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Postby Mirakai » Sun May 17, 2015 12:39 am

Nekronia wrote:Gotta love Lith RPs' lewd scenes.

Charmera wrote:Laura found herself slipping slightly in mind, but steeled herself. "It is a good viewpoint to see the world as a dream. When you have something like a nightmare, you will wake up and tell yourself that it was only a dream. It is said that the world we live in is not a bit different from this.” She muttered, while it might sound like insane babble it helped her focus and think. She could be impartial in a dream, make decisions without emotion or bias in a surreal land of no consequences.

You managed to give a good summary of the subconscious reason for Jackie's distancing from reality by considering it fiction better than I could when you weren't even actually talking about him. :p

The more conscious and detailed reason is real scientific evidence that isn't really paid attention to as the "reality is a simulation" hypothesis is unfalsifiable and therefor scientifically invalid, but Jackie trusts the evidence suggesting simulation due to his strange parents and strange upbringing causing him to not personally connect with the foreign norms and feeling like he's a glitch in the system so he feels the right answer is that this difference in perceived realities is due to reality actually being different. Or rather, not existing in the first place. Later, with magical beings flying around and priests performing miracles and all kind of crazy things, he took a step further and concluded that he isn't just pieces of data, he's a fictional character in an anime or videogame. He descended from hypothetical science to mild blatant delusions due to subconscious distancing from his increasingly bizarre and stressful reality, but he actually does have reasonable justifications along the line. Not enough to convince someone to think like him, but enough for it not to sound as crazy as it does without context.

...If I'm too chatty or throwing out tangential information or otherwise acting weirder than normal, it's because the psychiatrist upped my adderall dosage a few days ago and it's been working. I've been maintaining like five separate text conversations simultaneously for the past ten hours. I'm not high like the first day, but I'm still feeling different from normal days because it's actually working. *vibrates in chair*

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RP's closed, brotha. Unless you posted in here before it closed or were invited, you can't join. Since you're a day old, I don't think you posted when it closed a week ago or whenever that happened.

Lith gave me his permission in the council thread.
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Postby Nekronia » Sun May 17, 2015 12:47 am

Mirakai wrote:
Nekronia wrote:RP's closed, brotha. Unless you posted in here before it closed or were invited, you can't join. Since you're a day old, I don't think you posted when it closed a week ago or whenever that happened.

Lith gave me his permission in the council thread.
Aaaah, okay. It's all good then. Welcome to the club, recruit. We're just getting ready to shoot you guys. :p
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Postby Charmera » Sun May 17, 2015 12:50 am

Nekronia wrote:Gotta love Lith RPs' lewd scenes.

Charmera wrote:Laura found herself slipping slightly in mind, but steeled herself. "It is a good viewpoint to see the world as a dream. When you have something like a nightmare, you will wake up and tell yourself that it was only a dream. It is said that the world we live in is not a bit different from this.” She muttered, while it might sound like insane babble it helped her focus and think. She could be impartial in a dream, make decisions without emotion or bias in a surreal land of no consequences.

You managed to give a good summary of the subconscious reason for Jackie's distancing from reality by considering it fiction better than I could when you weren't even actually talking about him. :p

The more conscious and detailed reason is real scientific evidence that isn't really paid attention to as the "reality is a simulation" hypothesis is unfalsifiable and therefor scientifically invalid, but Jackie trusts the evidence suggesting simulation due to his strange parents and strange upbringing causing him to not personally connect with the foreign norms and feeling like he's a glitch in the system so he feels the right answer is that this difference in perceived realities is due to reality actually being different. Or rather, not existing in the first place. Later, with magical beings flying around and priests performing miracles and all kind of crazy things, he took a step further and concluded that he isn't just pieces of data, he's a fictional character in an anime or videogame. He descended from hypothetical science to mild blatant delusions due to subconscious distancing from his increasingly bizarre and stressful reality, but he actually does have reasonable justifications along the line. Not enough to convince someone to think like him, but enough for it not to sound as crazy as it does without context.

