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Postby Nivok Baves » Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:59 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:
Of The Rnclave wrote:
Ukraine doesn't have te capability

Sovier Union collapsed, some WMDs were left behind since order itself collapsed and nobody had time to think about the nukes and yes we do have capability since UUNF can take control of Sevastpol with a little help of the Irish.

It didn't collapse, it reformed without the Baltic States and the Ukraine. But all nuclear weapons were returned to the USSR in 1996

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Postby Liberusy » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:02 pm

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Is this good?
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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:04 pm

Nivok Baves wrote:
Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:Sovier Union collapsed, some WMDs were left behind since order itself collapsed and nobody had time to think about the nukes and yes we do have capability since UUNF can take control of Sevastpol with a little help of the Irish.

It didn't collapse, it reformed without the Baltic States and the Ukraine. But all nuclear weapons were returned to the USSR in 1996

This is a different timeline bro, Soviet Union existed till 2016. The guy who took USSR removed it after being busy or something.

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Postby Nivok Baves » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:06 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:
Nivok Baves wrote:It didn't collapse, it reformed without the Baltic States and the Ukraine. But all nuclear weapons were returned to the USSR in 1996

This is a different timeline bro, Soviet Union existed till 2016. The guy who took USSR removed it after being busy or something.

It still stands. And even so the USSR signed the Non-Nuclear Proliferation Treaty as did Ukraine. Plus the Ukrainians willingly gave them up

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Postby Neo-Chicago » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:06 pm

Just curious, is this an alternate timeline, or just an alternate future? I'm writing up the history of the Saharan Federation.
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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:14 pm

Nivok Baves wrote:
Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:This is a different timeline bro, Soviet Union existed till 2016. The guy who took USSR removed it after being busy or something.

It still stands. And even so the USSR signed the Non-Nuclear Proliferation Treaty as did Ukraine. Plus the Ukrainians willingly gave them up

Ukranie was part of Soviet Union, therefore armament and nukes can be stationed. USSR failed, so they had no time to pull the weapons and Ukraine has a provisional government and is near a possible civil war, plus no one is Soviet Union so no deals yet.

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Postby Nivok Baves » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:15 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:
Nivok Baves wrote:It still stands. And even so the USSR signed the Non-Nuclear Proliferation Treaty as did Ukraine. Plus the Ukrainians willingly gave them up

Ukranie was part of Soviet Union, therefore armament and nukes can be stationed. USSR failed, so they had no time to pull the weapons and Ukraine has a provisional government and is near a possible civil war, plus no one is Soviet Union so no deals yet.

The deal happened in 1996...

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Postby Of The Rnclave » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:26 pm

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I'd be weakened by your secession, nice try but no

You will be fighting a war on just another front though, we will give you a discount on oil...We are planning on seizing the oil reserves, if you grant us our Independence [including allowing all Texas citizens in the military to come home and all military bases [and equipment in Texas to become Texas property] we will in turn grant you 40% off of our oil prices and not one shot will have to fired. Shall we have to use force, then we will not stop until every last inch of Texas soil belongs to us and even then depending on how we are feeling, we may continue...that being said are top priority will be securing oil fields [and I know Alaska is independent] so if you choose not to grant us our Independence you may want to look for an alternative means of oil.


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Postby Liberusy » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:29 pm

Of The Rnclave wrote:
Liberusy wrote:You will be fighting a war on just another front though, we will give you a discount on oil...We are planning on seizing the oil reserves, if you grant us our Independence [including allowing all Texas citizens in the military to come home and all military bases [and equipment in Texas to become Texas property] we will in turn grant you 40% off of our oil prices and not one shot will have to fired. Shall we have to use force, then we will not stop until every last inch of Texas soil belongs to us and even then depending on how we are feeling, we may continue...that being said are top priority will be securing oil fields [and I know Alaska is independent] so if you choose not to grant us our Independence you may want to look for an alternative means of oil.


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Postby Gyrenaica » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:31 pm

Rnclave, maybe we enter talks about reforming? You know under the name USA or U.S.S.A. but with. You know. Socialism. 8)

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Postby Gyrenaica » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:31 pm

By reforming I mean reforming the United States with its 48 contiguous states. We can let Alaska be

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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:32 pm

Nivok Baves wrote:
Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:Ukranie was part of Soviet Union, therefore armament and nukes can be stationed. USSR failed, so they had no time to pull the weapons and Ukraine has a provisional government and is near a possible civil war, plus no one is Soviet Union so no deals yet.

The deal happened in 1996...

The deal happened between a free Ukrainian state and a free Russian one. This timeline is different.

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Postby Nivok Baves » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:35 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:
Nivok Baves wrote:The deal happened in 1996...

