{Open} Athena V2: Gods Rising Expansion Pack

[Gvozdevsk]

Well I think the term LMG is any mg that can act as a mobile firing position, that is managed, loaded, and crewed by a total of one person who lugs it around all day while laying down suppressive fire, or mows down enemies. Where a HMG is a fixed gun of death

An M240 is not a light machine gun by your definition because it's generally operated by at least two people, a gunner and at least one ammo bearer, and can also be used in a fixed position when mounted on a tripod. Basically, this is how machine guns are classified:

Light machine gun: Able to be fired on the move and used as an infantry weapon and is light enough that it can be fired from the shoulder like an assault rifle and the gunner can carry their own ammo. Generally fires an intermediate cartridge. Can be belt or magazine fed.
Heavy machine gun: Always fired from a tripod or vehicle mount, fires large cartridges, generally 12.7mm or 14.5mm. Always belt fed.
General purpose machine gun: Capable of being used effectively in both roles, although you're not going to be firing this from the shoulder like a light machine gun. Fires a full power rifle cartridge, can be operated by one person but usually used in a machine gun team because it's heavy enough that you're not going to want to be carrying the gun and ammo. Always belt fed.

[Monfrox]

Well I think the term LMG is any mg that can act as a mobile firing position, that is managed, loaded, and crewed by a total of one person who lugs it around all day while laying down suppressive fire, or mows down enemies. Where a HMG is a fixed gun of death

An M240 is not a light machine gun by your definition because it's generally operated by at least two people, a gunner and at least one ammo bearer, and can also be used in a fixed position when mounted on a tripod. Basically, this is how machine guns are classified:

Light machine gun: Able to be fired on the move and used as an infantry weapon and is light enough that it can be fired from the shoulder like an assault rifle and the gunner can carry their own ammo. Generally fires an intermediate cartridge. Can be belt or magazine fed.
Heavy machine gun: Always fired from a tripod or vehicle mount, fires large cartridges, generally 12.7mm or 14.5mm. Always belt fed.
General purpose machine gun: Capable of being used effectively in both roles, although you're not going to be firing this from the shoulder like a light machine gun. Fires a full power rifle cartridge, can be operated by one person but usually used in a machine gun team because it's heavy enough that you're not going to want to be carrying the gun and ammo. Always belt fed.

You were saying?

[Gvozdevsk]

An M240 is not a light machine gun by your definition because it's generally operated by at least two people, a gunner and at least one ammo bearer, and can also be used in a fixed position when mounted on a tripod. Basically, this is how machine guns are classified:

Light machine gun: Able to be fired on the move and used as an infantry weapon and is light enough that it can be fired from the shoulder like an assault rifle and the gunner can carry their own ammo. Generally fires an intermediate cartridge. Can be belt or magazine fed.
Heavy machine gun: Always fired from a tripod or vehicle mount, fires large cartridges, generally 12.7mm or 14.5mm. Always belt fed.
General purpose machine gun: Capable of being used effectively in both roles, although you're not going to be firing this from the shoulder like a light machine gun. Fires a full power rifle cartridge, can be operated by one person but usually used in a machine gun team because it's heavy enough that you're not going to want to be carrying the gun and ammo. Always belt fed.

You were saying?

Those are the exception. And also just soldiers having fun on the range. 99% of the time you're going to see these types of guns fired from the bipod or the hip.

[Socarux]

On another note the SAW is also the FN-MAG half of these guns are belgian
Plus the M240B is a medium MG which is a general purpose designation. :/
A few examples of LMG's is the BREN, BAR, L86A2 LSW, and L108A1, L110A2, L110A3, Minimi 7.62. (Note, only two of these guns aren't Belgian XD )

[Pan Asian Amercian Coalition]

On another note the SAW is also the FN-MAG half of these guns are belgian
Plus the M240B is a medium MG which is a general purpose designation. :/
A few examples of LMG's is the BREN, BAR, L86A2 LSW, and L108A1, L110A2, L110A3, Minimi 7.62. (Note, only two of these guns aren't Belgian XD )

Belgium: Chocolate, waffles, beer, LMGs. Sounds like a wonderful vacation to me.

[Anowa]

Belgium: Chocolate, waffles, beer, Guns. Sounds like a wonderful vacation to me.

FTFY, although Belgians aren't really known for their beer.

[Tiltjuice]

Belgium: Chocolate, waffles, beer, Guns. Sounds like a wonderful vacation to me.

FTFY, although Belgians aren't really known for their beer.

Stella Artois? >_>

[Anowa]

FTFY, although Belgians aren't really known for their beer.

Stella Artois? >_>

... didn't know that was Belgian... huh...