Huh... it's funny because Laura was quoting the Hagakure and applying it to her own life. She's not saying life is necessarily a dream, but is saying how with each dream being self contained and episodic, if she considers combat a dream she can make impartial decisions in missions. It describes how she views combat and the missions she's told to do. Only now has it become fully relevant.

It's interesting how they share a sort of similar philosophy... Laura's isn't perfect, as she has to deal with the consequences of her "Impartial decisions" after the dream. There are a lot of interesting implications to this...

I keep forgetting I should have Laura just talk with Jackie someday. Their contrasts yet similarities are interesting...

...If I'm too chatty or throwing out tangential information or otherwise acting weirder than normal, it's because the psychiatrist upped my adderall dosage a few days ago and it's been working. I've been maintaining like five separate text conversations simultaneously for the past ten hours. I'm not high like the first day, but I'm still feeling different from normal days because it's actually working. *vibrates in chair*

It's okay. It helped me find a line of development for Laura.
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Postby Nekronia » Sun May 17, 2015 1:34 am

Charmera wrote:
Nekronia wrote:-snip-

Huh... it's funny because Laura was quoting the Hagakure and applying it to her own life. She's not saying life is necessarily a dream, but is saying how with each dream being self contained and episodic, if she considers combat a dream she can make impartial decisions in missions. It describes how she views combat and the missions she's told to do. Only now has it become fully relevant.

It's interesting how they share a sort of similar philosophy... Laura's isn't perfect, as she has to deal with the consequences of her "Impartial decisions" after the dream. There are a lot of interesting implications to this...

I keep forgetting I should have Laura just talk with Jackie someday. Their contrasts yet similarities are interesting...

Yup. Jackie actually does deal with the consequences, however just not as intensely as it's slightly more distant and more importantly he's resolute in his morals so he's gonna zealot his way to Heaven and back. But like the final test and his distinctive stress rash showed, he's not invincible, he's usually either intentionally not paying attention to something or just stubborn. He's rather sure of his morals/philosophy and no one's tried (other than Walter) to really change that so he doesn't feel AS bad about what he's doing afterwards since he thinks he's in the right. He's still doing something instinctively wrong and he gets that feeling, but as his actions have yet to come into conflict with his philosophy-driven morals (and he's risking his life for them), he hasn't really had the chance to have an example of a normal moral conflict. Ontop of this, Jackie feels as though whether reality (and by extension himself) are real or not is mostly irrelevant aside from how problems should be approached (e.g. combat). The distancing from reality is a subconscious mender of internal conflict and stress so his intense reaction to killing is lessened. If he were normal and without his distinctive traits, he'd probably have fainted and been ill for days after having to kill someone in person. Instead he just feels very uncomfortable afterwards and gets a bad stress rash. He'd be almost entirely useless in battle if he weren't distanced from short-term effects and justified against long-term guilt. Like he ranted to Walter in TKaG1, he's not paying attention to it now so he can't get haunted later, and likely won't get guilty later as he doesn't have a reason to as his morals haven't been infringed upon.

Yeah, it's really interesting to see how the different people approach the same problem from different angles. A philosophical discussion is the main reason I wanted a TKaG/Lith Vacay crossover since Lucas and Jackie would have plenty to talk about, and I'm still glad to host a Jackilosophy discussion in his original RP as well.


Charmera wrote:It's okay. It helped me find a line of development for Laura.
We can talk over TG too if you want...
I'll do that too.
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Postby Nekronia » Sun May 17, 2015 1:44 am

Mirakai wrote:-sNIP-
Two things to note:

1) Sound control is already taken by one of the co-OPs, so you might wanna find another power

2) I love that character image :D
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Postby Charmera » Sun May 17, 2015 1:53 am

Nekronia wrote:
Charmera wrote:Huh... it's funny because Laura was quoting the Hagakure and applying it to her own life. She's not saying life is necessarily a dream, but is saying how with each dream being self contained and episodic, if she considers combat a dream she can make impartial decisions in missions. It describes how she views combat and the missions she's told to do. Only now has it become fully relevant.