The deal happened between a free Ukrainian state and a free Russian one. This timeline is different.

Seeing as how when the Soviet Union collapsed, it would still be the same. Again the Ukrainians willingly gave up their WMDs to Russia or the USSR whichever one was around in the timeline

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Postby Liberusy » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:42 pm

Gyrenaica wrote:By reforming I mean reforming the United States with its 48 contiguous states. We can let Alaska be

and Texas ;)
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Postby Germanahii » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:57 pm

Did anyone even see my post asking for alliances. Or maybe no on wants to join ;~;.

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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:59 pm

Nivok Baves wrote:
Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:The deal happened between a free Ukrainian state and a free Russian one. This timeline is different.

Seeing as how when the Soviet Union collapsed, it would still be the same. Again the Ukrainians willingly gave up their WMDs to Russia or the USSR whichever one was around in the timeline

The fall happened NOW, in this thread or timeline, the weapons are in the mid of the fighting and there is no clear owner of them.

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Postby Nivok Baves » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:00 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:
Nivok Baves wrote:Seeing as how when the Soviet Union collapsed, it would still be the same. Again the Ukrainians willingly gave up their WMDs to Russia or the USSR whichever one was around in the timeline

The fall happened NOW, in this thread or timeline, the weapons are in the mid of the fighting and there is no clear owner of them.


The OP clearly shows that it reformed, can you show the post where it says it collapses?

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Postby Benian Republic » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:00 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:
Nivok Baves wrote:Seeing as how when the Soviet Union collapsed, it would still be the same. Again the Ukrainians willingly gave up their WMDs to Russia or the USSR whichever one was around in the timeline

The fall happened NOW, in this thread or timeline, the weapons are in the mid of the fighting and there is no clear owner of them.

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Postby Neo-Chicago » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:09 pm

Now, it's up to you guys to decide what is actually alternate history, and what is just history rewritten by the victors.
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Postby Liberusy » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:15 pm

Germanahii wrote:Did anyone even see my post asking for alliances. Or maybe no on wants to join ;~;.

You are Columbia right? Are you socialist? Either way, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, so if you are, I would still be glad to work with you if you help me defeat the USA [or gain independence from]. I mainly need a navy to protect my international trade ships and make sure we are not embargoed, I would be happy, in exchange, to trade oil to you.
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Postby Gyrenaica » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:21 pm

Liberusy wrote:
Germanahii wrote:Did anyone even see my post asking for alliances. Or maybe no on wants to join ;~;.

You are Columbia right? Are you socialist? Either way, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, so if you are, I would still be glad to work with you if you help me defeat the USA [or gain independence from]. I mainly need a navy to protect my international trade ships and make sure we are not embargoed, I would be happy, in exchange, to trade oil to you.

Im Columbia

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Postby Liberusy » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:27 pm

Gyrenaica wrote:
Liberusy wrote:You are Columbia right? Are you socialist? Either way, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, so if you are, I would still be glad to work with you if you help me defeat the USA [or gain independence from]. I mainly need a navy to protect my international trade ships and make sure we are not embargoed, I would be happy, in exchange, to trade oil to you.

Im Columbia

So what do you think about my proposal?
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Postby Of The Rnclave » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:52 pm

Gyrenaica wrote:Rnclave, maybe we enter talks about reforming? You know under the name USA or U.S.S.A. but with. You know. Socialism. 8)


I'd be fine with that, but I'd prefer the name stay usa for reasons
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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:07 pm

Nivok Baves wrote:
Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:The fall happened NOW, in this thread or timeline, the weapons are in the mid of the fighting and there is no clear owner of them.


The OP clearly shows that it reformed, can you show the post where it says it collapses?

The creation of UUNF itself shows that Ukraine was not entirely independent, and it was almost a puppet state, UUNF bombed and killed the members of the previous puppet government, starting a rebellion, and I stated at my application that a lot of Ukrainians in the Odessa Military District were working for UUNF, when shit hit the fan, they immediately changed sides and secured most of the previous Soviet bases. Some loyal Soviet forces surrendered, some keep on fighting, but nobody has secured the weapons since.

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Postby Nivok Baves » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:09 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:
Nivok Baves wrote:
The OP clearly shows that it reformed, can you show the post where it says it collapses?

The creation of UUNF itself shows that Ukraine was not entirely independent, and it was almost a puppet state, UUNF bombed and killed the members of the previous puppet government, starting a rebellion, and I stated at my application that a lot of Ukrainians in the Odessa Military District were working for UUNF, when shit hit the fan, they immediately changed sides and secured most of the previous Soviet bases. Some loyal Soviet forces surrendered, some keep on fighting, but nobody has secured the weapons since.


When was the UUNF made?

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