian
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Postby Marsisian » Tue May 19, 2015 5:15 pm

I really want to outlaw every non-military or non-police militia now. Including those which belong to political parties.
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Marsisian
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Postby Marsisian » Tue May 19, 2015 5:15 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:
Neo-Chicago wrote:RP is not essentially dead, Terrelis is back, everyone but Benian is still here, and the new IC is coming shortly. You're seriously overreacting.


Correction: A coup wouldn't be the answer until they broke the constitution.


Or they really pissed me off.

It wouldn't be the right thing to do, but it would be in our eyes.
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Neo-Chicago
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Postby Neo-Chicago » Tue May 19, 2015 5:15 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:
Neo-Chicago wrote:I agree, but he actually apologized for what he did, unlike Benian. Anyway, I realized you were the other top candidate for Co-OP, and I'm probably going to give it to you once I find that I need another one, which I expect will be pretty soon, since there are actually times when Terrelis and I aren't online. Also, I added a new rule, Rule 8.


Don't worry, new IC is almost done.


I was going to turn Benians shenanigans on his head and send in my troops to blow up the little punk but cool. Suggestion, can you make the start date a little further, specifically the country a little more developed? Say 5 years.

Dude, we're not making a new RP, we're just making a second IC and retconning everything Benian did.

Also yeah, Marsisian, I agree with you. Someone should probably propose that in the Senate.
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Terrelis
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Terrelis » Tue May 19, 2015 5:16 pm

Marsisian wrote:I really want to outlaw every non-military or non-police militia now. Including those which belong to political parties.

Technically all paramilitaries are illegal and there members considered to be committing treason.

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Marsisian
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Postby Marsisian » Tue May 19, 2015 5:16 pm

Terrelis wrote:
Marsisian wrote:I really want to outlaw every non-military or non-police militia now. Including those which belong to political parties.

Technically all paramilitaries are illegal and there members considered to be committing treason.

There is the Citizens Guard.

I might just make an Auxiliary Militia branch incorporating them into the greater military.
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Kazarogkai
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Moralistic Democracy

Postby Kazarogkai » Tue May 19, 2015 5:17 pm

Marsisian wrote:I really want to outlaw every non-military or non-police militia now. Including those which belong to political parties.


They already are illegal, its just that it is really difficult to enforce. Kinda like banning the Mafia.
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Marsisian
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Postby Marsisian » Tue May 19, 2015 5:18 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:
Marsisian wrote:I really want to outlaw every non-military or non-police militia now. Including those which belong to political parties.


They already are illegal, its just that it is really difficult to enforce. Kinda like banning the Mafia.

I'm not going to be enforcing the maneuver wholeheartedly, only on ones that are very prominent, such as yours.
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Republic of the Cristo
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Tue May 19, 2015 5:21 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Kazarogkai wrote:
They already are illegal, its just that it is really difficult to enforce. Kinda like banning the Mafia.

I'm not going to be enforcing the maneuver wholeheartedly, only on ones that are very prominent, such as yours.


Do you want to know what Ragnorrok was? Since you were persistent about it earlier?
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Terrelis
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Terrelis » Tue May 19, 2015 5:21 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Kazarogkai wrote:
They already are illegal, its just that it is really difficult to enforce. Kinda like banning the Mafia.

I'm not going to be enforcing the maneuver wholeheartedly, only on ones that are very prominent, such as yours.

I will

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Marsisian
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Postby Marsisian » Tue May 19, 2015 5:21 pm

Terrelis wrote:
Marsisian wrote:I'm not going to be enforcing the maneuver wholeheartedly, only on ones that are very prominent, such as yours.

I will

Why? Wouldn't it be more prudent and effective to incorporate them into a military auxiliary force?
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Terrelis
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Postby Terrelis » Tue May 19, 2015 5:24 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Terrelis wrote:I will

Why? Wouldn't it be more prudent and effective to incorporate them into a military auxiliary force?

No they should either join the military, not start an auxiliary branch, or be punished for their crimes.

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Marsisian
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Postby Marsisian » Tue May 19, 2015 5:25 pm

Terrelis wrote:
Marsisian wrote:Why? Wouldn't it be more prudent and effective to incorporate them into a military auxiliary force?

No they should either join the military, not start an auxiliary branch, or be punished for their crimes.

That's for the President to decide.
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Icrum
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Icrum » Tue May 19, 2015 5:26 pm

Marsisian wrote:I really want to outlaw every non-military or non-police militia now. Including those which belong to political parties.