It's interesting how they share a sort of similar philosophy... Laura's isn't perfect, as she has to deal with the consequences of her "Impartial decisions" after the dream. There are a lot of interesting implications to this...

I keep forgetting I should have Laura just talk with Jackie someday. Their contrasts yet similarities are interesting...

Yup. Jackie actually does deal with the consequences, however just not as intensely as it's slightly more distant and more importantly he's resolute in his morals so he's gonna zealot his way to Heaven and back. But like the final test and his distinctive stress rash showed, he's not invincible, he's usually either intentionally not paying attention to something or just stubborn. He's rather sure of his morals/philosophy and no one's tried (other than Walter) to really change that so he doesn't feel AS bad about what he's doing afterwards since he thinks he's in the right. He's still doing something instinctively wrong and he gets that feeling, but as his actions have yet to come into conflict with his philosophy-driven morals (and he's risking his life for them), he hasn't really had the chance to have an example of a normal moral conflict. Ontop of this, Jackie feels as though whether reality (and by extension himself) are real or not is mostly irrelevant aside from how problems should be approached (e.g. combat). The distancing from reality is a subconscious mender of internal conflict and stress so his intense reaction to killing is lessened. If he were normal and without his distinctive traits, he'd probably have fainted and been ill for days after having to kill someone in person. Instead he just feels very uncomfortable afterwards and gets a bad stress rash. He'd be almost entirely useless in battle if he weren't distanced from short-term effects and justified against long-term guilt. Like he ranted to Walter in TKaG1, he's not paying attention to it now so he can't get haunted later, and likely won't get guilty later as he doesn't have a reason to as his morals haven't been infringed upon.

Yeah, it's really interesting to see how the different people approach the same problem from different angles. A philosophical discussion is the main reason I wanted a TKaG/Lith Vacay crossover since Lucas and Jackie would have plenty to talk about, and I'm still glad to host a Jackilosophy discussion in his original RP as well.

Interesting...

I wonder how he would react if he was otherwise face with full on reality after a while of doing this, would it catch up with him? Would it be worse than if he had just be normal in reaction to it...?

It's also interesting to consider, what would snap him out of this and into reality, even for a moment?

Also, that philosphy discussion will be fun to read...

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Mirakai wrote:-sNIP-
Two things to note:

1) Sound control is already taken by one of the co-OPs, so you might wanna find another power

2) I love that character image :D

I am jellous... I did not find the image first....
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Postby Mirakai » Sun May 17, 2015 1:56 am

Nekronia wrote:
Mirakai wrote:-sNIP-
Two things to note:

1) Sound control is already taken by one of the co-OPs, so you might wanna find another power

2) I love that character image :D

Hmm...

Is Vector Manipulation taken?
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Postby Charmera » Sun May 17, 2015 1:57 am

Mirakai wrote:
Nekronia wrote:Two things to note:

1) Sound control is already taken by one of the co-OPs, so you might wanna find another power

2) I love that character image :D

Hmm...

Is Vector Manipulation taken?

No, but damnit stop taking my favourite things :P
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Postby Mirakai » Sun May 17, 2015 1:59 am

Charmera wrote:
Nekronia wrote:Two things to note:

1) Sound control is already taken by one of the co-OPs, so you might wanna find another power

2) I love that character image :D

I am jellous... I did not find the image first....

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Postby Nekronia » Sun May 17, 2015 2:28 am

Charmera wrote:
Nekronia wrote:-snip-

Interesting...

I wonder how he would react if he was otherwise face with full on reality after a while of doing this, would it catch up with him? Would it be worse than if he had just be normal in reaction to it...?

It's also interesting to consider, what would snap him out of this and into reality, even for a moment?

Also, that philosphy discussion will be fun to read...
If he does this for a long time, he'll already be used to it so losing his subconscious distancing will be losing a redundancy.