[United Kingdom of Poland]

On another note the SAW is also the FN-MAG half of these guns are belgian
Plus the M240B is a medium MG which is a general purpose designation. :/
A few examples of LMG's is the BREN, BAR, L86A2 LSW, and L108A1, L110A2, L110A3, Minimi 7.62. (Note, only two of these guns aren't Belgian XD )

ironically they were the only two that were any good.

[Anowa]

On another note the SAW is also the FN-MAG half of these guns are belgian
Plus the M240B is a medium MG which is a general purpose designation. :/
A few examples of LMG's is the BREN, BAR, L86A2 LSW, and L108A1, L110A2, L110A3, Minimi 7.62. (Note, only two of these guns aren't Belgian XD )

ironically they were the only two that were any good.

I didn't think you held the British weapon industry that high in regard.

[Socarux]

Scaldis Prestige de Nuits (Barrel aged delectable Belgian brew/a mug or glass of heaven) Goes great with the waffles!(With powdered sugar on top)

Belgium makes a lot of guns in general XD

Lol, if Patrick lives long enough to get leave he is going to take a little of that time to take any friends he makes for waffles covered in chocolate and beer in some historical mideval town(Probably Bruges)

[Socarux]

On another note the SAW is also the FN-MAG half of these guns are belgian
Plus the M240B is a medium MG which is a general purpose designation. :/
A few examples of LMG's is the BREN, BAR, L86A2 LSW, and L108A1, L110A2, L110A3, Minimi 7.62. (Note, only two of these guns aren't Belgian XD )

ironically they were the only two that were any good.

If the Bren were still good it wouldn't be obsolete, as for the L86A2 LSW it doesn't quite meet the exact spec's here for a full fledged MG

[Tiltjuice]

That was a good movie.

I'm going to make it Tine's favorite.

[Socarux]

Stop making Tine into every mans dream! lol jk. THat was a great movie, though it(the town) has appeared in many movies.

[United Kingdom of Poland]

ironically they were the only two that were any good.

I didn't think you held the British weapon industry that high in regard.

no the two Belgian guns are the only two on the list that are any good.

ironically they were the only two that were any good.

If the Bren were still good it wouldn't be obsolete, as for the L86A2 LSW it doesn't quite meet the exact spec's here for a full fledged MG

yah magazine fed weapons don't tend to make good support weapons.

[Anowa]

I didn't think you held the British weapon industry that high in regard.

no the two Belgian guns are the only two on the list that are any good.

The L86 and the Bren are the only non-Belgian made weapons on that list.

[Gvozdevsk]

no the two Belgian guns are the only two on the list that are any good.

The L86 and the Bren are the only non-Belgian made weapons on that list.

The BAR is on that list though and that's an American gun. FN was only one place where it was manufactured and most BARs were manufactured in America. By that logic the BAR is also Polish and Swedish because it was manufactured in Poland and Sweden as well. AKs are also American and AR-15s are Chinese and Russian by that logic as well.

[Anowa]

The L86 and the Bren are the only non-Belgian made weapons on that list.

The BAR is on that list though and that's an American gun. FN was only one place where it was manufactured and most BARs were manufactured in America. By that logic the BAR is also Polish and Swedish because it was manufactured in Poland and Sweden as well. AKs are also American and AR-15s are Chinese and Russian by that logic as well.

designed then.

[Monfrox]

The BAR is on that list though and that's an American gun. FN was only one place where it was manufactured and most BARs were manufactured in America. By that logic the BAR is also Polish and Swedish because it was manufactured in Poland and Sweden as well. AKs are also American and AR-15s are Chinese and Russian by that logic as well.

designed then.

Browning BAR - Designed in Belgium

M1918 BAR - Designed in America

[Anowa]

designed then.

Browning BAR - Designed in Belgium

M1918 BAR - Designed in America

Mr. Browning was certainly original in his naming patterns. /s

[Monfrox]

Browning BAR - Designed in Belgium

M1918 BAR - Designed in America

Mr. Browning was certainly original in his naming patterns. /s

>implying originality of names has anything to do with designing guns

[Anowa]

Mr. Browning was certainly original in his naming patterns. /s

>implying originality of names has anything to do with designing guns

Never said that, or meant/implied it.

[United Kingdom of Poland]

no the two Belgian guns are the only two on the list that are any good.

The L86 and the Bren are the only non-Belgian made weapons on that list.

ah, sorry read the first message as only two are made by Belgium.
the brits can design good weapons, they just can't design good assault rifles and for the most part smg's.

[Socarux]

Even the popular general purpose mg the lewis gun, also used in the squad mobile automatic weapon role, was made by the belgians. Every allied nation used it except possibly Russia (WW1)

[Tiltjuice]

You should post. Since you're so active OOC and all.