Define "Non-military or Non-police militia" please.
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Neo-Chicago
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Postby Neo-Chicago » Tue May 19, 2015 5:26 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Terrelis wrote:No they should either join the military, not start an auxiliary branch, or be punished for their crimes.

That's for the President to decide.

Not really, it's for the Senate to decide. I don't really have power on this one.
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Marsisian
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Postby Marsisian » Tue May 19, 2015 5:27 pm

Icrum wrote:
Marsisian wrote:I really want to outlaw every non-military or non-police militia now. Including those which belong to political parties.

Define "Non-military or Non-police militia" please.

If it's not part of the military or not part of the police, it's illegal.

Though I am campaigning for an auxiliary branch of the military to be created to accommodate these militias.
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Marsisian
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Postby Marsisian » Tue May 19, 2015 5:27 pm

Neo-Chicago wrote:
Marsisian wrote:That's for the President to decide.

Not really, it's for the Senate to decide. I don't really have power on this one.

The Senate shouldn't decide what to do with these militias.
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Neo-Chicago
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Postby Neo-Chicago » Tue May 19, 2015 5:28 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Neo-Chicago wrote:Not really, it's for the Senate to decide. I don't really have power on this one.

The Senate shouldn't decide what to do with these militias.

...Why not? That's what it does in the U.S.
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Icrum
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Icrum » Tue May 19, 2015 5:29 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Icrum wrote:Define "Non-military or Non-police militia" please.

If it's not part of the military or not part of the police, it's illegal.

Though I am campaigning for an auxiliary branch of the military to be created to accommodate these militias.

So, no citizen's gathering arms in case of bad stuff?

Or do you mean private military contractors used by certain groups of people, usually really rich corporations?
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Main wrote:A petition to redesign the flag incites violent riots that eventually destroy the entire nation.

-Ebola- wrote:I don't want to kill you all. I want primates, humans included, to stay around so my descendants will have the same variety of hosts to choose from as I do.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Not being able to buy an AR most certainly is a travesty.

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Marsisian
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Postby Marsisian » Tue May 19, 2015 5:29 pm

Neo-Chicago wrote:
Marsisian wrote:The Senate shouldn't decide what to do with these militias.

...Why not? That's what it does in the U.S.

Really? I thought militias were allowed.
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Marsisian
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Postby Marsisian » Tue May 19, 2015 5:30 pm

Icrum wrote:
Marsisian wrote:If it's not part of the military or not part of the police, it's illegal.

Though I am campaigning for an auxiliary branch of the military to be created to accommodate these militias.

So, no citizen's gathering arms in case of bad stuff?

Or do you mean private military contractors used by certain groups of people, usually really rich corporations?

No militias. As in people who want to make their own army. They join the military instead.
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Icrum
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Postby Icrum » Tue May 19, 2015 5:33 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Icrum wrote:So, no citizen's gathering arms in case of bad stuff?

Or do you mean private military contractors used by certain groups of people, usually really rich corporations?

No militias. As in people who want to make their own army. They join the military instead.

So no Mercs and/or PMCs.
Some kind of dessert involving ice cream, hard liquor, and a blow torch
Main wrote:A petition to redesign the flag incites violent riots that eventually destroy the entire nation.

-Ebola- wrote:I don't want to kill you all. I want primates, humans included, to stay around so my descendants will have the same variety of hosts to choose from as I do.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Not being able to buy an AR most certainly is a travesty.

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Republic of the Cristo
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Tue May 19, 2015 5:33 pm

Operation Ragnorrok: Install some radical, preferably militaristic government. Place Michael as chief military advisor. Convince said national leader to construct nuclear weapons. Convincing will either be done because of active or possible conflict orchestrated by Black Phoenix. Once sufficient nuclear weapons were built, Michael obtains nuclear launch codes and strikes against either America or Pakistan, engaging nuclear war. Thus destroying the old order, and allowing the remaining Black Phoenix members to bring about the new utopia with the remaining survivors.
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Republic of the Cristo
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Tue May 19, 2015 5:34 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Neo-Chicago wrote:...Why not? That's what it does in the U.S.

Really? I thought militias were allowed.


They are, we actually have quite a few.
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Marsisian
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Postby Marsisian » Tue May 19, 2015 5:34 pm

Icrum wrote:
Marsisian wrote:No militias. As in people who want to make their own army. They join the military instead.

So no Mercs and/or PMCs.

We depend on mercs and PMCs.
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