However, reality not being real isn't really important to him, it's merely a subconscious emotional safeguard and an explanation for why life and society are so weird from his foreign perspective. It's closer to a conspiracy theorist thinking that lizardmen are what's ruining America and not politics and stupidity or something, but not actually being affected by the policies much, and it's just preventing a concerning reality. If he lost his partial delusion, then he'd be a stressed wreck and definitely throw up, but eventually get over it in an hour once the instinctive emotional stress wears off.
If you meant his philosophy/morals not preventing him from being more okay with his misdeeds, then that would be changing who Jackie fundamentally is and would be more than just "being normal". It'd be changing why he's doing things and how he views the world philosophically and so on. It'd be making him an entirely different person.

So, yeah, the philosophy will be hella fun :D
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Mirakai wrote:[spoiler=WIP app]Character Application
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Hi Kalbana! Long time, no see, but I'm glad you could join in. Definitely have missed RPing with ya. ;)

The app is looking good so far, can't wait to see what you come out with. :)
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Postby Imperial--japan » Sun May 17, 2015 8:41 am

Well I suppose I ought to get a post up.

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Postby Isle of Lithonia » Sun May 17, 2015 8:56 am

Imperial--japan wrote:Well I suppose I ought to get a post up.

Eck.

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Postby Zarkenis Ultima » Sun May 17, 2015 8:59 am

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Charmera wrote:
I am jellous... I did not find the image first....

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I love that character.

I actually used another image of hers once for an RP.
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Postby Imperial--japan » Sun May 17, 2015 9:02 am

Isle of Lithonia wrote:
Imperial--japan wrote:Well I suppose I ought to get a post up.

Eck.

Yay! IJ is back!

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This is the second time you've used this Gif on me. You clearly have it favorited or saved you freak. :p
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Postby Atlannia » Sun May 17, 2015 9:08 am

The Government officially recommends that people keep at least a three supply of preserved kawaii in case of of disaster, clearly Lith is just saftey minded
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Postby Isle of Lithonia » Sun May 17, 2015 9:17 am

Imperial--japan wrote:This is the second time you've used this Gif on me. You clearly have it favorited or saved you freak. :p

It's definitely favorited. But goddammit, its so KAWAIIIIIIIIIIII! :P

Atlannia wrote:The Government officially recommends that people keep at least a three supply of preserved kawaii in case of of disaster, clearly Lith is just saftey minded

Exactly.
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Postby Mirakai » Sun May 17, 2015 9:24 am

Isle of Lithonia wrote:
Imperial--japan wrote:This is the second time you've used this Gif on me. You clearly have it favorited or saved you freak. :p

It's definitely favorited. But goddammit, its so KAWAIIIIIIIIIIII! :P

Atlannia wrote:The Government officially recommends that people keep at least a three supply of preserved kawaii in case of of disaster, clearly Lith is just saftey minded

Exactly.

The entirety of K-ON! is kawaii
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Postby Isle of Lithonia » Sun May 17, 2015 9:25 am

Mirakai wrote:The entirety of K-ON! is kawaii

This is true. I nearly died of Kawaiiness when I watched it.
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Postby Mnar Secundus » Sun May 17, 2015 9:32 am

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Mirakai wrote:The entirety of K-ON! is kawaii

This is true. I nearly died of Kawaiiness when I watched it.

Eh, I couldn't go through with it. Too much Kawaii for not enough actual content.

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Postby Mirakai » Sun May 17, 2015 9:41 am

I'm confused on how black demons can't reach the "lesser demon" tier on the powergrid...
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Postby Mirakai » Sun May 17, 2015 9:51 am

Anyways, now I just need a bio. Those are always the hardest
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Postby Zarkenis Ultima » Sun May 17, 2015 9:53 am

Mirakai wrote:Anyways, now I just need a bio. Those are always the hardest


Agreed. But, really, you don't need to make it very elaborate.

I myself only put down a paragraph for each character, people's expectations be damned. :P
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